Islamic terrorism in the City of Lights.
Multiple sites attacked.
Hostages held and being murdered one by one in Bataclan, the concert hall.
National borders closed.
France in a state of national emergency.
Fox News is reporting that a suspect arrested has told the police, "I am from ISIS." He has also said that he is from Syria and is on a mission for ISIS. This is the only arrest so far reported.
More coverage at France 24 and BBC News.
ADDENDUM
Paris terror attacks timeline: What happened where and when on night of terror and confusion in French capital.
Obviously Dominique DeVillepin needs to exhaust diplomatic efforts.
ReplyDeleteMerkel put out the welcome mat. I can't wait to see when Germany blows next.
ReplyDeleteFrance is just the first domino.
Islam - Thy Name is Destruction.
Anyone who would willingly attend a "concert" by a band calling itself Eagles of Death Metal deserves whatever evil may come his way.
ReplyDeleteFT,
DeleteNot deserving of the evil, IMO.
BUT
The name of the band is prophetic.
BTW, the band is an American band from California. No word yet as to the fate of any of the band members.
There are 100 mostly young people dead.....nobody deserves this. Nobody.
DeleteI keep agreeing with Ducky. Is there something wrong with me?
DeleteI haven't been in the blogosphere for awhile now and I don't know much about the one who calls himself Free Thinker. But I will note that on this one occasion, I have to say to everyone, mark down this date because I agree with Ducky.
DeleteIt may not happen again for several years, but it just did. I am a proponent of free speech, but NEVER would I make a sick joke out of it, like this.
Eagles of Death Metal is what it is.... A campy band that does death metal covers of Eagles songs. The concept alone is ludicrous enough to draw my curiosity lol
DeleteBeamish,
DeleteEagles songs?
I love the Eagles, but am not at all a fan of death metal,
Probably born in the alley at the strange intersection of Country / Western and punk rock. ;)
DeleteThat's what's so cool about music unchained from the "industry."
DeleteThere are millions of genres and niches out there, and that's the way it should be. Art is not made to be put in a box.
I would qualify EoDM as a,"novelty" band... Trying to have more fun than fans or fame.
Delete"Nobody deserves this –– nobody."
DeleteTry to look at it tis way, Z. If those 100 mostly young people hadn't been avid, devoted fans of Cultural Pollution and Societal Degeneration, –– which is EXACTLY what that kind of "music" IS ––, they would still be alive.
It is the NIHILISM and pervasive MOB PSYCHOLOGY engendered and fostered largely by the wretched vulgar excesses of ROCK 'n ROLL and it's ever more hideous derivatives that have overtaken the West, and have paved the way, rolled out the red carpet and opened to door to the kind of barbaric aggression and horror that is overtaking us as we pound our little keyboards.
Satan works in unbelievably subtle, crafty ways. He's often called the Great Deceiver, but more than that he is also the Great SEDUCER. He has an uncanny knack for making utter vileness appear ATTRACTIVE and DESIRABLE to young, unformed minds –– and to the perennially adolescent.
FT,
DeleteWe're never going to achieve honest dialogue as long as you're resistant to admitting you're a doddering imbecile.
The concert was attacked because it was populated, regardless of why it was populated. A closed forum, controllable exits, a death trap.
That the place is often used as a meeting venue for Jewish organizations could play into why it was chosen, but no matter. It was chosen because it it could be made an inescapable death trap. Period. Music had nothing to do with it.
Beamish,
DeleteFT isn't an imbecile. I don't agree with his comment referring to the attack as something those concert goers deserved and so stated.
I do agree with your statement as to the kind of music not being the reason Bataclan was attacked. In fact, the common factor among the Paris sites attacked is that all we packed houses and, likely, easy to scout out in advance -- as well as being in proximate locations.
Comment I spotted just now at another blog:
ReplyDeleteBBC World reports "unconfirmed" social media posts suggest retaliation against terrorists aimed at migrant camp in Calais which is on fire now.
It's been debunked.
DeleteAt least for now.
Debunked hy whom, Canardo –– The Daily KOS? William Rivers of Spitt? The Nation? Joe Conason? Ellen Ratner? Katrina Vanden Heuvel? The New York Times? Al Jazeera?
DeleteThe timing is probably in response to the death of "Jihad John" with a carload of assorted "jihadis" and the loss of Sinjar to the kurds.
ReplyDeleteTheir territory is shrinking.
In Europe you are likely to see the brownshirts coming to power. Doesn't seem possible with the enormity of this attack that they can lose.
If France, Britain, America and Russia (maybe more cooperative after the aircraft downing) can cooperate it could cripple ISIS but there is going to be a cost. The vigilantes will be out.
It should work to the fringe right's advantage in the US. Anyone who isn't barking for deportation and a wall is in trouble (tough crap Rubio).
It's just too late to remind ourselves that we should never have whacked that hornet's nest.
Duck,
DeleteThe timing is probably in response to the death of "Jihad John"
I doubt that. These attacks were too well coordinated and too well armed to be put together so fast.
Forget that hornet's nest. The West has to deal with World War M as it is now.
But Ducky, can you see how marginalizing anyone who doesn't cowtow to the one-world EU project has stoked "fringe right?" There is no sensible middle ground.
DeleteCurrent ruling parties have almost killed Europe, time for some people made of sterner stuff to take over. The Eastern Europeans have it right: build the fences and refuse to be taken over by people who hate you, who hate your culture, and who will never assimilate.
It's a rough world out there. We can always build more refuge camps in the ME. I have little sympathy for military-aged young men escaping a collapsing culture their families' bigotry and bloodlust helped destroy.
I say turn those men around and tell them to hitch up their britches and fix their societies or die trying. How else will anything change over there?
Latest body count =140.
ReplyDeleteThe number keeps climbing, of course.
Up to 158 according to Sky News
Delete"In Europe you are likely to see the brownshirts coming to power."
ReplyDeleteBecause anyone who stands up for their own rights, their own culture, or their own country is obviously a fascist.
Godwin is quick on the draw tonight, isn't he?
Here's my prediction:
Delete1. Liberal apologists will bend over and take it up the ...
2. The President will voice some meaningless platitudes about how we're all in this together, then import 10,000 or so potential jihadists.
3. When the Caliphate is established, liberals will be the first to go.
I don't think you're going to learn anything, you're going to continue to let the barbarians through the gates of civilization.
My money's on Finn...
DeleteYour money's been a big winner so far, hasn't it.
DeleteFinny's 1&2 have already come true. We're still waiting for your #1.
DeleteErratum - Finny's #3 is already in it's incipient stages.
Deletebeamish,
DeleteYou forgot to add in all the above accompanies by vapid "anti-hate" blathering, sappy songs sung in honor of a nonexistent international solidarity and brotherhood, weepy candlelight vigils and interminable, meaningless "We Stand With..." bumberstickerism.
Why not just immolate the entire west upon a giant pile of teddy bears?
Glitter, Silverfiddle. "Safe zones" filled with jazz hands and peacenik occupations.
DeleteAs in John Lennon's "Imagine" being played on a mobile piano with a peace symbol painted on it? Rolling Stone Magazine seems to have loved that "outpouring." Sheesh.
DeleteJust this morning on Good Morning America in regards to ISIS:
ReplyDelete“I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama responded. “What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them."
Article V of the NATO Charter: An attack on one is an attack on all!
I told a friend tonight "Obama actually used the term TERRORISM for the Paris nightmare" My friend immediately subdued me "but he didn't say ISLAMIST TERRORISM". true...I had my hopes up that he was finally awake.
DeleteZ,
DeleteI expect Obama to continue the lie: "nothing to do with Islam."
Let's not be hasty. This is France. We need more paperwork.
ReplyDelete:)
DeleteAOW; Funny you'd say "New model for Jihad"in your post because I was thinking today that THIS is the 'second 9/11"...because this is a new terror....that one hit buildings and killed many.
ReplyDeleteThis one is going to be far, far worse....this could happen at anybody's nearby restaurant or theater or sports arena. Maybe tomorrow.
This is new; this is the 2nd Islamist Jihad Terror Model.
One we simply cannot fight.
There is nothing we can do...we will be like ants scurrying around while the big cat swats at us....pushing US around, scaring US, knowing we can do absolutely nothing because they're everywhere.
Makes me laugh when I hear Wolf Blitzer raving about how SO MUCH PLANNING MUST HAVE GONE INTO THE ATTACKS TO COORDINATE THE TIMING! He apparently hasn't heard of cell phones...
Ten guys, suicide vests, one call "Everybody ready? Attack.... see you in Islamic Heaven"
Wow, Wolf....no wonder you're a big news reader for CNN.
Following the Charlie Hebdo massacre earlier this year world leaders, with the exception of Obama, lead a march of millions in Paris. But then, nothing happened. Now, it's impossible to believe that France will not respond. Perhaps in a joint action with other nations like Russia who have also been targeted.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Obama continues to do nothing but talk. I'm surprised he didn't blame a You Tube video. Failure to pay attention to Iraq when ISIS was just getting started, then pinprick bombing and failure to arm the Kurds. It seems he is engaged in a strategy that is DESIGNED TO FAIL!
My heart goes out to the French in the midst of this horror and the grief that follows. We should stand with them in FACT as well as deeds. The world can't wait for leadership to address this threat. If there is a danger of "Brownshirts" as Ducky suggests, it will be because idiots like Obama have been so blind to the danger.
Mike "idiots like Obama have been so blind to the danger."
DeleteBecause they've been INEFFECTIVE..you're right.
Mike, what would YOU do? How would you address this now?
There has been a report that one of the barbarians was a French citizen known to police.
DeleteNow, how many times have we heard that? So just what constitutes sufficient cause to take someone in?
I will maintain that asking those questions makes more sense than having people with no more idea than a bag of rocks about how to fight a counter insurgency muse about how much they hate Obama.
By the way, ISIS territory has been shrinking, not expanding.
ISIS territory has been shrinking
DeleteOffical territory? Or unofficial territory (like Paris)?
Joe,
DeleteThe caliphatists are looking to reclaim what they perceive as lost territory and to punish any and all who are possibly interfering with the Islamic State's caliphate.
Duck,
DeleteMaintain whatever fantasy you like -- right up to the moment that you or one of your beloveds is slaughtered or maimed.
I love the "French Citizen" BS...they're using the term FRENCH NATIONAL.....a dead giveway the person is Arab or African and first or second generation and muslim. Reports in the concert hall say that two were speaking perfect French.
DeleteNEWS: That doesn't mean they're FRENCH. Or love France and suddenly switched.
Ducky, we'd better find what's sufficient cause because we're hearing this more and more...here, too....Charlie Hebdo's killers were taken in and released before killing 20.
Probably the only realistic way to help ourselves is, the minute we suspect them of jihadi activity, they're OUT. For good. Suspicion is enough. Period. "Ah, gee, that's cruel, Z!" Ya, what's crueler, sending someone home or losing more Americans, bloody on the street? What other thing can we do, realistically? NADA.
STop with the hate Obama BS........I admire him greatly...after all, he did remind us Friday that Isis is probably under control..back to JV? :0) No, I think y should keep up your love fest and naivite.... we'll continue to disparage a jerk.
Thanks.
I was wondering about that...I heard they did shut the Metro down, but NOT the airports and trains? How do you close borders without doing that? I have a feeling they will but that IS a HUGE undertaking...maybe it'll take time to coordinate all of that. OR they have REALLY tough requirements about checking all passengers, etc etc??
ReplyDeleteI don't usually squander opportunities to bash on New Algeria, I mean France, and tonight will be no different. Surely the French could wave bigger surrender flags.
ReplyDeleteYesterday morning, President Obama Doesn't Think ISIS Is 'Gaining Strength' (video).
ReplyDeletePresident Obama and Anus Mundi are identical twins.
DeleteJune 4, 2009: Obama's Cairo Speech
ReplyDeleteI have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world ...
That outreach certainly rings hollow now, doesn't it??
In the German media right now: arrest in Bavaria tied to Paris attack.
ReplyDeleteHollande has now officially stated: "We now know that this is the work of ISIS."
ReplyDeleteLet us remember that the United States is also in the cross hairs of the Islamic State.
ReplyDeleteThis new model for jihad is impossible to intercept 100% of the time.
DIDADIN!
DeleteISIS has now claimed responsibility for the jihad attacks in Paris.
ReplyDeleteContent alert!
ReplyDeleteThis is a paste!
It is however my original thought.
What CAN we do?
We can stop outsourcing our security.
No more gun free zones.
Want to be secure?
Buy a gun, learn to use it, and encourage the one next to you to do the same.
It's not 100%, but what in life is?
Don't like guns, or are afraid to use one?
Don't stop me from protecting me or you because of your fear of me having a gun when you fear the terrorist having one.
The Nuke the Middle East solution leaves operatives in the west.
Increasing State Security services limits our freedoms and protections (France is confiscating guns).
The solution is to stop outsourcing our security. Gun up. Be situationally aware. Your odds of surviving are greater. And their odds of surviving are lower.
Ed,
DeleteGun up. Be situationally aware.
Yes.
But many Americans -- myself included -- work in places which do not allow for packing.
The Nuke the Middle East solution leaves operatives in the west.
Our political leaders and even businesses, including institutions of learning, flung open the doors.
A friend of mine said years ago, "It's going to take one kind of fascism to combat Islamofascism." Was he right?
That's what I would hope to avoid.
DeleteFascism would confiscate or restrict (workplace, gun free zones) my right to self defence (and it is a right) saying that THEY would handle the problem.
"My" solution is to insource our protection and call for the restoration of our freedoms.
Two birds, one stone.
In the past few weeks, the Islamic State has pulled off two slaughters: the Russian jetliner and Paris.
ReplyDeleteWho is next? Germany, the UK, the United States -- not necessarily in that order.
FreeThinke:
ReplyDeleteYou posted this thought:
"Anyone who would willingly attend a "concert" by a band calling itself Eagles of Death Metal deserves whatever evil may come his way."
Let me note that I am grateful that you populate this blog. You teach me a few things along the way, and I enjoy your prose. But I choose to respectfully disagree with you.
I was at the Garland, Texas event on May 3rd and had to bear up under the barrage of nasty comments from one man at work who told me "You deserve it. You shouldn't have been there." He knew I was one of dozens of members of the press corps who had been invited to this private reception. Still, he mocked my freedom.
Did the individuals seated at the restaurants last night have the right to buy a meal? What about the individuals who wanted to attend a sports venue with their families? Vibrant commerce is a sign of societal health. The Death Eagles venue was a tributary of a larger financial stream in Paris.
Charlie Hebdo came for the common man last night. Seventy Americans are still missing. It is likely their bodies have being removed from the theater. The families will be notified but most likely they already know the outcome.
Islamic fanaticism must be brutally crushed and actively resisted.
* The French, because they were unarmed, sang the National Anthem. Raising a voice to give courage does not rise to the demands of the moment. Yes, firearms cannot be brought into a stadium. But in Texas, outside of a stadium, would stand ordinary citizens ready to hastily scramble a militia to render aid. We are a state which believes strongly in Constitutional right.
My thoughts and prayers are with the American families and members of our embassy staff in Paris as they prepare the notifications.
I'm sure that the comment was meant to be facetious and directed towards the cultural decline that "enables" a tolerance for multiculturalism.
DeleteIn other words, FT is a musical 'purist' who loves Western classical symphonies to the exclusion of music with lower 'standards' of orchastrational complexity. He often derides my musical taste, as my musical pallate is not nearly as discerning.
DeleteI agree with your reproach of that FreeThinke fellow's callous and boorish comment. I take issue, however, with your comparison of deliberate provocateurs in Texas expressing their right to poke sticks in the eyes of monsters with people in France participating in a benign, non-political event.
DeleteThank you, Joe. I am glad to see that at least ONE person still exists who understands that few-if-any hyperbolic, satiric remarks are meant to be taken literally.
Delete“Woe to the makers of literal translation, who by rendering every word weaken the meaning! It is, indeed, by doing so that we can say the letter kills and the spirit gives life.”
~ Voltaire (1694-1778)
I don't want to pile on, but I don't play with my food either.
DeleteSoon after FT was roundly condemned for blaming the victims of a terrorist attack for their deaths, his smug self-satisfaction was met with the droning hum of his computer's cooling fan not interrupting his non-life with a phone call from someone that gives a shit.
Beamish,
DeleteI'll thank you not to "pile on."
An organism can appear healthy but be riddled by disease on the inside. Time will tell...
ReplyDeleteIf not already riddled with disease, with 10,000 Syrians coming in and being "resettled" in the USA, it soon will be.
DeleteHark....I bring great tidings of good cheer on this somber occasion. ISIS is contained in the Big Easy. New Orleans has just received its first shipment of those poor refugees who want to be Americans, who want to assimilate into our society and work for a better life. When you stop to think about it, Goat's Head Gumbo and Lamb Jambalaya might not taste so bad after all.
ReplyDeleteThink of it as a cultural exchange, when you see the bawdy French Quarter evolve into the streets of Damascus. Let not your heart be troubled when you see the famous Arnaud's turned into Ahmed's House of Halal.
LA,
DeleteThe Big Easy will lose during that "cultural exchange."
"New Orleans has just received its first shipment of........ refugees"
DeleteFirst Katrina now this. I express my condolences to the 'Big Easy".
Sheesh.
ReplyDeleteHopefully he meant they must reign in their "own".
OK. here from February:
“ISIS is a radical Sunni Islamic group. They need to be defeated on the ground by a Sunni military force with air support from the United States,” Rubio said.
I'm not a Rubio fan, either
Ed,
ReplyDeleteI'm not anti-Rubio, nor am I pro-Rubio. That said, the statement he made a few minutes ago was simplistic on its face. Comfortable to believe -- but simplistic.
We should be doing what we can to get ISIS and Hezbollah fighting each other. ;)
ReplyDeleteHe's supposed to be such a great communicator.
ReplyDeleteOh well....
Rubio is showing himself to be the Junior Varsity.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree with Rubio more....better to have their own 'moderates' take them out. I don't see what's wrong with that. Educate me...........I'm willing to hear.
ReplyDeleteBeamish is right, too.
LA Sunset...good to see you around.
Z,
DeleteGood luck trying to identify who are moderates and who are Trojan Horses.
Besides that, many moderate Sunnis are willing to partner with ISIS on the qt so as to oust particular regimes.
Let us also remember how arming certain Iraqis and certain "free Syrian rebels" has worked out.
No matter what the West does, it's poking the hornet's nest of the Middle East. And why? Because those societies and Islam itself are, by definition, hornet's nests per se.
How I wish what I'm typing in here were not so! But I see no weight of evidence to cause me to change my position about Islam.
I believe the Sunnis DO know who's moderate amongst themselves...no, we can't know.
Delete"hornet's nest' is the best description of Islam's mess.....I told someone last night it's like the beehive's been jostled and they're coming after us. No doubt about it.
And what CAN WE DO?
AOW...the only solution I can think of is DEPORT and REVOKE PASSPORT the minute the slightest hint or rumor that someone's involved in jihadist activities....no questions, no second chances, just "you're gone....tough" That MIGHT keep them from it, and it MIGHT have kept the people who were being watched but were released from doing anything.
DeleteThe NYPD had a squad that infiltrated mosques and observed for years --- nothing.
DeleteI assume Europe has also infiltrated.
We should definitely deal with those that form an association with terrorists but "suspicious" is a little vague.
You're not even trying to suggest that no mosques around the world preach violence or jihad, right? They won't let the feds in, that's common knowledge.
DeleteI think "suspicious" is just going to have to do, Ducky. That might keep people from doing anything suspicious. We can only hope.
AOW:
ReplyDeleteIn Rubio's defense, Sunnis are trying to fight ISIS, but Obama's 'help' has been pathetic. Jordan, Egypt and Kurds in Syria and Iraq (all Sunnis) are up for the fight, but we haven't been supplying them enough ammo, material and logistical support.
Beamish has the right idea. If we still had real leaders with real advisors who actually understood foreign policy (Unlike Obama's Amateur Girl's Warlord Club), we would have had ISIS and the Hezbos fighting each other to the death right now.
SF,
ReplyDeletewe haven't been supplying them enough ammo, material and logistical support
IMO, those factors do not matter. Various factions run -- and sometimes taking the materiel with them.
Beamish,
ReplyDeleteWe should be doing what we can to get ISIS and Hezbollah fighting each other. ;)
I agree!
It's too late now.
From today's New York Times:
ReplyDeleteThe Islamic State claimed responsibility on Saturday for the catastrophic attacks in the French capital, calling them “the first of the storm”...
Figures: the Paris attacker with the Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in October.
ReplyDeleteI find it, indeed heartening the way that the Moslem Community turns-out, in mass, to decry these acts committed in the name of [their] religion. Their level of contrition is just amazing; isn't it! YEAH BABY!
ReplyDeleteHEY, now back to reality. These people are spooky, reluctant to assimilate into Western Society and, while such acts are carried out by what may be a small number, they are unpredictable as individuals and as a group. Any one of them can 'turn' at any given time.
OK, go ahead and trust them but trust them at YOUR OWN RISK! I think Trump is looking at the wrong group to expatriate.
Jon,
DeleteThe West refuses to accept how terrible the Islamic paradigm is now.
OK, go ahead and trust them but trust them at YOUR OWN RISK!
With you 100% on that!
France needs to bomb a Syrian refugee camp...
Delete...and claim responsibility for it
Carpe bombing, and save precision guided bombing to pick off people trying to bury the dead.
DeleteI agree, Beamish..as bad as that sounds to any good person, there's almost no choice but to retaliate BIG TIME. Make the refugees angry enough from having been bombed that THEY'll be turning in people who are jihadists.
DeleteBUT, most people don't think like I do; most of my bloggers think that'd only make the muslims more angry and fight against us harder.
I would not approve precision guided bombing for anybody burying dead, however...just wanted to make that clear.
DeleteHow can we win when they strive for the biggest collateral damage they can get, and we're afraid to cause it? NO WAY.
Beamish,
DeleteI know firsthand about losing a beloved family member to Islam.
'Nuff said.
We always hear that "hate is bad." That's bullshit. Hate is a valid human emotion that achieves positive results when acted upon, such as the utter destruction and removal of undesirable things, if someone has the muscle control to turn their other cheek to you, you haven't hated them enough.
DeleteAOW,
ReplyDeleteWhat? Are you seriously suggesting the Kurds (who have been fighting ISIS like heroic lions), the Egyptians and the Jordanians would "run" and "take the materiel with them?" Seriously?
I'm not talking about arming Obama's "good terrorists." I'm talking about arming US allies in the region who have already committed blood and treasure to the fight.
SF,
ReplyDeleteI think that it's possible some in those groups will indeed run and take the materiel with them because those groups are infiltrated, too.
If Westerners can be converted to ISIS, then why can't Kurds, Egyptians, and Jordanians?
I type this in with sorrow because I know several Kurds and like them very much.
The Prophet said, "War is deceit."
ReplyDeleteOn this subject see: FINAL THOUGHTS from Tomi Lohren
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrauM7yvco&feature=youtu.be
ReplyDeleteDIDADIN
DETAIN - INTERN - DISEMPOWER - AND- DEPORT - ISLAMANIACS - NOW
D-I-D-A-D-I-N!
Those who would be kind to the cruel are sure to be cruel to the kind."
"Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809)
DIDADIN!
I understand the sentiment, my friend, but I am dead-set against the detention, internment, disempowerment and deportation of law-abiding citizens.
DeleteThen you embrace SUICIDE and the EXTERMINATION of any possibility of a good life for your children, Silver. I am deeply sorry you fail to see the practical wisdom in DIDADIN.
DeleteI never have been, and never will be a "Death is Better than Dishonor" type, myself.
Islam is a CANCER in the corpus mundi. As such it must be subjected to radical surgery, lethal poison, high doses of deadly radiation, until it ceases to exist.
Fix Syria! Syria has been destroyed and won't be fixed any time soon.
ReplyDeleteTwo weeks ago Russians died in a terror attack. Now Parisians, Americans and a few others died in a terror attack. Who's next on the list? Germans? Spaniards? Americans?
ReplyDeleteMinus hyphenated designators, the terrorists share one common creed. Islam.
Prince,
DeleteISIS: “American Blood Is The Best And We Will Taste It Soon”
Duck,
ReplyDeleteFix Syria!
As if any Western power has ever fixed anything in the Middle East!
Pfffft.
Is this true?
ReplyDeleteWhile the taxpayer funded American Embassy in Paris refused entry/shelter six months pregnant American tourist fleeing terror in Paris ....Every Sikh Temple in Paris opened its doors to anyone seeking shelter during the attack.
ISIS: “American Blood Is The Best And We Will Taste It Soon”
ReplyDeleteISIS has a way of fulfilling their promises (threats).
Yes, but to date, no Kurd, Jordanian or Egyptian military units have defected. These are not Obama's "good terrorists," "Free Syrians" or whatever... These are proven, trusted allies.
ReplyDeleteSomebody's gotta do the fighting, and they are doing it. They could do more if we would arm the sufficiently.
To be clear, I'm wondering if the Sunni allies are less willing to do "our" work because of that Iran deal.
ReplyDeleteAOW,
ReplyDeleteShort answer: No. Those people live in a world of realpolitik. The Egyptians and Jordanians actively cooperate with Israel because their survival depends on it.
Much has been made of Kurdish-Turkish hatred. Do you know who the prosperous Iraqi Kurdistan's largest trading partner is? Turkey.
They make deals to stay alive over there, and the Kurds gave up active support of PKK to achieve economic stability and cooperation with Turkey.
They are are not going to refuse to fight because Uncle Sam made them mad. Their lives are at stake.
SF,
ReplyDelete[The Kurds] are are not going to refuse to fight because Uncle Sam made them mad
That's my take on the Kurds as well.
You know what? I think that what you've mentioned in our discussion of Sunni allies isn't going to happen anyway. Obama is too interested in kicking the can down the road and getting out of office without becoming involved in another war in the Middle East. He's guarding what he perceives as his legacy.
For any here who can stomach looking at it:
ReplyDeleteParis attack picture from inside Bataclan reveals aftermath of shooting
France is attacking ISIS territory as I write, never thought I'd see the day that France had more Balls than America does.
ReplyDeleteYou talk as if you think these are the first air strikes against ISIS.
DeleteUpvote for Ducky.
DeleteWhy didn't they just tweet out #BombISIS?
It would have been cheaper...
BREAKING!
ReplyDeleteFrance has dropped 20 bombs on Raqqa.
Certainly satisfying but I assume it was expected.
DeleteIf this was centrally planned by ISIL(seems certain) then they must have expected retaliation.
France needs to be ready for a response.
Ya, the typical liberal response..."Let's not strike back because they might get mad!" Retreat! Retreat! ISIS is after us...don't hurt THEM!!!
DeleteDucky, listen to yourself. Gad.
As you know, I'm one of the few who doesn't think all muslims want us dead, and every time ISIS hurts THEM, or we hurt them because of ISIS, I get hopeful that more and more will come forward and reveal any jihadist activity they know about, or just plain attack ISIS themselves... I'm tired of OUR being the courageous...it's time to see Muslims take their own in their hands.
DeleteYa, the typical liberal response..."Let's not strike back because they might get mad!" Retreat! Retreat! ISIS is after us...don't hurt THEM!!!
DeleteDucky, listen to yourself. Gad.
Hey, sweetie, when did I say there shouldn't be a bombing run?
DeleteThere have been air strikes for some time and ISIS has lost considerable territory recently.
I'm surprised you don't know that. Must not be reporting on the war on Faux Snooze.
Z,
Deleteit's time to see Muslims take their own in their hands
I'm not holding my breath as I wait to see that happen. And wait. And wait.
Z,
Delete."Let's not strike back because they might get mad!"
That's the way the comment sounded to me, too.
It seems to me that the West has been doing that for a long time: "Don't offend Muslims," which has an underlying implication of "If we lay low, maybe they won't hurt us." NOT WORKING!
Z,
DeleteI'm one of the few who doesn't think all muslims want us dead
I don't believe that all are after us.
That said, we have this problem:
Paris attack suspect described as ‘friendly, polite neighbour’.
Won't nuking Syria affect Israel?
ReplyDeleteThe White House occupant refuses to even identify Islamic terrorism choosing to call it anything but. Second he plays an appeasement game using as little military power as possible with little or no airstrikes and many of the sorties coming back with their full armament still on board. He has no intention of doing anything against the ISIS threat and by his disgusting deal is assisting Iran with a nuclear weapon while allowing the full collapse of the Middle East surrendering it to Putin who is partnering with Iran for a Middle East take over using it as the reconstituting of the Soviet Union. ISIS exists because of his weakness and now he wants to flood the US with refugees who will be nothing more than a free access for ISIS to enter the US. In answer to your last sentence in this excellent post, with Obama at the helm we will wait until the death toll mounts and what happened in France takes place in DC, NYC, Chicago or LA and then he'll claim it was not ISIS because he has ISIS contained according to him and Americans will die!
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ReplyDeleteFT isn't an imbecile.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Upon taking the opportunity to respond to his detractors, FT doubled down on blaming the concert goers and their choice of entertainment for their deaths.
If FT does not fully qualify for the textbook definition of imbecilic, nobody does.
Beamish,
DeleteAs I re-read FT's comments, I think that he lays the blame on the type of music -- blame in that FT believes that type of music is culturally corrupt and, by extension, corrupts the listeners.
Do I agree with FT's music philosophy? Not fully.
My tastes in music are quite eclectic as you, as my long time cyber buddy, must know.
Do I believe that the concert goers and the type of music concert they attended were responsible for their deaths? Absolutely not! Although, I must say, that ISIS has deemed music, alcohol, and possibly even soccer as halal. As I understand the types of sites attacks, they involved those factors (but not as the primary motive).
Well, I don't keep stats, but I've read enough of FT's repertoire to reasonably assume it is still not as frequently occurring as scent-free dog excrement that FT will post something that isn't stupid. I don't have anything personal against the guy even though it is laughably doubtful that he means well.
DeleteWe can all just sigh in relief that FT merely shares ISIS' hatred of rock music and joy at the destruction of concert goers, but likely won't go out and shoot them himself.
Effective bombing runs are a start.
ReplyDeleteBut ISIS is a multi-headed beast with both heads and tentacles among most Western nations.
It won't be long before each of us personally knows someone killed or maimed by Islamic terrorists.
I agree with AOW. Primary concern? Importation of threat. Baton Rouge just received their first allotment.
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