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Friday, January 8, 2016

Open Thread

So, what's on your mind?

A link to get this thread started...

Groped between the legs and a firework thrown into a hoodie: Brave female victims reveal the horrifying details after attacks by sex mob of 2,000 'North African and Arab' men in Cologne
  • Two more Cologne victims describe being sexually assaulted and attacked
  • One, Jenny, suffered severe burns when a firework was shoved in her hood
  • Similar attacks also occurred on New Year's Eve in Hamburg and Stuttgart
  • Police have admitted they fear it was part of a known criminal enterprise
  • Fear it was a professional gang who sexually assault women as distraction
  • Cologne town centre has been called a 'no-go area' by its own city council
  • There are now fears the upcoming carnival will be scene of similar assaults

And note this graphic from this post over at Mike's America:

Read all of Mike's blog post HERE.

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  1. Coming to your town soon. Thanks Obama and the GOP.


    Islam is not a religion, it is a psychosis.

  3. We should conscript ALL the new migrants of military age into a a band of castrati Islamissaries.... then send them back to Syria to fight ISIS.

  4. The righteous outrage from Europeans would be deafening were it not for government scolding, shaming and censoring people. They will only be able to ignore Babar the Elephant in the room for so long...

    On a separate topic, like all his imperious actions and royal decrees, there is much mischief in Emperor Obama's Executive Order on Guns

    The mental health provisions alone gives the government Stalinesque powers.

    Breaking down the HIPAA barrier to allow health professionals to alert the authorities is just a start.

    Where's the adjudication? All it says is that someone who's been reported to the authorities by a health professional will be "provide(ed) a mechanism for people to seek relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm for reasons related to mental health"

    How many vets with PTSD will this chase out of the mental healthcare system?

    The next step in the Soviet Style system is for government to force dissenters into compulsory psychiatric evaluations in order to disarm them.

    Remember that they made Dinesh D'Souza go through such an evaluation, although his lawbreaking was a campaign funding violation and had nothing whatsoever to do with mental health.

    Given that we all commit Three Felonies a Day, thanks to the confusing byzantine tangle of ever expanding federal dictates, if government wants you, all they gotta do is stake you out. In the ordinary course of your day, you will commit a violation and they can haul you in.

    Republicans in congress have crafted legislation, but Obama is not interested in rolling up his sleeves coming up with real, bipartisan solutions.

    1. SF,
      The righteous outrage from Europeans would be deafening were it not for government scolding, shaming and censoring people.

      Orwell's Ministry of Truth (1984)

    2. SF,
      Thank you for that information about Obama's gun control executive action.

    3. and the Left makes it look like it's only 'these mean ol' Republicans who want ANYBODY to have a gun and just won't talk with Obama'.
      Hurrah for Sheriff Babeu:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/265177-obama-debates-controversial-arizona-sheriff-on-guns
      What's really ODD is that Babeu got fairly tough but none of the news I can find covers it...it's just bizarre!

      Re the Right and its media, it really bugged me to get an email from a friend of an article saying that OBAMA"S TOWN HALL EVEN WAS INVITATION ONLY (the obvious inference being he only had sycophants there)..That was totally true, it was by invitation, BUT Obama did invite the NRA(which didn't show up because they were told they got one screened question) and Babeu, for example.
      We're getting screwed by misleading headlines and stories.
      The Left is not less guilty of this but we need to be aware of how we're being played....even by our side.

    4. Sorry...that's EVENT, not EVEN in that article headline...

      I also wanted to say the CNN Town Hall is airing again tonight and it's worth seeing, I think....9 pm, EST. Taya Kyle was allowed to ask questions...

  5. Here are my favorite comments I've been posting at the Yahoo News site:

    * Merkel is criminally insane. Europeans need to jail her and her criminal gang that did this to Europe.

    * Angela Merkel is Europe's Jim Jones, a suicidal death cultist.

    * Angela Merkel, pasty-faces East German communist, is a Putin plant put in place to destroy Western Europe.

    * Germany can preserve their way of life and their beautiful, liberal culture. Or they can welcome in hordes of unassimilable people from an incompatible culture.

    One or the other. They can't have both.

    1. Sadly, German law says they must take everybody in; probably something implemented by America after they kind of rewrote their laws after WWII..
      But what Merkel is doing is absolutely INSANE...and my Munich Stepson is telling me Germans are beginning to speak up.
      The attacks on women all over Germany look bad, and they are, but I think it's awakened a sleeping giant. ("let us pray!" :-)
      Merkel does seem like she's lost her mind...

    2. Those are the ultra-rightwingers.

      Some of those elements are fascistic, but this is what a society gets when they construct false dialogs and create an overly-narrow channel of discourse.

      People here and in Europe are ready to explode, who knows the result, but maybe that's what it will take.

    3. "German Vigilante Groups Pledge to Protect Women After the Cologne 1000 (Mass Sexual Assault)"

      This surprises me NOT! If the police can't or won't protect the citizens from the acts of alien vermin the "citizens" will. Now, it will be interesting to see if the "police" [will] protect the vermin from the citizens.

    4. My stepson's been telling me people are getting REALLY angry but never mentioned vigilante groups.
      Also, he explained that the boys couldn't protect the girls because many, many muslim kids surround the girl...blocking the boys out...it's impossible.

      SF...I shudder at your "ultra right-wingers"...some are, some are just people SICK OF THIS and they shouldn't get that moniker, in my humble opinion.
      I don't want to be considered that when I speak out against islamic radicals...you know?

    5. Max Malefactor said

      I with you, kid. The quibblers and the bet hedgers won't be the ones who save us.

    6. Z: The particular group mentioned in the article is a self-described Right Wing group.

      Of course not all (or even most) who oppose mass immigration are dangerous neo-fascists.

    7. SF,
      With the political leaders MIA on the issue of the nefarious impact of these "refugees," it is inevitable that fascistic, white supremacist groups will gain traction.

      Europe is descending into a dangerous vortex, IMO.

  6. "Germany....... can welcome in hordes of unassimilable people from an incompatible culture."

    This begs a question: Why would Germany or, for that matter, any other country "welcome" those who will provide nothing more than a net negative contribution to its societal well being? This seems tantamount to a healthy body, purposely, exposing itself to deadly strains of bacteria.

    1. The US and other western powers shamed them into ball-less, brain-less pacifist liberalism after WW II.

      Germans, and indeed all Europeans are wonderful, open people enjoying nice, liberal societies. They make the mistake of believing everyone else is just like them.

      This is their wakeup call, but it's too late. This past year made the news, but there are second and third generations of backwards people on the continent now, roaming freely thanks to Schenken.

      Look at the history of formerly-Christian Lebanon since 1950. That is Europe's future. May happen more slowly, but it will happen.

  7. This is what happens when you introduce a bankrupt culture into a disarmed populace. This will not happen here.

    1. I wish I were as confident...

      The toxic mixture of global corporatists, crony crapitalist Repukes and naive feel-good dhimmicrats are taking us down the same road.

    2. True, but the difference here, is that groups of rapey Muslims prowling the streets of any U.S. city, openly molesting women and girls.....will be met the next night by even larger groups of "concerned citizens".I'll leave it at that...but suffice to say, some of these 'gentlemen'...wouldn't have the testosterone and drive to commit such acts again. They'd be lacking some crucial equipment.

  8. With regard to the link that I used in the body of the blog post...

    Reports: asylum seekers among Cologne attacks suspects

    Police identified some suspects who harassed women in Cologne on New Year's Eve as asylum seekers, media reports say. City police reportedly did not want to publicize this because of its "politically awkward" nature.


    Seventy-one people were identified, 11 people were remanded into custody and 32 criminal complaints were registered, according to the Welt am Sonntag (WamS) report.

    "There were, quite to the contrary of what was said publicly, identity checks on numerous people," the WamS quoted an unnamed officer as saying. "Most of them were recently-arrived asylum seekers."

    The first internal police report on the event - a so-called "wichtige Ereignis Meldung" ("important event announcement") - spoke of a crowd mainly of "North African and Arab" origin. According to the K├Âlner Stadt-anzeiger, the officer leading the team at the station wanted the report to include mention of the Syrians and asylum seekers, but the senior officer writing the "WE-Meldung" decided not to, saying it would be "politically awkward."

    Angela Merkel needs to be removed from office. Now!

  9. Why is it so difficult for Western leaders to understand that it would be much better all the way around to work out a solution for these people to stay in a safe zone in Syria? Better yet, SOLVE the Syrian problem and do something about the rampant spread of ISIS across North Africa. Then you wouldn't have these hordes heading north.

    What we are seeing now in Europe is the FAILURE to actually address the real problem. The consequence will be that the problem not only GROWS in the Middle East but spreads much faster in the West. Who can't see that?

    1. Mike, I think it is easy to call for a solution, making it sound as if no one wants that solution.

      The question of what to do is, as I am sure you know, is very hard.

      What should we do? How can we be sure whatever that proposed solution is, will work?

      What if there is no solution a majority of the American people will support? Should we go ahead anyways?

      No doubt, this is a mess, but a something approach, absent specifics, I don't think, is going to get us closer to the goal.

    2. Mike,
      The consequence will be that the problem not only GROWS in the Middle East but spreads much faster in the West. Who can't see that?

      The multiculturalists, who cannot bring themselves to admit that Islamofasicm and Western civilization are imcompatible. Coexistence is not possible!

    3. We may well be at the point where the only "solution" is going to be very strict isolationism, which is really not a solution at all.

      Major instability in an area which still controls a great deal of the world's energy resources will have ramifications.

      Does Islam need a reformation? I doubt anyone would argue that matter. There have been attempts in the past but there is also a serious thread of socialism in Islam and that has caused Western opposition to the detriment of all involved (Mosaddegh is the prime example).

      I'm afraid, Mike, that solving the "real" problem will require admission of our screw ups before progress is possible.
      Caught between the imposition of dictatorship or radical Salafists, people are going to try to get out.

      If we could step back and calm ourselves we would understand that the American muslim population has been able to meld and can be a powerful voice for a humanist Muslim reformation.

    4. Ducky,
      I grant you our cold war aversion to anything hinting as socialism was to everybody's detriment in some cases, but Mossadegh was a secular academic. The Clerics hated him. We did the Mullahs' dirty work for them, unfortunately.

      We need to arm up Egypt, Jordan and the Kurds and let them clean the place up, no matter how bloody it gets.

      Sisi is willing to get the Egyptian scholars in line, and that is the other important component, along with the complete strangulation of Saudi Wahhabism. We can't do it. Muslims there in the region must.

      Meanwhile, we provide the millions it takes to build safe, clean refugee camps. Bringing in unassimilable people is not the answer.

    5. Ducky, to solve the problem it'S WE who will have to admit OUR screw ups? wow

    6. Never send troops to do the job of a neutron bomb.

    7. Dave: The solution to a problem is usually easiest and accomplished at the lowest possible cost if the problem is tackled early, not left to fester. This is true whether we are talking about cancer treatment or foreign policy.

      Remember Obama's "red line" in Syria that disappeared? He had an opportunity to act. But even then, the problem was already well established.

      The situation goes back to 2011 when Obama, all for political reasons, pulled all remaining U.S. troops out of Iraq and allowed intelligence networks to collapse and ISIS to take hold. Obama made NO EFFORT to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq that would have allowed the U.S. to stay engaged.

      At the very least we could still put up a safe zone in Syria. We've done this before in Iraq and it worked. But Obama isn't doing ANYTHING.

      I could go on for hours on this topic but what's the point. Obama cares more about left wing politics than he does about implementing a practical, EFFECTIVE foreign policy.

      Until the adults are back in charge I don't expect much to change. The damage by then will be severe and the consequences will be bloody!

  10. Replies
    1. Bet you the suspect is also listening to voices.

      I'll guarantee that this one is a mental health issue.

      Psychotics and guns don't mix well.

    2. Duck,
      Do not discount the strong possibility that he converted to Islam while in prison -- hearing voices or not.

    3. Duck,
      Psychotics and guns don't mix well.


      Psychotics and Islam don't mix well.

    4. ...and the voices are saying "There is no God but Allah"
      and "Kill the infidels"




    Those who would be kind to the cruel are sure to be cruel to the kind."

    "Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."

    ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809)



  12. If this turns out to be true, then I called it on Hillary's Classified e-mails when I said it wasn't a conspiracy or whatever, but laziness and expediency trumping any concern for federal law and security regulations.

    This sounds too real to not be true:

    Clinton, using her private email server, asks for “the TPs,” apparently a reference to talking points being prepared for her. Sullivan, who is using his official State Department email, responds, “They say they’ve had issues sending secure fax. They’re working on it.” Clinton responds, “If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w[ith] no identifying heading and send nonsecure.”



    New Year’s Eve Muslim sex assaults: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland.

    The common threads: (1) Muslims and (2) European countries which took in hordes of Islamic "refugees."

  14. Sometimes the Duck isn't even worth the trouble. When you get past the skin, no matter what the color of the skin may be, you find the the meat is mealie and tasteless.

  15. "What difference does it make?"

    Clinton instructed an aide to remove the classification marking from information, a federal offense.

    “This makes it impossible for the bureau not to recommend charges,” [former federal prosecutor Joseph] diGenova said of the FBI. “This makes it impossible not to go forward, and it certainly ties the hand of the attorney general.”

  16. It's going to be a rough 2016.

    Excerpt from the article below:

    Many of these immigrants have been caught by authorities planning terrorist attacks on American soil, while others were found to be involved in efforts to provide funding and material to ISIS.

    Read the rest at Another 41 Foreign-Born Individuals Snagged On Terror Charges (dated January 8, 2016).


    1. Just when you think the wingnuts can't get any nuttier and asinine, they get way more nuttier, and way more asinine. Now they're claiming Obama used onions or lemon juice to produce tears. Like they're too heartless to understand that the deaths of first graders by being shot to pieces wouldn't cause a normal person to cry? In addition to not having any brains the nutters have no hearts so they believe no one else does. They a plague on this country -- mean-spirited, and rotten to the core.

    2. Naah....; he only cries when he thinks about how GREAT he is and how they all died to enhance HIS greatness and how PROUD he is of himself...


  17. I detest hillary clinton,! No one, who has the least bit of intelligence or commonsense, will elect her for president!!!!! NO ONE!!!!!!

  18. At the beginning of summer, Hillary led Trump by 17 points in an earlier Fox poll. Hillary is plagued by two significant challenges. Voter approval of Barack Obama is only 42 percent, while 53 percent disapprove of his job performance. Obama’s approval numbers are near the historic lows of his presidency.

    Worse, however, are Obama’s marks on a number of important issues. In fact, on every issue tested, whether improving health care or containing ISIS, a strong majority of voters believe Obama will be remembered more for his failures than successes.

    Hillary’s challenge isn’t just Obama’s unpopularity, however. She receives the lowest marks of any candidate running for president on being honest and trustworthy. Only 36 percent of voters believe Hillary is honest. A staggering 62 percent, almost two-thirds, say she is not trustworthy.

  19. I'm curious as to the effect the new Michael Bay (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000881/) film will have on Hillary's campaign.
    Even though he says it "is not being strategically released in an election year." I hope it opens eyes after people see it and discuss it.

    1. Shheesh. I forgot to mention the title Thirteen Hours.

    2. ZJanuary 9, 2016 at 5:02:00 PM EST
      I agree...she's so powerful I'm amazed she couldn't somehow shut it down. A friend is also halfway through a film on Benghazi...I (and I'm sure HE) am REAL sorry 13 Hours came out when it did...maybe his will "seal (pardon the pun) the deal if it's released closer to the election?"

    3. Has the movie "Thirteen Hours" been released yet?

    4. I wonder how many Hillary voters are fans of Michael Bay.

      At this point do you really think people haven't formed their opinions.
      Those leaning toward Hillary are going to switch to Cruz because of a Michael Bay film? I doubt it but I'm sure he'll blow up lots of stuff.

    5. Ed, let me break it to you.
      Benghazi is of interest to right wing true believers, only.
      It will have no effect on the election.

      Better have Issa fire up an e-mail hearing or better yet have Jerry Bruckheimer produce a Monica Lewinsky biopic.

    6. Duck,
      I wonder how many Hillary voters are fans of Michael Bay.

      Quite a few of the younger crowd, I think.

      Don't discount the effect of popular movies. Remember An Inconvenient Truth and Fahrenheit 451?

    7. How popular is Hillary, really?

      See this at The Black Sphere.

    8. Benghazi is of interest to right wing true believers, only.

      And demonstrably false. Why peddle such pablum?

    9. http://liveactionnews.org/planned-parenthoods-facebook-page-filling-with-outraged-supporters/

    10. Ed,
      Hillary's relationship with Bill haunting her now? Hahaha.

  20. Hillary Clinton says that she wants to be America's Angela Merkel:


  21. Who here has seen the January 18, 2016 edition of Time Magazine? The cover blares "How Trump Won." The lead article is "The Art of the Steal."

    And there's this in U.S. News:

    Trump Could Win It All: A new survey shows a sizable number of Democrats ready to defect from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.

    1. I'm sure that You've all heard the saying "Not all Republicans are racist, but all racists are Republicans"...my opinions in this post are about the Racist Right, not about ALL Conservative Republicans. The Racist Right does not hate President Obama because of his policies, (their number one excuse) how then do they explain the same loathing for Michelle and their daughters? Come clean Racists, we know what you are...

      What do I believe is the number one reason for the racism? FEAR! Fear our Black president would coddle Blacks, would use his presidency to move an agenda geared towards lifting Blacks from poverty which would give them power. Racists fear Blacks getting equal treatment, or godforbid, Blacks becoming superior to Whites! Blacks can't be equal in standing to Whitey, are you crazy? Barack Obama, "Savior in Chief", will make sure Blacks rise in power, becoming the superior race! of course he will...Just look at all the "free stuff" President Obama is tossing from planes flying over black neighborhoods! Did ya get your FREE cell phone? hateful racists...

      The Racists hate anything that fights oppression of Blacks, be it The Civil Rights Act or Affirmative Action. They hate welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing and health insurance, they point to Blacks as sole recipients of these government programs, RACISM!...The Racists fight tooth and nail to suppress Blacks, they pound and pound to keep them down, to keep them "below" them, one way most recently is voter suppression...gerrymandering, new voter ID laws, change times and places to vote, limiting access to the polls by the Racist Right backfired last year! Awesome turnout by Blacks and minorities in November is proof they will not cower to the racists!

      There is no other way to explain this, but to call it what it is RACISM, scary, hateful, racism....

    2. It's not racism.
      I, and others I talk to, despise him for what he does, the same as his wife.
      I don't despise his kids. Yet. Give 'em time like the Clinton kid.
      I do hear the occasional voice that indicates a racist bent, but that is not the overwhelming norm.
      Remember, the Democrat Party is the party of slavery, the Confederacy and the KKK.
      No black man voting democrat prior to 1964 held his head high in black society.
      The Republican Party voted in the Civil Rights Act opposed by the Democrats in Congress.

    3. Cut back on the Kool Aid, Sue. Your imagination is running away with you.

    4. @Sue
      Racism! You've got to be kidding me.

      This goes with what Ed said but this is a literal truth. At the time of the Civil War, all Republicans were abolitionists by definition and on the other side of the coin, although not all Democrats were slave owners and copperheads all slave owners and copperheads were Democrats.

      Democrats have done nothing to be proud about, in terms of racism, since. Be it the Jim Crow laws of the South, the resegregation of the Federal Government by Woodrow Wilson or the internment Camps of Roosevelt and the cynical "Great Society" program of lying Lyndon Johnson in an effort to subjugate the Black and other minority population to velvet yoke of the federal government.

      So get off your high horse and down in the horse crap were you belong.

    5. Hi, Warren. Great to see you here!

      lying Lyndon Johnson in an effort to subjugate the Black and other minority population to velvet yoke of the federal government

      And create a Democratic Party voting bloc -- as he well knew.

      In fact, LBJ despised those with brown or black skins. In our parlance today, he was a white supremacist.

  22. Who remembers Colleen Hufford, beheaded in September 2014 in Oklahoma?

    Muslim convert 'who beheaded female colleague at Oklahoma food plant' to stand trial for first-degree murder

    Bare Naked Islam has additional information, including what the beheader posted a month earlier on his Facebook page.

  23. Life is very short so speak the truth: Islam, as practiced by MOST Muslims around the world, is not a peaceful religion at all but a violent ideology antithetical to our values of freedom & tolerance. Every single day the world's newspapers & the internet are full of examples of Muslims behaving badly in the name of Islam. Not Christians. Not Jews. Not Hindus. Only Muslims - fighting, killing, raping, engaging in terror, denying women basic rights, forcing people of other faiths to convert, suppressing speech...the list goes on...EVERY SINGLE DAY.
    Islam, as practiced by most Muslims, is incompatible with the modern world. As long as we don't wake the hell up and acknowledge this horrible fact, many more innocent people will be killed, raped, and denied basic freedoms. Islamism, like Communism, Fascism & Totalitarianism before it, is the world's biggest cancer today. We have to be courageous enough to call it for what it is.

  24. You really don't have to make anything up to embarrass the writers of the conservative bible or conservapedia for that matter. (Salon linked me to the conservapedia article on Obama, I thought it was parody similar to dikipedia.)

    The well-known parable Jesus told about the householder going to the market to hire laborers in Matthew 20 is simple to understand. The man hires laborers early in the morning. Then he goes back three more times to hire men at 9:00 a.m., 12:00 noon and 3:00 p.m. Each man has been told he will receive one denarius for his labor. Finally the man returns to the market to hire more men at 5:00 p.m. (the eleventh hour.) Every man is paid the same. The ones who worked all day understandably grumble that the last men received the same wage. The householder tells them he has honored his agreement and he is free to do with his money what he will.

    The parable teaches the Jews that Gentiles too will receive a full inheritance of the kingdom of God even as the Jewish people who have been with God since the very beginning. A similar message to that of the parable of the prodigal son. Here is the conservative bible take on things:

    At issue is not the principle of "equal pay for comparable worth," but that an employer has the absolute right to pay whatever wage he wishes to pay, so long as he honors his agreements without discrimination. In the same way, God has the absolute right to reward those of us who serve Him exactly as He wishes, and He will always reliably honor the agreements He makes.

    Sorry boys. That's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Better get down on your knees and pray for forgiveness.

    1. I'm not following your blasphemy remark.
      Like many parables, there is a multi-layered message.
      I actually believe the parable you quote also talks about works not being your ticket to heaven, along with the interpretation you give. Or the value of a deathbed conversion.
      But to think it can't be used to demonstrate the enforcement of contracts is .... different.

    2. Ed,
      the parable...talks about works not being your ticket to heaven

      In my view, that is the parable's primary message -- along with the idea of God's sovereignty in that He decides by what means we may have salvation. Who are we to complain to the Creator?

  25. This Old, sick, senile, liar, cheat, deceiver, socialist, accuser, incompetent leader, a women who never wears a dress, fowl mouth four letter word user, has armed guards around her (yes do you believe she wants them to have guns), Treasonous, Sympathetic to Islamist Muslim terrorist. Follows Obama agenda, attends meetings with secret societies ( Bildersbergers etc), heavy drinker.

  26. The majority of young American women who want Obama to bring in Muslim refugees. Are democrats who also are for Hillary's women's rights etc., does that include being RAPED , Beheaded etc. I Guess so?


  27. You make law and order sound like a bad thing. Breaking the law is breaking the law no matter who is doing it. Bank robber, illegal immigrant, shutting down commerce are all illegal acts but treated differently.

    We can have another Waco or we can just ignore them. Ignoring them seems to be the better choice. You are close to a border, how many crimes are committed by illegals crossing the border every day. The answer is a lot and people in that region threatened, vandalized and robbed every day so yes there is a correlation, both are illegal acts. I don't see the same attack on our ineffective handling of illegals so yes it is the same, they are committing a crime.

    As to your post about being treated bad on other sites. Like this one, we are all at the mercy of the owner and her/his/it's/theirs set of rules. I am not supporter of personal attacks nor of swearing because it shows a lack character or limited vocabulary. I may disagree with you and RN but you stand up as who you are and on the web that is admirable. Of course you express differences without attacking and I can't say the same for Les, at Rational Nation USA.

  28. Since it's an open thread I'd like to know if folks feel this story is under reported (from my perspective, a rhetorical question).

    An appointed overseer in Flint, Michigan switched the city water supply to the polluted Flint river and despite a long period of complaints just let it be.
    The populace is experiencing a variety of illness including lead poisoning in children.
    The biochemistry dept. at U. Va. (I believe) has examined the water and stated that most of the effects could have been alleviated for under a million dollars of additional treatment.

    Seems even more arch than just turning off people's water as they did in Detroit.

    Why hasn't this been reported in depth?
    What does this say about us as a nation?

    1. Never mind. I found this.

      BTW, Mr. AOW knows something about this story, which he heard on the news a few days ago.

    2. Pretty sad chain of events.

      It says our nation is approaching third-world status. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. I think we'll be hearing a lot more stories like this over the next decade. The post-WWII fantasy bubble will eventually explode, and we'll realize we've squandered our wealth and we're no better off than Greece or Argentina.

    3. This poisoning of the water is a symptom of the moral degeneration of our society as whole.

      Look. I understand that Flint, Michigan, is up against it financially. But to allow the water to be poisoned? Unforgivable! Who will be held accountable?

      The problem of the government's lack of response to pollution/poisoning isn't limited to Flint, Michigan. See this, about the gas leak in Southern California: Porter Ranch gas leak triggers state of emergency in California. The leak (methane gas) was detected on October 23, 2015. October 23! Thousands have been forced to evacuate since that time. In at least one location, the leak was detected at releasing 100,000 pounds per hour.

  29. 90 plus % of Americans want background checks, a majority of GOPers want background checks, majority of NRA membership want background checks. It's not easy to get 90% of Americans to agree on anything these days.

    when the background check vote came up in Congress, the GOP and a few Dems voted against it and the wishes of the American people and FOR the NRA leadership.

    Mr Obama is clearly with the American people on this issue and those who voted against it are happy with his conclusion


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