See Frank Luntz on the Hatred of the Establishment Revealed by a Pro-Trump Focus Group: "This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking" at Ace of Spades.Is this the way for the GOP to cope with "the Trump problem"? See Lindsey Graham on Donald Trump: "I'll beat his brains out" in South Carolina.
In your view, how is this playing in Peoria?
Luntz is nothing more than a shill for the Dems who wears a GOP Cloak.Setting that aside, no one represents the voters at this point, so it is Katy bar the door. The whole thing is nuts at this point. No one has any idea what Trump really stands for, or Bernie Sanders as well. Good luck America.
ReplyDeleteBunkerville,
DeleteThe pendulum is swinging and swinging hard. Let's see where it settles by Election Day 2016.
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DeleteThe privileged 'elite' want to 'ask a question... but always from the FRONT of the line.
ReplyDeleteThe "Masters" always want to ask their questions... never ours.
FJ,
DeleteOne of the core problems with politics today.
Jorge Ramos's interruption reminded me of certain students who insisted on talking out of turn.
ReplyDeleteYep, I booted them if they wouldn't stop.
Mr. AOW said this morning: "That Latino guy just hurt his own cause." I agree.
I've seen others (maybe AOW) make this observations, but I will make it again: This is the ultimate consequence of the GOOP standing for nothing and being run by gutless, ball-less, thought-free pisants who stand for nothing but their own enrichment, power and position.
ReplyDeleteSo then you get wild-eyed crazies charging onto the stage from the far right fringe, and they are no better, unable to extend their appeal beyond the far right 20% or so.
We gave the GOOP House and Senate majorities, and they've done absolutely nothing with them.
So, even normally left-brained, sangfroids like me want to grab a tire iron and join in on kicking and beating the GOP to death, knowing full well it will result in a Hellary presidency.
It's not logical, but then, continuing to support the GOP pusbags makes no sense either, since it has done nothing for me or for the nation.
A more sensible path would be to invade the Democrat party and agitate for changes.
SF,
DeleteI've seen others (maybe AOW) make this observations, but I will make it again: This is the ultimate consequence of the GOOP standing for nothing and being run by gutless, ball-less, thought-free pisants who stand for nothing but their own enrichment, power and position.
Yes, I made that observation about the ultimate consequence.
Today, the following appeared in my inbox:
Jeb Bush's Blue Colors. Excerpt:
Which candidate running for president supported a $50 million partnership with Planned Parenthood, aided the war on coal and advocated for giving Washington bureaucrats more control over local schools? If you guessed Hillary Clinton or Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), guess again.
The correct answer is Jeb Bush.
Read the rest HERE.
The GOP will lose -- and deserves to lose -- if the GOP runs Jeb Bush for POTUS.
DeleteAOW: Agreed: When presented with the choice of the Democrat, or the Democrat Lite, the voters choose the real thing every time.
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Having said that, I think GOP politicians have made amazing progress at the state level and are doing wonderful things there. Just compare GOP-run states to Dem-dominated ones.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why that doesn't translate well to Federal politics. I blame the complete stranglehold progressives of all parties have on the byzantine federal bureaucracy.
I applaud the lifelong Democrat Donald Trump's efforts to destroy the Republican Party, and at this rate will be shocked if the Republican Party wins more than 8 popular votes nationally.
ReplyDeleteI am stymied that anyone thinks Trump (a.k.a. Donnie da mout) has value beyond reality television. It is a measure of how far down the road to absurdity we’ve gone.
ReplyDeleteEvangelical Christian voters can rejoice that Donald Trump doesn't need to pray to God for forgiveness because he "never makes mistakes."
DeleteRomney voters, it's too late to pretend you had principles to set aside.
Mustang,
DeleteYes, there is a strong element of absurdity.
But even stronger are the sense of anger and betrayal. They will likely override reason.
The pendulum is swinging and swinging hard.
Beamish,
DeleteSo far, that doesn't seem to matter to evangelicals.
Time will tell. It's a long way to the primaries.
Let me point out to my fringe right brethren that La Trump has no interest in being president.
DeleteIt would crimp his style much too much.
But he sure as hell wants to be a king maker.
It's clear that the big loser in this is the Bush boy but just who Trump is planning to bless and what he will charge remains to be seen.
Enjoy him. He's all yours.
I will support Trump until the day he wavers from or stops destroying the Republican Party.
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Jorge Ramos was not 'screaming' as Trump has said he did, over and over, but he did start talking right after Trump had called on another person and wouldn't stop....so he was removed. What most don't know is that Ramos was let back in and able to ask his questions, to which Trump waffled, as usual.
ReplyDeletewhat Ramos did was REALLY a 'gotcha!' moment; let's see if Trump complains for weeks about those "very tough questions!" as he has about that "Bimbo," (as he calls her, this man who "loves and respects women") Megyn Kelly.
Trump loves and respects women, hell he's married four of them. (ba-dum bump)
DeleteZ,
DeleteRamos deserved to be tossed out. Period.
What most don't know is that Ramos was let back in and able to ask his questions, to which Trump waffled, as usual. what Ramos did was REALLY a 'gotcha!' moment
To a certain extent, I agree. But that is only if reason is used. Not much use of reason going on today in America.
Which of the news media are covering the 'gotcha' moment?
Did you watch Megyn Kelly's show last night? For the first part of the show, the portion discussing Trump, she was quite subdued. How did that change in her demeanor play in Peoria? IMO, not in her favor.
Z,
DeleteIt doesn't matter to most that Trump waffled, IMO.
Why?
Because feelings (emotions) and political theatre have triumphed over reason and consideration of evidence. I can't lay all of that at Obama's feet, but that change is part of Obama's legacy.
Z,
DeleteUh oh!
Now Megyn Kelly Attacks Ted Cruz?
Maybe the entire GOP primary is just a put-on publicity stunt to boost Fox News...
DeleteRed Blobster; Ya, like FOX needs higher ratings?
DeleteDon't hit me thru the computer screen but I think Kelly's questions are perfectly reasonable..
DeleteIt's just that we're not used to media asking tough questions because most media is liberal and they're loathe to EVER cross one of their own.
I'd probably want to know the answer to her questions if I were here......and I think Cruz handled himself very well, by the way, in the wake of her, I have to admit, 'in your face' style.
Beamish, that just means Trump loves them a LOT :-)
DeleteZ,
DeleteI think Kelly's questions are perfectly reasonable..
Has she done the same to Jeb Bush?
Z,
DeleteWhen I watched last night -- I managed to catch this segment when it aired live -- I wasn't convinced that Cruz did all that well. It is difficult for a man to respond to a woman without that response looking like woman-bashing, something that the GOP is trying to avoid even a smidgen of showing.
True or not, a lot of people now perceive Megyn Kelly as taking orders from her boss, Roger Ailes, who takes his orders from Karl Rove and the RNC.
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Well, my friends, FOX is repositioning itself, shifting center, as is the country. A media empire can only take bright red right wing thing so far. A lot of Democrats watch Fox. Hell, I watch it. I agree with much of what is reported at MSNBC, but it can become embarrassing, just as some of the old hard right stuff was at FOX.
DeleteFOX is a pretty good news channel. That Megyn Kelly is hell on wheels, aint she?
Not a critical component of this, but just so everyone knows, Univision is not a Mexican channel.
ReplyDeleteUnivision is a US-owned TV Network, based out of Miami and owned by Haim Saban, a friend of the Clintons and a major Democrat party donor (he has thrown a few subway tokes to Republicans, like George Bush's 2004 campaign).
We get it over the air here, and I can tell you it is a leftwing fount of Democrat party good, Republicans evil. Their commentators excoriate any politician or public figure who wants anything less than open border and complete immediate amnesty for any and all who arrive here.
Univision has no balance. Although a US outlet, their outlook is very Latin American, and they are responsible for forming the opinions of people all over Latin America, since they have broadcast deals all over the continent.
All news programs are in complete sympathy with illegal immigrants and are critical of anything smacking of mainstream conservatism in the US.
SF,
DeleteThank you. That information is important because it goes to helping to understand Ramos's basis for whining about how he's never called on.
In his news programs, Ramos gratuitously flames Republicans in a manner so flagrant it would make the MSNBC kids blush.
DeleteSF,
DeleteAlso, Ramos's daughter works for the Hillary campaign.
SF, is your Spanish as good as that? WOW. It is all in Spanish, right?
DeleteYa, they're definitely Republican haters; Geez, what do we expect? They're leftwingers who don't believe in the rule of law, they figure we're one huge, rich dirty doormat, and we're wrong for wanting to save America from failure. Go figure, huh?
Z,
DeleteYes, SF's Spanish really is that good!
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From the LAtino Times:
ReplyDeleteIn Jorge Ramos, Donald Trump may have picked the wrong media star to tussle with
I don't know who to root for/against.
I respect both men in a way. Ramos for being a champion of the people, but he is the flip side of El Donaldo: Ramos doesn't just advocate or debate in goodwill. He actively demonizes those who stand up for immigration enforcement, no matter how respectfully and tactfully the speak about it.
I predict whitey-Latino relations getting much worse, and I predict it getting a lot more "in your face."
Thanks, President Obama! Your fundamental transformation is bearing the rotten fruit you intended.
I think there's a lot wrong with that article. "And according to recently published research, the GOP's presidential nominee would need to win nearly half of the Latino vote to make it to the White House" The research showed after Romney lost that if every White Christian voted, he'd have skated into office. so that's all he needs...not that he'll get it.
DeleteI really truly don't think that Univision is going to turn Hispanics from Trump, or at least the few who are for him now....and how many who watch Univision can VOTE legally?? I know so many Hispanics who are against open borders and the minimum wage...true.
I admire Ramos in some ways, too.....but for that author to call him the WALTER CRONKITE of anything is bizarre!
I don't know how the left can be blamed for Donald Trump. It has, after all, taken most Republicans considerably longer than one trillionth of a nanosecond to dismiss him.
DeleteBeamish,
DeleteIt has, after all, taken most Republicans considerably longer than one trillionth of a nanosecond to dismiss him.
That hasn't been my observation so far.
Z,
DeleteI think there's a lot wrong with that article.
Well, it is the LA Times.
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The L.A. Times isn't what it used to be....so many conservatives dropped their subscriptions that they're literally almost fair these days...of course, they still have very lib editorials and the one conservative on the comics page is waaaay down at the bottom, but.. :-)
DeleteThe L.A. Times isn't what it used to be....so many conservatives dropped their subscriptions that they're literally almost fair these days...of course, they still have very lib editorials and the one conservative on the comics page is waaaay down at the bottom, but.. :-)
DeleteI guess we'll see what happens in the primaries. But I challenge any vestigial Republican (i.e. whoever voted for Romney despite his not being quite as conservative as Obama) to explain Trump as conservative, libertarian, evangelical or any strain of the so called Republican base. I'm serious. At least Hillary Clinton can say she tried to get Barry Goldwater elected. What has Trump done for the cause?
DeleteBeamish,
DeleteUnless Trump has "evolved" (along the lines of Obama and H. Clinton with regard to gay marriage, for example), he is no conservative.
What I like about Trump: he appears to be challenging the GOP establishment, particularly the establishment's pre-conceived plan for who will receive the party's nomination for POTUS.
In general, I see Americans as FED UP with "politics as usual." With good reason! The GOP has become Dem Lite.
Trump is not conservative, not evangelical, and not libertarian. I see him more in the mold of Bloombergovich.
DeleteHe is a technocrat. The first time President Trump appointed another Ruth Bader Ginsberg to the Supreme Court, the conservatives who elected him would be screaming for his head on a pike (and yes, I could see him doing that).
He is shaking up the political establishment, and it needs it. I just wish the Dimbulbocrats were being similarly shaken...
Trump is mixing a volatile brew of nationalism and populism, two things which when combined have traditionally never produced anything but an exponential growth in tyranny, war, poverty, and death. Populist movements have always had one thing in common - they are always left-wing in result. We the government sets out to "make you happy" you will be happy, or else.
DeleteGive me a candidate that will finish the sentence "Government should _______." with "#$%& off and die."
Z,
ReplyDeleteI must say that I've lost a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly and several others at FNC, and that loss of respect dates back to well before Trump appeared on the scene.
What I'm about to type in may sound like sour grapes. I assure you that it is not! Even at my age, I can "strut my stuf" and get away with it. (Good genes!) And I ain't no prude, either.
Here goes....
The see-through tables with the women's long legs swinging back and forth with their feet shod in those stiletto heels and those low-cut sleeveless dresses (sometimes with sequins on a morning show)! Professional dress for female journalists? I think not.
Do I think that Trump should have referred to Megyn Kelly as a "bimbo"? No, I do not. But I admit to thinking that same thought myself from time to time about quite a few of the women who appear regularly on FNC on the news and talk shows, and I bet that a lot of other people have thought something quite similar.
How the FNC female journalists and female pundits dress for a Hollywood galas or other parties is a different matter entirely, of course -- just as what I wear to a casino is not what I wear to work or to a funeral.
We should ask ourselves this question....
DeleteIf we didn't agree so often with these women on FNC, would we then find fault with their dress code? I think that we might well do that.
And one more thing...
How do the female journalists on other channels dress?
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Deletewow, if we're talking about DRESS, I'm all over that....I am tired of seeing dangling rhinestone earrings on the FOX 6 AM news....and nobody doesn't show cleavage and I don't think I've ever seen slacks on a woman there..
DeleteAnd the camera goes back to make sure it gets all the thighs on OUTNUMBERED, and Guilfoyle's danging heels, yes.
I don't even like Megyn's dangling, limp hair, but I think she's bright as it gets and that she needs to ask tough questions.
Not sure I've ever seen her interview Jeb, by the way.
wow, if we're talking about DRESS, I'm all over that....I am tired of seeing dangling rhinestone earrings on the FOX 6 AM news....and nobody doesn't show cleavage and I don't think I've ever seen slacks on a woman there..
DeleteAnd the camera goes back to make sure it gets all the thighs on OUTNUMBERED, and Guilfoyle's danging heels, yes.
I don't even like Megyn's dangling, limp hair, but I think she's bright as it gets and that she needs to ask tough questions.
Not sure I've ever seen her interview Jeb, by the way.
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Great analysis about the interruption, AOW.
ReplyDeleteAnswer to question: very well. This is one reason people who like Trump LIKE him. He is a symbol of swatting away the BS. We are TIRED of being ignored, lectured and talked down to. Trump picks up on that to his advantage.
I found your Luntz link chilling, but not surprising. THEY ARE DEAF. They only talk to each other, and few value our Republic except for what they can get out of it.
Baysider,
DeleteYes, Trump is a symbol as you describe that symbol. He has indeed sized up the "political market."
AOW, you must be shocked by the murders this morning...I'm so sorry for your community, as well as the American community.
ReplyDeleteZ,
DeleteI am!
Apparently, the shooter, a self-described "gay black man," had been carrying a chip on his shoulder for a long time. The charges he brought up with the EEOC went nowhere, and he decided to make a statement by killing two white people (and wounding a third).
He was also an Obama supporter and professionally unethical, too: Roanoke Shooter Was Once Criticized By Superiors For Wearing Obama Campaign Button While Covering Election Night. According to that link:
Management at WDBJ dubbed the failed newsman the ‘human tape recorder’ because he frequently parroted what interviewees had told him rather than doing his own journalism.
Flanagan, 41, clashed repeatedly with photojournalists, belittling them in public and intimidating them with his violent temper, according to internal reports.
Last time I checked, no family or friends had come forward to speak for him or to register for claiming his body.
not even claiming his body? WOW.
DeleteSuch a sad story...thanks for that info
I like how the media keeps saying he had a collection of wigs but don't mention he was in drag.
DeleteBeamish,
DeleteYeah, I hear about those "disguises."
SF and AOW: I heard Ramos tonight on Megyn Kelly....he's no journalist..he's a total activist and where does he get OFF? He represents Hispanics and it sounds like he's just demanding that America open its borders and accept anything THEY need accepted..it's outrageous. I lost a little respect for him tonight. He might as well have said "And if America doesn't do this or that, they're all RACISTS"..Honestly...tonight, he surprised me.
ReplyDeleteIt's one thing to fight for your people but when it goes against the sovereignty of the country they're breaking into and he does it so publicly, that's concerning....
Z,
DeleteI saw that interview.
Ramos was rude beyond belief. And spitting anger, too. I'm surprised that the camera lens wasn't covered with his spittle.
Yup. To understand him, you must understand how news is reported in Latin America. You have establishment reporters, and you have advocates of the people. He is the latter. He is an open and heroic champion of the little people. It's a morality play: El Pueblo looking for a better life in the US are good; the mean, nasty hateful gringos trying to keep them out are evil.
DeleteIt's a mentality formed by zero sum societies, and it is also the reason why people to our south repeatedly fall for socialist strongmen, despite no evidence any of them were ever able to improve anything.
I could go on and on...
It's another one of those things I shake my head at, but I understand it, and it is all rational withing its own context.
FYI: Trump Telling GOP Leaders He Will Forgo A Third Party Run.
ReplyDeleteA few of this morning's interesting headlines:
ReplyDelete1. Pollsters dumbfounded by Trump.
Are we seeing a phenom? The last one I recall before Obama was Teddy Roosevelt.
2. Still Think Jeb Bush Vs. Hillary Clinton Is Happening? They’re the pundits’ front-runners, but they’re at odds with a restless electorate
Molly Ball wrote a very insightful piece on Frank Luntz (with his cooperation) after the 2012 election. Its a great window into his soul:
ReplyDeleteThe Agony of Frank Luntz
Thanks, SF.
Deletethat's a terrific article....insightful on Luntz, but also insightful on so many of our feelings, don't you think? It says it all, in my opinion....Obama's done such damage, leftwingers have done so much damage that Luntz doesn't see a way out for our country.
DeleteI think he's 100% right.
And 100% very rich!
I know people who went once to his L.A. mansion; they said it's INCREDIBLE
that's a terrific article....insightful on Luntz, but also insightful on so many of our feelings, don't you think? It says it all, in my opinion....Obama's done such damage, leftwingers have done so much damage that Luntz doesn't see a way out for our country.
DeleteI think he's 100% right.
And 100% very rich!
I know people who went once to his L.A. mansion; they said it's INCREDIBLE
Is the DNC having some fundraising woes? Please see this is the AP:
ReplyDeletehttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_MONEY_WOES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-08-27-11-17-14