Note THIS INFORMATION about Trayvon Martin, the story on the national news lately. If the information to which I'm linking in this post is accurate, Obama should retract his statement:
"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," Obama said in his first comments about the shooting...Is the photo below a more up-to-date likeness of Trayvon Martin?
Please read THIS LINK. If the information in that link is accurate, the media are suppressing information that contradicting their present agenda.
Furthermore, Jesse Jackson should be held accountable for his recent statement that Trayvon Martin was "shot in the back of the head," as I heard on CBS News this morning. Such is not the case at all! He was shot in the chest.
Jesse Jackson said more:
Jackson said he would like to see the black population turn its anger over the death of Trayvon Martin into an energy directed at voter registration, economic inequity and other issues of discrimination and racial injustice.Aha! There stands one agenda related to the shooting of Trayvon Martin!
"I would hope that movement would turn into Trayvon Martin voter-registration rallies," Jackson said in a press conference following the Sunday service.
Additional reading at THE ASTUTE BLOGGERS: "Barry's Son Wouldn't Look Like This." Worth your time.
Addendum:
ABC News confirms that Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for 10 days for possession of marijuana in mid-February.Also be sure to read the comments to this post as I'm adding information in the comments section.
Yes, now it is time for us whities to go through "self examination" as requested by our President who knows little more than us about the facts.
ReplyDeleteAny informed President would have access to facts that the rest of us shouldn't have to be digging out.
ReplyDeleteNote that I said "informed."
If Obama has been properly informed, he's promoting racial division as he is complicit. In fact, in such a scenario, Obama is both a racist and a demagogue. His appeal to pity was a logic fallacy and the act of a demagogue.
If Obama has not been properly informed, why not?
"I would hope that movement would turn into Trayvon Martin voter-registration rallies,"
ReplyDeleteBasically they are a bunch of whores.
The sad part of all of this is that a 17 year old kid is dead and his life has become nothing more than a tool to re-elect Barack Obama.
I am starting to believe he assaulted Mr Zimmerman and I believe he was shot in self defense.
At the end of the day though, a 17 year old kid is still dead and another man's life lies in ruins.
If he were completely exonerated, Mr Zimmerman has had his life destroyed. The media will not take back all it has said about him. Obama will not have him over for a photo op, oops, I mean beer. The professional race-baiters will still attack him, ignoring the findings of innocence.
Chuck,
ReplyDeleteWhile you were commenting at my site, I was commenting at yours. LOL!
If he were completely exonerated, Mr Zimmerman has had his life destroyed.
That is the one thing we know for certain right now, isn't it?
The voter-registration agenda is quite interesting.
ReplyDeleteI think that, previous to the slaying of Trayvon Martin, Obama has had little success with his active call for African Americans to register. A lot of blacks feels as if Obama has done nothing for them in nearly 4 years in office. He's been so busy reaching out to the Islamic world, and some blacks have taken notice of that.
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ReplyDeleteThat's a Battle cry for all the American "Toulouse Killers" to come out and "Avenge the systematic MASSACRE of little Brown Martins!"...
SICK!
IMO, we don't know enough. From what we do know. I doubt race had anything to do with the tragedy. My guess is stupidity on the parts of both Treyvon and Zimmerman cost this boy his life.
ReplyDeleteAs more facts come out, the narrative is evolving into the predictable direction ... Martin attacked and injured Zimmerman, the screams for help on the tape were coming from Zimmerman, the police cuffed Zimmerman and took him for questioning before releasing him on the evidence, Zimmerman now has a (black) friend coming out to say Zimmerman is no racist. I don't think the Progressive gang is going to get the race riots they desire out of this one after all.
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http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”
Good post, AOW.
ReplyDeleteThe media narrative is lame.
The statements from Jackson, Farrakhan, and the New Black Panthers are criminal.
All this being said, I think it also needs to be said, sporting gold teeth and tattoos, and donning a hoodie, are not at all uncommon, and they are not a reason for a person to be shot.
These facts do, however, demonstrate that the media is attempting to control the narrative.
Gold teeth, tattoos and hoodies are all attempts by a stupid young boy to look tough. The fact that this kid made such an effort to look tough also deserves to be part of the narrative.
Additionally, I think it needs to be noted that Trayvon donned the hoodie because he was being followed. This is spun by the girlfriend on the phone as a reaction to be afraid. Now, that could be true. He was being followed by Zimmerman. Maybe he was afraid. Maybe he decided to don the hoodie out of fear. But, if so, then his reaction to fear was to
1) look tough
2) increase suspicion of himself by masking his face
Of course, he would have had no idea that Zimmerman was playing neighborhood cop.
The whole story truly is a tragedy.
But, it is disgusting what the media is doing.
And, it is beyond contempt what the "black leaders" are doing.
What a circus. The left are experts at exploiting a tragedy.
ReplyDeleteIf Obama wants to claim his bastard son posthumously, I can see no reason why we should object, do you?
ReplyDeleteThe Glorification of Protest and Eternal Complaint are the primary defining characteristics so the left.
Why would we expect anything different from our Marxian Leader?
Expect soon to see congress renamed, and henceforth called The Duma.
Elections have already become a farce stage-managed by The Powers That Be. Your vote has no meaning, You voice will never be heard. You have been turned into a SUBJECT while you've been busily splitting hairs over precisely when human life begins in the womb, and if it should end when it becomes devoid of meaning, pleasure, satisfaction and significance.
~ FreeThinke
I don't want to comment until I know the facts. I sure as heck don't trust the media coverage or the vile being spewed by the professional black agitators.
ReplyDeleteThe rush to defend Zimmerman by right-wingers is ghastly.
ReplyDeleteTrayvon Martin had committed no crime. Zimmerman had no authority to confront him, attempt to question him and chase him down as was admitted on the 911 call.
The application of Deadly Force can only be justified by circumstances one knows prior to incident. Knowledge gained post hoc can not be used to justify the killing.
But, I don't expect any conservative to admit Zimmerman should not gone after Martin because it's somehow gotta be Martin's fault...
Race Baiters!
ReplyDeleteThis is a godsend for Jackson and those of his ilk whose careers are based on and fed exclusively by "racism and rumors of racism".
ReplyDeleteIn private, old Jesse J. must be grinning happily, because the market for his particular brand of opportunism had been a little dry, but now he can milk the death of this boy for all it's worth.
These "Racism Professionals" are some really disgusting parasites!
I see everyone trying their best to put their noses into what should be left for the authorities to determine and judge by.
ReplyDeleteAs I have said on another blog, comments should only be made about the laws, comments formally released by authorities and that is it. There are a number of serious reasons to limit comments to that.
The first is that facts are not always privty to us or the media and whatever comes out could also be fraudelant, not accurate or not relevant, especially to any legal judgement.
The second is that the rumour mills turn and churn.
The third is that if your ever involved in criminal or coronial inquries, what is actually admissable or applicable to the case is nothing like what we hear outside.
He said, she said and so on just does not have a value in the court. Even statements by Zimmerman to the public may and can be retracted, it is what is officially said that counts.
In almost every case I have read, studied or partaken in, the issues are facts, more facts, questioning those facts, elimenation of non-conclusive information and hearsay and then beginning to question and ultimately making a judgement.
We should be free and able to raise questions about the system and laws. Also, yes I agree to questioning inputs that may influence or hinder justice. I think Obama was very wrong to make any statement.
I have three questions that come to mind.
1. In Florida Law, does the instructions (to not pursue)of the 9/11 Operator have any value to Zimmerman's actions/reactions?
2. As the "neighborhood watch" representative does that, under Florida Law, have any responsibility or "position of trust"? (and thereby making him required to obey that instruction).
3. Under Florida Law, is there not automatically a coronial inquest into any violent death?
Damien Charles
Look. I'm not into the rush-to-judgment thing.
ReplyDeleteHowever, the media is presenting what appears to be a slant on this story -- a slant that is very possibly promoting race war and vigilante justice.
Suppose that a white boy had been shot by a non-white. Suppose that a prominent group announced a bounty and swore "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth"? Suppose one of those objecting to the slaying of that hypothetical white boy were to tweet the home address of the person who shot the white boy. Would the media be ignoring THOSE developments?
And where is the media coverage of THIS STORY. I'll be coping and pasting the entire story in my comment(s) below.
Dated March 7, 2012
ReplyDeleteWas Boy in K.C. Fire Attack a Victim of His School's Racist Teaching?
Was Boy in K.C. Fire Attack a Victim of His School's Racist Teaching?
By Selwyn Duke
The boy raised his hand, eager to answer the question. "What would you know about it?" exclaimed the teacher dismissively. "You're not our race."
This was not dialogue from a Hollywood movie. According to a woman named Melissa Coon, it was what a teacher at East High School in Kansas City told her 13-year-old son, Allen, when he attempted to answer a question during Black History Month. Coon identifies that teacher as Mrs. Karla Dorsey, who is black; Allen is white.
As has already been reported, Allen was a victim of a vicious racial attack last week in which two older black teens doused him with gasoline and set him alight, saying, "This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy." Not surprisingly, Coon has pulled her son out of East High and, concerned about further racial violence, intends to leave the K.C. area.
While this crime is making headlines, Coon states that it was merely the horrible culmination of continual racial harassment her son had to endure at East High. Moreover, after conducting an investigation that included extensive interviews with parents and students, I've learned that Coon's son is not alone. Other white students also report a pattern of racial harassment at the high school at the hands of their peers -- and, shockingly, their teachers.
Two of these victims were the twin 14-year-old daughters (first names withheld upon request) of Karin Wildeisen. Ever since their family relocated from Texas, they had endured racial animosity in the Kansas City school system and inappropriate behavior by staff, which included teachers laughing while boys humiliatingly manhandled the girls and a teacher slapping one of them on the backside. But there was far worse to come.
The twins started coming home and talking about the goings-on in an advanced-English class taught by a teacher Wildeisen identifies as Ms. Veda Monday. Wildeisen said that her daughters told her, "There are four white kids in the class; they are being targeted racially." They said that Monday, who is black, was feeding the class racial material, about which Wildeisen notes, "She's teaching advanced English; she has no reason to be teaching civil rights."...
(continued from above)
ReplyDeleteYet even putting the brutal fire attack aside, Melissa Coon's young boy by far got the worst of it. The tow-headed Allen looks like "the classic all-American white boy," says his mother, and "after the first week [of school] he was nothing but racially harassed." She says that "he was called every racial slur you can imagine," such as "honkey," "cracker," "whitey," and "guero" (a Spanish slang term for whites that can be used in a derogatory way). He was, she reports, pushed into lockers and was jumped in the bathroom. And even before the recent attack, he was sometimes menaced by groups that would follow him part of the way home.
Even more damning, though, is that multiple educators were complicit in the harassment. Mrs. Coon related an incident in which a teacher she identifies as Ms. Carla Kinder called Allen "Casper" and then "got all the students to get involved." Other times, the students would initiate the harassment, and the teachers would pick up the baton. "They would tease him; people would make fun of him, and they'd chime in," said Coon.
Then, as the Wildeisen girls report, as Ashley Miller reports, there were the race-baiting films. Said Mrs. Coon, "They showed a lot of racial movies. And people would make comments -- lots of comments -- especially at him [Allen], during these things."
And this brings us to the fire attack of last week. How is it that two teenagers would douse an innocent boy they don't even know with gasoline and set him alight? Karin Wildeisen has a theory. Referring to Ms. Monday's "English" class, she told me, "I think that the two boys who did this are going to be found in that teacher's class -- or somewhere thereabouts."
It sure seems likely, and what should we say about East High's "teaching" model? Well, imagine repeatedly showing films depicting blacks committing nothing but crimes against whites. Would there be any question about whether it was race-baiting? Even Amos 'n' Andy is frowned upon today.
The fact is that, to paraphrase Lincoln, "if you look for the worst in a group, you're sure to find it." If you display a group's sins to the exclusion of its triumphs ad infinitum, you can make it appear a den of demons. And ever since the advent of video technology, propaganda films have been used the world over to cultivate racial and ethnic hostility. It is Hate 101.
Silverfiddle,
ReplyDeleteIt's worse than a circus -- or has the potential to turn into something much worse than a circus.
OBAMA SHOULD NOT HAVE COMMENTED ON THIS CASE.
Once he did, the whole country took off to the races. [pun intended]
No matter what the grand jury or a trial jury finds, Zimmerman is finished.
ReplyDeleteFinished!
It won't matter one whit whether he's guilty or innocent.
Need I explain? Those clamoring for hunting him down right now will say, "Da man covered up his guilt," if Zimmerman isn't indicted (or convicted).
Even if Zimmerman were found innocent in a criminal trial, forces will line up for a civil suit -- a wrongful death suit.
You know, there really is something peculiar about this case, specifically, the fact that Martin's father didn't even report his son as missing right away. If Martin was such a good kid, why the delay?
For reference, HERE is a timeline of events. I believe that the timeline is updated as developments occur.
Oh, wow:
ReplyDeleteABC News confirms that Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for 10 days for possession of marijuana in mid-February.
That does explain why his father didn't report his son as missing.
Maybe Obama should have said, "If I had a son, he'd be smoking pot like Trayvon Martin."
ReplyDeletePastorius,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment.
In my view, Zimmerman is being railroaded by the media and certain activists.
No matter what happened, it is now a fact that Zimmerman can never receive a fair trial. The pool of possible jurors has been poisoned!
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteAs I have said on another blog, comments should only be made about the laws, comments formally released by authorities and that is it.
Normally, I would agree with you on that.
But something very nasty is happening. It's going to end badly -- perhaps worse than you can imagine.
I hope that I'm wrong about that, but I don't think that I am. Jesse Jackson is trying, quite successfully, to turn Trayvon Martin into a martyr.
I cannot stand by and watch the media try this case in the court of public opinion without posting on certain aspects that are not coming forth.
Grung_e_Gene,
ReplyDeleteYou don't know for a fact that Martin did not commit a crime. After all, look at that 10 day suspension from school (see addendum to the body of the post).
But, I don't expect any conservative to admit Zimmerman should not gone after Martin because it's somehow gotta be Martin's fault...
That. Is. A. Lie.
Silverfiddle posted "It's Murder," and you commented to that post.
For the record:
ReplyDelete...George Zimmerman, 28, a neighborhood watch volunteer with a long history of calling in everything from open garage doors to “suspicious characters,” called police to say he had spotted someone who looked drugged, was walking too slowly in the rain, and appeared to be looking at people’s houses. Zimmerman sounded alarmed because the stranger had his hand in his waistband and held something in his other hand.
The unarmed teen was carrying Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea.
Zimmerman said he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck, police said. He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life....
"What is truth?"
No one yet knows the complete truth. But you can be DAMNED SURE that the DEM/MSM is doing its level best to ensure that YOU, the casual reader and listener, are NOT provided with the full array of information yet revealed.
ReplyDeleteAnd the PRESIDENT is perfectly COMPLICIT in this media SCAM.
BZ
I HAD NO INTENTION OF POSTING ABOUT TRAYVON MARTIN
ReplyDeleteI changed my mind this morning because of Jesse Jackson's statement that Martin "was shot in the back of the head."
Jackson is lying -- and he knows he is lying, too.
Jackson's statement is deliberately designed to be inflammatory.
And once this man has said such a thing, no amount of reason or evidence will convince some black people that Jackson lied.
On the contrary, unless Jackson himself publicly retracts that statement, the lie is believed because any evidence is from "da man" and, therefore, unreliable.
The media carried Jackson's comment as if it were the gospel truth!
WHAT?
ReplyDeleteTeam Obama Trying To Capitalize On Trayvon Martin Shooting: Tweets Out Link To Buy Official Hoodie Sweatshirt…
Obama 2012
✔
@Obama2012
Let everyone know whose team you’re on for 2012 with today’s merchandise steal: the college-style hooded sweatshirt.
Hi AOW.
ReplyDeleteI've noticed on Trayvon Martin's facebook page one of his ‘friends’ has as last name ‘Shabbazz’ it couldn’t be true that this guy, who’s tweets are private is related to Malik Shabazz?
Ooops forgot the link
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002153682634
"He was suspended from school" - no, that does not make the person a criminal, dangerous or any form of excuse.
ReplyDelete"That he may, was remported to be, or witnesses say he was sellling drugs at some point". Is not confirmed facts.
"That he has tattoos and golden teeth" - is not relevant.
"That he wore a hood" - ditto.
Zimmerman's statement to the public, is also not a confirmation of facts to a court, that is what "he said" and if he says it in court, then it is admissable.
Reverand Jackson saying that he was shot in the back of the head, is outrageous, he is neither in court, does not know the facts and thus is attempting to pervert the course of justice. In the UK if there was an actual court case or inquest, he could be charged.
Yes the media love making things from it and interest groups will use this tragic event for their own agenda and that is even worse - and it is obvious on both sides. Just as much as some sides are certainly making everything out that Zimmerman was an evil, racist shoot first thug, I noticed that FOX is also attempting to justify the death, also wrong BEFORE any inquiry is done.
Here, our media would attempt to do the same in a similar event, but laws are much tougher to do so, it to protect the innocent until proven guilty and other influence peddling.
Damien Charles
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteLet me be clear....I am not attempting to justify the death.
I am urging balance.
Thanks to the media, Obama, and Jesse Jackson, and others, the cat is out of the bag according to the meme that Martin is a martyr.
Either demonizing or sanctifying Martin is wrong. So is politicizing this event.
Will,
ReplyDeleteCould be, I guess.
Or maybe Martin wishes that he were related to Malik Shabazz?
Time Magazine's video of the grieving parents.
ReplyDeleteNow, I do not doubt that these parents are grieving. Of course they are!
But the father went to bed without checking to see if his son had arrived home?
Another question: Were those recent pictures mentioned by the father used in the media blitz we are now enduring?
Will, you mean the Mallik Shabazz who wasn't at the White House? Remember? His name was on the guest list several times but when people got wind of it, the WH said "not that one" imagine?
ReplyDeleteThey did it again recently with a really seedy character with an even more unusual name and deny it, too.
AOW...look at that boy. ANy resemblance to Obama other than skin color? NO. SO, isn't that what Obama means "he's black, too!"? THAT is how DISGUSTING he is in having said this kid could be his son. There's a little girl who was killed recently, why didn't he say she could have been his daughters?
There was a white kid hurt in Kansas City recently, black kids poured gas on him and lit him on fire. Where was Obama to claim what a tragedy that was?
Another shameless and lame attempt by haters on the right to discredit the victim
ReplyDeleteI think what you've had here is a clash between TWO distinctly unpleasant, anti-social types who more or less mirrored each other's negative characteristics.
ReplyDeleteI do not know whether this black boy was in that neighborhood for a legitimate purpose, or whether, as some have suggested, he was there merely to "case the joint" for possible future robbery or vandalism, or whether he went there just to stir up trouble, because he knew he didn't really belong there, and was bound to raise more than a few eyebrows at the very least.
If this Zimmerman was the nit-picking, fault-finding, self-righteous type who goes out looking for trouble in order to have a "good" excuse to vent his pent up hostilities, he certainly found what he was looking for. I, personally, consider such busybody types to be obnoxious and thoroughly reprehensible. Such people a born would-be tyrants.
Add "race" to the mixture of ardent authoritarianism with mischievous, anti-social, possibly criminal behavior, and you've got something really dangerous.
I don't know all the facts, but I suspect this is one of those cases where EVERYONE INVOLVED was EQUALLY WRONG.
~ FreeThinke
Free Thinker:
ReplyDelete"Black BOY."
You just showed YOUR racial stripes, sir.
BZ
Paladin, you say "Fact is this punk was in struggle with Zimmerman for his gun, and he got capped...too bad".
ReplyDeleteIs it a fact? Were you there, have you seen the evidence, did you witness it yourself. Did the now deceased victim declare his intentions somehow before going out.
The fact is your assumptions without actual "facts" is exactly what is the problem in your country when it comes to issues like this.
The other fact is that it is comments like yours that gets up the nose of similar hot-heads like Jesse Jackson whom will automatically go for the opposite.
What America needs in its justice system is for people without "facts" mouthing off what they think are "facts" and leave it to professionals.
D Charles
AOW
ReplyDeleteWas Martin an Angel? Nobody thinks he was an Angel, but part of me thinks Zimmerman went about this wrong.
1) Most Cops identify themselves and are proactive. A simple conversation is all that needed to be done.
2) Having not followed the protocol
and followed Martin we don't know what happened other than Martin beat the stuffing out of Zimmerman
and Martin got shot.
3) Zimmerman had domestic altercations and some unknown episode with an ATF agent.
There is much we don't know and the media and Obama are making matters worse.
Law enforcement needs to be done by pros.
More witnesses are coming forward, more information about Zimmerman's injuries. I'm waiting for all the facts, but I think Obama has fueled the fire of racism and given the Black Panthers and the Justice Brothers a green light
ReplyDeleteAs Rush Limbaugh said today, this is like the Lacross situation
Debbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com
@ D Charles He was in struggle with this punk gangster FACT! Do you read the papers ? Or are you just an idiot? Me thinks your one of those half wits from Merry Ol England ! lol ! Worry about the UK shithole...we don't need the advice of a limey socialist here in the USA. This punk is dead because he was stupid. Another telltale sign is the Police or FBI have'nt laid charges either...and they probably won't. The Grand Jury convenes this week , lets see what they say...ok ol chap ? LOL ! Carry On !........
ReplyDeleteI read in a blog comment elsewhere this morning that women's jewelry and a screwdriver were found in Trayvon Martin's locker. Is that true?
ReplyDeleteFrom this source:
ReplyDeleteMartin was suspended a number of times from Krop Senior High School in Miami Gardens for infractions ranging from tardiness and truancy up to possession of marijuana and a screwdriver that the school's security staff described as a "burglary tool."
The troubling incidents date back to October 2011, when Martin was allegedly caught with a horde of women's jewelry and the aforementioned screwdriver, according the Miami Herald. According to a report issued by Trayvon's school district, on October 21, security camera footage showed Trayvon Martin and two other students writing "W.T.F." on a hallway locker. A security guard saw the footage, detained Trayvon and searched his bag for the offending marker. In the process of the search, the guard uncovered 12 pieces of women's jewelry, a watch and the screwdriver....
More at the above link.
Check out what Trayvon Martin's mother is doing:
ReplyDeleteMARCH 26--The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name....
Z,
ReplyDelete.look at that boy. ANy resemblance to Obama other than skin color? NO. SO, isn't that what Obama means "he's black, too!"? THAT is how DISGUSTING he is in having said this kid could be his son.
Obama loves to play the race card.
This time, he's stepped in a pile of excrement.
Be sure to see the comment I left just above this one. Charming, huh?
BZ,
ReplyDeleteNot all blacks have a problem with the term "boy," especially if that individual is under age 18.
I know this for a fact because one of my dearest friends who is black told me so. She constantly refers to her sons as "boys," and when I hesitated to use the word "boy," she replied: "I don't have a problem with that. Those years should be behind all of us." Interesting take, huh?
Beak,
ReplyDeleteLaw enforcement needs to be done by pros.
I won't argue with that.
But Neighborhood Watch groups have become a necessity because the police can't be everywhere.
Zimmerman was on the lookout in a neighborhood with a lot of trouble with burglaries.
Zimmerman did have a permit to carry concealed -- or so I've read.
Should he have been carrying as a member of Neighborhood Watch? According to their regs, no. However, had he not been carrying, Zimmerman might well have been the dead individual. We just don't know exactly what happened. I think that it is POSSIBLE that Martin pursued Zimmerman. Again, we just don't know.
According to Tweets to the dead "Da Nigga" (or some such as Martin identified himself on Twitter), a "tribute" to Martin praised him for stomping on Zimmerman.
I don't think that Zimmerman pursued Martin because Martin was black. I DO think that Martin jumped Zimmerman because Zimmerman is not black. Just my theory.
FT,
ReplyDeleteI suspect this is one of those cases where EVERYONE INVOLVED was EQUALLY WRONG.
Probably so.
However, it may be that LEGALLY Zimmerman did nothing criminally wrong.
IF Zimmerman had not spotted Martin, both would be alive right now.
IF Martin had not attacked Zimmerman (assuming that were the case -- use of subjunctive here), then both would be alive.
If, if, if....
Old adage: "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."
I do wonder if a grand jury will indict Zimmerman in the hopes of avoiding race riots. Such a bill would be a travesty of justice -- if that bill were to come down for such a reason.
Statement from former NAACP leader C. L. Bryant (in part):
ReplyDeleteFormer NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”
[...]
The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”
[...]
“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”
Good morning, AOW,
ReplyDeleteUsually, I'm catching up with email at this hour, but email is not functioning today, so I'm here a little early.
Bloviating Zeppelin just raised a significant point, I think, unintentionally.
From what I've been able to gather BZ considers him or herself to be "Conservative," yet BZ is, apparently, so badly afflicted with the sickness of political correctness that he or she felt compelled to direct this remark at me:
'"Black BOY."
'You just showed YOUR racial stripes, sir.'
Well, I'm sorry, but this poor dead character was, indeed, black and he was a boy -- certainly not a girl, certainly not yet a man -- so I cannot see anything wrong in what I said, and refuse to accept criticism for it.
BZ obviously does not know it, but he or she has been so conditioned and so internally cowed by the assault led by Cultural Marxists that he or she is unconsciously doing their bidding by succumbing to these absurd restrictions the Marxists have succeeded in building into our language.
Now if I had called the dead boy "that damn nigger" or "that no account porch monkey" or something of the sort, BZ might have had a case, but when a person is accurately described as what they are -- in this case "a black boy," or more formally "a Negro youth" -- the criticism is not only unwarranted it's symptomatic of the disease with which the nation has been deliberately infected by those who have sought for well over a hundred years to destroy our civilization.
It also reveals another destructive attitude that has very sadly become part of who we are -- the very tendency this fellow Zimmerman, himself, displayed -- and that is to look at things primarily for the purpose of finding fault. The phrase made popular in the enemedia is "looking for the GOTCHA! moment."
Not to pick endlessly on BZ, but it's pretty obvious from the tone of his or her remarks that there was no interest in understanding the meaning of my remarks, but only a desire to find something that might justify making an unpleasant criticism.
Sorry to belabor the point, but I think it's very important to note that THIS is the exact way the Cultural Marxists have conditioned us TO TURN ON EACH OTHER -- as the Republican Primary candidates have done with their circular firing squad methodology -- instead of focusing our critical and analytical capabilities on crippling and destroying THEM -- our cultural and ideological enemies.
It's a very very important point I have just made. I wonder how many will see its significance, instead of taking it as a point of departure to justify yet-another set of barbed remarks misdirected at a potential ally?
~ FreeThinke
FT,
ReplyDeleteBZ is an officer in law enforcement. I think that, like teachers, police officers are taught not to use the term "boy" in reference to a black male of any age. I know this for a FACT because I received such instructions in one of my teacher's training classes.
BZ's web site in indeed a conservative one, and BZ is not typically politically incorrect.
BZ is also blogging about Trayvon Martin.
FT,
ReplyDeleteYou know, this cultural Marxism as divided us to the point of no return -- or to the point of some kind of revolution.
I've seen America divided before, but never so hyped up with rudeness. Not speaking of BZ here as he is "a friend" on the web.
But all of us -- left, right, and center -- are on edge. Myself included. Sometimes I have to restrain myself from exploding when I make comments. At home, I say so often, "What is WRONG with people?" If I were a drinking person, I'd be at the bottom of Jack Black every single day.
Hey, is it okay to type in "Jack Black"? [sarcasm]
PS: My email was working earlier, but I haven't really responded to anything there yet. Too busy planning an outing this weekend -- plus fixing breakfast, getting ready to go to work, all the usual. The Beak may be coming to DC for a day! Mr. AOW and I haven't seen him for over two years, and we are all looking forward to seeing each other again.
Off topic....Can't help myself from typing this in.
ReplyDeleteOh, mercy!
There is a Miss Universe controversy! A transgender contestant has been banned, and the spin in the news is that he/she should be allowed in the pageant. People are already signing a petition protesting the banning of this transgender contestant.
Lst time o said something truthful.....the punk's a low life thieving thug, so he WOULD be exactly like o.
ReplyDeleteThe goal is not to get reelected. Obama already revealed on an open mic that he is going to get reelected.
ReplyDeleteThe goal is civil unrest. As usual the Regulator in Charge and most Americas were given a slanted dview of events--conclusions were drawn and the result a ready made rallying point. The OWS movement fizzled but this might stick....
" ...like teachers, police officers are taught not to use the term "boy" in reference to a black male of any age. I know this for a FACT because I received such instructions in one of my teacher's training classes."
ReplyDeleteYes, and that is is precisely what I mean when I say the Cultural Marxists have been so successful in permeating our culture with absurd, divisive nonsense in the names of "sensitivity," and "fairness."
Like every other word we know the true meaning is found not so much in the word, itself, but in the TONE and CONTEXT in which it's used.
By politicizing and potentially criminalizing virtually everything in reach and in sight the left has successfully HAMSTRUNG the majority, and made it impossible to be themselves without giving "offense" that is deemed reprehensible and punishable.
I have been blest to be able to remain independent of any organization for many years, so my views are no longer "realistic," I know, but I am not unaware of what would be expected of me were I to return to the work force in any capacity.
The way things are set up today becoming a slave to Political Correctness is inevitable. I think that's a tragedy for this nation-- and for all of Western Civilization.
Eventually this tyrannical stifling of free will and honest opinion WILL backfire, and when it does, the explosion is likely to be more devastating than Krakatoa, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Mount St. Helens combined.
The Truth may not be pretty -- and it certainly never flatters anyone -- but eventually it must prevail, and it is the only thing that could ever set us free.
God IS Truth among many other things, so we KNOW positively Truth cannot fail. It is our attempts to DENY Truth that bring about all the trouble.
~ FreeThinke
Just to reemphasize:
ReplyDeleteMy reaction to BZ's comment was not really directed at BZ, nor was it an attempt to "get back at it him," or criticize him personally.
It was -- as I have said too laboriously -- an attempt to share my perception and understanding of the degree to which PC has permeated and taken over our culture without most of us even being aware of it.
The major thrust of work the Cultural Marxists have performed over the past century has been done insidiously -- by craft, guile, stealth and subterfuge. Their true intentions have always been cloaked in the guise of something OTHER.
They have succeeded so well in subverting, perverting, misrepresenting the Christian understanding of righteousness that it now serves a totalitarian agenda.
Isn't Satan also known as The Great Deceiver?
In that case the Cultural Marxists -- Communists, Socialists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats -- whatever you want to call them -- truly have become Servants of the Devil.
~ FreeThinke
The professional race baiters and the MSM are promoting violence and they are probably going to get it. Shameful!
ReplyDeletePaladin
ReplyDeleteLooking at your language, I suspect your a child, or still one at heart. "Or are you just an idiot?"
I repeat my point. You call the dead youth a "punk" and call it a fact. Your claim to knowledge is the newspapers. Enough said, your not even serious and just one who like to mouth off.
My point is, and I will repeat it again and again, we do not know all the facts, no matter how much the Newspapers or TV Pundits or even "get paid a lot to sound exciting lawyers" on TV shows.
More importantly, if/when there is a legal inquest, they are not going to give a flying fig to those shouting because "they read it in the paper" and consider the youth a "punk" all based on their opinions.
Equally so, I not only condemn the media and the political parties trying to score voter points but I even more condemn the so-called moral crusaders like Rev Jackson who had to open his mouth and assume innocence on the youth - because he was black.
We simply do not know the entire story, it could very well be that he jumped Zimmerman because he was more and more becoming a "punk", but we do not know.
Anyone who thinks they know, is simply guessing and fooling themselves.
Concentrate, as in fact AOW is, on the amount of politics involved. Even better, spend time on looking at the implications of the law and socially if the matter is not cleared up. I do not fear for Zimmerman, I disagree that he is "cooked", simply because there is just as much overzealous speculation focusing on the youth which counterbalances it. Just another typical day of media and blog frenzy.
By the way Paladin, your gross negligent assumptions about everything is the sign of a ratbag who loves to see exciting words typed under his name on blogs. That juvinile sample is clear enough with your postings, foul language, name calling and blindly stupid remarks like "half wits from Merry Ol England", "UK shithole"..."limey socialist"
You condemned yourself to being of no value.
D Charles
This Willie Horton moment is brought to you by the NRA.
ReplyDeleteHere is a fact: Zimmerman is a registered Democrat.
ReplyDeleteDamien Charles,
ReplyDeleteZimmerman may well be in danger. After all, the Black Panthers have formed a posse to hunt him down.
Also, if I have the details correct, Zimmerman and his wife have had to leave their home because of threats.
In my classes today, several students were under the impression that Zimmerman, a white man, hunted down and murdered Trayvon Martin, a black teenager and a clean-cut teenager.
ReplyDeleteSee? That's what the media has accomplished: spreading hate -- and capitalizing on the ever-present, erroneous, nebulous "white guilt."
Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for possession of marijuana?
ReplyDeleteI had read that he was suspended for breaking into an unauthorized area of the school. Perhaps that's how he was busted for pot - he broke into somewhere on school property he wasn't supposed to be to spark up his doobage.
(Me and my friends back in high school used to break into the school's underground fallout shelters to smoke cigarettes... full disclosure)
George Zimmerman reported to police (it's on the 911 tapes) that he appeared to be "on drugs."
This story just keeps getting better, doesn't it?
You know what I like about Obama? He never, ever, ever, learns his lesson from shooting his mouth off.
Zimmerman may well be in danger. After all, the Black Panthers have formed a posse to hunt him down.
ReplyDeleteAnd Martin's mother is trademarking his name to sell stuff, presumably to cover the $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman's head.
AOW, have you a link (evidence) that the Panthers have put out a "hit" on Zimmerman? Beamish suggested, obviously not real that the youth's parents have paid 10k for killing him. That flippent comment is an example of not only the crude and ugly side of comments but considering how gullible people are (such as your students) then trash talk like that should be a worry as well. That is why I state, got a fact that is not questionable, then fine, but leave judgementals to the courts.
ReplyDeleteDamien Charles
AOW, do you have the link to the story you quoted in the comment section? I might use that over at my place.
ReplyDeleteThis is definitely the Lacrosse situation 2.0!
Newly found Reagan Journal:
ReplyDelete"The Republican party today merely just uses God as a means to get votes, and I don’t believe Jesus would want to be used as a marketing tool. I regret my decision to become Republican and if I had to do it all over again I would have remained in the Democratic party and ran on their ticket. They seem to instill the core values I believe in, such as a collective philosophy. I thought for a while the Democrats left me, because we used to agree on so much, it turns out that I did indeed leave them, and I would do anything to take it all back. Now as I sit here as an old man, I can only imagine, “what if…”"
http://www.freewoodpost.com/2012/03/25/newly-found-reagan-journal-reveals-the-former-president-regretted-becoming-republican/
LOLOLLLLL!!!!!
AOW
ReplyDeleteWhile I have focused on Zimmerman's
errors lets talk about Martin's.
If you dress like a criminal people
might think you are a criminal. Would Zimmerman have done anything
other than laugh if Martin were dressed like Urkel.
If you are fat and middle aged and wearing a hoodie you are a slob. If you wear it while jogging you are a jock. If you are a teen you are a criminal unless you get very fat and can present yourself as a slob. Being a slob and a criminal are not mutually exclussive.
So the kid may have been a drug pusher and pot head. What makes anyone think that a hypothetical son of obama would be like this.
ReplyDeleteMatt,
ReplyDeleteTo which story are you referring? Please let me know.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteHERE is the link you requested.
There are multiple links available. Google search Black Panthers Zimmerman.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeletePS: I believe that the Black Panthers also issued a "wanted dead or alive" poster. See THIS.
Photo of the dead-or-alive poster HERE.
ReplyDeleteLiberalmann,
ReplyDeleteYou really have outdone yourself with idiocy.
From that link you left:
His journal revealed this passage from an entry dated 8/25/2002
Even IF he did actually wrote those words (I doubt it!), Reagan was clearly non compos mentis in 2002 and in full-blown dementia. Reagan died in 2004.
LIBERALMANN, ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM DEMENTIA TOO?
Liberalmann,
ReplyDeleteYou need to get off the crack pipe!
Beak,
ReplyDeleteYou are right to point out errors on the part of both Zimmerman and Martin.
When kids gangsta dress, put outrageous things on social web site, smoke, drink, etc,, they are sending a message -- sometimes not a message that they intend to send because so many teenagers are striving to be cool and to garner peer approval.
That neighborhood where Martin was wearing the hoodie (etymologically related to "hoodlum," BTW) had suffered multiple burglaries, and the residents were FED UP.
As one whose house was burglarized, I do understand how the residents of the gated community felt. Home invasion is a terrible thing! And I'm not referring only to the financial loss, which often can be recovered from. The psychological effects of home invasion last long and result in sleepless night after sleepless night.
Obama 2012 hoodies:
ReplyDeletelot has been made about the hoodie lately. Not only has Geraldo partially blamed it for the death of Trayvon Martin, but it’s also become a symbol of unity for standing with the slain teen and his family.
So when the Obama camp announced via Twitter yesterday that it was putting its 2012 hoodies on sale, it got some thinking: Is the President trying to capitalize off the death of Martin?
Store looted in protest of the killing of Trayvon Martin.
ReplyDeleteI just posted this at Western Hero under the "It's Murder" Thread. Silverfiddle may have precipitous in his initial rush to judgment.
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If some unauthorized, suspicious-looking person is walking around in my yard, plucking at my bushes, manhandling my heat pump, or peeping in at my windows, he's liable to get a face -- or an ass -- full of lead.
Unfortunately I live in a place where I am compelled to belong to a Neighborhood Association. A past president was just like this Zimmerman fellow in that she was known to prowl around in peoples' back and side yards searching out "violations" and minor infractions of our by-laws.
In other words she was a bitch on wheels and a born troublemaker. It's a wonder she never did get shot or bludgeoned to death. Plenty of people would not have mourned her passing, I can tell you that.
Luckily for us all she moved away, and that settled that.
The only thing worse than a thug is a zealously officious, self-righteous busybody.
DEATH to AGGRESSORS of ALL stripes!
~ FreeThinke
FT,
ReplyDeleteWe have prowlers like that woman you've described here too.
But they don't always prowl. Instead, they get out their binocular and their zoom-lens cameras. Then, they hop onto the county web site, which has FRONT AND CENTER the number to call to report violations. Even if I've already moved something that temporarily violates a zoning ordinance (Don't ever leave out in plain sight a sprinkling can or other other items for more than 48 hours!), that nosy neighbor has photos to show the zoning enforcement officer.
Now that we have a handicapped ramp here -- it's a big one -- the county ignores my neighbor's complaints.
Meanwhile, this same neighbor hauls her raked leaves and grass clippings ACROSS THE STREET and dumps this "arboreal waste" onto my back lot, which is wooded. She doesn't sneak around when she does this. Oh, no! It's not a violation of county ordinance for her to dispose of "arboreal waste" in that manner. Go figure!
FT,
ReplyDeleteBTW, the woman I just described works for the National Labor Relations Board.
FT,
ReplyDeleteAbout a rush to judgment....
The media didn't do so, IMO. Rather, the media full well knew more details about Trayvon Martin than they were telling.
Lately, the media have been backtracking a bit. Why? Because bloggers started digging up other info and blasting it all over the place.
Now, Trayvon Martin's parents are complaining that their son's reputations is being maligned. Well, these parents KNEW that Trayvon was no "lamb of God"; according to Trayvon Martin's video interview at Time, he called his son "the lamb of God." I do sympathize with grieving parents. Yes, I do. But if they hadn't gone so public with their son's death, Trayvon Martin's reputation wouldn't have been "maligned" in the first place!
Well, AOW,
ReplyDeleteHere's a little more gasoline to add to the fire:
THIS IS MORE ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH THAN IT IS ABOUT TRAYVON
New Orleans Officer Resigns after Trayvon Comments
NEW ORLEANS — A New Orleans police officer has resigned after being suspended for posting a comment on a local television station's website about the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin in which he suggested the Florida teen died like a "thug."
Jason Giroir used his full name and identified himself as a New Orleans Police Department employee when he wrote, "Act like a thug die like one!" in response to a WWL-TV article about a rally supporting Martin.
Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas suspended Giroir indefinitely without pay Monday. On Tuesday, Giroir resigned after being told allegations against him had been sustained and a hearing to begin his termination was in motion.
The 17-year-old black teenager was unarmed and shot in Sanford, Fla., by a neighborhood watch captain who said he acted in self-defense.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57405523/new-orleans-officer-resigns-after-trayvon-comments/
I still think it's incredible that this relatively trivial Trayvon thing has taken all the attention away from the SOCTUS hearings on Obamacare, which is a FAR FAR FAR more important issue.
______________________________
So sorry that things in your area -- a place I've always enjoyed visiting -- have succumbed so much to the Police State Mentality. I take that as a sure sign that liberals predominate and liberals are in charge.
The passion to mind other people's business in an officious, domineering way is a decidedly "liberal" characteristic.
I grew up a privileged kid in a really "nice" town-- one of the premier "bedroom communities" around New York City -- and this kind of aggressively critical, troublemaking, always sniping at each other attitude was unheard of -- till certain crassly ambitious, nouveau richepay me to live there today.
~ FreeThinke
Sorry that post got mangled.
ReplyDeleteWhat I MEANT to say was:
I grew up a privileged kid in a really "nice" town-- one of the premier "bedroom communities" around New York City -- and this kind of aggressively critical, troublemaking, always sniping at each other attitude was unheard of -- till certain aggressive, crassly ambitious, nouveau riche elements from the City bulldozed their way in and eventually took over.
Thanks to that regrettable phenomenon home isn't home anymore.
You couldn't pay me to live there today.
~ FreeThinke
Liberalmann: The Reagan Diary entry you cite is clearly a fake.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that you people constantly trot out fakes and hoaxes to try and score a cheap political point? Fake diaries, fake national guard documents for Bush, fake global warming crap. It's all fake, fake, fake and the only people STUPID enough to swallow the fraud are already voting for Obama.
But I do appreciate how you Dems all of a sudden take the word of Reagan as gospel. So, when I cite his views on defense and foreign policy I can expect you to agree, right?
AOW,
ReplyDeletethanks for the links, that is very disturbing. My thoughts are that vigilantism in any form is exactly what is not needed in your country. I also consider, with all respect, that to much discussion on the case itself, only promotes it.
Though I am not accusing you of it, in fact your discussing the polticising just as much and that, I agree is worth discussing.
Damien Charles
"In every government on earth is some trace of human weakness, some germ of corruption and degeneracy, which cunning will cultivate, and improve. Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe their minds must be improved to a certain degree."
ReplyDelete“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
"What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
Submitted by FreeThinke
"Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?
ReplyDelete"Forbid it, Almighty God!
"I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
~ Patrick Henry (1736-1799)
Submitted by FreeThinke
It's disgusting how the media has warped this case.
ReplyDeleteI heard on the Oldies station that there were witnesses saying that this "kid" was banging Zimmerman's head on the concrete and was bleeding. Zimmerman was screaming for help.
Unbelievable what is happening. And how the media is turning races against each other.
The politicizing of the death of Trayvon Martin on the house floor. Sheesh.
ReplyDeleteDamien Charles,
ReplyDeleteThough I am not accusing you of it, in fact your discussing the polticising just as much...
Actually, I'm trying to defuse the politicizing of the death of Trayvon Martin.
The LAST think I want to see in America is more division of the races, particularly to the point of race riots and looting. The latter has already happened in a WalMart in Florida. **sigh**
Leticia,
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable what is happening. And how the media is turning races against each other.
It's hideous, isn't it?
I'm still OUTRAGED that nobody is holding Jesse Jackson to account for what he said: that Trayvon Martin was shot in the head. Jackson full well knows otherwise. Has he publicly retracted his inflammatory statement(s)?
AOW/Leticia,
ReplyDeleteI agree 100 per cent, that Jesse Jackson is "untouchable" really, really irks me to no end. His comment was everything that he is supposed to not represent. Again, if there was a coronial inquest here in the UK (and most EU states) and he made that comment, he would be charged with contempt (regardless of being in the court).
You almost forget with all his politics that somewhere at the beginning of his name is the word "Reverend"......
Damien Charles
Seven who look like Obama's son pummel Hispanic teenager (California):
ReplyDeleteSeven black teens have been arrested on suspicion that they committed a hate crime when they attacked a 15-year-old Hispanic boy while he was walking home from school in Southern California, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office.
[...]
The video shows as many as 10 boys surrounding the victim and challenging him to a fight. The suspects then began hitting the teen while others watched....
You haven't taken down the photo yet, AOW. It isn't Martin and even a real creep like Michelle Malkin has apologized for using it.
ReplyDeleteSource seems to be Stormfront which considering your sympathies for the EDL seems fitting
Duck,
ReplyDeleteI haven't been on the web much (posts are queued up and are posting automatically).
THIS PHOTO, the one with a shirtless individual, is indeed fake. But the one I posted?
Duck,
ReplyDeleteAnd let's get one thing clear. I'm not any kind of adherent to Stormfront. In fact, until a few years ago, when I was doing some research on the BNP, I hadn't even known that Stormfront even existed. I don't run in such circles.
As for the EDL, "reviews" are conflicting. If I recall correctly, Lionheart has repudiated the EDL. Others are saying that the EDL is not racist. I'm not in the UK, so I don't know the facts about the EDL.
But I will say this....Things are so bad in Luton that it would not be a wonder if people there did join white supremacist organizations. Today, I posted a video about Luton. Assuming that the information in that video is correct, how would YOU react if you were to return to your hometown and see such goings on?
You want very much to prove me a racist. Well, I'm not. YOU are the one who hates "brown skins." And Jews, too, for that matter.
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Is THIS not racism?
Is THIS not racism? I read somewhere this morning that the victim of that second attack is on life support.
Both of those stories to which I've linked in this comment are not on the national news. Why not?
More photos of Trayvon Martin (aka "No Limit Nigga") HERE.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
ReplyDeleteYou said: [this portion deleted because of vulgarity] were talking 17 year old boy
A 17-year-old boy can use deadly force. At this point, with new photos having been released, it appears that Zimmerman was injured by Martin during the attack; that injury may lead to a jury's conclusion of self-defense.
If the races in this incident were reversed, you'd be among those who defended the survivor.
As for Obama, he interjected himself into this debate.
AS USUAL, REVS SHARPTON AND JACKSON NEVER LET A TRAGEDY GO TO WASTE. BUT IF I WERE A REPORTER, THIS FIRST QUESTION TO SHARPTON WOULD BE "CAN YOU TELL US SOME MORE ABOUT TUWANNA BRAWLEY?" AND THE FIRST QUESTION TO REV JACKSON WOULD BE"CAN YOU TELL US SOME MORE ABOUT THE DUKE LACROSSE CASE?" WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL LISTENING TO THE OLD LIARS?
ReplyDeleteIrish Thug,
ReplyDeleteThank you for stopping by and commenting.
People listen to liars because people aren't using what brain cells they have to do even any superficial thinking. **sigh**