According to THIS ARTICLE in the Washington Times, I have the following to look forward to:
...In the section on housing they want to know details about your property, how many rooms you have, whether you have a mortgage and how much it is, what types of energy you use and how much it costs, how many cars you own, what your property taxes are, how much your property is worth, the size of your lot … and on and on.We received the American Community Survey yesterday afternoon and received a follow-up notice (Threat?) in today's mail.
And that’s just the beginning. For each person in the house it demands to know educational history, ethnic composition, where they lived a year ago, what sort of health insurance they have, what hearing difficulties, what vision problems; whether they have difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions due to physical, mental or emotional condition; difficulty walking or climbing stairs; difficulty dressing or bathing; difficulty doing errands such as shopping due to physical, mental or emotional condition; marital status; complete marital history, how many spouses, when; children and grandchildren; information on disabilities; employment info, where, when, and two whole pages of work and income inquiry....
Lucky, lucky, lucky AOW household!
I will tackle completing the survey on Monday. This weekend, I have better things to do than hopping to it on the orders of The Nanny State!
Why would you even bother?
ReplyDeleteYou too?
ReplyDeleteThrow it in the trash. You're not in any way required to complete the ACS survey.
ReplyDeleteYes. Throw it away. Ignore the demands of the Census Bureau. Screw them, they can do nothing. C/I above is right, follow that advice. Nothing to worry about. These are not the droids you're looking for, nothing to see here, move along. Really. Just throw it away. Trust me.
ReplyDeleteYes. Throw it away. Ignore the demands of the Census Bureau. Screw them, they can do nothing. C/I above is right, follow that advice. Nothing to worry about. These are not the droids you're looking for, nothing to see here, move along. Really. Just throw it away. Trust me.
ReplyDeleteSomewhere -- not on the documents I received -- I read something about a $5000 fine.
ReplyDeleteAccording to information at the bottom of page 2 of this pdf file:
ReplyDeleteCan respondents be fined for not completing the ACS?
The ACS is conducted under the authority of Title 13, U.S. Code
(U.S.C.), Sections 141 and 193, and response is required by law.
According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined
not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559,
.
in effect amend Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers froma fine of not more than $100 to not more than $5,000.
Thersites,
ReplyDeleteDo I understand correctly that you got an ACS too?
The ACS site also says "If we don't hear from you online, by mail, or if you leave questions blank, we may call you."
ReplyDeleteThe Department of Commerce doesn't retain a law enforcement arm where it concerns the Census Bureau.
CI,
ReplyDeleteThe Department of Commerce doesn't retain a law enforcement arm where it concerns the Census Bureau.
Good to know. Thanks!
We received an ACS, and did not return it. We also didn't receive any follow up phone calls. Perhaps my situation was unique, but in asking around and reading others experiences, it seems pretty universal that nobody has been fined...just bothered by Census takers.
ReplyDeleteI'd send it back with a post-it-note written in brown ink telling them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
ReplyDeleteDARE them to fine you, and if they try take it all the way up to SCOTUS.
SOMEONE has to STAND UP to these bastards. If we don't, the next thing you know they'll be sending government goon squads around demanding that we strip, bend and spread so they can photograph the inside of each orifice of the body with a camera installed at the end of a "probe." There will be two big heavily armed goons to grab you strip you, and hold you down, and another to take the pictures.
You think I'm kidding?
I am not.
Better to die fighting than live capitulating to creeping tyranny.
Indeed we did. Mrs. FJ answered it, as I refused to do all the research that it required. I did get called and threatened with additional questions a few times, but our phone has a very bad connection.
ReplyDeleteDO what CI and FT say, but first be sure to wipe yourself several times with each page of it, and then tear it up, and send the fragments back to the goddam "bureau."
ReplyDeleteDick Wilde
Thersites,
ReplyDeleteI haven't even looked at the survey. I wonder if there is a box to check for "I don't know at this point in time"?
If you remember the last census forms, this same type scare was out there. But many only answered the pertinent questions, like how many in the household, etc. and left the rest blank.
ReplyDeleteWe did have someone follow up, came to our house. I talked to him, he asked questions and I have him one word, non-committal answers and he finally got the idea and left.
No I did not allow him inside, he stood outside and I cracked the storm door just an inch or so.
I heard from many who did the same thing with the questions on the census form
I've never heard anything about this one.
Debbie
They ask a whole lot of questions that THEY have better and more accurate answers to than I could ever possibly supply. After a while I say, they can Google the answers faster than I can.
ReplyDeleteThersites,
ReplyDeleteI am not going to spend a lot of time looking up answers to questions now that I've previewed the questionnaire on line. I'll either guesstimate or leave the answer blank. So there!
Debbie,
ReplyDeleteI'll know more about the form I am supposed to complete when I access it online via the web key sent to me by the Census Bureau.
But from what I've already seen online at the Census Bureau's web site, this document is waaaaay too intrusive!
The ACS even asks how much we pay every year for homeowners' insurance. Gimme a break! I have a bundled insurance policy with one annual premium for the house we live in, the house we lease out, and our vehicles.
I will have time to access the form tomorrow when the furnace people arrive to install a new furnace. The installation will take a least 8 hours.
1. Place these forms in your restroom, next to the toilet paper, ready to place in a stamped envelope.
ReplyDelete2. Eat some barbecue ribs.
3. Wait until you have to excrete, and to clean up requires multiple wipes.
4. Use each page of the ACS instead of toilet paper.
5. Fold neatly, seal in the envelope, and mail it back.
LOL I see me and FT had the same idea.
ReplyDeleteTell them to ask the NSA...they already have this info.
ReplyDeleteThe Constitution says that the census is only for counting people. Therefore, you only need to tell them how many people are in your household. Period.
P.S. How ya been ;-)
Exile!
ReplyDeleteHow many years has it been since we visited each other's blogs?