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Monday, May 11, 2015

Our Twilight Zone (Commentary Added)

Consider this (click directly on the graphic to enlarge it):

Below the fold is the commentary that I posted at Infidel Bloggers Alliance on May 8, 2015:

I have a theory as to why so many who should have better sense than to take the position they take are attacking Geller and Spencer for sponsoring the event in Garland, Texas.

That the two Garland jihadists don’t “fit the profile” makes these reality deniers uncomfortable — to the point that they are blaming the messengers (Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Bosch Fawstin, and any who support these messengers). To do otherwise would mean having take an honest and objective look at the teachings of the Quran and the Haditha.

The uncomfortable reality that Islamophiles struggle with: the Garland jihadists didn’t have long criminal histories, histories of mental illness, or histories of having grown up downtrodden in poverty.

So, what did set off the would-be mass murderers?

Islam, of course.

The Garland jihadists were serious about strict shari’a and desired to be enforcers thereof. That is the reality.

The values of shari’a and Western values are incompatible.  Islam is the problem!

How do we deal with having in our midst those whose desire of the heart is to enforce strict shari'a and those who support, financially and otherwise, those who wish to enforce shari'a?


  1. "Insanity, craziness or madness is a spectrum of behaviors characterized by certain abnormal mental or behavioral patterns. Insanity may manifest as violations of societal norms, including a person becoming a danger to themselves or others....................................................................."

    Islam is no more or less than institionalized "Insanity" on a massive, world-wide scale!

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    1. Betty Battles, Sgt, USAMay 11, 2015 at 7:47:00 AM CDT

      I was going to slap the sense out of that Liberalmann, but I see somebody already beat me to it!

    2. The premise of the graphic is true. That you find it "stupid and parochial" says more about YOU than it does about "hypocritical Christians", Fascistalmann.

    3. I was going to slap the sense out of that Liberalmann"

      IMPOSSIBLE: Obviously, he has no "sense" in the first place. Now, that's all of the attention, he so craves, that he will get from me today!

    4. Don't be hard on him, everyone.....I sit here wondering what being Christian has to do with either of the images....nothing. It's just truth. So, you see, we're dealing with a person who's not quite thinking.
      Also, when Liberalmann can show us where islamists have shown outrage at beheadings, maybe he'll have a point.... sadly, that's impossible.

    5. Liberalmann's comments are deleted by a blog adminstrator as soon as those comments are detected. Please let the responses remain. They are excellent!

    6. They can hardly be judged excellent without knowledge of the original post.

    7. "They can hardly be judged excellent without knowledge of the original post."

      The "original post" was from Liberalmann; what more do you need?

    8. Duck,
      Come on, now. You can get the gist of the deleted comment by reading the responses.

  3. Our federal government, across many different administrations both Democrat and Republican, has allowed the Stinking Saudis to dump billions of dollars in this country funding Wahabbi extremism in mosques and in our prisons.

    When will we finally get a president who puts a stop to it?

    Secondly, why has no Republican politician stood up on his hind legs and questioned the wisdom of importing Muslims from wartorn regions? Many will be radicalized by what they've went through, and others will be offended by what they see here in vulgar America. We're inviting in trouble.

    Why doesn't at least on GOOP politicians stand up on his hind legs and demand that the Muslim quota be stricken and the positions be given to besieged Middle Eastern Christians?

    Our country is screwed up, and it starts with the government. We can holler all day about the damned Democrats, but how are the GOOPers any different?

    1. It isn't the President's JOB to prevent Saudi's from making religious contributions, and the federal government has LONG SINCE given up enforcing "immigration quotas". Whoever wants to, just OVERSTAYS his Visa, NO PROBLEMO! Money IS Speech. If you want to talk, $$$!

    2. I realize I am dreaming, but the State Department could quietly and politely engage the Saudis. Diplomatic types have ways of conducting such business.

    3. Ya, but I'd say you're less 'dreaming' and more hallucinating :-)
      Did you see where the Saudi King is dissing us at Camp David's upcoming talk on Iran's nukes? Odd that the media's only talking about that when I think it's five OTHER Arab countries whose leaders have also turned down the invite. They're sending 'representatives'.....I'm betting Obama now only sends 'representatives,' too. He'll get back at them; he always does.
      This is one 'diplomat' who doesn't seem to have any way of conducting real business, right?

    4. Z: This is their reaction to Obama's weak-kneed cave-in to the Iranians, who have threatened to incinerate their enemies. The Gulf nations are rightly worried. Obama is handing the Iranians billions of dollars, and his inept negotiations are advancing their nuclear program.

      Gotta give Obama and his Foreign Policy JV team credit though, he's made allies of the Sunnis and the Israelis...

    5. What cave in, Silverfiddle.

      Anything short of bombing (which you know damn well we'll have to execute) is caving in?

      What's the deal? Side with the Saudis?

    6. Ducky,
      It this particular instance, yes, side with the Saudis and our Gulf allies. Are you crazy?

      Handing them billions and giving them time to stall and play us off with "negotiations" is caving. I am not one of those calling for war with Iran and you know that.

      We can also simultaneously hold the line with the gulf states and Saudi Arabia and still quietly and diplomatically tell them to knock off funding the Wahabbi BS in our nation.

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  5. Wait...."practitioners of the so-called religion of peace" are more offended, or some leftwingers are more offended, while they castigate Geller for daring to have a privately held drawing contest? I haven't seen quite the outrage they're showing her in the media after Christians and others have been beheaded, have you?

  6. Wait...."practitioners of the so-called religion of peace" are more offended, or some leftwingers are more offended, while they castigate Geller for daring to have a privately held drawing contest? I haven't seen quite the outrage they're showing her in the media after Christians and others have been beheaded, have you?

  7. Related:

    In the world of jihad, the preparatory command is not a “borderline” activity. It is a seamless activity where the one command is followed through naturally by the second command. The myth of a borderline jihadi is just that.

    I believe that watch lists should be maintained to locate individuals who show signs of preparatory command. When these signals are identified, they should be removed from the public square prior to execution of command.

    Muslim Elton Simpson embarked on jihad with his first signal noted on a social media platform. He became a shaheed through intent, not action. He died for the cause the day he declared for the cause. His death on May 3rd in Garland, Texas is merely the visible demonstration of the death which he had already invoked. Don’t kid yourself. He was already a dead man walking.

    The above excerpt comes from "The Psychodynamics of Jihad," posted at The Last English Prince on May 10, 2015. Read the rest HERE.

    1. A woman in Maryland, I believe, was very recently sentenced to 41/2 years for militant posts on social media (interesting once again, not a Muslim name and maybe a convert).

      This guy in Garland was well known and just why he wasn't picked up is a question that should be answered before we waste time fattening the Spencer/Geller publicity machine.

    2. Duck,
      With what mosque was the woman in Maryland affiliated?

      This guy in Garland was well known and just why he wasn't picked up is a question that should be answered

      So, why wasn't he picked up?

      And why isn't that mosque with which he was affiliated under the microscope? The media microscope, that is.

    3. Duck,
      Western converts to Islam are definitely a significant problem

      Why are there so many converts to Islam?

      According to this...

      ... Hilaire Belloc, the great 20th century Catholic historian and poet, warned in 1929 that Islam would make a return to the world stage:

      We shall almost certainly have to reckon with Islam in the near future. Perhaps, if we lose our Faith, it will rise. For after this subjugation of the Islamic culture by the nominally Christian had already been achieved, the political conquerors of that culture began to notice two disquieting features about it. The first was that its spiritual foundation proved immovable; the second that its area of occupation did not recede, but on the contrary slowly expanded....

      More at the above link.

      A spiritual vacuum seeks to be filled.

    4. Winston Churchill had a good deal to say about the imminent THREAT to the WEST of ISLAM too –– a VERY long time ago.

    5. Kid,
      I have no doubt that the DHS cannot manage to keep track of the "radicals" within our borders. Why? Because there are so many "radicals"!

      Fortunately, most of these hardliners don't take action. Yet.

    6. OBL was right: 9/11 set in motion a chain reaction of great Western expense so as to thwart terrorist attacks. The economic blow dealt by OBL continues apace.

    7. FT,
      Yes, Churchill warned the world about the threat of mohammedanism.

      So did John Adams:

      …he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God.

      Thus the jihad may be regarded as Islam’s instrument for carrying out its ultimate objective by turning all people into believers, if not in the prophethood of Muhammad (as in the case of the dhimmis), at least in the belief of God. The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have declared ‘some of my people will continue to fight victoriously for the sake of the truth until the last one of them will combat the anti-Christ’. Until that moment is reached the jihad, in one form or another will remain as a permanent obligation upon the entire Muslim community. It follows that the existence of a dar al-harb is ultimately outlawed under the Islamic jural order; that the dar al-Islam permanently under jihad obligation until the dar al-harb is reduced to non-existence; and that any community accepting certain disabilities- must submit to Islamic rule and reside in the dar al-Islam or be bound as clients to the Muslim community. The universality of Islam, in its all embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political if not strictly military.

    8. Hillaire Belloc considered Islam one of the "Five Great Heresies."

      And on a related note, many Muslim converts seem to want to be more Catholic than the pope.

      For many people, joining a religion such as Islam, with its global character, history and all that, may be the first time in their lives when they feel a part of something bigger than themselves, and they go overboard.

      I think the generational recidivism, where the parents are good US citizens but the children turn into wild-eyed jihadis, is even more disturbing.

      It's been said millions of times already, but Islam needs a reformation, and it will not come from Christians, Jews and atheists. It will have to come from within, and it won't happen all at once.

      Maybe ISIS's Islamic theater of the grotesque will cause a shift. Who knows?

    9. YUP, SF! There's nothing harder to be around than a newly- reformed drunk. EVERYBODY needs a Twelve-Step Program, whether they think so or not. And NOBODY could POSSIBLY be happy EVER unless he gets involved in a Twelve-Step Program.

      Talk about TIRESOME!

      Reminds me of a dear old friend whose husband of twenty-nine years walked out on her leaving their two youngest children to be raised without a father.

      Much to her surprise (and my private delight) she felt RELIEF. At first she thought she OWED it to HERSELF to feel angry, bitter and resentful, because the local chapter of NOW had told her she MUST "get in touch with her fury," and all that happy horse manure.

      Instead, after the initial shock wore off, she told me, "I was so busy raising our five children I had no idea I was unhappy." And then we both burst out laughing.

      Much to her credit she never looked back, God bless her.

      I was so proud of her when five years after he'd left her in the lurch he tried to come crawling back a broken man, and SHE WOULDN'T HAVE HIM!

      She didn't need NOW or any Twelve-Step Program. All she needed was to realize how string and capable she had ALWAYS been.

      That's one of my favorite True Life Histories.

  8. Very cogent! As is the whole post.

  9. You can bet that after the next attack some on the left, perhaps even Obama will blame it not on the spread of ISIS but on the provocation or some other event. If Obama can blame the Benghazi murders on a video why not a cartoon? Anything but face up the truth!

  10. You can bet that after the next attack some on the left, perhaps even Obama will blame it not on the spread of ISIS but on the provocation or some other event. If Obama can blame the Benghazi murders on a video why not a cartoon? Anything but face up the truth!

    1. And just what truth would that be. You're a fringe right winger so I guess you possess all truth by definition.

      I for one will put a lot of the blame for the rise of ISIS on the Bush administration for disbanding the Iraqi army and leaving a bunch of soldiers out in the cold with no livelihood, no prospects and nothing to do but plot revenge on Shias.

      Our complete inability to understand the dynamics of the M.E. are completely lost on the fringe right who will continue to blather about Benghazi rather than admit they were instrumental in releasing a s--- storm that is nearly impossible to control.

    2. Sorry, but dirt-bags like Harry Reid, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Nancy Pelosi are NEVER going to tell the truth or even act with integrity

    3. Duck,
      Calling someone a fringe right winger isn't contributing to the discussion. I know that you can make your point without resorting to calling names.

      blather about Benghazi rather than admit they were instrumental in releasing a s--- storm that is nearly impossible to control

      Identify they, please. Do you mean the Bush administration? I think that you do, but you could also be referring to the fringe right, a phrase in the same sentence of your comment.

      The Bush administration isn't really the point of this blog post.

      Furthermore, I, for one, have never claimed that the Bush administration "understood" the Middle East.

      Maybe the West should just drop an Iron Veil and let the Middle East fend for itself. The West's record for success in the Middle East is terrible.

    4. "You're a fringe right winger "

      If you ever refer to [me] please do not use the phrase as above. I'm not "fringe" I'm completely into the "right" wing so come up with something stronger when you wish to show-off your pseudo, abstruse nonsense.

    5. Great response to that Missfit.

    6. Ducky has it partly right.

      Yes, Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld stupidly (or nefariously) lit this fuse, but Obama's College Girl Warlord Club and Foreign Policy JV Team have further fueled the conflagration, and Benghazi is one piece of that.

      Hillary Clinton failed to approve adequate security. That is an established fact, and that alone disqualifies her for office. Her incompetence and callous disregard for human life went right along with tipping over the Kadaffi regime and then tittering publicly about it. The country is still in flames, and is now a found of jihadism spilling out into the surrounding countries.

      So, Hillary, Obama and the Democrats made the same exact mistake Bush did in Iraq. Further, they armed and trained the "good terrorists" in Syria, who then switched sides and joined ISIS, further fueling the crisis.

      If we're going to discuss US foreign policy failures, lets not leave out the current gang of amateurs in the White House.

    7. Question Silver.

      Why is the sory of the Bin Laden raid not front page news in America?
      Why did Sy Hersh have to go to a British magazine for publication?

      Why are we wasting so much time over a dipstick like Pam Geller when there is serious news at hand?

    8. You mention Sy Hersh and Serious news in the same breath?

      I'm disappointed. I pegged you as many things, but not a nutty fringer.

  11. SF,
    Why doesn't at least on GOOP politicians stand up on his hind legs and demand that the Muslim quota be stricken and the positions be given to besieged Middle Eastern Christians?

    Because the GOP is beholden to the Saudis' deep pockets?

    The Wahhabism in the mosques here is well funded -- as you pointed out. Indeed, the rise of Islamic terrorism is directly related to the importation of Wahhabist clerics and Wahhabist Islamic scholars, the latter at universities all over America.

    We are now reaping the harvest of the importation of Wahhabist leaders. Just how many American Muslims -- young American Muslims -- are Wahhabists?

  12. A must-read!

    Academia today:

    MIT’s Muslim chaplain raised money for al-Qaeda groups.


    Suheil Laher [MIT's chaplain starting in 1998] came to MIT as a student in 1990 and by 1998, he became the MIT Muslim chaplain. By the year 2000, he also became president of a Muslim charity based in Boston called Care International, which was founded by Osama Bin Laden’s mentor Abdullah Azzam and was originally called “Al Kifah Refugee Center.” Care International was, in essence, a fundraising vehicle for mujahideen. After the leader of Al Kifah in Brooklyn, “the Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel-Rehman, was convicted for his role in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, Boston’s Care International took over as Al Qaeda’s main base in the United States. Laher, then, was quite an important figure in Al Qaeda’s leadership here. His perch at MIT meant that he had easy access to the best American Muslim minds – and their world-class technical skills.

    As a religious scholar and an engineer, Laher was both the spiritual and technological leader of Care International. He pioneered the Jihadist use of the new Internet medium to fundraise and recruit for Al Qaeda causes online. Laher’s personal website prominently featured Abdullah Azzam’s notorious call to Jihad, a tract called “Join the Caravan:”


    While Laher officially stepped down from his post as MIT chaplain in 2014, he continues to preach at mosques in the Boston area, including the Tsarnaev’s own mosque, the Islamic Society of Boston – giving a sermon there as recently as May 1, 2015….

    More at the link -- including video.

  13. Firdawsi?! I love Firdawsi! I attended an artists' event at TCU several years ago and the topic was the Shahnama of Firdawsi!


  14. AOW,

    An activist law professor and our idiotic legal system that permits such frivolities are to blame. I've read up on this, and there are no protesting Muslim students to be found.

    Go check out these links:




    There are Muslim agitation groups out there making such demands, but apparently not in this particular case.

  15. That suit is about three years old.

    It wasn't brought by a Muslim but by a well known crank.
    It went nowhere.

    It is similar to the flap about crucifixes at Boston College.
    The crucifixes are still there.

    Breitfart gets them all riled up for nothing once again.

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  18. "Breitfart"...gad, will you ever grow up, Ducky? What's that supposed to do for you?
    Look.....you're the first person to call Christians names and ridicule them... but GOD FORBID anybody even suggests muslims might be making ridiculous law suits or might even be hoping to kill people.
    Maybe you're just not paying attention? You keep negatively exaggerating all that's said here by conservatives then exaggerating positively anything you have. We GET IT.."Muslims can do NO WRONG...move on, there's no story here..blame Christians and blame Bush." Good luck with that.
    I so wish that you and other leftwingers could just discuss things rationally and stop dividing everything as black and white; it shuts down discussion...and discussion is what made this country great.
    Maybe read Liberal Kirsten Powers' new book on the constant shutting down of thought by the Left?
    Maybe that'll help you?

  19. Do you understand that it might be better for muslims if they didn't bring these suits..? That you're ignoring legitimate ones to make YOUR point?
    Do you understand that 'getting riled up' might be prudent in keeping people aware? You can dream on that muslim butchers suddenly coudln't cut pork (since 9/11), and muslim cab drivers suddenly just couldn't take on fares with booze with them (since 9/11), you can ignore a lot of things...but it's silly.

  20. There is only ONE sensible solution to ALL this incredible barrage of bothersome BS:




    Those who would be kind to the cruel are sure to be cruel to the kind."

    "Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."

    ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809)


    However illegal, impolitic, inadvisable, unconstitutional, un-American, immoral or impracticable others claim it to be I will maintain that position till my dying day.

    When the Handwriting on the Wall sends a clear, uncompromising message, and STILL we fail to heed its stern warning, we DESERVE to be ECLIPSED.

  21. Z, get a clue.

    Some intern at Breitfart was scouring the internet for news and came up with this three year old crank suit.
    N.B. -- there was NO Muslim involved in the suit at any time. Got that.
    The clowns at Breitfart screwed up which is their habit.

  22. ME "get a clue"? Do you GET that one case isn't important and that's not what anybody here's hanging their hat on?

    Again "Breitfart"..you're like a school kid who suddenly found the word 'shit' and can't wait to use it. "oh goody!"

    Ducky.....don't do this anymore: Don't just glean the one thing you feel superior about (like this ONE case that supposedly isn't true) and negate everybody else's comments. It's sad and doesn't help.
    Get it through your head that I may seem like the ONLY blogger who doesn't hate ALL MUSLIMS, but I don't believe most hate them all, and it's immature and utterly ridiculous to keep denying that terrorism is mostly ISLAMIST. Gad.

  23. As far as I can tell, z, you have met some former Muslims who have converted and are convinced that they represent a significant segment of Islam, the good Muslims.

    The point I would make is that there are serious issues out there and the less time spent with joke sites like Breitfart of Psycho Geller's site the sooner we get to them.

    I notice that you don't disagree this was a nothing suit and Breitfart completely screwed up.

  24. I know one muslim convert who I've written about on my blog and I know of missionaries who know thousands in Africa.

    Please don't talk for me: muslim converts to Christianity are not any huge number in this country. Not at all; and I have never said that. EVER.
    I believe good muslims are on the streets every day, attending less-than-radical mosques, doing business, raising their kids.
    Sadly, I know they don't read the koran, that the imams are the instructors...as Priests and nuns still are for some Catholics; not all.
    When muslims take the time to really investigate the koran, I believe they'll be surprised. But I DO NOT expect them to leave the faith of their families. They'll ignore those parts and obviously don't practice them, don't believe all Christians have to die...not by a very long shot.
    Will they become converts? Who knows:? Will they continue to live as muslims and pray to God? Fine, that's not threatening to anybody.
    Who CARED about muslims living next door before 9/11, anyway? Nobody seems to answer that question when I've asked. Because the answer is "Nobody cared...they're neighbors, so what?"
    It's important that we rally good muslims to march against the evil ones...very important.

    I don't give a darn about that "nothing suit" and I'd NEVER believe Breitbart doesn't 'screw up' from time to time........no more than I'd champion Brian Williams or Dan Rather or the loons at msnbc. (any of them finally paid those taxes yet??)
    That's not even relevant...what's relevant is much of what I've said in comments above about Muslims since 9/11. What's relevant is very VERY few terrorists today aren't muslim.

    Geller and Breitbart aren't "joke sites" any more than terrorism is a JV Team.

  25. Who is that guy? Nobody knows him. I'm supposed to buy anything Salon says? I laugh at most of the stuff I read there and that's where you point me? YOU, who constantly slams FOX for bias (tho you say you don't watch and keep ignoring my constant reminder of how many liberals they have on their panels) and you recommend SALON to me? :-)

    Look; Conservatives don't need this guy or anybody else to tell us why we resent and even regret the Left; look what's happened to our standing in the world, how many people don't have jobs, how our healthcare is a (complete) mess (don't believe what you're hearing...talk to any doctor in W. LA or NYC or anywhere else), how our borders are still porous, how my state's drying up because the left loves a 3" smelt more than they love people, etc etc.

  26. the bickering really gets boring and nasty....have a good day

  27. From the Salon article:

    the courts have been successfully packed by conservatives and centrists during the last 30 years

    Is that so? Really?

    I see that the author of that article in Salon won the 2014 Hillman Prize for Opinion and Analysis Journalism.

    the Hilman Prize:

    It is given to "journalists, writers and public figures who pursue social justice and public policy for the common good".

    The author of the article has been called one of the "leading and most admired commentators" of the progressive blogosphere. Not an unbiased source, IMO.

  28. Z,
    Look; Conservatives don't need this guy or anybody else to tell us why we resent and even regret the Left...

    No kidding!

  29. AOW...am SO surprised about the author of that piece's creds! Hilarious.

    And yes....what courts are packed with conservatives? the 9th? :-)

    So much BS in that piece...Salon should be a comic magazine...like MAD MAGAZINE.

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    1. Have you heard about Kirsten Powers' new book...? She's a LIBERAL and has written a book on how Liberals are killing free speech in America...good stuff; of course, we've been saying this for the last 10 years or so.
      “The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech”
      Liberals are freaking out, suggesting she's not in the 'real' Democrat party! Man, they simply can't STAND anybody who doesn't think exactly like they do. I use the term 'think' hesitatingly.

    2. Z: But Powers goes on the hated "FAUX SNOOZE," and she occasionally deviates dangerously from progressive orthodoxy and thinks for herself, so like Juan Williams, she is a turncoat and not a true liberal.

      Her and Juan's traitorous flirtations with independent thought are even more galling to leftwing progressivism's all-white power structure because they are a protected class, and should therefor never ever ever make any common cause with anyone to the right of Karl Marx.
      //SARC OFF

    3. Freaking out?

      I had never heard of the woman.

    4. I don't read anything controversial in the article, AOW.

      The conflict is between those like Geller who feel that they can hide behind free speech to push half truths and hatred.
      Yes, they can do that but they should not expect it will be done without some criticism.

      And yes, it will attack the jihadi freaks. That's a damn problem that IS NOT going to be solved by the likes of Spencer and Geller who feel that a criticism of Islam mandates humiliation.

      Titling an article "The Left Has Islam ALL Wrong" implies necessarily that there is a position that has it ALL correct and he knows what is is.
      That's a pant load and stifles discussion from the start.

    5. Duck,
      Just because something contradicts your worldview does not make that something "a pant load."

  31. Who is he?

    Never heard of The Bell Curve ?


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