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Wednesday, March 30, 2022

About Ukraine

(hat tip to Deplorable Bloggers Alliance for the video in this blog post)

I find myself increasingly uneasy as I watch the push for intervening in Ukraine, because when I find myself in agreement with certain mainstream media and with certain politicians, I take a step back and ask myself, "AOW, what important facts are you missing?" 

The YouTube blurb for the video below:
Lara Logan blows away every Liberal Sleepy DemonRat NWO Shill on earth with Truth about NWO/Fake News Liars/Political Liars/Medical Liars/Putin/Zelensky/Lies About Ukraine etc. Exposes the actual Nazi's operating out of Ukraine all wearing Satanic-Occult Nazi Regalia in the Azov Corps of Ukrainian. Gives people a glimpse of the real history of the region and why everything the 'news' is telling the world is a LIE...
About ten minutes and worth your time: 


Is Lara Logan correct, in part of in whole, about her assertions?

On the other hand, we have this...Volnovakha: America Closes Her Eyes.

72 comments:

  1. Well, it's certainly the case that everybody is spinning the crisis to best advance their own interests, and you can clearly see what set of interests Lara Logan is serving here. But let us never forget that there is, at the center of it all, a real invasion with real bombs and real deaths. The neo-nazi element in Ukraine (and further afield in Eastern Europe) is a real factor, but Russia undoubtedly exaggerated it in his transparently ahistorical "justification" for invasion (and of course, Russia has neo-nazis in her midst too, some of which are funded by Putin's own team in order to generate a distracting political spectacle). I struggle to think of any hypothetical justification that could excuse Putin's aggression.
    I don't know how much outside help Zelenski had to get elected, but I do know that his predecessor Yanukovych was Putin's puppet, and Russia has been belligerent towards Ukraine since he was removed by popular uprising. I myself don't have much patience with all the giddy fawning over Zelenski, but I can't fault him and other media-savvy Ukranians playing up to the stereotypes that they know will be attractive to Westerners. They're situation is desperate, and they're making the best use of the available tools.

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    1. ...a "popular" uprising who's political outcomes were coordinated with the US State Dept officials and VP, and resulting in armed uprising in eastern Ukrainian provinces.

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    2. You could well be right, but I don't think Yanukovych's unpopularity on that scale could have been engineered by any outside agent.

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    3. How about a Ukrainian former President with an American wife who was a former State Department official?

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    4. btw - Was Trump's "unpopularity" engineered? Biden's?

      Wasn't Zelensky a former TV star/actor? Where'd his popularity come from, do YOU think?

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    5. No, trump and Boden earned their unpopularity fair and square. Zelensky was a popular entertainer, right? Are you accusing the CIA of producing East European TV?

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    6. MSNBC, CNN, et al didn't push manufactured "Trump-Russia" stories ad infinitum? Who knew?

      Oligarch's don't run Ukrainian TV stations? I'm shocked!

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    7. Chomsky's wrong? Consent isn't "manufactured"? Sounds like a new bestseller if you write it, jez.

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    8. btw - Read the New York Times for official US State Department leaks, and the Washington Post for official US government Intelligence Community (IC - CIA/NSA) leaks.

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    9. The New York times and the Washington Post are tools of the government establishment

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    10. The US government's Pravda and Ivestiya

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    11. Since Watergate, oficialismo has become the primary "business product" of journalism. Manufactured consent.

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    12. ...which is why "pay walls" are oxymorons today and seem intended to create the impression that their products, when consumed, have "value".

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    13. Phases of the Image:

      1. It Reflects Reality
      2. It Masks Reality
      3. It Masks the Absence of Reality
      4. It has no Relation to Reality Whatsoever


      - Baudrilliard

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    14. If the CIA produced Servant of the People, they're in the wrong business.

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    15. Budgets matter... except when they don't. ;)

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  2. Lara Logan blamed the Rothchilds for something or other, so she is obviously a crazy anti-Semite. /s

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  3. The Democrat failure to see this hysteria as a mirror image of the Bush-Cheney war hysteria of 20 years ago, complete with jingoism, and rabid "with us or with the terrorists/Russians" is stunning.

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  4. I'm saddened at Lara Logan's decline. I well remember being extremely smitten with her, physically and intellectually, when I lucked out being on her escort element when she covered the Doura area of Baghdad during the surge. She was smart, funny and very switched on....then.

    I'm also intrigued at the overemphasized coverage of an understrength battalion of the Ukrainian Territorial Forces [Azov]. Neo-Nazi's deserve the scorn they receive, but were America invaded and fighting for her national sovereignty, we would be fielding several 'Azov Battalions'.

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    1. CI,
      I just found your comment in the spam folder. I have no idea as to why.

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    2. CI,
      Have you changed? Or has she?

      Just askin'.

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    3. Appreciate you saving the comment from SPAM.

      My political views have been pretty constant, as well as being a card carrying Libertarian, since around 2000.

      Logan, on the other hand, has a demonstrable body of work, that has clearly taken a turn.

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    4. As I understand the news reports coming out of Mariupol, what's left of the Azov Battalion (which wasn't much to begin with) has been wiped out by artillery fire.

      What I'm not prepared to accept is the idea that Russia invaded the Ukraine over around 900 people cosplaying Nazi soldiers. Especially when their political ideology while anti-Russia was always anti-EU and anti-NATO as well. Their political party barely got 2% of the vote, not even enough to win seats in the Ukrainian government. A non-factor in every sense of the term.

      While it's funny to think 900 people gave Putin Operation: Barbarossa flashbacks and a stream of urine in his diaper, even I resist thinking Russians are that stupid. And I don't think Russians are much smarter than the oatmeal I ate this morning.

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    5. ^ +1

      Narratives can sprout like a beanstalks when one has useful idiots to traffic them, as we do here at home.

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    6. The Azov's were "policing" the eastern Ukrainians provinces under civil war and winning Ukrainian "hearts and minds". /s

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    7. I go to gun shows here in America, and I know lots of people who think the movie Red Dawn (the original version) is a how-to guide to resisting a Russian invasion. These people would vote for a stale bag of Cheetos if it claimed to be Republican.

      As you said above, these people would be our "Azov Battalions." Even if they weren't overt fashy, they'd be called Nazis because that's the poison gas to deploy in conversations that don't mean jack anyway.

      When the SHTF, we're not going to line up with the ACLU or PETA.

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    8. As for Laura Logan... she seems changed by being groped and stripped naked by an Egyptian mob. It hasn't stopped her from emphasizing her cleavage on TV (nor should it, I guess) but her reporting just isn't as substantive as it used to be.

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    9. The infotainment media complex introduced the term information silo, and it is an apt phrase and a real thing. What the infotainment media complex perhaps doesn't realize is that they themselves have succumbed to it,on all sides.

      I doubt there is much meaningful intellectual interchange between the different ideological tribes of the pundatocracy class

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    10. Her reporting isn't compelling because her exposure has been limited. She was shadow-banned for 'wrong-think' and as a 'victim' of Islamic misogeny, her voice became too "dangerous" for the progressive lights of multiculturalism.

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    11. Fukiyamaist thought trumped Huntingtonian once again.

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    12. She should button up her shirt and do the 700 Club circuit with all that talk of the occult. Maybe host a good ol' fashioned ironic burning of Ozzy Ozbourne albums and what Zelenskyy says about the NWO when you play his voice backwards.

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    13. Life is a museum. If she wants to side-boob for attention she's going to get it. For extra credit, find a video of her where she's not selling a lap dance.

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    14. It's crazy how the Trump administration covered up the nuclear annihilation of Honolulu.

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    15. It was a Korean missile launch... before they found the "range".

      Now, "Fire for effect!"

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    16. Actually she sounds like she didn't want to remind people that Trump began negotiating his surrender to the Taliban in 2018, and wanted to hold the official ceremony on American soil at Camp David on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. But then John Bolton vomited on his desk and people started running for the exits knowing full well they wanted no part of his administration even if by some miracle enough people would have voted for him to make his Green Bay sweep coup attempt unnecessary.

      The thing about hallucination diaries is there's no real way to make other people enjoy them.

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    17. Those damned Deep Staters at the National Weather Service can't hide the hurricanes forever.

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    18. Hurricanes are no match for a sharpie.

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    19. Better to target a hurricane with a Sharpie than a nuke.

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    20. ...not are President's for the Deep State.

      ...heck, Biden's proven that the only function of a President is to "sell their message". They even built a studio for him to practice in in his Rehoboth basement, before the election.

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    21. We just need to figure out how to get along with the 74 million FSB agents among us.

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    22. ...one day they'll find one who can stick the their scripts and talking points.

      The old Deep State University Discourse is quickly becoming the Capitalist Discourse. Oligarchy uber Alles!

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    23. I don't "party" with Mitch McConnell's Decepticons, anymore beamish... and you're right, I'll never reap the rewards of latte capitalism, either. :(

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    24. SO, you really think post-humanism will be good for the planet, beamish? Although, I'll admit, that robot p*ssy can be programmed to not talk back, so there is that...

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    25. Robot labor will stop all those caravans of Mexicans from coming up here and taking our robot repair jobs.

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  5. A lot at stake here - including what we will be shelling out for a loaf of bread in coming months.

    Here are a couple of images of Azov Battalion:

    https://thelastenglishprince.wordpress.com/2022/03/30/cross-pollination-of-thought-from-always-on-watch/

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  6. When trying to deal with the Machiavellian nature of politicians -and politics in general-, it becomes apparent; the full story "is" unknown and unknowable. Outright lies, shaded truths and deception become the coin of the realm.
    Any cop can tell you that three different eye witnesses will see three different events, each shaded by the perception and prejudices of those involved.
    In short; This is the life we live in and these are the cards we're given.
    Play your cards well.

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  7. Layla,
    Problematic is the UN Food Program reliance on Russian and Ukrainian wheat harvests to feed individuals in Syria, and across the African continent. Starvation is stalking millions; but as yet they are unaware.

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  8. Russia and Ukraine supply about a third of the world's wheat consumption, the US cranks out most of the other two-thirds. Food supplies around the world are usually stockpiled 90 days. We'll know some time in May if we're going gluten free.

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  9. We are in the end of days, not denying that. Yes, Tammy we will be shelling out for a loaf of bread in the coming months and it will cost more than gas. People need to read their Bible, in particular Daniel, who gives insight into Revelation, and definitely read Revelation. If it were not for my hope and faith in God, I would not want to be in this world. It is ugly and not the world I grew up in.

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    1. Title of the link that FJ left just above:

      U.S. Intel and National Security Apparatus Make Moves to Protect Joe Biden From Hunter Biden Laptop Fallout
      March 30
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      Ukraine related?

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    2. That's a leading question, counselor.

      It's related oin the sense that it is what the war is all about. Government corruption at the highest levels of government in the Ukraine, Russia, and US, and a contest for the spoils from that corruption. Joe needs to ensure his family's "cut".

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    3. AOW,

      I am sure that it is another cover-up to protect Biden, not because of Hunter, but because of Bidens own involvement.

      So, Joe Biden -- the father of Hunter Biden -- lets his son become his fall guy. Why does that not surprise me. They will do and sacrifice anything and anyone for the love of money and their innumerable sins.

      I thank God I had a good father who would never do such heinous acts and teach me to be like that. The Biden's are evil.

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  11. Check out Oliver Stone's documentary Ukraine on Fire. Given Stone's own biases, I'm not entirely sure what to make of it, but it adds context that overlaps Logan's report. The narrative of the outside provacateur is becoming a theme. (Perhaps even carried out domestically last Jan 6.) Sufficient American fingerprints to support an accusation of interference. Perhaps someone here who has seen it and is watching events closer than I can comment.

    And for SF - old Soviet joke: there is no Pravda in Izvestiya, and no Izvestiya in Pravda. Translation: there is no Truth in the News and no News in the Truth.

    BAYSIDER

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    1. Lol - I never heard that one.

      "outside provacateur" What are you saying???

      We would never do anything like that! /s

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