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Wednesday, November 7, 2012

The Day After Election Day (With Addendum)

Now, what? 

And what have we learned about America via this 2012 election?

Inauguration Day arrives on January 21, 2013.  The inauguration of the President of the United States cannot occur on January 20 because that date falls on a Sunday next year.

Addendum: Election analysis by Epaminondas of Infidel Bloggers Alliance below the fold (lightly edited and with emphases mine):
Women voted for Obama, men voted for Romney, and more women voted than men.

White voters voted in the lowest proportion since 1972. Less than 72%.

Blacks, and Latinos went overwhelmingly, and 2-1 for Obama respectively.

The Obama ground game WAS REAL.

There wasn’t a single surprise.

Most of the polls were EXACTLY on target, and in some case wrong in favor of Romney.

New Hampshire was a blowout. Rural counties went overwhelmingly for Obama in NH.

Obama won EVERY swing state and leads in FL, and in some case by more than by tiny margins.

Result, with Democrats holding 51 seats in the new senate and the Republicans down 6-8 and still completely in control of the House, the election achieved NOTHING.

Obama is PRECISELY who we know him to be. Republican leadership in the House has just said they are NOT GOING TO GIVE IN. We are going to face the fiscal cliff in weeks, and the national debt will again reach its legal limit soon.

Obama will try to get around this with executive fiats and sometime in the next 4 years is going to face a Constitutional challenge.

Any increase in fossil fuel supplies will be due to private and state initiatives.

Sell your coal stocks. Dump General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman and Boeing. Get rid of Pfizer, Lilly, and Merck.

Barack Obama is not going to change the tactics which have rewarded him politically. He is going to demonize his enemies (his domestic ones, anyway) and try to tar the Republicans as the party of no. Therefore any real chances of compromises will be minimal.

Businesses are just where they were yesterday and the day before. Therefore hiring and business expansion will be exactly where it was.

The Republicans are the ones who will face the decisions.

Scott Brown was TROUNCED.

Mourdock and Akin lost (AND DESERVED TO) and those who identify with the Tea Party need to think about why it is that people like them, and O’Donnell, are the ones running for office, and limit their efforts to the issues which caused the great reversal of 2010 .. responsible financial behavior, personal responsibility, and adherence to the constitution.

Abortion and other faith related issues are LOSERS. This is not a value judgment but it is a fact.

Barring a cataclysmic event, foreign policy will recede even more from the key decision points of voters in this 50-50 nation.

So how do Republicans put together a winning combination of voter blocs?

IMMIGRATION REFORM. It’s that simple and that ugly.

The FACTS are that with a shrinking white voter population the ideals of the founders are shrinking with them because the Democrats are appealing to voter's addicting tendencies. That is an observation.

This is working. That is an observation.

It’s ‘nice’ to not worry about what might happen to you and know the govt is there to pick you up. Soon, the memory of a self-reliant America will be gone and those here will simply think this is how it is to be.

Unless the ideals of the founders can be expanded to other populations, IT’S OVER, and the future political battles will be between the far left of the demo party and it’s left of center- center.

Barack Obama has no mandate and no plan. He is going to face a vicious inquiry head manned by John McCain, as it should be. Will it matter? Even if a WH cover up is discovered, and the House of Representatives votes to impeach, will a Harry Reid Senate ever convict even with as smoking gun? Will the populace have patience for this?

Obama faces the fiscal cliff with no idea what to do except some blunting by the executive, and a new debt crisis. When the IRS starts sending out those special forms REQUIRING YOU to report your health insurance status (that is a fact) there will be an unhealthy response. Nothing is going to change the reversals in the world for individual rights and real freedom, but America is no mood to care.

If the Republicans decide to resist all irresponsible financial behavior by a man with no mandate, then they had better be moving to encompass the growing Latino population of this nation.

In a land of bitter choices, that is the best choice. And a Latino population which supports the idea of the founders is what we need.

Otherwise, get ready for the END of the Republican Party except as diminishing rump shouting about a Constitution which will simply be ignored by a populace worried about extending unemployment compensation, and free breakfasts for the growing population of young students that need them, under a growing umbrella.



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  2. AOW, I deleted the earlier post because I reorganized my thoughts.

    This reminds me of the War of 1812. The Treaty of Ghent ending the war returned everything to pre-war status. No one really won anything.

    For all the complaints of "gridlock" by the citizens, we have the same president, same Senate, same House; everything is right back where it started from. Obama won with even less of the popular votes than in 2008, so he can't say he has a clear mandate.

    Consequently this whole election episode is bizarre. I think it says more about the American electorate than it does about either candidate. This does not bode well for the because I do not believe Obama will "moderate" as some of the pundits are hoping. Lanny Davis said that Obama must be more humble in his approach and learn to work with Republicans like Bill Clinton. However I don't think he possesses that capability and he will go for broke now.

    This time around he will not be able to blame his fiascoes and disasters on Bush, but it may not matter at this point. In the meantime, I will head to bed and sleep well. Electing leaders is important but in the end, they don't have the final say. My faith rests higher than in mere politicians. If it didn't then what would be left except despair?

  3. One of the things that makes me cringe: Obama's upcoming appointments to the SCOTUS. Let's see....Two justices, maybe three.

    Will one be Hillary Clinton? Wouldn't surprise me.

    And what about Benghazi-gate? Will that be upcoming?

  4. Beak's post for today sums up what I, too, believe will be the consequences of the voters' irresponsible decision.

  5. I've now had it confirmed that the majority of the people that make up what was once known as the United States of America, have no self esteem, want someone else to take care of them, have a bizarre sense of entitlement and don't have a clue about what is really about to happen.

    As the saying goes: "Be careful of what you wish for -- you just might get it."

    To the majority of those that cast their vote: Welcome to the United Socialist States of Amerika.

  6. The end of what we knew. For those of us on Medicare, an unsure future indeed.

  7. It wasn't only the choice of the POTUS that should be the reality check.

    Just look at the outcomes of various questions on the ballot!

    This election shows what Americans want. God help us.

  8. The RINO's re-surgent!

    Once again, the Republican Party will double down on stupid.

  9. Post-Election Peace-Offering
    To My Liberal Friends

    The election is over.
    Campaigning is done.
    My party lost,
    Your party won.

    So let’s make amends,
    Continue as friends,
    And let arguments pass,
    While I hug my Dumbo,
    And you kiss your Ass.

    ~ Anne Animus

  10. I want to apologize to everyone. It's my fault Obama got re-elected.

    No no, hear me out. I just couldn't get into pretending the founding father of gay marriage was a "conservative." And when actual conservatives like Newt Gingrich came on the screen, I couldn't bring myself to scream "progressive leftist!" at them.

    I know Ann Coulter made traipsing around with homosexuals look easy, and we all know what fun Glenn Beck had trashing one of the architects of Reagan's conservative revolution and the Contract with America as a veritable communist. Who didn't look at America's largest nstional debt generator, Medicare, and scream "There's a program we should never cut!"

    Well, it's my fault. I was told to throw away my conservative principles and vote for Romney anyway. And I couldn't do it.

  11. Well beamish, if we are to believe the Republican Party, the reason why they lost was that Scott Brown didn't speak Spanish as well as Elizabeth Warren spoke Cherokee.

  12. ...but personally, I think that scaring women into believing that the Republicans are going to tie them up in their basements and make them stay pregnant 24/7/365 is the better way to go in 2016, ideologies be damned!

  13. Now, what...

    I suppose we'll have to chew on that for a bit and then, as Obama says, MOVE FORWARD.

  14. This isn't the end of America. But, the ebd is in sight and not just for America. The end is inn sight for the end of western civilization. In the not to distant future, the worlds fiat monetary system will collapse. Out of this unimagineable tragedy, a new world order will eventually emerge. What it will be like, no one knows. There will be a need for a continued conservative resistance, I believe.

  15. I will have to bide my time before I speak about this.

  16. "Unless the ideals of the founders can be expanded to other populations, IT’S OVER, and the future political battles will be between the far left of the demo party and it’s left of center- center."

    It is over. The constitution is now a living document and the people have spoken.

    We have witnesses a cultural and generational watershed moment.

    Welcome to Europe. We will start a Germany and end up as Greece.

    And the GOP is more to blame than Obama.

  17. If you're lucky, sf, the RNC will let you vote for Jon Huntsman in 2016. It IS his turn, after all.

  18. FJ: A Huntsman is all they will be able to run. Conservatism is dead, killed by a party that never embraced it and championed it.

    We're back to pre-1994.

    We are now a euro-style progressive nation.

  19. The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas, said this in a 1944 speech:

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day, America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

    He went on to say, “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform.”

    Welcome to the United Socialist States of Amerika.

  20. AND, I no longer give any sort of credibility to Fox News. As far as I'm concerned, Fox is nothing more than a token channel from the Lame Stream Media for the conservative right. (I had heard that some time ago... I am now a believer.)

    I would suggest that they change their name to Fox Fantasy or Fox Feel Good.

  21. I am sick AOW, sick, just sick, over the results of last night. I could not bring myself to believe that Obama won again. Another 4 years of even worse policies, he will enact whatever he wants without Congress, we are so screwed.

    What do we do now seems to be the question and I see no clear answers.

    Right Truth

  22. By hook or by crook Obama won the election. In the light of this, I'm glad that I'm no longer a young person and I am sorry for the children of this country.

  23. @ Beamish: Yeah, the GOP would have done so much better with the angry Sta-Puft Marshmallow man you worship.

  24. My mistake, SF. The powers that do the RNC's thinking for them have determined that in 2016 we will be buying the Hispanic vote, so your candidate will be Marco Rubio...

    ...but only AFTER they clean the Tea Party stink off of him.

  25. ...of course, Obama was drenched in "Communist" stink, but somehow HE managed to "rise above it."

    Oh, yeah, that's right. Some guy named Akin said the "R" word... and a Republican "War on Women" was born.

    Those of you with "torches of freedom", smoke em if ya got em.

  26. Of course, Obama was covered in "Communist" stink, but after Akin spoke the "R" word, a "Republican War on Women" had been launched and Mitt Romney was rumoured to be out to ban contraception.

    I guess THAT shows that the "torches of freedom always prevail in the end.

  27. This is totally OT, but would you happen to know how Patrick Kelley of Pagan Temple is doing? He was very sick in the hospital and now is blog is down. I got on his blog on a regular basis, as I know you did, that's why I'm asking you.

  28. We've learned that the extreme right wing is finished.

    Start figuring out how to move center.

    Stop the Obama is a communist nonsense.

    Stick with the likes of Allen West at you peril.

    You took one swing state. One (1).
    That was a major beating and more obstructionism is just going to get you more beatings.

  29. You know, reading the tripe from the smelly anal-lube users that have taken up residence on these comment pages gives me yet another good reason to hang up blogging. (Re: my last post)

    Genuine patriots like yourself post articles and comments here and then the hyenas and jackals come rushing in to attack and smear and think themselves so clever for being such useless chaff.

    I never bothered fielding the foul balls, I just deleted them along with the SPAM, but when you look at how many there are and how assinine and vile they are, you maybe begin to realize the scope of degradation within our population.

    People never used to act that way. Letters to editors were always pretty polite even in strong disagreement. No longer and especially on blogs where these cretins can operate under a cowardly cloak of anonymity.

    Nope, you can have it. I refuse to provide a forum for scum. It's time to take the advice of Ayn Rand, sit back and let them have all the rope they want until they destroy themselves. Is there really any other choice, anyway?

  30. Stop the Obama is a communist nonsense.

    Ducky's afraid that the truth will eventually leak out...

  31. ...and begin to be reported in responsible publications, like The Globe.

  32. There's nothing left to say other than,


  33. FJ: I'm with you.

    Bush-Rubio or Rubio-Bush 2016

    It doesn't matter. We've hit a social and generational inflection point.

    From Main Street to Wall Street, we are addicted to government crack.

    We have also probably passed the financial tipping point. It is no longer if we meet Greece's fate, but when, and before Ducky starts quacking, Obama only shares a part of the blame.

    The GOP had multiple opportunities to right the ship, and they blew it every time. I myself plead guilty since I was stupid enough to cheer them on.

  34. Fellows ~ please. DON"T start pointing fingers at our own. No, no, THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO- FURTHER DIVISION. Don't make them EVEN HAPPIER that they "won". Only about 5% of those that voted are deciding things for the rest of us.
    Something more evil is afoot here. Please keep rank, be vigilant to ferret out the inconsistencies. A HUGE NUMBER DID NOT VOTE THIS ELECTION. THEY DON'T HAVE THINGS ALL SEWN UP. Something under the surface is askew with the numbers.

  35. However, I D~O agree that we should be sniffing around the Republican machine, to see if and what stinks there =AS IN CO-OPERATION WITH THE DEVIL. We KNOW the Democrat/Marxist machine is ripe with corruption. The numbers - what's with the numbers,..? Something is up, and we need to not let it go. Truth-Seeking Alert. It goes deep~ the fungus, the rot.

  36. @Silverfiddle:"It is over. The constitution is now a living document and the people have spoken."
    !!NO IT'S NOT, & because, NO THEY HAVEN'T. The numbers ARE squiffy, and FEWER voted this than last time- Evangelicals voting is an issue,as a LARGE number never vote- and they should- seems a LOT of folks stayed away from the polls last night. Only about 5% are really deciding for the rest of us. MOTIVATING is part of the problem- the rest- CORRUPTION, politicians of both stripes co-operating with each other in double dealing us.

  37. @Woodsterman: NO, they WISH they had us surrounded. They've made smoke and mirrors look that way. WE are still in a majority- no question. But they have some sort of lock on the mechanisms which MUST BE BROKEN.. Help from both sides to achieve this win, I shouldn't wonder. Pray, My Good Fellows, Pray that RIGHTEOUSNESS BE ESTABLISHED. THAT'S a very all-encompassing, and EARTH-MOVING thing to ask for. Gen. 19 & EX 14

  38. FJ,
    I have retrieved a couple of your comments from the spam folder. I have no idea as to why Blogger consigned them to that destination. **sigh**

  39. Rosalie,
    I tried to call Patrick at the hospital that he mentioned in his last post. In fact, I left a message for Patrick with a nurse there. No return call to me ever came.

    You mentioned that his blog is down. I visited there just now and see the blog. Maybe there was a temporary glitch?

    For a while, I did Google search obits. His name never appeared therein.

    Please let me know if you hear anything about Patrick's status. Thanks.

  40. Lady Liberty,
    I think that a lot of people are in shock right now. Hence, you see the discouragement evinced.

  41. Black Sheep,
    I just read your November 7, 2012 post, "Living In A House Of Echoes." I am sorry to see you leave. However, I fully understand your reasoning.

    I expect that other bloggers whose sites I frequent will come to the same decision.

    Those of a certain age have to decide whether to continue on or live our remaining years for what they are.

    I will miss you.

    And if you change your mind, please stop by here if you wish.

    Take care.

  42. Silverfiddle,
    We've hit a social and generational inflection point.

    It certainly does appear that way.

  43. @AoW - Blogger has identified my "suspicious blogging pattern" and relieved me of my Blog... I'm waiting for resolution... which is likely "why" I ended up in your "Spam" folder.

  44. FJ,

    Your blog has been taken away from you?

  45. In yesterdays article you asked what to say to those 2 little girls. I don't think you read the last comment to that article. It might help if you did, or maybe not, but you never know.

    As to Newsbleat, I am done, all done, with trying to wake people up. I've been throwing pearls before sheep. I may take a different direction, still thinking about it, but never again will I try to tell people to watch out for the quicksand when the dumb sons of bitches never listen, never look and never care anyway.

    Meanwhile, I deserve a good vacation from being any sort of blogmaster. Maybe I'll get lucky and December 22 will bring a nuke or a meteor to DC and wipe every last vestige of our current government, all our historical buildings and everything in them. It would also get rid of the 95% who voted for Obama and a lot of the rest of us too. Pray for destruction.

    If nothing else I'll stop in from time to time and say hello.

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  47. The GOP lost becasue they are comprised if lunatic haters and dividers who will liveable any crap Fox News throws out. They have rendered themselves totally irrelevant to contemporary American society.

  48. The GOP lost becasue they are comprised if lunatic haters and dividers who will *believe any crap Fox News throws out. They have rendered themselves totally irrelevant to contemporary American society.

  49. I agree, for the most part, but I respectfully submit the following statement is in error:

    "Businesses are just where they were yesterday and the day before. Therefore hiring and business expansion will be exactly where it was."

    Businesses will not stay the same. They cannot. With tax increases on people making $250,000 or more (mostly business owners, who are the job creators), the cycle of raising prices on goods and services and consumers buying less because of the higher prices, will begin and will continue over and over until the businesses are out of business. This will cause more layoffs and more people on welfare and foodstamps, until the resulting breadlines will equal that of the former Soviet Union.

    In other words, it will get worse. Much worse.

  50. @AoW - Blogger has identified my "suspicious blogging pattern" and relieved me of my Blog... I'm waiting for resolution... which is likely "why" I ended up in your "Spam" folder.

    What??? Who did this to you and how?

    I'd like to get the same thing done to Stevie. She is a dog turd you can't scrape off your shoe...

  51. Lady Liberty,

    I do not criticize your opinion, so please refrain from scolding others.

    The first step to problem solving is to realize you have a problem, and then to properly characterize it.

    The GOP stinks, and I am being charitable and non-vulgar.

    We have hit a generational and cultural watershed. People want free crap and they want a big nanny government with a cute prom king running it.

    It didn't have to be this way. Had the GOP seized Reagan's optimism and free market gospel, we would be facing a different generation now.

    But they didn't so we aren't. The seized power in 1994 and ended up out-Democrating the Democrats, with George W. Bush being the crowning achievement.

    I stood and cheered because I was caught up in un-thinking team sport politics.

    For this, I stand ashamed, and I beg forgiveness from my fellow Right Blogistanis.

    It won't happen again, with me at least. They're all bastards, including George Bush and his little Turd Blossom who blew up on Fox last night. The sooner people learn that, the easier it gets to understand what's really going on.

    So God bless you, but please save your admonitions for someone who will heed them. They are wasted on me.

  52. The reality is one has to pander to the entitled and illegals to win a national election.

    BTW, please leave the comments by Anon up. They are exhibit A for the left.

  53. Black Sheep,
    Mrs. AOW and I will miss your blogging site. But she and I understand why you have quit blogging!

    I am not all that much into blogging. But Mrs. AOW has been since 2005.

    She may take a break for a little while. All the election season blogging put her behind with grading papers.

    Tonight, Mrs. AOW and I are going to get some sleep. Last night was way too long!

  54. Lady Liberty,
    It has been a long day and a long night! And discouraging too.

    Mrs. AOW is exhausted! I hope that she doesn't get sick from lack of sleep!

  55. I promise not to call Mrs. AOW at six a.m. tomorrow. wink

    *I knew you were up already this a.m. and it was so good to hear your cheerful greeting (private joke!)


  56. Yes, Farmers Letters is off the radar for the time being.

    Such is life in the Society of Control.

  57. Uuuuh... and that would be you and yours, liberalguy?

  58. It's all painfully clear and terribly simple:

    In order to gain ascendancy all Republicans have to do it change their names, move to a different state and run as DEMOCRATS.

    I pledge allegiance to DC
    And all the goodies there for me.
    And to the Seduction for which it stands
    One nation up for grabs
    With entitlements from taxes for all.

    What no one ever seems to add is that once Big Nanny has impoverished all the taxpayers -- or driven them out of the country to the Scilly Isles or the Aleutian Archipelago -- there won't BE any more money left to dole out to the grasping millions.

    ~ FreeThinke

  59. Epaminondas makes excellent points. Still we've been through worse. After Goldwater there were books claiming that the Republican Party would never win another election. Reagan proved them wrong when he won and won while professing Goldwater principles.

    Obama was elected but so was the Republican Congress. That includes hardcore Tea Party congressmen. Obama's coattails failed to bring in a new Pelosi-like Congress. Thank God!

    Now what I consider the poetic justice! The $16 trillion debt mess and anti-business policies left from Obama's first term are now his problem. I feared Romney would be blamed for the economic destruction that Obama's policies put in motion. Now it will happen on Obama's watch. He will reap what he sowed. Poetic justice!

  60. @AOW Sorry im late in responding to you on the other thread below.
    Just tell them girls you love them and care about them, and that they are not alone, they have you.
    Your a fine person AOW, and i apologize for my profanity on your blog.
    But Liberals after last night are NOT MY COUNTRYMEN...THEY ARE THE ENEMY !
    I refrain from further exchanges with these worthless turds on this fine blog, they are not even worth responding to, they are too stupid for rational discourse.

  61. That includes hardcore Tea Party congressmen.

    Wishful thinking, Jason. The Baggers got their teeth punched in.

    Even Bachmann barely squeaked through.

    Th fun part would be being a fly on the wall when the Kochs call Rove in to ask what they got for their 400 million.

    John Boner (R-Tanning salon) is already talking up a tax deal.
    The fringe right got crushed.

  62. @ Beamish: Yeah, the GOP would have done so much better with the angry Sta-Puft Marshmallow man you worship.

    Why not? Even John McCain got nearly 5 million more votes in 2008 than your preferred leftist candidate this time around.

    But since Romney lost, I guess Obama can be both your fantasy faithful gay husband and never one to kick a Republican in the ass to get a budget surplus 4 years in a row.

  63. Jason,
    I'm so glad that you stopped by and left your comment!

    I do well recall the period after Goldwater lost in 1964 and all the declarations of the death of conservatism and the death of the GOP. Reagan did indeed prove those declarations dead -- for a while, anyway.

    I look at the time lapse in that cycle Sixteen years! Trends do take hold faster now. How much faster? I can't even hazard a guess.

    You are absolutely correct about the coming harvest from Obama's policies and the poetic justice. My question is this: Are the products of all the years of progressive education capable of recognizing the reality of the cause of the coming misery?

    Ah, well. Let the Left go ahead and try to prove that their policies are the salvation of the world. Those policies have always failed in the past. Why should those policies succeed now? I don't see that possibility as a real one.

    But the Leftist horse has been given its head to run. And run it will!

    It is the sad destiny of mankind to learn the hard way.

  64. Tammy,
    I'm still using that same cheerful greeting. A lot! **wink**

  65. Paladin,
    I've been having outbursts of my own -- but not on the web.

    The girls' mother will be buried Friday in Ethiopia, where she had gone for a visit and died a few short days later. There will be a memorial service here locally, too.

    The two homeschool groups in which the girls are enrolled are pulling together to help out during these horrible days: meals, child care, transportation, etc. It is a possibility that the girls will leave the homeschool groups to attend a school (private Christian, very likely). If so, I will again be grieving: M, the oldest of the children, is one of the finest students I've had in over 40 years of teaching. In the past, I've heard that she is such a fine student in the tradition of her mother, who, apparently, was exceptional in her studies as well.

    I've been double-whammied by this election debacle AND the loss of a parent in the group. This particular parent and I had a more-than-the-usual parent/teacher bond -- even before the children were enrolled in my classes. I had been in their home several times, for example, usually to tutor. As if these girls really NEEDED tutoring! They didn't! But their mother wanted to be sure that they advanced quickly because they were gobbling up all the schoolwork that she could give them! The oldest child was reading Shakespeare ON HER OWN from the age of 8 and writing her own poetry as well. She is also a competent pianist and an athlete (more than one sport). As I said, a student such as M does not come along very often.

  66. Duck,
    Go ahead, gloat while ye may.

    You're a fool if you actually believe that coming debacle won't touch you and yours. You can't eat gold, you know.

    I decided a while back that, if "my" candidate won, I wouldn't hop around all over the web and crow.

    You often claim that we should live by the Sermon on the Mount. Are you doing so? Think about that for a minute.

  67. Any who are reading this thread should read THIS. Go! Read it!

  68. Yes, of course, the leftist dominance of education gives them a substantial advantage. It always has but it is worse now. Given tenure on the college level, this will take over a generation to change. Those of us who learn on our own are too few. But we keep the flame of liberty burning. The be more exact, I should say that you do since you teach the next generation.

    Sorry to hear about the loss of your students mother and clearly a good friend of yours.

  69. Jason,
    Given tenure on the college level, this will take over a generation to change.

    "Ay, there's the rub!"

    Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance leads down the road to ignorance and serfdom.

    My teaching career has, at best, only seven years before I'm no longer keeping the fires of liberty going in that domain.

    And here's something that really worries me....Too many people of principle are willing to work in certain fields for financial expediency when they know FULL WELL that they are doing work contrary to their own principles.

    Historically, living by one's principles of liberty does not bring prosperity. Think of the signers of the Declaration of Independence!

    For a significant period of time here in America, living by the principles of our American ideals did frequently yield prosperity on so many levels. Look at the situation now!

    When you have time, Jason, take a look at the SAT essay prompts. Note the slant. Students are chosen to enter higher education on the basis of their malleability to move to the Left; conservatives are weeded out so much of the time. Thus, tenure and selective admission on the basis of malleability combine to make our institutions of higher learning move even further to the Left. Furthermore, a degree from a college that isn't Leftist isn't very marketable -- or marketable in places that really are not capable of graduating students who will be able to make a higher wage. I see a very vicious cycle!

  70. This is not the America in which I wish to live. I can leave or I can work to change it. I choose the latter, for now.

  71. The analysis is clear enough as is the logical conclussion.

    The conservative movement in America has gone to far to the right and as one person said, they were to involved in people's lives and their bedrooms and not really interested in understanding what the people think.

    The failed conservative challange this time around was because they tried to listen to the noisy, argumentative and unfortunately dominant far-right minority than what the actual public wanted.

    That is sad because the economics was correct, the argument about the economy was an issue that people wanted. The people are suffering and a good message should have won the election, but it failed because Americans though upset and angry (48 per cent did not vote for Obama), they still showed that they had enough confidence in his message, that they believed he understood their problems and that the GOP did not understand women, race and immigration.

    The blame is the view that the white male population choses the President, that the evengelical view somehow MUST overide what the people think. That the view by the Tea-party movement that it should be their view "or else" is somehow more democratic than the actual vote.

    In otherwords, many conservatives and those that control the GOP at present have forgotten the first three words of "we the people".

  72. Anybody else notice Beamish's disturbing gay fixation?

    Reminds me of David Brock right before he came out of the closet and made a hard left turn.

  73. Chuck,
    I took out the trash, so Liberalmann's comment is now gone.

  74. Dreadful day for your country Always, but like Silver Fiddle said, it's a watershed moment, the people have chosen.

    I don't blame Romney or the republicans, it's not the party or the tactics, it's what we are that's been rejected.

    The people have knowingly chosen servitude. Perhaps some were too stupid to know what they've betrayed and trashed.

    Either way what you had is now gone for good.

    I'd like to be angry at the fools that voted for him and bought the shit he was selling, but it's a waste of breath, they'll go into grinding poverty thinking they did the right thing.

  75. Chuck,

    it was not Romney himself but the party. Even with a strong candidate the belief remains that remains that it is the demands of the far-right (that intrudes into freedoms because of religous-based ideals on marriage, contraception and even healthcare) that destroyed the chances for winning the election. Romney was the example with his changes in views that this small but very vocal and well organised (and funded) group within the conservatives will force their views on the majority who neither want them or accept them.

    The facts are their, most women did not support the GOP (ie Romney), most young people did not, most non-whites did not.

    Teh statistics also show that almost half of America were not happy with Obama and voted against him - not necessarily voted for the GOP. That makes it clear enough, the GOP and Romney failed because they no longer represent "the people".

    Time to snatch back the megaphones used by the evangelicals and popularists and bring back Conservatism in America into a more center-based moderate position that actually reflects American life.

  76. Liberalmann, if I could have just one hour alone with you, in a soundproofed room with a razor blade, my fondest dreams would be fulfilled.

  77. Hmmm... I see that the re-post that Liberalmann did, and what my above comment was intended for, is gone.

    But, given the opportunity, my dream still stands.

  78. Marine4ever,
    Periodically, I take out the trash in the comments threads. Hence, Liberalmann's comments disappear.

  79. Like I said Lib, little worm. Only a lib would talk to a good lady like AOW like you do. Lib men sure are manly.

    Anon, you didn't really respond to my comment you just reworded your (erroneous) assertion that Romney was far righ and this is why he was defeated.

    Realize that it is starting to look like conservatives may have stayed home leading to his defeat. If anything lets the air out of your "Romney is far right" line, this does.

  80. Chuck,

    I did. My comment was on the party not the candidate. Romney was in fact a mutating moderate-far-right depending on whom he wanted to impress. His stances in fact moved both ways (ie abortion and say healthcare).

    My point was, and continues to be, that at present any candidate (and shown by Romney) was doomed to be to a degree a pawn to that radical right and thus unelectable.

    Personally I think Romney is a good hearted honest hard working American and given a different set of circumstances could have been a good President - but it could not happen.

    The major subject here is that the current GOP does not represent the people but only a segment and thus does not merit election until it does.

  81. Ever notice Silverfiddle can't take getting his assertions refuted, and falls back to trying to insult his way out of a demolished premise?

    Kind of reminds me of people who claim to understand logic because they've watched every Spock-centric episode of Star Trek.

  82. I have serious doubts that a GOP change in stance on immigration will have the effect of creating more GOP voters. See THIS.

    And here's something else to think about....If the Left want more immigration and/or amnesty, are not the Leftists feathering their future political nests?

    Since when does the Left propose something that doesn't benefit themselves and their cause?

    What did opening the floodgates of immigration do for (or to) Europe?

    You know, it is quite possible that we now live in "America" -- not in America. It is also quite possible that we cannot do a thing about being consigned to "America."

  83. .

    First, see the world as it is.

    Come to grips with reality. We the people won’t be doing as a result of this election:

    We are not going to have a Supreme Court that will overturn Roe vs Wade
    We’re not going to repeal health reform
    Nobody is going to kill Medicare
    We’re not going to give a 20% tax cut to millionaires and billionaires and expect programs like food-stamps and kids health insurance to cover the costs
    We’re not going to redefine rape
    We’re not going to make you clear it with your boss to get birth control
    We’re not going to amend the constitution to stop gay people from getting married
    We’re not going to double Guantanamo
    We’re not going to eliminate the Department of Energy or Education or Housing
    We’re not going to spend $2 trillion on the military that the military doesn’t want
    We’re not going to scale back on student loans
    We’re not vetoing The Dream Act
    We’re not self-deporting
    We’re not letting Detroit go bankrupt
    We’re not starting a trade war with China
    We’re not going to have as Secretary of State a John Bolton
    We’re not bringing Dick Cheney back
    We’re not going to have a foreign policy shop stocked with architects of the Iraq War

    Dispel RW delusions.

    Ohio really did go to the president last night.
    And he really did win.
    And he really was born in Hawaii.
    And he really is -legitimately- President of the United States…Again
    And the Bureau of Labor Statistics did not make-up a fake unemployment rate last month.
    And the Congressional Research Service really can find no evidence that cutting taxes on rich people grows the economy.
    And the polls were not skewed to over-sample Democrats.
    And Nate Silver was not making up fake projections about the election to make conservatives feel bad…he was doing math.
    And climate change is real.
    And rape really does cause pregnancy sometimes.
    And evolution is a thing.
    And Benghazi was an attack on us. It was not a scandal by us.
    And no one is taking away anyone’s guns.
    And taxes haven’t gone up.
    And the deficit is dropping, actually.
    And Saddam Hussein didn’t have weapons of mass destruction.
    And the moon landing was real.
    And FEMA isn’t building concentration camps.
    And UN election observers aren’t taking over Texas.
    And moderate reforms of the regulations on the insurance industry and the financial services industry are not the same thing as communism.

    Have a nice day. USA won. The voters affirm their support for _President_Obama____.

    Ema Nymton

  84. AOW,

    Obama lost in every state that had voter ID laws. That seems too drastic a statistic to be a coincidence!

    Here's another amazing set of statistics:


    Of course your little trolls will explain this away also.

  85. AOW, in regards to Enema Nematode... THANK YOU!
    (She's been noticeably quite for awhile. Does Nurse Ratched know that she's slipped out again?)

  86. Earlier, I typed in Obama lost in every state that had voter ID laws.

    I didn't phrase the above precisely enough.

    I should have said the following:

    Obama won in states without photo ID laws.

  87. Marine4ever,
    I used to have a policy of open commenting here at this blog site.

    Then, I started getting spammed with idiocy.

    This is my property, and I will not tolerate that kind of nonsense on my own property.

    Now, I know that most who comment here consider Duck to be a troll. But he doesn't spam my site. He argues, he disputes, he shows his tail. Not the same thing as copy and pasting the same comment on various blog sites. So, although Duck and I certainly don't agree on most matters, we somehow manage to get along -- most of the time, anyway. Perhaps he respects me enough or something. Whatever.

    Ema and Liberalmann are spammers. I'm done with them. And when someone of a Mennonite-family background is done with somebody, we are DONE with them. Apologies won't cut it once we've made the decision. I learned how to shun from my father: give the warning, and if the line is then crossed, goodbye forever.

  88. As Mustang would say, "Touché"... or, whatever he says in Italian.

  89. AOW,"Obama won in states without photo ID laws."

    The official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results: Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.

    Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout! http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people/

    Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…

    Thewre's more at this link: http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
    And lastly, there's this: It has become blatantly obvious the voter fraud that was committed during the 2012 Presidential elections. In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote!

    This one is particularly damning because it actually says ALL the votes were for Obama!

    All these states don't require photo ID. Jus' sayin'

  90. YE, GODS!!!

    You can't make up this stuff:

    St. Lucie County, Florida also in Allen West's district Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County.(PP).Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday. Barack Obama won the county.

    When faced with the astronomical figures, Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she had no idea why turnout was so incredibly high.

  91. Mark and AOW -- After the past four years of fraud, lies and cover ups, this is galling (to say the VERY LEAST) but hardly surprising.

    What I DON'T understand is that fixed voting irregularities rumors have been swirling for years and nothing was put in place to police it.

    Never mind. I just answered my own question -- in EVERY socialist/communist country, the socialist/communist candidate ALWAYS wins. We headed down that road in November of 2008 and NEVER looked back.

    With all that's happened in the PAST four years, are we able to even imagine what will happen in the FUTURE four years?!

    Phase II begins. Welcome to the United Socialist States of Amerika.

  92. face palm

    In St. Lucie County, Florida, "cards counted" are the number of pages of the ballot scanned. Scroll down to the bottom of the report and you get the more relevant number "votes counted."

    There may well be some voter fraud in Obama's victory over the founding father of gay marriage, but this isn't a case of that.

  93. It may be a case of not only some voter fraud but rather a lot of voter fraud. See THIS.

  94. I just don';t believe Obama NEEDED fraud to be re-elected.

    Mitt Romney was such an uninspiring, dull, UNELECTABLE candidate that I'm surprised "anyone-but-Obamaism" buoyed him up so high. I'm stil trying to figure out how Romney got more than 12% of the popular vote.

  95. beamish, I may get death threats from some of the other commentors on this blog (and I have this urge to swallow my tongue,) but there may be some truth to what you say. I always wanted it to be, at the least, The Newt.

    ...this, ALSO, helps me to better understand why WE'RE SCREWED!


  96. Marine4ever,
    Ethnicity clearly had much to do with the results of the election.

    Right now, the GOP has itself tied up in knots while trying to analyze the results and plan future strategy. Typical post-election doings, of course.

    If ethnicity really is the biggest part of the ball of wax, there's nothing that either Party can do to change anyone's ethnicity.

    What can the GOP change or offer to pull in more diversity?

  97. Give away more free phones, more pot for every chicken (not a chicken in every pot... that's MORE pot) and free flat screen TVs?

    Just kidding... I think.

  98. This wasn't about ethnicity. It was about ideology. Or rather, Romney's inability to point to a political record that could be distinguishable from Obama's ideology in any meaningful way.

    Planned Parenthood providing $50 co-pay abortions subsidized by taxpayer money. Hundreds of marriage licenses issued to gay couples. Stoping deportation of an ilegal immigrant so she could keep her state government union job and pension. Shutting down a coal plant in the name of global warming.

    No, Obama has done very little to out-leftist Mitt Romney.

  99. Beamish,
    [This election] was about ideology.

    I disagree.

    Do you personally know any who voted for Obama on November 6? If so, ask them why they voted against Romney.

    Let me go back to 2008 for a minute. My 40-something cousin, who is married to an inactive Marine who owns his own electrical repair company and has a son in the USMC, voted against Palin. Palin! My cousin said, "I wanted to vote for John McCain. He's a veteran. But I couldn't vote for him because of Palin. I can't stand the sound of her voice! I disapprove of her parading around her retarded child."

    Now, how's that for responsible voting? Pfffft.

    I love my cousin. Very much. She has sense about many things.

    But the way she decides to vote is incomprehensible to me. She's not a diehard Dem and has voted across the voting spectrum. She does not have an entitlement mentality. And yet....

  100. Do you personally know any who voted for Obama on November 6? If so, ask them why they voted against Romney.

    I almost voted for Obama, but only because there was a certain zeitgeist to the idea that Romney might win that needed to be crushed. It was only that I didn't want to break my streak - I've never voted for a Democrat, ever, for any office - that I didn't. With Gary Johnson, I could vote against both of the far leftists running. What ever disappointment I feel about Obama being re-elected easily melts away when I look at the bright side and see that there's no President Romney of gay marriage and $50 co-pay tax subsidized abortions and "I agree with Obama's foreign policy except I'd give more money to Islamist states" infamy being held as a "conservative victory."

    America settled for far left instead of extreme left.

  101. Beamish,
    You correctly stated: there's no President Romney of gay marriage.

    Instead, we have a President Obama of gay marriage.

    At some point, if both you and I live long enough, we can reassess what this election outcome has actually wrought.

    Recently, a commenter at Infidel Bloggers Alliance stated as follows:

    Four more years, another 20 million on food stamps and you have such a vested interest in voting Democrat...

    To a certain extent, capitalism runs on confidence.

    Under Obama, there is no confidence for business.

    Under Romney, there would likely have been at least some confidence, perhaps enough confidence to stop that massive slide into even more dependency upon the government than we see right now.

    Now, you won't like the next part of my comment to you....

    Gay marriage is here to stay for the foreseeable future; it wouldn't have matter who was elected as POTUS.

    The above statement from me is not to be construed as my approval of gay marriage. I adamantly oppose gay marriage!

    So much of what I have adamantly opposed is now the reality or soon to be the reality.

    In my entire life, I've never felt as pessimistic about the future of America as I do now! As one of my friends in the UK says (about the West in general), "We've lost the plot!"

  102. To your comment, AOW, I would like to add one other thing -- "Amen."


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