As MTG points out, the Democrats seek to "mystify" and "mythologize" the events of Jan. 6. Clarity and an exposition of all the facts relating to events at the Capitol would be contrary to their purposes.
"Did anyone watch the House Jan. 6 Committee Paranoiac Conspiracy Hearing? I know I didn't.." -FJ.
It's one thing to not watch it but it's another to remain uninformed of it. Most who refused to watch it have been programmed to not watch or read anything that gives it a constructive assessment..
And so they turn to the spinmeisters and gullible groomers. The batshit crazies like MAGAnut and Qanon queen "frazzledrip" promoting Marjorie Toddler Greene who claims that laser beams are shot from outer space by Jews to start CA forest fires and has promoted executing political opponents doesn't deserve consideration on any front.
But rather than wailing on about mistreating those innocent tourist on a peaceful stroll (while at the same time, chastising Dems for not protecting the capital) here's a couple takeaways worth consideration: Trump's further exposure of a connection and influence of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers AND documentation that multiple Republican lawmakers asked Trump for pardons immediately after the attempted coup.
Those are incriminating points. Why would these lawmakers ask for pardons? But if you want to rely on alternative facts and swig the Tucker tea, I guess they're not that bad.
Trump's Team Kraken couldn't produce legal evidence of a stolen election, so it's appropriate the Democrat party response would be a mirror-image nothingburger.
The trouble with accepting a pardon is that it is legally a tacit admission of guilt, as the Russian FSB asset Gen. Michael Flynn will attest when he's not out and about advocating civil war for money.
Stalin could read, speak, and write German and had 14 years notice that Operation: Barbarossa was coming. Have the Russians tried turning off and turning back on their intelligence analysts?
Ed, it wasn't that the courts wouldn't hear it but rather there was none to present.
Don't confuse the lying belching of Trump, Trump's lawyers, Rudy, Hannity, and on and on with "evidence". They can legally stand there and spoon feed you that horseshit from dust till dawn until it's the only taste you know but they can't try to sell it under oath to a judge because they'd be disbarred or criminally charged.
He failed in the lower courts and appeals courts because he had no case. All 9 Supremes, the court he stacked, agreed there was nothing there.
One of the most puzzling things to me is that Trump groomed his basket of gullibles for 4 years going from Klan rally to Klan rally making statements such as "because the only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged”. He stacked the courts with admissions of needing them in order to insure his victory in case he lost.
He made it clear. He made it obvious. He took actions to insure it. He told us over and aver again that he would not accept a loss.
His very own people didn't buy it. His hand picked courts didn't. Bill Burr didn't. Kevin McCarthy didn't.
And then came "just find me 11.780 votes" and I could fill this page with more.
It's beyond me how people who seem to be of reasonable intelligence can actually buy into such obvious horseshit.
But I suppose it really shouldn't come as any surprise as we've seen it with weapons of mass destruction, Mexico paying for a wall or even the feasibility of a wall, death panels, laser beams, etc. etc. What's 1 more Big Lie?.
The only Court left open to Donald J. Trump is the Court of Public Opinion. And as we see in the fear labels imposed upon this video, even THAT has been a priori stacked against him.
But perhaps you have seen what <a href='https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1535082158909538304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1535082158909538304%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2Fblog%2F2022%2F06%2Fhas_msnbcs_ratings_crisis_caused_it_to_start_telling_the_truth.html">Rachel Madcow</a> is saying... ;P
2000 Mules came up short in providing any concrete evidence and it didn't verify widespread voter fraud, regardless of how many times you watch it or how badly you want to believe it.
I know, my reviews and factchects are leftwing fake news etc. I get it.
That if there was any conspiracy on Jan. 6 at all, it didn't originate with the MAGA crowd attending DJT's speech on the Washington Mall. It centered on the Capitol itself... and all the groups that had been largely been infiltrated by DOJ/FBI... groups like those who directed the "trial run" Whitmer coup in Michigan, whose funding levels SOARED after Jan. 6.
FA, how is it that Maddow suddenly has credibility when she says something you like to hear?
I think much of your intentional ignorance is that you rely too much on Tweets and Youtube clips.
I don't know who knew what in at the time of that Tweet which is why there was a need for an investigation- something that Trump and Republicans desperately didn't want to happen.
Warren, I'm not a fan of Maddow or other picture painting entertainers disguised as journalists.
She is correct that the rally was a distance from the Capital attack but that doesn't prove or disprove a connection.
That's why we have congressional investigations, to get to the bottom of what happened and why. Again, this is obviously something Trump and Republicans leaders don't want the American public to find out.
There's an investigation? It looks more like a Show Trial. An investigation would have included Jim Jordan, et al, and not a priori seeded the Committee with partisan Never-Trumpers on the Republican side who've lost all credibility with the vast majority of Republican voters (ala Liz Cheney).
But please. Get back to your media hyper-normalized political hyper-reality. I haven't had this much fun watching the surrealism of the applied paranoiac critical method in action since Salvador Dali. What do you see in this painting, RJW? Is it Trump?
At the conclusion of the House "select" committee's "investigation", we'll have heard the prosecution's case. The defense's case will have ended up edited out and placed in classified secure containers in Adam Schiff's office, much like the Robert Mueller "investigation" of Trump-Russia "collusion" and Robert Durham's investigation into the NSA database exploited "alternative construction" operations for FBI Leadership by contractor's of the DNC-partnered Perkin's Coie law firm.
...but then again RJW, when have you ever drawn a conclusion from "evidence" and not merely parroted the conclusions of media and "authority" figures? I can't name a single time.
I know that mastering and exploiting a newly opened legal loopholes can be a real b*tch.... but if done successfully as in the legal cases of Perkins Coie, can prove to be quite the "rainmaker".
...but it will claim to have found "responsibility" in the person of DJT. It was a "Red Queen conclusion" arrived at the very moment the "investigation" began. "Verdict now, trial LATER!"
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btw - what do you think of the events in Idaho, where they arrested the 31 non-FBI members of the "Patriot Front" faux-white supremacists group (organized and sponsored by DoJ entrapment)? I guess it's the fruity-pay-off in increased funding for "domestic terror" operations. wtg Chris Wray! Apparently the group was off to "riot" at a June Gay Pride event. Did you know that white supremacists HATED gays? I didn't.
I'm old enough to remember when white supremacists here in the west didn't just larp, but actually blew things up, killed people, and robbed Brinks trucks to fund their criminal activities.
Glad the cops took down those perps. They really could have hurt somebody with those reinforced shin guards.
It is both shameful and disgusting that the New York City Democrat Party Leadership has decided to allow Foreigners to Vote as if they were New York, American Citizens. Now tell me the Democrat Party Leadership has the best interests of New York City citizens in mind.
You just can’t make this crap up. The Democrat Party Leadership, that was once for the hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE COMPLETELY MAD.
I have to wonder what has happened to the Democratic Party that my Parents always voted with? And will the people keep voting those idiots in? Don’t they see that they get what they voted for? For example Bill Di Blasio, Chuck Schumer, Jerry Nadler, Eric Adams, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Andrew Cuomo, and the rest of those CROOKED Bunch. I'm wondering how constitutional it is for a non Citizen to vote in any American election? And if it is, then WHAT HAVE WE COME TO?
It’s sad, and shameful that a person could be so stupid as to allow anything like this. SO, WE DO GET WHAT WE ASK FOR!
Remember as you watch, and Listen to these hearings, You are hearing one side of the story, without challenge, as would be done in a legally-constituted and fair committee hearing. This is how the Democrat Party operates.
Carnage: n; great and usually bloody slaughter or injury (as in battle)
It was astonishing to see the word "carnage," as in "The carnage of Jan 6th," employed so often by so many hysterical people in so short a period of time. One person shot by one bullet is a very long way short of carnage.
Jayhawk... I think the number of Capitol Police who were injured, suffered broken bones, cracked skulls and lost fingers defending the building from the mob might disagree with you.
Fearing for their lives as ppl spoke of killing the Speaker of the House, hanging the Vice President and Fu^#ing the place up, those officers were brutalized.
@Dave - While I'd argue that the 'back the blue' narrative was exposed to be utter bovine excrement.....I would still say that this event doesn't rise to the level of 'carnage'. We have a disturbing, and increasing habit, of jumping to the extreme with our choice of words. All that does is cheapen the definition. Uvalde was carnage. While embarrassing and pathetic, Capitol Hill was not.
CI... yeah, I hear what you're saying. If everything is carnage, then what? Carnage squared? Carnage on steroids?
While some may jump to "over" carnage, others tend to go low and minimize. It just seemed to me that Jayhawk was trying to minimize or even dismiss the injuries of hundreds of officers who themselves testified that they felt like they were in an ongoing brutal battle.
But kudos to you. Darn few of the folks from the right seem willing to even go as far as you did in your comments regarding "back the blue" and the events of 1/6.
CI... I expect that kind of "red meat" BS from lawmakers. And yes, on both sides.
Where I struggle is with the inability or unwillingness of others who support those views to call out their own favorites.
Seriously, how can any GOP/Conservative/Republican/Right Leaning person even think of hammering us lefties for not supporting police when they refuse to admit that so many officers were attacked, brutally beaten and injured on 1/6?
And not by BLM/Antifa lefties, but by fellow conservatives.
Have they not seen the tapes? Do they think it is all made up? Are all those officers in on the conspiracy? And their doctors? And all the rest of the staffs at the various hospitals to where they were taken?
Or are they just choosing to ignore it because it makes "their side" look bad?
You know what I'm talking about... hyperbolic use of terms like "carnage" or "insurrection" and "treason" to describe the events of Jan. 6. (aka LARPfest '21).
@ Layla & Ed No entiendo nada. Un loro dice lo que sabe pero no sabe lo que dice como muchos aquí. Understand, I'm working through someone who has a major in Spanish Lit.
The hearings were riveting. Truly this is history in the making. I watched every minute and dvd'd them to watch again later today. I happened to catch a little bit of Washington Journal this morning and, unbelievably, Republiclowns are STILL trying to minimize or even flat out excuse Trump's actions by spewing out every absurd thing you can think of. Two of them were blaming Pelosi for not protecting the Capital better! Truly, the stupid is strong with those people
Oh! BBS, must mean the DNC Telethon for campaign funds. When does Jerry Lewis sing "You'll Never Walk Alone"? I hope I don't have to wait until the end of the 6th installment!
The opening hearing of the January 6 Committee was riveting, especially Rep. Liz Cheney and the way she laid out the case against Trump. Her message was clear: TRUMP DID THIS.
I was worried there would not be enough emphasis on his guilt. The committee needs to pound that home over and over. Now I understand why FAUX would not air this damning evidence.
That was an indictment of Trump, whose hunger for power & inability to accept he'd lost was his only guiding light. Maybe not a criminal indictment, but if GOP embraces him in 2024, it is hard to see a way forward for them.
Even Ivanka said the election wasn't stolen will kill him. The anger I feel at Trump intentionally endangering the lives of EVERYONE at the Capitol on 1/6, and then placing no calls, giving no orders to send forces to defend the Capitol, with Pence having to give those orders . . . there are no words. Other than TREASON!
When those LYING Invaders were storming into our Country ILLEGALLY, and FALSELY claimed that our Boeder Patrol Men on Horseback were Whipping them Biden was furious, and lectured the Republicans for being so “Brutal” BUT when an American Supreme Court Justice is THREATENED to be KILLED, and is caught with a Gun, and a Knife, Duct Tape , etc. the Delusional Potatohead President is totally silent, AND not one word about it was said. Biden had 3 days, and several opportunities to condemn the actions and Failed to Do So. An armed man was arrested, and charged with attempted murder after police arrested him near the Supreme Court justice's home, and the President of these United States says ZIP! NOTHING! Where is the Media on this? All that we get is silence from both Joey and Kamala.1 And now I see that they also were Picketing around Amy Barrett’s home.
As we know, or should know that Protesting, Picketing even near the homes of any Supreme Court Justice is Against The Law. It’s shocking how rapidly they’ve brought down our country. It no longer feels like America, but rather that we are living in a nation where our elected officials are working to the detriment of the citizens.
In 2019, when Donald Trump was President, the U.S. did achieve energy independence, something that had not happened since 1957. Biden became the President and that ended on HIS first day in office and things have gone Down South ever since. He can blame Putin, he can blame Trump, infact he can blame anyone that he wants to, BUT anyone with an once of seanse knows that it’s 100 percent HIS (Biden’s) fault. Did you expect him to actually take the blame for any of HIS failed policies?
Inflation highest since the dawn of time as democrats spend more and more making it worse. We have a border that continued to be out of control since Biden took office. Shortages still continuing due to democrats shutting down the economy during Covid that accomplished very little if anything. Gas Prices are the Highest in 40 years, and going higher daily. The exit from Afghanistan was a Gigantic Disaster. A border that is uncontrolled with crossings off the charts since Kamala was put in charge of it Crime is spiking across the country as crimes are reduced to misdemeanors by democrats An Iran deal overseen by Putin who is essentially Hitler. The Baby Formula Shortage. The fact that we are losing our Freedoms. Cancel Culture. The attack on our Supreme Court Justices. And the list goes on.
Agreed. It is all horrible. The worst of late was the attack on our Justices. There are no boundries to hold these people back. Our animals behave better than Dems do!
As for the Protest in the Capital Building, true, the Protesters did go a bit to far, However was Breaking a Window call for Shooting, and KILLING a young Lady, who just happened to be an Air Force Veteran! We as American citizens have the right to protest without fear that we are going to be jailed for it. Of course, since we aren't Antifa and BLM, we go down in flames for our rightful protest. And we as Republicans do not Loot, Murder, Set Fire to Buildings, throw Bricks at the Police, cause destruction to our Towns and Cities. and we don’t threaten the Lives of Supreme Court Justices, or Protest at their Homes.
That "None as usual" aside FA, nope, not a bit of evidence which is precisely why I led out with "word has it".
But to the larger point, it's a continued and consistent example that "evidence" is no factor in Trump World. It always always starts with something along the lines of "prove it" leading ultimately up to either alternate facts or "it really wasn't all that bad". I can name and have named example after example and it's a movie we've seen for around 5 years.
No I can't prove it nor do I really give a flying crap. But the point is that "evidence" is irrelevant to the gullibles and like trained seals, will gladly clap their fins chanting "ork ork ork" and consume whatever flying crap their propaganda masters choose to toss their way.
Even in your multiple replies, you've already started to defend it even after questioning its validity.
The political AND moral courage of Liz Cheney was a shining beacon of light and TRUTH from a true conservative of character. Unfortunately the party to which she belongs has morphed into nothing but an oozing pool of putrid pus.
lol! Democrats respect the integrity and character of Kinzinger so much they just redrew him out of his red district and he has no hope of winning, so he's not even running in 2022, and he cries and whines its all the Repubes' fault. lol
It's a contrast between the neo-Leninist Steve Bannon's strategy of throwing shit at any and all walls to see what sticks and the Liz Cheney dignity of saying "eww you have a fist full of shit."
One dies of monkey pox, the other has clean hands.
One dies of monkey pox, the other has clean hands.
Clean hands kinda like Pilate, huh (Mathew 27:24)?
At the hearings, the crowd shouted "Release Mike Pence!" who had denounced Trump with the following kiss... 'I don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye' on January 6.
Hearing schedule: •Monday at 10 a.m. •Wednesday at 10 a.m. •Thursday at 1 p.m.
In Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World (1978), Girard develops the implications of this discovery. The victimary process is the missing link between the animal world and the human world, the principle that explains the humanization of primates. It allows us to understand the need for sacrificial victims, which in turn explains the hunt which is primitively ritual, and the domestication of animals as a fortuitous result of the acclimatization of a reserve of victims, or agriculture. It shows that at the beginning of all culture is archaic religion, which Durkheim had sensed. The elaboration of the rites and taboos by proto-human or human groups would take infinitely varied forms while obeying a rigorous practical sense that we can detect: the prevention of the return of the mimetic crisis. So we can find in archaic religion the origin of all political or cultural institutions.
According to Girard, just as the theory of natural selection of species is the rational principle that explains the immense diversity of forms of life, the victimization process is the rational principle that explains the origin of the infinite diversity of cultural forms. The analogy with Charles Darwin also extends to the scientific status of the theory, as each of these presents itself as a hypothesis that is not capable of being proven experimentally, given the extreme amounts of time necessary for the production of the phenomena in question, but which imposes itself by its great explanatory power.
Origin of language
According to Girard, the origin of language is also related to scapegoating. After the first victim, after the murder of the first scapegoat, there were the first prohibitions and rituals, but these came into being before representation and language, hence before culture. And that means that "people" (perhaps not human beings) "will not start fighting again." Girard says:
If mimetic disruption comes back, our instinct will tell us to do again what the sacred has done to save us, which is to kill the scapegoat. Therefore it would be the force of substitution of immolating another victim instead of the first. But the relationship of this process with representation is not one that can be defined in a clear-cut way. This process would be one that moves towards representation of the sacred, towards definition of the ritual as ritual and prohibition as prohibition. But this process would already begin prior the representation, you see, because it is directly produced by the experience of the misunderstood scapegoat.
btw - Be sure to join the Democrats June 13 SCotUS Roe v. Wade shut-down insurrection on Monday the 13th! 7am, Stanton Park. Be there or be pro-Life! Don't forget to wander into the January 6th hearing room on your way back from the protest! Don't worry, Capitol Police only arrest and Prosecute Republicans! And we've already set up a bail fund (*wink-wink*), just in case.
You know you've reached peak Trumptard when the comparisons to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's trial come out...
Any idea who'll be the next Republican Scapegoat to be sacrificed on the altar of "democracy" at the Jan. 6 hearings?
I wouldn't mind the third Senator from Virginia that for some reason sits in a Missouri Senator's seat, Josh Hawley, facing some tough questions like "why do you think you're not an idiot?"
Hey, you're the one characterizing DJT as a Republican Satan, beamish. All that's wrong with the RNC rolled up in one man...
And didn't Hawley win his AG seat in MO in 2016 with over 64% of the primary vote and 58% of the general vote? He must have been "Trumpy" before "Trumpy" was cool.
So the Kavanaugh assassination attempt COMPLETELY ignored by THE Sunday News Talk Shows on CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS ! I wonder if it would have been Ignored if the Republicans illegally protests in front of Pelosi’s or Schumer’s homes which Merrick Garland and his Left winged goons refuse to acknowledge and enforce the law to prevent them? Would that be news and should the Republican’s form a committee to investigate this before the Nation on Prime Time? I’m just wondering, and curios what their excuses are this time for not covering such IMPORTANT news!
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Did anyone watch the House Jan. 6 Committee Paranoiac Conspiracy Hearing? I know I didn't...
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DeleteTitle of the video: "Democrats Sit Stunned as MTG Discusses "New Facts" That Have Come Out on Jan. 6." Worth the 9 minutes!
DeleteAs MTG points out, the Democrats seek to "mystify" and "mythologize" the events of Jan. 6. Clarity and an exposition of all the facts relating to events at the Capitol would be contrary to their purposes.
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Delete"Did anyone watch the House Jan. 6 Committee Paranoiac Conspiracy Hearing? I know I didn't.."
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It's one thing to not watch it but it's another to remain uninformed of it. Most who refused to watch it have been programmed to not watch or read anything that gives it a constructive assessment..
And so they turn to the spinmeisters and gullible groomers.
The batshit crazies like MAGAnut and Qanon queen "frazzledrip" promoting Marjorie Toddler Greene who claims that laser beams are shot from outer space by Jews to start CA forest fires and has promoted executing political opponents doesn't deserve consideration on any front.
But rather than wailing on about mistreating those innocent tourist on a peaceful stroll (while at the same time, chastising Dems for not protecting the capital) here's a couple takeaways worth consideration: Trump's further exposure of a connection and influence of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers AND documentation that multiple Republican lawmakers asked Trump for pardons immediately after the attempted coup.
Those are incriminating points. Why would these lawmakers ask for pardons? But if you want to rely on alternative facts and swig the Tucker tea, I guess they're not that bad.
Why would these lawmakers ask for pardons?
DeleteThe Trump rule is that anyone taking the 5th is guilty.....so asking for a pardon must be proof positive.
Trump's Team Kraken couldn't produce legal evidence of a stolen election, so it's appropriate the Democrat party response would be a mirror-image nothingburger.
DeleteThe trouble with accepting a pardon is that it is legally a tacit admission of guilt, as the Russian FSB asset Gen. Michael Flynn will attest when he's not out and about advocating civil war for money.
DeleteGee, I wonder why the BLM insurrectionists had a pre-paid bail fund from '20-'21. Sounds like an admission of both intent and guilt...
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@RJW. You watch your propos, I'll watch mine. Or do you watch all of MTG's propos, too? How "enlightened" you must be. :)
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Meanwhile, the June 6 Insurrection continues, and DOJ refuses to break up the crowds so that demonstrators can intimidate the Justices... and assassins gain access.
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Everyone remembers the famous murder trial of Charles Manson, where he got off scot free by screaming "what about Vietnam."
DeleteMeanwhile... in the Donbass region of Ukraine...
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Stalin could read, speak, and write German and had 14 years notice that Operation: Barbarossa was coming. Have the Russians tried turning off and turning back on their intelligence analysts?
DeleteHave the Russians tried turning off and turning back on their intelligence analysts?
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That is the laugh I needed today.
Laugh while you can, monkey boys!
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Trump's Team Kraken couldn't produce legal evidence of a stolen election because none existed.
DeleteIf there was ever an iota of evidence to present, they would've been all over it.
You can't provide evidence to a court that will not hear it.
DeleteSheesh.
Amen!, Ed!
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Ed, it wasn't that the courts wouldn't hear it but rather there was none to present.
DeleteDon't confuse the lying belching of Trump, Trump's lawyers, Rudy, Hannity, and on and on with "evidence". They can legally stand there and spoon feed you that horseshit from dust till dawn until it's the only taste you know but they can't try to sell it under oath to a judge because they'd be disbarred or criminally charged.
He failed in the lower courts and appeals courts because he had no case. All 9 Supremes, the court he stacked, agreed there was nothing there.
One of the most puzzling things to me is that Trump groomed his basket of gullibles for 4 years going from Klan rally to Klan rally making statements such as "because the only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged”. He stacked the courts with admissions of needing them in order to insure his victory in case he lost.
He made it clear. He made it obvious. He took actions to insure it. He told us over and aver again that he would not accept a loss.
His very own people didn't buy it. His hand picked courts didn't. Bill Burr didn't. Kevin McCarthy didn't.
And then came "just find me 11.780 votes" and I could fill this page with more.
It's beyond me how people who seem to be of reasonable intelligence can actually buy into such obvious horseshit.
But I suppose it really shouldn't come as any surprise as we've seen it with weapons of mass destruction, Mexico paying for a wall or even the feasibility of a wall, death panels, laser beams, etc. etc. What's 1 more Big Lie?.
The only Court left open to Donald J. Trump is the Court of Public Opinion. And as we see in the fear labels imposed upon this video, even THAT has been a priori stacked against him.
Delete...as more and more of what was once the "public" sphere has been sold off and privatized to tech billionaires, to do with as they please.
DeleteHave you gone to see 2000 Mules yet, RJW? You being so much more "enlightened" than the rest of us.
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I can't imagine that you haven't. :)
DeleteBut perhaps you have seen what <a href='https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1535082158909538304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1535082158909538304%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2Fblog%2F2022%2F06%2Fhas_msnbcs_ratings_crisis_caused_it_to_start_telling_the_truth.html">Rachel Madcow</a> is saying... ;P
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But perhaps you have seen what Rachel Madcow is saying... ;P
DeleteNaw but I've read several reviews and Factchecks.
Delete2000 Mules came up short in providing any concrete evidence and it didn't verify widespread voter fraud, regardless of how many times you watch it or how badly you want to believe it.
I know, my reviews and factchects are leftwing fake news etc. I get it.
However, it sure did fizzle now didn't it?
That if there was any conspiracy on Jan. 6 at all, it didn't originate with the MAGA crowd attending DJT's speech on the Washington Mall. It centered on the Capitol itself... and all the groups that had been largely been infiltrated by DOJ/FBI... groups like those who directed the "trial run" Whitmer coup in Michigan, whose funding levels SOARED after Jan. 6.
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Cui bene, RJW?
DeleteCui bono?
DeleteFA, how is it that Maddow suddenly has credibility when she says something you like to hear?
DeleteI think much of your intentional ignorance is that you rely too much on Tweets and Youtube clips.
I don't know who knew what in at the time of that Tweet which is why there was a need for an investigation- something that Trump and Republicans desperately didn't want to happen.
btw - I wonder if Liz Cheney is still tied to Haliburton's hip...
Deleteerratum - "Trump and Republicans desperately didn't want to happen."
Delete...cross out "and Republicans".
btw - A broken clock is right 2x daily.
DeleteLarry Hogan has no chance at the Republican nomination unless Trump gets removed from the equation.
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DeleteA Mr. Beamish from the Republican Party called and said, "Give us back our party!"
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Delete"FA, how is it that Maddow suddenly has credibility when she says something you like to hear?"
A more interesting question would be; why in her supposed credibility do you not believe it?
Warren, I'm not a fan of Maddow or other picture painting entertainers disguised as journalists.
DeleteShe is correct that the rally was a distance from the Capital attack but that doesn't prove or disprove a connection.
That's why we have congressional investigations, to get to the bottom of what happened and why. Again, this is obviously something Trump and Republicans leaders don't want the American public to find out.
There's an investigation? It looks more like a Show Trial. An investigation would have included Jim Jordan, et al, and not a priori seeded the Committee with partisan Never-Trumpers on the Republican side who've lost all credibility with the vast majority of Republican voters (ala Liz Cheney).
DeleteBut please. Get back to your media hyper-normalized political hyper-reality. I haven't had this much fun watching the surrealism of the applied paranoiac critical method in action since Salvador Dali. What do you see in this painting, RJW? Is it Trump?
At the conclusion of the House "select" committee's "investigation", we'll have heard the prosecution's case. The defense's case will have ended up edited out and placed in classified secure containers in Adam Schiff's office, much like the Robert Mueller "investigation" of Trump-Russia "collusion" and Robert Durham's investigation into the NSA database exploited "alternative construction" operations for FBI Leadership by contractor's of the DNC-partnered Perkin's Coie law firm.
Deleteerratum - "parallel construction" above.
Delete...but then again RJW, when have you ever drawn a conclusion from "evidence" and not merely parroted the conclusions of media and "authority" figures? I can't name a single time.
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After all, the pre-Trump Uni-Party order MUST be restored if "democracy" is EVER to prevail!
Deletebtw - Is it just me, or has Congress formally adopted and finally mastered the whole 2008 red Herring v. United States "parallel construction" exclusionary legal thing...?
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I know that mastering and exploiting a newly opened legal loopholes can be a real b*tch.... but if done successfully as in the legal cases of Perkins Coie, can prove to be quite the "rainmaker".
DeleteMeanwhile DOJ is prosecuting the assailants and trespassers.
DeleteThis Democrat "investigation" will not find anything the DOJ has not found.
...but it will claim to have found "responsibility" in the person of DJT. It was a "Red Queen conclusion" arrived at the very moment the "investigation" began. "Verdict now, trial LATER!"
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btw - what do you think of the events in Idaho, where they arrested the 31 non-FBI members of the "Patriot Front" faux-white supremacists group (organized and sponsored by DoJ entrapment)? I guess it's the fruity-pay-off in increased funding for "domestic terror" operations. wtg Chris Wray! Apparently the group was off to "riot" at a June Gay Pride event. Did you know that white supremacists HATED gays? I didn't.
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I'm old enough to remember when white supremacists here in the west didn't just larp, but actually blew things up, killed people, and robbed Brinks trucks to fund their criminal activities.
DeleteGlad the cops took down those perps. They really could have hurt somebody with those reinforced shin guards.
...or WORSE, said something critical of homosexuality and hurt someone's feelings at a GAY PRIDE event! The horror!
DeleteIt is both shameful and disgusting that the New York City Democrat Party Leadership has decided to allow Foreigners to Vote as if they were New York, American Citizens. Now tell me the Democrat Party Leadership has the best interests of New York City citizens in mind.
ReplyDeleteYou just can’t make this crap up. The Democrat Party Leadership, that was once for the hard working American citizens and their families, has now GONE COMPLETELY MAD.
I have to wonder what has happened to the Democratic Party that my Parents always voted with? And will the people keep voting those idiots in? Don’t they see that they get what they voted for? For example Bill Di Blasio, Chuck Schumer, Jerry Nadler, Eric Adams, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Andrew Cuomo, and the rest of those CROOKED Bunch.
I'm wondering how constitutional it is for a non Citizen to vote in any American election? And if it is, then WHAT HAVE WE COME TO?
It’s sad, and shameful that a person could be so stupid as to allow anything like this.
SO, WE DO GET WHAT WE ASK FOR!
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DeleteRemember as you watch, and Listen to these hearings, You are hearing one side of the story, without challenge, as would be done in a legally-constituted and fair committee hearing. This is how the Democrat Party operates.
ReplyDeleteEven sympathetic reviews say the Democrat Party political stunt fizzled last night.
ReplyDeletehttps://deadline.com/2022/06/donald-trump-january-6-primetime-hearing-review-liz-cheney-fox-news-1235041679/
Reviewing the main course on the merits of the salad appetizer before the main course is served does neither hungry man or connoisseur any good.
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DeleteCarnage: n; great and usually bloody slaughter or injury (as in battle)
ReplyDeleteIt was astonishing to see the word "carnage," as in "The carnage of Jan 6th," employed so often by so many hysterical people in so short a period of time. One person shot by one bullet is a very long way short of carnage.
Jayhawk... I think the number of Capitol Police who were injured, suffered broken bones, cracked skulls and lost fingers defending the building from the mob might disagree with you.
DeleteFearing for their lives as ppl spoke of killing the Speaker of the House, hanging the Vice President and Fu^#ing the place up, those officers were brutalized.
@Dave - While I'd argue that the 'back the blue' narrative was exposed to be utter bovine excrement.....I would still say that this event doesn't rise to the level of 'carnage'. We have a disturbing, and increasing habit, of jumping to the extreme with our choice of words. All that does is cheapen the definition. Uvalde was carnage. While embarrassing and pathetic, Capitol Hill was not.
DeleteCI... yeah, I hear what you're saying. If everything is carnage, then what? Carnage squared? Carnage on steroids?
DeleteWhile some may jump to "over" carnage, others tend to go low and minimize. It just seemed to me that Jayhawk was trying to minimize or even dismiss the injuries of hundreds of officers who themselves testified that they felt like they were in an ongoing brutal battle.
But kudos to you. Darn few of the folks from the right seem willing to even go as far as you did in your comments regarding "back the blue" and the events of 1/6.
......others tend to go low and minimize.
DeleteSurely you're not implying that the mob of duped tantrum-throwers could be compared to "a normal tourist visit" at the Capitol?
Or that a sitting Congressmen could utter such nonsense and not be rebuked by his colleagues?
CI... I expect that kind of "red meat" BS from lawmakers. And yes, on both sides.
DeleteWhere I struggle is with the inability or unwillingness of others who support those views to call out their own favorites.
Seriously, how can any GOP/Conservative/Republican/Right Leaning person even think of hammering us lefties for not supporting police when they refuse to admit that so many officers were attacked, brutally beaten and injured on 1/6?
And not by BLM/Antifa lefties, but by fellow conservatives.
Have they not seen the tapes? Do they think it is all made up? Are all those officers in on the conspiracy? And their doctors? And all the rest of the staffs at the various hospitals to where they were taken?
Or are they just choosing to ignore it because it makes "their side" look bad?
You summed it up in your last line.
DeletePerhaps they're still jaded from all the exaggerations in media of cop deaths from fire extinguisher beatings...
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You know what I'm talking about... hyperbolic use of terms like "carnage" or "insurrection" and "treason" to describe the events of Jan. 6. (aka LARPfest '21).
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It wasn't a coup, insurrection or domestic terrorism. The BLM protests and riots weren't an uprising.
DeleteDoesn't anybody in the US speak English anymore?
Que?
DeleteNo entiendo. LOL p;
DeleteThey may speak it, but they don't understand it.
Delete@ Layla & Ed
DeleteNo entiendo nada.
Un loro dice lo que sabe pero no sabe lo que dice como muchos aquí.
Understand, I'm working through someone who has a major in Spanish Lit.
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ReplyDeleteThe hearings were riveting. Truly this is history in the making. I watched every minute and dvd'd them to watch again later today. I happened to catch a little bit of Washington Journal this morning and, unbelievably, Republiclowns are STILL trying to minimize or even flat out excuse Trump's actions by spewing out every absurd thing you can think of. Two of them were blaming Pelosi for not protecting the Capital better! Truly, the stupid is strong with those people
I'll have what he's having. I need to escape reality too.
DeleteOh! BBS, must mean the DNC Telethon for campaign funds. When does Jerry Lewis sing "You'll Never Walk Alone"? I hope I don't have to wait until the end of the 6th installment!
DeleteThe opening hearing of the January 6 Committee was riveting, especially Rep. Liz Cheney and the way she laid out the case against Trump.
ReplyDeleteHer message was clear: TRUMP DID THIS.
I was worried there would not be enough emphasis on his guilt.
The committee needs to pound that home over and over.
Now I understand why FAUX would not air this damning evidence.
That was an indictment of Trump, whose hunger for power & inability to accept he'd lost was his only guiding light. Maybe not a criminal indictment, but if GOP embraces him in 2024, it is hard to see a way forward for them.
Even Ivanka said the election wasn't stolen will kill him.
The anger I feel at Trump intentionally endangering the lives of EVERYONE at the Capitol on 1/6, and then placing no calls, giving no orders to send forces to defend the Capitol, with Pence having to give those orders . . . there are no words. Other than TREASON!
Do you and Bluebull get the same DNC talking points memo's... cuz both your comments were "riveting".
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If only your talking points tracked to anything experienced in real life... someone might.... care.
DeleteI think they have the same dealer.
DeleteWhen those LYING Invaders were storming into our Country ILLEGALLY, and FALSELY claimed that our Boeder Patrol Men on Horseback were Whipping them Biden was furious, and lectured the Republicans for being so “Brutal” BUT when an American Supreme Court Justice is THREATENED to be KILLED, and is caught with a Gun, and a Knife, Duct Tape , etc. the Delusional Potatohead President is totally silent, AND not one word about it was said. Biden had 3 days, and several opportunities to condemn the actions and Failed to Do So.
ReplyDeleteAn armed man was arrested, and charged with attempted murder after police arrested him near the Supreme Court justice's home, and the President of these United States says ZIP! NOTHING! Where is the Media on this? All that we get is silence from both Joey and Kamala.1
And now I see that they also were Picketing around Amy Barrett’s home.
As we know, or should know that Protesting, Picketing even near the homes of any Supreme Court Justice is Against The Law.
It’s shocking how rapidly they’ve brought down our country. It no longer feels like America, but rather that we are living in a nation where our elected officials are working to the detriment of the citizens.
A memetic moment...
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Warren I love that picture - yes, put ourselves in others shoes - BUT only judge the crazy liberals is what I say! :p
ReplyDeleteIn 2019, when Donald Trump was President, the U.S. did achieve energy independence, something that had not happened since 1957.
ReplyDeleteBiden became the President and that ended on HIS first day in office and things have gone Down South ever since.
He can blame Putin, he can blame Trump, infact he can blame anyone that he wants to, BUT anyone with an once of seanse knows that it’s 100 percent HIS (Biden’s) fault. Did you expect him to actually take the blame for any of HIS failed policies?
Inflation highest since the dawn of time as democrats spend more and more making it worse.
We have a border that continued to be out of control since Biden took office.
Shortages still continuing due to democrats shutting down the economy during Covid that accomplished very little if anything.
Gas Prices are the Highest in 40 years, and going higher daily.
The exit from Afghanistan was a Gigantic Disaster.
A border that is uncontrolled with crossings off the charts since Kamala was put in charge of it
Crime is spiking across the country as crimes are reduced to misdemeanors by democrats
An Iran deal overseen by Putin who is essentially Hitler.
The Baby Formula Shortage.
The fact that we are losing our Freedoms.
Cancel Culture.
The attack on our Supreme Court Justices.
And the list goes on.
Agreed. It is all horrible. The worst of late was the attack on our Justices. There are no boundries to hold these people back. Our animals behave better than Dems do!
DeleteAs for the Protest in the Capital Building, true, the Protesters did go a bit to far, However was Breaking a Window call for Shooting, and KILLING a young Lady, who just happened to be an Air Force Veteran!
ReplyDeleteWe as American citizens have the right to protest without fear that we are going to be jailed for it. Of course, since we aren't Antifa and BLM, we go down in flames for our rightful protest. And we as Republicans do not Loot, Murder, Set Fire to Buildings, throw Bricks at the Police, cause destruction to our Towns and Cities. and we don’t threaten the Lives of Supreme Court Justices, or Protest at their Homes.
Joey isn’t trying to save the country, actually on the contrary, he is intentionally, trying to systematically cause the destruction of the country
ReplyDeleteWord has it that Trump's "Truth Social" is deleting anything related to the hearings and banning repeaters.
ReplyDeleteTruth Social was suppose to be “free from political discrimination". The hypocrisy of the cult knows no limit.
Evidence? None, as usual. Word.
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ps - Aren't you pro-censorship, all in for "responsible" private entities moderating content?
DeleteSurely you have an example of a post that was censored on Truth Social and yet posted on another platform, right?
DeleteBecause even Truth Social has minimal "community standards" like banning parody names and pornography. Right?
Delete"Evidence? None, as usual. Word."
DeleteThat "None as usual" aside FA, nope, not a bit of evidence which is precisely why I led out with "word has it".
But to the larger point, it's a continued and consistent example that "evidence" is no factor in Trump World. It always always starts with something along the lines of "prove it" leading ultimately up to either alternate facts or "it really wasn't all that bad". I can name and have named example after example and it's a movie we've seen for around 5 years.
No I can't prove it nor do I really give a flying crap. But the point is that "evidence" is irrelevant to the gullibles and like trained seals, will gladly clap their fins chanting "ork ork ork" and consume whatever flying crap their propaganda masters choose to toss their way.
Even in your multiple replies, you've already started to defend it even after questioning its validity.
Ork ork!
Sounds like you're slippin' into "The Big Lie" territory, RJW... as "evidence" seems to have little bearing on your conclusions, either....
DeleteYou talk the evidence game:
Trump's Team Kraken couldn't produce legal evidence of a stolen election because none existed.
If there was ever an iota of evidence to present, they would've been all over it.
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Don't confuse the lying belching of Trump, Trump's lawyers, Rudy, Hannity, and on and on with "evidence".
but when it comes down to the final conclusion, you always seems to end up at:
Naw but I've read several reviews and Factchecks.
...an 'oficialista' argument from "Authority" (not yourself).
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DeleteAt least I present some "alternate facts" as evidence. You produce... nothing.
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ReplyDeleteThe political AND moral courage of Liz Cheney was a shining beacon of light and TRUTH from a true conservative of character. Unfortunately the party to which she belongs has morphed into nothing but an oozing pool of putrid pus.
*-FJ blows a raspberry*
Deletelol! Democrats respect the integrity and character of Kinzinger so much they just redrew him out of his red district and he has no hope of winning, so he's not even running in 2022, and he cries and whines its all the Repubes' fault. lol
DeleteIt's a contrast between the neo-Leninist Steve Bannon's strategy of throwing shit at any and all walls to see what sticks and the Liz Cheney dignity of saying "eww you have a fist full of shit."
DeleteOne dies of monkey pox, the other has clean hands.
Mentioning walls and Steve Bannon in the same sentence was an unintentional joke.
DeleteOne dies of monkey pox, the other has clean hands.
DeleteClean hands kinda like Pilate, huh (Mathew 27:24)?
At the hearings, the crowd shouted "Release Mike Pence!" who had denounced Trump with the following kiss... 'I don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye' on January 6.
btw, beamish - Any idea who'll be the next Republican Scapegoat to be sacrificed on the altar of "democracy" at the Jan. 6 hearings?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Paul Gosar, Mo Brooks, Madison Cawthorn, and/ or Louie Gohmert.? Just curious.
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Old Greek saying, "Reward your friends. Punish your enemies!"
DeleteThe January 6 Committee Investigation = High priests of Mimetic Desire search for scapegoats...
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June 13, the hunt for scapegoats continues...
DeleteHearing schedule:
•Monday at 10 a.m.
•Wednesday at 10 a.m.
•Thursday at 1 p.m.
In Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World (1978), Girard develops the implications of this discovery. The victimary process is the missing link between the animal world and the human world, the principle that explains the humanization of primates. It allows us to understand the need for sacrificial victims, which in turn explains the hunt which is primitively ritual, and the domestication of animals as a fortuitous result of the acclimatization of a reserve of victims, or agriculture. It shows that at the beginning of all culture is archaic religion, which Durkheim had sensed. The elaboration of the rites and taboos by proto-human or human groups would take infinitely varied forms while obeying a rigorous practical sense that we can detect: the prevention of the return of the mimetic crisis. So we can find in archaic religion the origin of all political or cultural institutions.
According to Girard, just as the theory of natural selection of species is the rational principle that explains the immense diversity of forms of life, the victimization process is the rational principle that explains the origin of the infinite diversity of cultural forms. The analogy with Charles Darwin also extends to the scientific status of the theory, as each of these presents itself as a hypothesis that is not capable of being proven experimentally, given the extreme amounts of time necessary for the production of the phenomena in question, but which imposes itself by its great explanatory power.
Origin of language
According to Girard, the origin of language is also related to scapegoating. After the first victim, after the murder of the first scapegoat, there were the first prohibitions and rituals, but these came into being before representation and language, hence before culture. And that means that "people" (perhaps not human beings) "will not start fighting again." Girard says:
If mimetic disruption comes back, our instinct will tell us to do again what the sacred has done to save us, which is to kill the scapegoat. Therefore it would be the force of substitution of immolating another victim instead of the first. But the relationship of this process with representation is not one that can be defined in a clear-cut way. This process would be one that moves towards representation of the sacred, towards definition of the ritual as ritual and prohibition as prohibition. But this process would already begin prior the representation, you see, because it is directly produced by the experience of the misunderstood scapegoat.
btw - Be sure to join the Democrats June 13 SCotUS Roe v. Wade shut-down insurrection on Monday the 13th! 7am, Stanton Park. Be there or be pro-Life! Don't forget to wander into the January 6th hearing room on your way back from the protest! Don't worry, Capitol Police only arrest and Prosecute Republicans! And we've already set up a bail fund (*wink-wink*), just in case.
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DeleteYou know you've reached peak Trumptard when the comparisons to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's trial come out...
DeleteAny idea who'll be the next Republican Scapegoat to be sacrificed on the altar of "democracy" at the Jan. 6 hearings?
I wouldn't mind the third Senator from Virginia that for some reason sits in a Missouri Senator's seat, Josh Hawley, facing some tough questions like "why do you think you're not an idiot?"
Hey, you're the one characterizing DJT as a Republican Satan, beamish. All that's wrong with the RNC rolled up in one man...
DeleteAnd didn't Hawley win his AG seat in MO in 2016 with over 64% of the primary vote and 58% of the general vote? He must have been "Trumpy" before "Trumpy" was cool.
Oh wait, with Trump as President endorsing him in 2018, you must be upset that Claire McCaskill (D) lost. Too bad, beamish.
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DeleteJune 13 SCotUS Roe v. Wade shut-down insurrection on Monday the 13th!
I visited the home page for the, um, movement.
Insurrection.
Think the FBI has infiltrated this group or that anyone in Congress will "investigate" them? I don't. They're Lefties.
DeleteSo the Kavanaugh assassination attempt COMPLETELY ignored by THE Sunday News Talk Shows on CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS !
ReplyDeleteI wonder if it would have been Ignored if the Republicans illegally protests in front of Pelosi’s or Schumer’s homes which Merrick Garland and his Left winged goons refuse to acknowledge and enforce the law to prevent them?
Would that be news and should the Republican’s form a committee to investigate this before the Nation on Prime Time?
I’m just wondering, and curios what their excuses are this time for not covering such IMPORTANT news!
If You Need A Reason t To UN-Friend Me, Or UN-Follow me.
ReplyDeleteI’ll Be Happy to Give You Several.
I’m PRO- Trump, And For His Wall. I’m Pro Police, And Pro Military. I’m Pro Law, and Law Enforcement. I Believe In Only Two Genders, And I Believe That ALL Lives Matter.