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Friday, September 26, 2014

A Beheading In Oklahoma

Islam is the trigger.  

And here in America now — in the 21st Century.

From AOL.com:
Oklahoma man beheaded female co-worker and stabbed another while reportedly shouting Islamic phrases

...Alton Nolen, 30, killed Colleen Hufford, 54, at the Vaughan Foods processing plant before an off-duty reserve Oklahoma County Deputy that works for the company shot him, Moore police said during a Friday morning media briefing, according to KWTV.

He also stabbed Tracy Johnson, 43, authorities said. She is in critical condition but expected to recover from her injuries.

The deputy has been identified by the station as Mark Vaughan, the company's chief operating officer. Vaughan shot him multiple times with a rifle, sources told KFOR.

Police said Nolen had recently been terminated from his job on the company's production line and began the rampage by ramming at least one vehicle in the parking lot before entering the building.

Nolen was taken to a nearby hospital and is expected to recover, cops said. He was in the process of converting to Islam, KFOR reported.

Federal agents with the FBI have been called in after it was reported Nolen was shouting Islamic phrases during the attack and previously tried to also convert co-workers to Islam, KWTV reported.

Nolen has multiple tattoos on his torso including one that says "as-salaamu ataikum," a common Arabic greeting, according to Oklahoma Department of Corrections records. He also has praying hands tattooed on his body....
More at the above link.

We shouldn't really be surprised or shocked, however.

Islam is as Islam does.

88 comments:

  1. AOW,
    We have discussed this: beheadings on U.S. soil committed by Muslims. It is here.

    What can we do to protect ourselves?

    And how does the company notify the children of the woman who was beheaded as to the nature of how she died?

    "Yes, Ma'am. pause How did your mother die? ,,,, pause.... She was beheaded.... pause.... Yes, she was beheaded...."

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  2. Some years ago, I read that, sooner or later if one lives long enough, one will personally know someone who was seriously injured in or died in an automobile accident.

    Now, in the 21st Century Dark Age, sooner or later each of us will personally know someone who was beheaded by an Islamomaniac. This wouldn't be inevitable -- except for our feckless leaders, feckless media, and feckless academicians.

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  3. DIDADIN

    DETAIN - INTERN - DISEMPOWER - AND- DEPORT - ISLAMANIACS - NOW

    D-I-D-A-D-I-N!

    Those who would be kind to the cruel are sure to be cruel to the kind."


    "Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."

    ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809)

    DIDADIN!

    ___________________________

    DIDADIN

    Detain
    Intern
    Disempower
    And
    Deport
    Islamaniacs
    Now

    D-I-D-A-D-I-N!

    Those who would be kind to the cruel are sure to be cruel to the kind."


    "Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."

    ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809)

    DIDADIN!

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    1. 3.1.11 - The rules and definitions of prudence can rarely be exact; never universal. I do not deny that in small truckling states a timely compromise with power has often been the means, and the only means, of drawling out their puny existence. But a great state is too much envied, too much dreaded, to find safety in humiliation. To be secure, it must be respected. Power, and eminence, and consideration, are things not to be begged. They must be commanded: and they who supplicate for mercy from others can never hope for justice thro' themselves. What justice they are to obtain, as the alms of an enemy, depends upon his character; and that they ought well to know before they implicitly confide.

      - Edmund Burke, “Letters on a Regicide Peace”

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  4. If the Big Other's book directs you to slay the kafir, sooner or later a stressful circumstance will arise that will facilitate your listening to Him. After all, it was the kafir who fired you, or was in otherwise responsible for the stressful circumstance. You were entirely innocent of any complicity in the matter leading to the stressful circumstance.

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    1. : "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."" [8: 12]

      "Of the wrong-doers the last was remnant was cut off. Praise be to God, the Cherisher of the Worlds." [6: 45]

      "You will find others who wish to obtain security from you and [to] obtain security from their people. Every time they are returned to [the influence of] disbelief, they fall back into it. So if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those - We have made for you against them a clear authorization." [4: 91]


      "Say thou: 'Yea, and ye shall then be humiliated (on account of your evil)." [37: 18]

      "Accursed wherever they are found, [being] seized and massacred completely." [33: 61]


      Koran

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  5. I just read that the woman who was beheaded, Colleen Hufford, had lost her home, last year, to a tornado and the house had just recently been rebuilt.

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  6. http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/26/sharia-law-is-coming-oklahoma-beheader-celebrated-terrorists-disparaged-non-muslims-on-facebook/

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    1. Anonymous,
      Thank you for that link! Very informative about the beheader.

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    1. Gateway Pundit? Common AOW, this guy is notoriously inaccurate.

      He broke the phony prayer rug story that Fox embarrassed itself picking up.

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    2. Duck,
      Even if the prayer-rug story was erroneous, that doesn't mean that the above link in my comment of 10:09:00 PM EDT is inaccurate.

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    3. Duck,
      PS: Have you checked the beheader's Facebook page?

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    4. When it comes to coverage of race and/or religion, the LAST source you'd EVER wanna consult would be the MSM if you're interested in truth.

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    5. ...the WHOLE truth... and not just a politically correct whitewashing of certain inconvenient, yet pertinent facts.

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  9. I'd say that the fact he was fired just a couple days ago speaks to a workplace killing. But I'm jut trying to be rational here.

    There is a sensational element in the beheading but the fact that he used a knife limited the casualties so this is hardly any worse than the workplace tragedies that happen in America.

    Current reports do not indicate he shouted anything in Arabic and he is not known to the local Islamic society but let that go, somehow this guy with an extensive rap sheet is a typical Muslim.

    By the way z, since I'm not allowed any longer when you mention me (bad form considering) please don't misquote me.

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  10. DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK!
    DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK!
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    DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK!
    DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK!
    DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK! DECAPITATE the DUCK!

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    1. I wonder how Duck would react if one of his beloved family members were beheaded?

      Colleen Hufford's family must be beside themselves!

      Let's think for a minute about something that Tammy stated above:

      And how does the company notify the children of the woman who was beheaded as to the nature of how she died?

      "Yes, Ma'am. pause How did your mother die? ,,,, pause.... She was beheaded.... pause.... Yes, she was beheaded...."


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    2. What a foolish question, AOW. Of course I'd be devastated.

      Is that question relevant to determining just what went on here?
      A man was completely full of hate and acted. Is there any evidence that Islam was the source of the hate? I'd want to know.
      Was this a ritual beheading? Is that what we should dwell on?
      Stories indicate that the women died from a single thrust that was so violent it severed a great deal of her neck. Another women was stabbed but not in the neck.

      If it happened to someone I cared about I wouldn't want it used as a means of hysteria. I would want it reported accurately and not used as a source of trumped up hate by the likes of Gateway Pundit.

      One of your closest blogging friends has expressed a wish that the local mosque in Oklahoma be burned to the ground.
      Not that it has been demonstrated that this man ever attended the mosque but what the heck, it's a fine way to express your grief at the death of a loved one, right?

      Let's be honest. This is important to many as nothing but another tool to generate hate for Islam. The facts about this sick angry individual don't matter and can be ignored later just as we ignore Gateway Pundit's lying rabble rousing about Ferguson.

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    3. and before Breitbart suddenly died, you said he should be dead in a body bag, so I wouldn't be quite so hard on Mustang, Ducky....

      Are you allowing yourself YET to understand the threat of islamists to this country?
      Think this was WORKPLACE VIOLENCE, too, because it was at work?

      And yes, indications are that about 30% of the 150 or so people at the press conference were Muslims shouting "Praise Allah!"
      Maybe YOU think that's peaceful and caring toward this poor beheaded American woman who only went to work that day....that was her transgression...
      I don't.

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    4. I thought that the Huffington Post and Politico reporters eere proven to be the "lying rabble rousers" in Ferguson. Prove me wrong, duck.

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    5. Duck,
      That comment certainly is relevant -- for those who have any empathy.

      One of your closest blogging friends has expressed a wish that the local mosque in Oklahoma be burned to the ground.

      A normal reaction, IMO.

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  11. I wonder how all those Democrats who scream phony charges of a GOP war on women feel now that a real war on women has been unleashed by Islamic fanatics shouting for Jihad and sharia?

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    1. "burying their heads in the sand" is a line you might have wanted to rethink, AOW !! (Smile, I'm pulling your leg..!!) :-)

      Mike....I don't think the Democrats care....but wait till they found out this guy was a REPUBLICAN Muslim (smile again!) And I AM kidding about that, of course.
      How we ALL wish this muslim had only 'slapped this woman's face with the back of his hand," huh?

      You are smart enough (and more) to understand Debbie Wasserperson Schulz is repeating and repeating that FOR the attention, right? She and the Dem machine know too well that American women are hearing that and that only Conservative women give a damn that she's lying and exaggerating. The uninformed liberals with Yahoo as their homepage lap it up. And then they vote.

      Wait for the next couple of months; there will be such incredible stuff said, such lies (as usual), because they know nobody asks "WHAT"? REALLY?".... I'm reminded of N.O.W. and their silence when Democrat Clinton was a serial womanizer.

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  12. Duck,
    By the way z, since I'm not allowed any longer when you mention me (bad form considering) please don't misquote me.

    Are you speaking of something that happened here at this blog or over at Z's blog?

    As for the rest of your comment of 11:53:00 PM, see this:

    ...During a news conference on Thursday, Sgt. Lewis says the FBI has been called in to investigate Nolen’s background.

    He says that after conducting interviews with co-workers, authorities learned Nolen was trying to “convert coworkers to the Muslim religion.”

    An online search showed Nolen created a Facebook page, using the name Jah’Kemm Yisreal.

    The page includes images of the alleged suspect praying, mixed with what appears to be armed radicals and even Osama Bin Ladin....


    More at the above link.

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  13. The fact remains regardless of any spin. The medical examiner states the cause of death for Colleen Hufford is decapitation and the act is classified as homicide.

    We must remember that what Nidal Hassan did at Fort Hood was "workplace violence" and what the perp did to poor Colleen is also "workplace violence".

    What will we call it when someone is snatched off the street like the French tour guide in Algeria and beheaded? Hmmm

    Here is the bottom line. The POTUS can blather about Islamic State at the U.N. and say it is about "adherence or infidel" and try to divert the gaze from linguistic profiling within the Qu'ran and Sunnah, but that does not change the text in the Arabic language and how it reads and how it played out in the 7th century.

    The script writer who came up with the word "adherence" to avoid using the word Islam or Muslim is the usual barely lit candle who writes for the President. But they do lack a knack for linguistic profiling.

    I find it interesting that the media descended on Ferguson for endless days when a white police officer shot an unarmed black male. But when a white police officer shoots an armed black Muslim male who just beheaded a woman and is targeting his second victim, it is classified as something which must be buried instead of covered with intense scrutiny.

    My religion of Christianity teaches speaking the truth with love. So here goes. The truth is that for many years U.S. imam and mosques have churned out a steady message of hatred against the very land and people who have taken them in. And the truth is that we are now seeing the fruit of the seed which was nurtured in underground manner for so many years. It is harvest time, kiddies.

    Tammy Swofford

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    1. Tammy, do you have any evidence that this individual even attended a mosque?

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    2. "Nolen took a picture of himself (above) September 5th, just three weeks before he brutally murdered an innocent woman, standing in front of the gates of the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City.

      The caption read: “At The Masjid (Mosque)Today For Jumar 9/5/2014 & Peforming Wudu!!!”"

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  14. Just some more pretty flowers planted in Mr. Ducky's back yard...

    Suhaib Webb, an Imam with ties to former Al Qaeda mastermind Anwar al-Awlaki, had also previously been the leader of the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, which had been attended by Alton Nolen -- the man who on Thursday beheaded a former coworker after recently converting to Islam, Breitbart News has learned. Webb now serves as Imam of the sister organization of the mosque attended by Boston Marathon bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

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    1. Farmer, you are aware that the mosque reported the Tsernaev brothers as extremists and the brothers stopped attending the mosque.

      Of course you don't. You'd rather read Breitfart.

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    2. Have they reported their Imam, Suhaib Webb, yet?

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    3. ...or is he the latest "Whitey Bolger" wannabe working for the baked Boston branch of the FBI?

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  15. AOW...all anybody has to see is the Facebook entries........yet still they deny. That is unsettling to those of us with families we love.

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    1. Z,
      Denial eventually comes to a screeching halt.

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    2. I wonder what it'll take, AOW. I really do. I don't see that happening.

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    3. Z,
      What will it take?

      A few ideas:

      The Islamic beheading of somebody famous (a celebrity, a Western leader)?

      So many are so desensitized that it's mind boggling!

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  16. How long do you think it will be before the guy who shot this guy will suddenly become scrutinized for having had a gun, etc.?

    And did anybody hear about this ON Thursday, the day it actually happened? I was astonished to hear it happened not yesterday but the day before. Every new pimple on Miley Cyrus's face is BREAKING NEWS yet I don't believe we heard about this amazing horrible story until the next day. Am I wrong on that?

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    1. Z,
      Remote news services reported what happened as a stabbing.

      Early on Friday, the Moore Police Department released the rest of the information.

      I understand the local media in Moore are not doing much whitewashing of this story.

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    2. "the rest of the information"? Was it on Thursday that the STABBING was reported? (like they forgot a beheading had happened, too~!?) So you did see coverage from the day it happened? I don't believe I know anybody who didn't think it happened yesterday.

      I have to admit the pressers I'm seeing are NOT whitewashing the muslim angle, which is refreshing.

      You know, I'm one of the VERY few bloggers who doesn't think ALL MUSLIMS WANT US DEAD and it's an uphill fight for me; even I get insulted for supposedly ever having even hinted that all muslims are murderers, which I have not.
      So it's a fight for me at my place and with email friends; I know ALL of us want to see Muslims marching against this terror and we have not seen it and that is a VERY fair criticism, a criticism I have always supported, as you know.
      BUT...FINALLY, we're seeing young muslims holding NOT IN MY NAME placards against their chests on Facebook, etc.
      This is a step in the right direction, but now I hear "they're just bs'ing us...they really don't feel that way..they're all liars" Can we even survive with this attitude? And TRUST ME, I DO NOT BLAME my dear friends who say that..not at ALL. But....

      AOW, since I heard ISIS was killing muslims, I felt like this was God's way of bring this to a head; Muslims ARE stepping up now. I guess you can suggest "Well, they'll get upset if it's happening to THEM now, won't they!" And ya...where the hell WERE they when it was happening to us? I get that, but let's support this beginning of sanity...this NOT IN MY NAME campaign.

      Still: Having said that; we MUST call it WHAT IT IS. We need to stop that ridiculous Workplace Violence NONSENSE and call it Islamo-terrorism. They're beginning to do that in this latest case. Did it have to take a BEHEADING of an AMERICAN whose only transgression was to show up at work?

      My GOD.

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  17. Umar Lee? Yeah. I was online with him for quite some time back in the day when he posted things about wishing he was in another country where he could behead people and get away with it. He is a self-styled "amir".

    For Ducky? The earth is the mosque and the sky is the dome. That is the basic understanding. Wherever a Muslim chooses to worship functions as the mosque.

    For Ducky? How many Muslims constitute a community? Three. Read Qutb.

    For Ducky? How many men required for prayer with one stepping forward to take the lead in prayer? Two. (conveyed to me by a full-fledged card-carrying Mufti)

    For Ducky? Can a woman be stoned for adultery? Yes. Historical vignette sent to me by a woman whose husband was an AQ loyalist/ she a former Catholic. Muhammad had a woman stoned after she gave birth. He allowed her to wean the child off the breast first. I suppose the man was whistling a tune as he picked up his stone.

    The complexities of the laws, the code of conduct and nuances evade most people.

    But as always, every mosque in the state will deny ever having heard of the guy - in spite of his FB digital history.

    Do I hate Muslims? Nope. Do I hope my head will never be lopped off? Yep.

    Tammy Swofford
    Daily Times Pakistan - Friday commentary
    Economic Affairs Pakistan - senior writer

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    1. Tammy, apparently, your just having spoken the truth here makes you a MUSLIM HATER....trust me, I've tried, but you're talking to deaf ears....ears which want you, by virtue of your conservatism, to be muslim-hating monster.

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    2. hat you fail to realize is that there was an anger in this man before he had any contact with Islam and your attempts to attribute that anger to his contact with Islam aren't convincing.

      He went on a rampage the day he was fired. Is that an uncommon event in America? Does the insertion of the Muslim connection change the pathology of this event?

      That's the issue here. A man went on what can most reasonably be called a workplace rampage and the reaction becomes - bomb the mosque, deport them all. Those reactions occur on a popular blog frequented by Muslim lovers.

      Well, take a look at what is happening with the Popular Front in France and be assured that you are NOT the voice that is going to prevent the spread of fascism in America. I fear the damage you will do to this country as much as I fear any damage from Islam.

      It may be a no win situation. Look at what happened in Egypt. Yes there were demonstrators who wanted democracy but what did most of them want? Bread. And with economies shrinking even faster in Arab nations than they are in Europe you can be assured that a breeding grown for radicalization is going to be with us for some time.

      Current conditions certainly don't bode well for any liberal democratic project and it is very unfortunate that we focus strictly on radicalization than the larger issue. That's why ISIS is trying to address issues of governance that have been ignored by our puppets in Iraq and may lead to their success among Sunnis.

      But let's just use a violent, angry man who become enraged the day of his firing is indicative of the issues. He was barely known at the local mosque and thought to be strange by the few who had contact with him. There had never been any trouble in that town with the people who attended that mosque but one violent man with an extensive criminal past is indicative.



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    3. Duck,
      When was the last time that an Islamic-style beheading occurred here in America as workplace violence?

      And why was Nolen fired in the first place?

      there was an anger in this man before he had any contact with Islam

      Indeed. All the more reason to keep the Sunni and NOI imams from proselytizing in our prison system. I know for a fact that a mosque sprang up next door to a maximum security prison in a remote area of West Virginia -- I saw it for myself a few years ago.

      How often do Christian parolees engage in the kind of violence that Nolen perpetrated on those poor women at work in Moore, Oklahoma?

      This is absolute truth: "By their fruits, ye shall know them."

      PS: Is is true that O.J. Simpson has converted to Islam?

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  18. Please see what Asylum Watch has posted.

    Excerpt:

    ...So the progressives can’t blame the tea party or Christianity or 2nd Amendment supporters or white conservative racists or republicans and their war on women or climate change or gun manufacturers. I’m sure I’ve probably missed some more. What a disaster.

    The one silver lining for the left is they can claim workplace violence. I’m sure Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and Eric Holder will point that out when they visit Oklahoma. Oh, that’s right, they won’t be anywhere to be found on this issue. Poor Colleen Hufford and Traci Johnson didn’t have the proper credentials to allow their plight to be capitalized on.

    Rest in peace Colleen Hufford. Hope you recover well Traci Johnson. Alton Nolen? Hope you rot in hell with your virgins just tantalizing out of reach. Progressives? They probably wish they had never gotten out of bed today....


    More at the above link.

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  19. About Colleen Hufford:

    Mrs Hufford, 54, was a mother and a grandmother, who had been married for 25 years, whose husband came to pick her up from work every night. They lost their home in the tornado in May.

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    1. Z,
      Obama's constantly saying terrorism (ISIS, etc.) isn't REALLY Islam so he can then insult the terrorism without insulting Islam.

      What ISIS follows is authentic Islam. That's the ugly truth.

      Did you happen to read or hear these portions of Obama's recent speech at the United Nations?

      ...[I]t is time for the world – especially Muslim communities – to
      explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of al Qaeda and ISIL.

      It is the task of all great religions to accommodate devout faith with a modern, multicultural world. No children – anywhere – should be educated to hate other people. There should be no more tolerance of so-called clerics who call upon people to harm innocents because they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim. It is time for a new compact among the civilized peoples of this world to eradicate war at its most fundamental source: the corruption of young minds by violent ideology.

      [...]

      Leadership will also be necessary to address the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis. As bleak as the landscape appears, America will never give up the pursuit of peace. The situation in Iraq, Syria and Libya should cure anyone of the illusion that this conflict is the main source of problems in the region; for far too long, it has been used in part as a way to distract people from problems at home....


      What do you think about the above?

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    2. But that quote I heard about WHY Obama's downplaying the violence of ISIS as not really Islamic makes sense to me; he can attack the terror while ignoring ISLAM's adherence to it.

      The part of the speech I've heard is how islam is such a part of AMerica now....and the way he described that. It's such a lie that we've got so much from Islam.

      So he's downplaying the Palestinian attacks on Israel which start these conflicts, saying that is NOT the 'main source of the problems'...what's he say it IS? WE know it's fundamentalist islam, what's he saying?

      I get nervous when I hear anything from him on "all great religions".
      Also, what 'so called clerics' 'call upon people to harm...Muslims?"
      I believe the only violent ideology that corrupts young minds is Islam.

      I want him to stay OUT of MY "great religion" !! Don't lump Christianity into this Islamic nightmare of beheadings and lies and other violence/terror.

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  20. From OK Police: Beheading Absolutely “Terror Event”:

    While some in media have been downplaying it, even calling it “a fit of workplace violence”, the police have been upfront about the Muslim connection, that’s why they called in the FBI.

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  21. For discussion, if any here are so inclined:

    Why hasn't Obama said a word about the American woman beheaded by a Muslim?

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  23. We know how the right likes to find a way to screech like children about anything and everything, but this was just another a lunatic killer. The right will of course use it to try to point out that Islam is more radical than Christianity when in fact they're both scary in the hands of extremists. And those who post crap like this story to inspire responses like this should be ashamed of themselves; "…they are here breeding you out so that one day they can gain political majority and instill sharia…." and "…every one of you filthy ragheads is DEAD and buried in PIG EXCREMENT…"

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  24. THIS ONE...can you point out a time in the last 200 years that any Christian has beheaded or otherwise caused terror under the auspices of the BiBle? We know that anybody who ever attended a church, even as a child, who murders gets the leftwing media to write "CHRISTIAN KILLS," but let's put your mind to good use and come up with something anywhere close to islamists, okay?
    Maybe you should watch the Bill Maher/Charlie Rose interview where Maher makes mincemeat of your protestations? Thanks.

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    2. I think you're aware that the church has not been responsible for the administration of jurisprudence for some time in the West.

      That said, beheading using the chopping block (ignoring the guillotine) was used as a method of execution in Europe in the 20th century. Germany, the Scandinavian countries and Spain all used it.

      Of course there was also the high point of Western culture, World War II.
      The Nazis used it extensively as a means of execution.
      Tarkovsky's slow pan to the chopping block at the end of Ivan's Childhood pretty effectively expresses the terror this holds for us over other means.

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    3. You should have Googled closer; not one of the mentions of the chopping block mentions anything to do with Christianity.
      To mention NAZIS is like saying Hitler was Lutheran :-) We've fought that one before; don't even try.

      No....Islamist beheadings are done in the name of allah, while it was barely used in the 20th century, it was finally banned in Germany, yes, but they'd rarely used it.
      I'm sorry to burst the "CHRISTIANS DID IT TOO!" bubble....but, not even close.

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    4. There is a lot of difference between a beheading via guillotine and a beheading via a knife used as a saw. The guillotine is more merciful than a botched hanging.

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  25. AOW....did you see that the FBI is saying there's no connection to terrorism and Nolan? Apparently, they just think this is workplace violence. They're apparently "probing his past" but I'm thinking they might want to "probe" his Facebook pictures and information?! My GOD.

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  26. The FB page of the perp shows a partially decapitated individual and "celebrity" images of the Talib and OBL. It also offers the digital chronicle of the journey of an American into the fold of Islam.

    The signature of the crime, is that of a Muslim convert who has come to loathe non-Muslims. Beheading and shouting in Arabic come to mind. We dishonour the murder victim by journalistic gaslighting of this as mere workplace violence. It would be like media discussing how a woman enjoyed her rape. I don't "do" depraved indifference. Not when it comes to a beheading in Oklahoma.

    Tammy

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    1. Tammy,
      The signature of the crime, is that of a Muslim convert who has come to loathe non-Muslims.

      As any who have studied criminology know, the signature is critical information for determining the motive. Furthermore, this signature was a new signature for Nolen -- that is, his previous crimes didn't involve throat slitting or beheadings.

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  27. I find it highly unlikely with all the domestic spying Big Brother is doing, that they weren't aware of this man's 'connection' to Al Qaeda. The story sounds like pure Government/Corporate Media nonsense.
    If they knew this man was a known Terrorist, why did they wait till he cut someone's head off to arrest him? This story is absolute Bullshit. Americans need to start better filtering the Government/Corporate Media Propaganda. They need to stop believing everything they're told. This nutter was a nobody

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    1. Thom,
      If they knew this man was a known Terrorist, why did they wait till he cut someone's head off to arrest him?

      Intelligence/surveillance failure -- as in the case of the jihad attack on the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013.

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  28. Good question! Why didn't they arrest the Ft. Hood terrorist before he massacred friends and colleagues?

    Why didn't they catch the White House fence jumper before he went through the White Housefront doors?

    Why didn't they stop the Fast & Furious guns from walking without tracking where they were going?

    Because Security is lax in the USA!

    EVERYTHING is screwed up here in the USA!

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    1. That is the point! If we can't stop a guy getting INTO the WHite House, what CAN we do? One might almost think this was all staged just to make White House security even tighter....naaaa

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    2. Z,
      That an intruder got all the way inside the White House is surreal.

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    3. Yes, AOW...and here's the TIN HAT AWARD OF THE YEAR, and you know I don't usually think like this...

      IF there was any word that there could be Americans ready to do some real insurrection/revolution stuff in backlash to the outrageous behavior of this president, wouldn't he want the WHite House even TIGHTER than usual? GEE....sending some unknown jerk (2, actually, in 3 days or so..what a coincidence!??) might make it vitally necessary to REALLY shut it down tight, huh?

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    4. Z,
      I'm sure that you've heard that the one intruder got far inside the White House.

      What were those Secret Service agents doing?

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  29. I don't get it: Nolan has Facebook pictures as linked and described above and poor Ducky and 'commenter' "This One" still go along with the Holder folks and say "workplace violence"? is this the new shooting, the new bullying, just another method of killing people in America now? Are we so enured to the atrocities of islamists that this is the NEW NORMAL?

    Maybe Ducky and this other 'person' are joking, but ...really? My gosh

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    1. It's just that the rampage occurred the very day he was fired, z.

      f he weren't Muslim there would be no question that it was a workplace reaction.
      However, you seem to feel that it's a coincidence.

      No, I'm not joking.
      You and mustang gonna blow up the mosque.

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    2. Z,
      Are we so enured to the atrocities of islamists that this is the NEW NORMAL?

      Perhaps.

      We certainly have a lot of new normals since 9/11.

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    3. Duck,
      [I]f he weren't Muslim there would be no question that it was a workplace reaction.
      However, you seem to feel that it's a coincidence.


      It is definitely not a coincidence if it's true that Nolen was blathering about stoning women and that blathering is what got him fired in the first place.

      Sign up for Facebook at take a look at Nolen's FB page.

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    4. Can you tell me where I agreed to blow up any mosque? Although I think a LOT of islamists deserve it...

      And you still think this BEHEADING is just workplace violence, right? It's not like anybody doesn't know he was at his work place, or where he used to work, and he was VIOLENT. But BEHEADING...? That's the NEW AMERICAN VIOLENCE? Like shooting and knifing were? REALLY?

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    5. Z,
      We're in deep, deep trouble if beheadings are now "normal" workplace violence!

      I wonder if beheadings are normal workplace violence in the Middle East?

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    6. And here's something else....How many attempted beheadings in America are being reported as stabbings? Just a thought as I'm drinking my first cup of coffee this morning.

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  30. Blow up the mosque? That is not in our cultural DNA. Americans have a history of showing great restraint until pushed hard. But when pushed hard enough, we push back. The beheading in Oklahoma is a very hard push.

    As for the insinuations, I am not a Muslim hater. Whilst most of you have probably never had Muslims in your home, I have had Muslims in my home for dinner, been in the homes of top Muslim geopolitical players for dinner, and yes - two weeks ago had nine Muslims spring up from the couch to turn off a movie we were watching and line up for prayer in my living room. They did not request the space. They just did it. This included the call to prayer, a leader stepping forward, and lining up in ranks with the women at the back.

    That being said, my husband told me yesterday to watch out for the "head whackers" when I went to the home of Muslim friends. Public image is all about perception. A beheading in Oklahoma? Bad taste in the mouth. Very bad taste.

    Nolen has probably been fired from other jobs. His actions were fueled by the same rage that flows through the veins of Islamic State members. The convert or die paradigm was wired into his brain map.

    Tammy

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  31. If this person had used a gun, we would get the predictable leftists smiling at this murder and happy that it gave them another chance to push for government stealing all our guns, and for nullifying the basic human right in the Second Amendment.

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  32. Ducky: Do you agree that Oklahoma was right to ban "Shariah" from its legal system?

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  33. AOW: I do, myself. But it is a violation of the Constitution to include any religion in a legal system.

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