One problem. While Obama was still a candidate, the irresponsible GOP severely crashed the economy. 'President' Obama had to enact a Stimulus (as many other Presidents have done) to save us from a depression. Plus it's a lie he has added $5T to the debt. It's less than what Bush added since Bush kept many things off the budget, like 2 stupid wars, his tax cuts and Medicaid Part D.
Obama put these back in the budget where they belong and the creepy right exploits this and lies about it. Like this video. Go to factcheck.org. The looney right just makes things up to fool the uninformed amongst them and re-writes history if you let them!
Liberalmann, Try to absorb what I am type in for this comment.
The problems with our budget and national debt can be laid at either Party's door.
But the fact is that, after over three years in office, Obama "owns" this ailing economy.
The same thing happened to Herbert Hoover, you know. Or maybe you don't know.
Furthermore, if we accept that the crash of the housing market has been a major contributor to our ailing domestic economy, just who opened up the door to giving subprime mortgages to those who could never survive ballooning rates?
If you continue to waste bandwidth that I pay for, I will delete your blithering and erroneous comments on site. I have informed all blog administrators here of this policy -- in effect as of this moment.
Get you own blog. Speak your mind over there.
You're so far off base that I find it difficult to believe that you can even access the web.
What budget are you talking about Liberalmann? The Democrats have not passed a budget since Obama began occuping te WH. It is so much easy to get the folks like you to follow whatever CNN says this week if there is no official record.
When comparing BUsh to Obama keep in mind bush was pResident for 8 years, 2 of which were years of a Democrat controlled COngress. Oddly those 2 years were the highest deficit years for the Country. Obama has racked up more debt in 3 1/2 years than all of BUshs 8 years.
The problem is indeed Democrats AND Republicans but the Nation has zero chance of turning things around while Obama occupies the WH.
As for the stupid wars at least Bush got a majority of Congress to engage in War, Obama just does whatever he wants
If you wish to make a cogent argument about anything, it is necessary that you first thoroughly research your topic; you know, so that you actually know what you’re talking about. Importantly, you have to check a number of resources, not simply those manufactured by organizations or individuals with a political agenda, such as the Soros run websites that you so conveniently copy and paste into comments. I know this is difficult for you to understand, but there are other points of view.
Also, stop suggesting that the political right edits Obama’s voice to make him appear incompetent; he doesn’t need the right to accomplish that.
Most people who comment here don’t know each other personally, but we’ve all formed similar conclusions about you. For example, some of us think you have to be one of the least educated people in the entire country. It makes us worry about the quality of education provided to young people in our public schools, paid for out of our tax dollars.
Some of us think you are moderately well educated, but suffer from progressive derangement syndrome, a serious mental ailment that result from severe brain washing in public schools and at home by idiot parents. This may demand professional attention, and we urge you to seek it. You can get psychological counseling at no cost to you, thanks to your communist president and the communists in Congress. We used to call these people Democrats, but they are far worse than that, now.
It is also possible that you ingest designer or homemade drugs, although there is no evidence that you’re taking the mind-expanding variety. You might want to check those out.
Finally, if you are not on drugs, not a mental retard, moderately well educated, but confused, then here is something you can do: stop making an ass of yourself. Really, stop it. Have some self-respect.
I pointed out the truth and never suggested Obama didn't own the economy. But the fact remains is that Bush crashed it and crashed it good and we'd be much farther along in recovery had the GOP not voted against all of Obama's measures, including jobs bill since the stimulus.
The fact also remains that Obama DID save us from a depression and it will take years to recover fully-if the GOP stops making the average American suffer while they play political games with our lives.
Blogginator said:"When comparing BUsh to Obama keep in mind bush was pResident for 8 years, 2 of which were years of a Democrat controlled COngress. Oddly those 2 years were the highest deficit years for the Country. Obama has racked up more debt in 3 1/2 years than all of BUshs 8 years."
Are you lying or do you seriously not know that the Dems never had a filibuster-proof majority? Are you seriously denying Bush crashed our economy?
Ezra Klein (born May 9, 1984) is a liberal blogger, and a columnist for The Washington Post, Bloomberg, and a contributor to MSNBC. He was formerly an associate editor of The American Prospect political magazine and a political blogger at the same publication.
Now beyond the fact that Klein is writing with a pronounced liberal perspective, he is also full of dookie. He said in his column, “Obama’s major expenses were temporary—the stimulus is over now.” That should make the 8.1% white unemployed, the 16.2% black unemployed, and the 11.6% Hispanic unemployed so excited they’ll wet themselves. Yep … Obama is doing a GREAT job and I think it’s almost time for another vacation at the taxpayer’s expense.
I wonder if Klein knows Bush the Younger started the stimulus; another moron. I only wonder this because he is, after all, a liberal.
Now, while the stimulus may be “over” (owing to the fact that the American people are fed up with government spending), we can kiss those “loans” goodbye. How much did GM receive as it began to relocate 75% of its operations to China? Please don’t tell me GM paid it all back. That would make you a liar. GM repaid $6.7 billion of the $49.5 billion borrowed from the American taxpayer, and they did it from the $13.6 billion working capital fund set up by the Obama administration. Back in the old days, we used to call this a shell game.
Speaking of hypocrites, I wonder if GE will ever pay corporate taxes again. I only mention this because you liberal pukes hate rich people and I presume that includes Obama’s butt buddy, Jeffrey Immelt—who is also one of Obama’s Czars.
But heck, let’s be fair about this. Did the stimulus package lower the unemployment rate? Yes, it did … in the government sector. It helped to hire government employees who will be unemployed again as soon as the stimulus money runs out. What a fantastic plan, eh? It almost makes one think that Obama is a politician who likes to kick the can down the road while he screws the private sector—which is what he promised to do in 2008. You know the whole “fundamental change” to America gig.
Finally, let me congratulate you on an excellent use of independent resources.
Liberalmann, The fact also remains that Obama DID save us from a depression...
Not yet, he hasn't. And it isn't only conservatives saying so. See THIS from Paul Krugman (video from CNN). Of course, Krugman being Krugman has a Leftist solution: Spend, spend, spend -- which means borrow, tax, or print money. Even so, he insists that we are in the second Great Depression.
Surely, you are aware that just recently three cities in the United States have gone bankrupt: Stockton, CA; San Bernardino, CA; and Mammoth Lakes, CA. According to THIS (AP, July 11, 2012):
As recently as last month, no city in California had opted for bankruptcy since 2008, and no U.S. city of more than 200,000 people had ever chosen bankruptcy....
What happens in California typically takes less than 5 years to spread across the whole nation.
President's do not own economies per se. All a President (with Congress) is make matters worse. Presidents can improve an economy only by easing government involvement in the economy.
Secondly you did not address the point. Have the Democrats submitted and approved a Budget since taking office? Let me answer for you NO
Why, so they can continue to spin lies and hatred causing the simple minded to follow them with whatever gargabe comes from their pieholes.
As for statistics, I believe it was Obama and Biden that annouced the Summer of Recovery about 3 years ago because statistically the recession had come to an end. This does not mean I endorse the stimulus Bush Jr approved but the fact is this is Obama's and the Democrat's mess as they attempt to move our economy into socialism as per the methods of liberal fascism.
For historical reference see HIlter's take over of Germany's economy and government.
On a final note, I can not debate such delusional opinions so I pray for you that you will come to understand the folly of your statements before we reach the point where the economic collapse is more tangible and not just statistical. In other words, hold on to your hat when the stock really starts to go and it will. Probably when the folks propping it up for Obama's benefit realize he isnt going to win and/or Obama and co stop using QEs to push phoney money into the economy creating afalse economic picture. A picture companies are not responding to because it is as real as a Hollywood movie...
For historical reference see Greece --people eating out of garbage cans.
Or we can believe the make believe world of Liberalmann........
President's do not own economies per se. All a President (with Congress) is make matters worse. Presidents can improve an economy only by easing government involvement in the economy.
Secondly you did not address the point. Have the Democrats submitted and approved a Budget since taking office? Let me answer for you NO
Why, so they can continue to spin lies and hatred causing the simple minded to follow them with whatever gargabe comes from their pieholes.
As for statistics, I believe it was Obama and Biden that annouced the Summer of Recovery about 3 years ago because statistically the recession had come to an end. This does not mean I endorse the stimulus Bush Jr approved but the fact is this is Obama's and the Democrat's mess as they attempt to move our economy into socialism as per the methods of liberal fascism.
For historical reference see HIlter's take over of Germany's economy and government.
On a final note, I can not debate such delusional opinions so I pray for you that you will come to understand the folly of your statements before we reach the point where the economic collapse is more tangible and not just statistical. In other words, hold on to your hat when the stock really starts to go and it will. Probably when the folks propping it up for Obama's benefit realize he isnt going to win and/or Obama and co stop using QEs to push phoney money into the economy creating afalse economic picture. A picture companies are not responding to because it is as real as a Hollywood movie...
For historical reference see Greece --people eating out of garbage cans.
Or we can believe the make believe world of Liberalmann........
It is a cold hard FACT...Barry Hussein has added more debt than any other US President in history...what part of that don't ya get Liberalmannturd ? And i shudder to think what will happen if the S of a B is re- elected and has another 4 years to rack even more up !
He has to go...he has to be defeated in November...our very survival as a country depends on it.
I'm petty sure obama doesn't give a rats ass about America, his main aim is to socialize you and make you just like every other useless socialist country in the world.
Just thinking about this article. About it it might be good to remember the words of the former President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, when he said "There can be no fify-fifty Americaniam in this country. There is room here for only 100 percent Americaniam, only for those who are Americans and nothing else."
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One problem. While Obama was still a candidate, the irresponsible GOP severely crashed the economy. 'President' Obama had to enact a Stimulus (as many other Presidents have done) to save us from a depression. Plus it's a lie he has added $5T to the debt. It's less than what Bush added since Bush kept many things off the budget, like 2 stupid wars, his tax cuts and Medicaid Part D.
ReplyDeleteObama put these back in the budget where they belong and the creepy right exploits this and lies about it. Like this video. Go to factcheck.org. The looney right just makes things up to fool the uninformed amongst them and re-writes history if you let them!
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/
Liberalmann,
ReplyDeleteTry to absorb what I am type in for this comment.
The problems with our budget and national debt can be laid at either Party's door.
But the fact is that, after over three years in office, Obama "owns" this ailing economy.
The same thing happened to Herbert Hoover, you know. Or maybe you don't know.
Furthermore, if we accept that the crash of the housing market has been a major contributor to our ailing domestic economy, just who opened up the door to giving subprime mortgages to those who could never survive ballooning rates?
Try THIS on for size.
And THIS.
Now, shut up.
If you continue to waste bandwidth that I pay for, I will delete your blithering and erroneous comments on site. I have informed all blog administrators here of this policy -- in effect as of this moment.
Get you own blog. Speak your mind over there.
You're so far off base that I find it difficult to believe that you can even access the web.
What budget are you talking about Liberalmann? The Democrats have not passed a budget since Obama began occuping te WH. It is so much easy to get the folks like you to follow whatever CNN says this week if there is no official record.
ReplyDeleteWhen comparing BUsh to Obama keep in mind bush was pResident for 8 years, 2 of which were years of a Democrat controlled COngress. Oddly those 2 years were the highest deficit years for the Country. Obama has racked up more debt in 3 1/2 years than all of BUshs 8 years.
The problem is indeed Democrats AND Republicans but the Nation has zero chance of turning things around while Obama occupies the WH.
As for the stupid wars at least Bush got a majority of Congress to engage in War, Obama just does whatever he wants
Only Americans are expected to be patriotic.
ReplyDeleteLiberalman:
ReplyDeleteIf you wish to make a cogent argument about anything, it is necessary that you first thoroughly research your topic; you know, so that you actually know what you’re talking about. Importantly, you have to check a number of resources, not simply those manufactured by organizations or individuals with a political agenda, such as the Soros run websites that you so conveniently copy and paste into comments. I know this is difficult for you to understand, but there are other points of view.
Also, stop suggesting that the political right edits Obama’s voice to make him appear incompetent; he doesn’t need the right to accomplish that.
Most people who comment here don’t know each other personally, but we’ve all formed similar conclusions about you. For example, some of us think you have to be one of the least educated people in the entire country. It makes us worry about the quality of education provided to young people in our public schools, paid for out of our tax dollars.
Some of us think you are moderately well educated, but suffer from progressive derangement syndrome, a serious mental ailment that result from severe brain washing in public schools and at home by idiot parents. This may demand professional attention, and we urge you to seek it. You can get psychological counseling at no cost to you, thanks to your communist president and the communists in Congress. We used to call these people Democrats, but they are far worse than that, now.
It is also possible that you ingest designer or homemade drugs, although there is no evidence that you’re taking the mind-expanding variety. You might want to check those out.
Finally, if you are not on drugs, not a mental retard, moderately well educated, but confused, then here is something you can do: stop making an ass of yourself. Really, stop it. Have some self-respect.
~Louie
Sadly, any of us with more than two brain cells to rub together are not shocked in the slightest by this video.
ReplyDeleteThose on the left are willfully blind, or flat stupid, as demonstrated above.
*sigh*
I pointed out the truth and never suggested Obama didn't own the economy. But the fact remains is that Bush crashed it and crashed it good and we'd be much farther along in recovery had the GOP not voted against all of Obama's measures, including jobs bill since the stimulus.
ReplyDeleteThe fact also remains that Obama DID save us from a depression and it will take years to recover fully-if the GOP stops making the average American suffer while they play political games with our lives.
Blogginator said:"When comparing BUsh to Obama keep in mind bush was pResident for 8 years, 2 of which were years of a Democrat controlled COngress. Oddly those 2 years were the highest deficit years for the Country. Obama has racked up more debt in 3 1/2 years than all of BUshs 8 years."
ReplyDeleteAre you lying or do you seriously not know that the Dems never had a filibuster-proof majority? Are you seriously denying Bush crashed our economy?
And no, Obama has NOT racked up more debt.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/obamas-and-bushs-effect-on-the-deficit-in-one-graph/2011/07/25/gIQAELOrYI_blog.html
Ezra Klein (born May 9, 1984) is a liberal blogger, and a columnist for The Washington Post, Bloomberg, and a contributor to MSNBC. He was formerly an associate editor of The American Prospect political magazine and a political blogger at the same publication.
ReplyDeleteNow beyond the fact that Klein is writing with a pronounced liberal perspective, he is also full of dookie. He said in his column, “Obama’s major expenses were temporary—the stimulus is over now.” That should make the 8.1% white unemployed, the 16.2% black unemployed, and the 11.6% Hispanic unemployed so excited they’ll wet themselves. Yep … Obama is doing a GREAT job and I think it’s almost time for another vacation at the taxpayer’s expense.
I wonder if Klein knows Bush the Younger started the stimulus; another moron. I only wonder this because he is, after all, a liberal.
Now, while the stimulus may be “over” (owing to the fact that the American people are fed up with government spending), we can kiss those “loans” goodbye. How much did GM receive as it began to relocate 75% of its operations to China? Please don’t tell me GM paid it all back. That would make you a liar. GM repaid $6.7 billion of the $49.5 billion borrowed from the American taxpayer, and they did it from the $13.6 billion working capital fund set up by the Obama administration. Back in the old days, we used to call this a shell game.
Speaking of hypocrites, I wonder if GE will ever pay corporate taxes again. I only mention this because you liberal pukes hate rich people and I presume that includes Obama’s butt buddy, Jeffrey Immelt—who is also one of Obama’s Czars.
But heck, let’s be fair about this. Did the stimulus package lower the unemployment rate? Yes, it did … in the government sector. It helped to hire government employees who will be unemployed again as soon as the stimulus money runs out. What a fantastic plan, eh? It almost makes one think that Obama is a politician who likes to kick the can down the road while he screws the private sector—which is what he promised to do in 2008. You know the whole “fundamental change” to America gig.
Finally, let me congratulate you on an excellent use of independent resources.
~Louie
Liberalmann,
ReplyDeleteThe fact also remains that Obama DID save us from a depression...
Not yet, he hasn't. And it isn't only conservatives saying so. See THIS from Paul Krugman (video from CNN). Of course, Krugman being Krugman has a Leftist solution: Spend, spend, spend -- which means borrow, tax, or print money. Even so, he insists that we are in the second Great Depression.
Surely, you are aware that just recently three cities in the United States have gone bankrupt: Stockton, CA; San Bernardino, CA; and Mammoth Lakes, CA. According to THIS (AP, July 11, 2012):
As recently as last month, no city in California had opted for bankruptcy since 2008, and no U.S. city of more than 200,000 people had ever chosen bankruptcy....
What happens in California typically takes less than 5 years to spread across the whole nation.
Declaration from yet another economist that we are in an economic depression (April 2012):
ReplyDeleteThe world is in a state of “late Great Depression,” well-known economist and author Robert Shiller told CNBC Monday.
The world is in a state of “late Great Depression,” well-known economist and author Robert Shiller told CNBC Monday....
Please note the sources that I am using in this comment and the previous one. Mainstream media!
President's do not own economies per se. All a President (with Congress) is make matters worse. Presidents can improve an economy only by easing government involvement in the economy.
ReplyDeleteSecondly you did not address the point. Have the Democrats submitted and approved a Budget since taking office? Let me answer for you NO
Why, so they can continue to spin lies and hatred causing the simple minded to follow them with whatever gargabe comes from their pieholes.
As for statistics, I believe it was Obama and Biden that annouced the Summer of Recovery about 3 years ago because statistically the recession had come to an end. This does not mean I endorse the stimulus Bush Jr approved but the fact is this is Obama's and the Democrat's mess as they attempt to move our economy into socialism as per the methods of liberal fascism.
For historical reference see HIlter's take over of Germany's economy and government.
On a final note, I can not debate such delusional opinions so I pray for you that you will come to understand the folly of your statements before we reach the point where the economic collapse is more tangible and not just statistical. In other words, hold on to your hat when the stock really starts to go and it will. Probably when the folks propping it up for Obama's benefit realize he isnt going to win and/or Obama and co stop using QEs to push phoney money into the economy creating afalse economic picture. A picture companies are not responding to because it is as real as a Hollywood movie...
For historical reference see Greece --people eating out of garbage cans.
Or we can believe the make believe world of Liberalmann........
President's do not own economies per se. All a President (with Congress) is make matters worse. Presidents can improve an economy only by easing government involvement in the economy.
ReplyDeleteSecondly you did not address the point. Have the Democrats submitted and approved a Budget since taking office? Let me answer for you NO
Why, so they can continue to spin lies and hatred causing the simple minded to follow them with whatever gargabe comes from their pieholes.
As for statistics, I believe it was Obama and Biden that annouced the Summer of Recovery about 3 years ago because statistically the recession had come to an end. This does not mean I endorse the stimulus Bush Jr approved but the fact is this is Obama's and the Democrat's mess as they attempt to move our economy into socialism as per the methods of liberal fascism.
For historical reference see HIlter's take over of Germany's economy and government.
On a final note, I can not debate such delusional opinions so I pray for you that you will come to understand the folly of your statements before we reach the point where the economic collapse is more tangible and not just statistical. In other words, hold on to your hat when the stock really starts to go and it will. Probably when the folks propping it up for Obama's benefit realize he isnt going to win and/or Obama and co stop using QEs to push phoney money into the economy creating afalse economic picture. A picture companies are not responding to because it is as real as a Hollywood movie...
For historical reference see Greece --people eating out of garbage cans.
Or we can believe the make believe world of Liberalmann........
It is a cold hard FACT...Barry Hussein has added more debt than any other US President in history...what part of that don't ya get Liberalmannturd ? And i shudder to think what will happen if the S of a B is re- elected and has another 4 years to rack even more up !
ReplyDeleteHe has to go...he has to be defeated in November...our very survival as a country depends on it.
Good Job AOW!
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I'm petty sure obama doesn't give a rats ass about America, his main aim is to socialize you and make you just like every other useless socialist country in the world.
ReplyDeleteJust thinking about this article. About it it might be good to remember the words of the former President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, when he said
ReplyDelete"There can be no fify-fifty Americaniam in this country. There is room here for only 100 percent Americaniam, only for those who are Americans and nothing else."
Walter,
ReplyDeleteThank you for leaving that appropriate citation! I appreciate it.