Warren, you did yourself this week with those first two photos! Dumb with woman yep! Hello Jill.... and Do another line? Wow that was rich and I bet the sucker still does! lol :)
Gym of the week- "We Republicans refused participation in the committee’s investigation for the express purpose of enabling us to cast it as a partisan exercise and therefore illegitimate. -----Kevin McCarthy on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show Wednesday night.
Notice how poor, dumb Ronald passed this off as a direct quote? Its not.
It's a typical leftwing rewording/mischaracterizing in order to make a Republican mundate statement into a hate totem.
Here is the actual exchange of what was actually said, from the same article dimwit Ronald took the "quote" from:
HANNITY: Once they pulled Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, why didn’t you replace them with other people? In retrospect, should you have?
McCARTHY: No, not at all. Because nothing would be different. Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power. They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals. All they would be is, the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process.
This is why we should take nothing the left says at face value.
Leftwing progs like Ronald are either liars deliberately spreading propaganda, or they are too stupid to parse an article correctly, or they unthinkingly lap up leftwing propaganda, apply no critical thinking, and simple-mindedly regurgitate it.
I'll concede Silver, I should have recognized Greg Sargent's wording of "the California Republican ESSENTIALLY came right out and said" rather than using that "essentially" assessment as a verbatim quote.
It doesn't take a genius to read between the lines of the actual wording:
HANNITY: Once they pulled Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, why didn’t you replace them with other people? In retrospect, should you have?
McCARTHY: No, not at all......................the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process.
And McCarthy also said: “If you allow that to go forward, people would think this is a fair process, it’s the minority having a say. No, we would not.”
There isn't much of a logical conclusion other than exactly what the WAPO OPINION article implied: "a refusal to participation in the committee’s investigation for the express purpose of enabling us to cast it as a partisan exercise and therefore illegitimate", something the propaganda machine water totters such as yourself have peddled on demand.
I do screw up sometimes just like earlier this week I said Bannon would be behind bars by the end of the week. I didn't take into consideration a delayed sentencing.
On another note, when The New York Post Editorial Board comes out with an article saying "Trump’s silence on Jan. 6 is damning", you just kinda have to take pause.
There you go again. You have to chop it up to make it prove whatever pointless point you're failing to make...
McCARTHY: No, not at all. Because nothing would be different. Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power. They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals. All they would be is, the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process.
The leftwing whine collapses when you see the whole quote. Context is everything, and propagandists understand that very well.
You really should try applying some critical analysis to what you read, and I suggest you expand the range of what you consume.
What I left out: "Because nothing would be different. Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power. They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals."
Okay, so of the word salad and the political word speak fillers I left out, let's break that down for relevance.
I should know better than trying to rationalize with a deflective reality denialist but here we go.
"Because nothing would be different".
If you previously allowed bipartisan participation, nothing would change. Your point?
"Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power."
Wasn't that still the case before Banks or gym room groping Jordon? What's changed? I mean, the majority is still the majority and the minority is still the minority.
"They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals."
Well, aside from that being proven false, how is it that Banks or young boy skivvy grabbing Jordon had some magic wan to override Dems from excluding Rs in interviews? They didn't have any more then than any replacement would now.
It doesn't add up my friend. You don't add up. Your grasping.
McCarthy's blaring admission was: "No, not at all......................the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process." All those fill ins fish tosses to the fin clapping gullibles comes up short in any constructive analysis of the interview.
But you don't like to respond to reasonable questions that challenges your narrative. You deflect realities that you don't find comfort in. You, rather than accept your sunburned face and eyes after a long day of naked sun glaring, chose to demean anyone standing in the shade who offers you a suggestion.
The fundamental argument was over the rules. Pelosi herself said her action of rejecting the GOP committee members was unprecedented, and it was.
Denying minority members access, subpoena power, and the ability to cross-examine are also unprecedented. This was a pre-planned propaganda show from the beginning. Saying that doesn't deny the produced revelations, albeit one-sided and not challenged.
Still and all, the Democrats could be doing the GOP a huge favor, if they have produced enough to turn enough GOP and moderate voters away from Trump.
SF, it isn’t unusual for you to declare victory when your desired outcome comes up short.
McCarthy clearly admitted that participation would be viewed as fair or legitimate- which was his rationale of pulling out after Jim and Gym were blocked.
I think we’ve previously gone back and forth on why Pelosi rejected their nominations but we can revisit that if you like.
And yes, she did say that "The unprecedented nature of January 6th demands this unprecedented decision," .
I think the problem with the MAGA nuts and right wing media tea guzzlers is that they haven’t come to terms with the unprecedented nature of Jan 6. It was Antifa one day, a peaceful tour the next, the FBI the next and back to a tour guide the next. And they’ll likely find some Newsmax or Alex Jones to tell them to believe something to their liking. I’m even reading some pushing the notion that Trump was grabbing the steering wheel because he wanted to go back to tell them to stop but the secret service wouldn’t let him. Must be that “shoot someone dead on 5th avenue” thing?
Turn enough GOP and moderates away from Trump? We’re seeing some of that with seniors. Minority voters aren’t looking to good for Dems. Trump’s become the Grand Wizard of the KKK types so they’re not going anywhere. Lots of scenarios and political wind shifts.
I’d say pulling Trump supporters away would be a benefit for Dems. They were gonna vote R anyway. Voter turn out is where it’s at.
So far, it was a violent demonstration, based upon DOJ charges and convictions.
The problem with you, Ronald, is you slurp up the leftwing propaganda, stake out your position based upon it, and then fail at defending it.
I'll restate: The Demogog majority and the Repube minority had a dispute over rules of the committee. Dems did not want the GOP hijacking the proceedings, and the Repubes saw it as the Dems inviting them in as window dressing only, not actually allowing them to have any power. Repubes did not want to be cardboard cutouts that added legitimacy to what they see as a one-sided government-funded Democrat propaganda show.
Pity. I made the observation years ago about how Dems and the press ignored Nietzsche's admonition about fighting monsters. Had Dems and the press played it straight instead of joining Trump's vulgar mudslinging, they might actually have defeated him.
Sam Ervin and Howard Baker have left the building, long ago.
Also, you continually caw about me failing to 'respond to reasonable questions.' I did detect a question in your blather jumble, and I answered it: It is a dispute over committee rules.
I realize you only accept the leftwing cartoon view: Dems GOOOOOOOD!!! Repubs BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!
Reasonable people see it as a simple rules dispute, with--of course--politics thrown in.
This isn't the 1970's. There is no high ground left.
They're shooting their own feet sf. I say we continue to let them. Never interrupt your enemy when he's making mistakes.
As for the "Antifa one day..." perhaps it was "all of the above". There were 340 million people in the country in the days preceding and including Jan 6. I can tell you one thing for certain though. The current Jan. 6 committee will never discover the truth. They're looking for their lost car keys on a dark night not where they lost them, but under a street light half a block down the street.
"As for the "Antifa one day..." perhaps it was "all of the above".
Thanks for highlighting that. Antifa on Monday, peaceful tour guide on Tuesday, violent Dems dressing up like Trump supporters crashing and pooping the place on Wednesday, legitimate protest on Thursday, back to peaceful Friday. New day, new bullshit, even if it contradicts the bullshit of the day before or the bullshit of tomorrow.
It's a slightly an edited version of the 1st impeachment, or his handling of COVID, or his grooming Oath Keepers and Proud boys, or the entire shit show of his presidency.
It's always "all the above" even if the lie on Tuesday exposes the lie on Monday. "All the above" has always been fair game in the rabbit hole.
Well, Schiffty Schiff certainly has Trump in his crosshairs now... Trump certainly won't be able to survive this...
“That remains an ongoing part of our investigation… We will be presenting new information in the fall,” Schiff said when asked about any links former Trump White House officials have to the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.
He'll just add it to all the info he said he has on Trump-Russia collusion and it'll be "lights out" for the Don.
"The Fall" is what this whole partisan kabuki circus is all about. Democrats have no useful agenda that would persuade normal Americans to vote for them, so this Hollywood produced Democrat committee miniseries is all they have.
I can hardly wait until the new fall tetevision season begins and the second season of "Franz Kafka Presents, January 6th", begins. I hear their might be a cameo appearance from Ioseb Dzhugashvili. Now there's a man that knew how to run a show trial!
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Excellent post Warren
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DeleteWarren, you did yourself this week with those first two photos! Dumb with woman yep! Hello Jill.... and Do another line? Wow that was rich and I bet the sucker still does! lol :)
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DeleteYou're not the only word killer, most times, I'm just to lazy to correct my own. ;)
Delete***Ronald Ward's indoctrination stupidity on parade.***
ReplyDeleteRonald made this comment in an older blog post:
Gym of the week- "We Republicans refused participation in the committee’s investigation for the express purpose of enabling us to cast it as a partisan exercise and therefore illegitimate. -----Kevin McCarthy on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show Wednesday night.
Notice how poor, dumb Ronald passed this off as a direct quote? Its not.
It's a typical leftwing rewording/mischaracterizing in order to make a Republican mundate statement into a hate totem.
Here is the actual exchange of what was actually said, from the same article dimwit Ronald took the "quote" from:
HANNITY: Once they pulled Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, why didn’t you replace them with other people? In retrospect, should you have?
McCARTHY: No, not at all. Because nothing would be different. Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power. They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals. All they would be is, the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/21/kevin-mccarthy-jan-6-hearings-hannity/
https://www.mediaite.com/news/sean-hannity-monday-morning-quarterbacks-kevin-mccarthy-for-pulling-out-of-jan-6-committee/
This is why we should take nothing the left says at face value.
Leftwing progs like Ronald are either liars deliberately spreading propaganda, or they are too stupid to parse an article correctly, or they unthinkingly lap up leftwing propaganda, apply no critical thinking, and simple-mindedly regurgitate it.
Which is it in your case, Ronald?
Too bad you have to resort to sleaze while Trump is on trial for treason.
ReplyDeleteI thought he was doing rally's. When did you arrest him?
DeleteWhat is this supposed 'sleaze' you are bawling about?
DeleteDoes it involve laptops, cocaine, money from Ukraine and China? Does it involve the 'Big Guy?'
DeleteI'll concede Silver, I should have recognized Greg Sargent's wording of "the California Republican ESSENTIALLY came right out and said" rather than using that "essentially" assessment as a verbatim quote.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't take a genius to read between the lines of the actual wording:
HANNITY: Once they pulled Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, why didn’t you replace them with other people? In retrospect, should you have?
McCARTHY: No, not at all......................the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process.
And McCarthy also said: “If you allow that to go forward, people would think this is a fair process, it’s the minority having a say. No, we would not.”
There isn't much of a logical conclusion other than exactly what the WAPO OPINION article implied: "a refusal to participation in the committee’s investigation for the express purpose of enabling us to cast it as a partisan exercise and therefore illegitimate", something the propaganda machine water totters such as yourself have peddled on demand.
I do screw up sometimes just like earlier this week I said Bannon would be behind bars by the end of the week. I didn't take into consideration a delayed sentencing.
On another note, when The New York Post Editorial Board comes out with an article saying "Trump’s silence on Jan. 6 is damning", you just kinda have to take pause.
There you go again. You have to chop it up to make it prove whatever pointless point you're failing to make...
DeleteMcCARTHY: No, not at all. Because nothing would be different. Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power. They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals. All they would be is, the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process.
The leftwing whine collapses when you see the whole quote. Context is everything, and propagandists understand that very well.
You really should try applying some critical analysis to what you read, and I suggest you expand the range of what you consume.
What I left out:
Delete"Because nothing would be different. Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power. They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals."
Okay, so of the word salad and the political word speak fillers I left out, let's break that down for relevance.
I should know better than trying to rationalize with a deflective reality denialist but here we go.
"Because nothing would be different".
If you previously allowed bipartisan participation, nothing would change. Your point?
"Think of this. It’s only the majority who has subpoena power."
Wasn't that still the case before Banks or gym room groping Jordon? What's changed? I mean, the majority is still the majority and the minority is still the minority.
"They would never allow Republicans into those meetings when they interview the individuals."
Well, aside from that being proven false, how is it that Banks or young boy skivvy grabbing Jordon had some magic wan to override Dems from excluding Rs in interviews? They didn't have any more then than any replacement would now.
It doesn't add up my friend. You don't add up. Your grasping.
McCarthy's blaring admission was: "No, not at all......................the American people would sit up there, and they would think, this is a fair process." All those fill ins fish tosses to the fin clapping gullibles comes up short in any constructive analysis of the interview.
But you don't like to respond to reasonable questions that challenges your narrative. You deflect realities that you don't find comfort in. You, rather than accept your sunburned face and eyes after a long day of naked sun glaring, chose to demean anyone standing in the shade who offers you a suggestion.
Pound sand.
The fundamental argument was over the rules. Pelosi herself said her action of rejecting the GOP committee members was unprecedented, and it was.
DeleteDenying minority members access, subpoena power, and the ability to cross-examine are also unprecedented. This was a pre-planned propaganda show from the beginning. Saying that doesn't deny the produced revelations, albeit one-sided and not challenged.
Still and all, the Democrats could be doing the GOP a huge favor, if they have produced enough to turn enough GOP and moderate voters away from Trump.
Poor Ronald, I never tire of beating you like bongo drums.
DeleteYour idiotic echoing stale insults against Jordan and your unsubstantiated assertions = You Lose
The deliberately missing "caritas" shows up as the .............
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SF, it isn’t unusual for you to declare victory when your desired outcome comes up short.
DeleteMcCarthy clearly admitted that participation would be viewed as fair or legitimate- which was his rationale of pulling out after Jim and Gym were blocked.
I think we’ve previously gone back and forth on why Pelosi rejected their nominations but we can revisit that if you like.
And yes, she did say that "The unprecedented nature of January 6th demands this unprecedented decision," .
I think the problem with the MAGA nuts and right wing media tea guzzlers is that they haven’t come to terms with the unprecedented nature of Jan 6. It was Antifa one day, a peaceful tour the next, the FBI the next and back to a tour guide the next. And they’ll likely find some Newsmax or Alex Jones to tell them to believe something to their liking. I’m even reading some pushing the notion that Trump was grabbing the steering wheel because he wanted to go back to tell them to stop but the secret service wouldn’t let him. Must be that “shoot someone dead on 5th avenue” thing?
Turn enough GOP and moderates away from Trump? We’re seeing some of that with seniors. Minority voters aren’t looking to good for Dems. Trump’s become the Grand Wizard of the KKK types so they’re not going anywhere. Lots of scenarios and political wind shifts.
I’d say pulling Trump supporters away would be a benefit for Dems. They were gonna vote R anyway. Voter turn out is where it’s at.
So far, it was a violent demonstration, based upon DOJ charges and convictions.
DeleteThe problem with you, Ronald, is you slurp up the leftwing propaganda, stake out your position based upon it, and then fail at defending it.
I'll restate: The Demogog majority and the Repube minority had a dispute over rules of the committee. Dems did not want the GOP hijacking the proceedings, and the Repubes saw it as the Dems inviting them in as window dressing only, not actually allowing them to have any power. Repubes did not want to be cardboard cutouts that added legitimacy to what they see as a one-sided government-funded Democrat propaganda show.
Pity. I made the observation years ago about how Dems and the press ignored Nietzsche's admonition about fighting monsters. Had Dems and the press played it straight instead of joining Trump's vulgar mudslinging, they might actually have defeated him.
Sam Ervin and Howard Baker have left the building, long ago.
Also, you continually caw about me failing to 'respond to reasonable questions.' I did detect a question in your blather jumble, and I answered it: It is a dispute over committee rules.
DeleteI realize you only accept the leftwing cartoon view: Dems GOOOOOOOD!!! Repubs BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!
Reasonable people see it as a simple rules dispute, with--of course--politics thrown in.
This isn't the 1970's. There is no high ground left.
They're shooting their own feet sf. I say we continue to let them. Never interrupt your enemy when he's making mistakes.
DeleteAs for the "Antifa one day..." perhaps it was "all of the above". There were 340 million people in the country in the days preceding and including Jan 6. I can tell you one thing for certain though. The current Jan. 6 committee will never discover the truth. They're looking for their lost car keys on a dark night not where they lost them, but under a street light half a block down the street.
"As for the "Antifa one day..." perhaps it was "all of the above".
DeleteThanks for highlighting that. Antifa on Monday, peaceful tour guide on Tuesday, violent Dems dressing up like Trump supporters crashing and pooping the place on Wednesday, legitimate protest on Thursday, back to peaceful Friday. New day, new bullshit, even if it contradicts the bullshit of the day before or the bullshit of tomorrow.
It's a slightly an edited version of the 1st impeachment, or his handling of COVID, or his grooming Oath Keepers and Proud boys, or the entire shit show of his presidency.
It's always "all the above" even if the lie on Tuesday exposes the lie on Monday. "All the above" has always been fair game in the rabbit hole.
The utility of "agent provocateurs" is well known to the Black Bloc... which means that there's no "contradiction" in any of it.
Delete...especially when burning down a Reichstag.
DeleteFour weeks before Hitler, two before Biden...
Delete1st time tragedy. 2nd time farce.
DeleteWith DC politics, its all farce all the time.
DeleteWell, Schiffty Schiff certainly has Trump in his crosshairs now... Trump certainly won't be able to survive this...
Delete“That remains an ongoing part of our investigation… We will be presenting new information in the fall,” Schiff said when asked about any links former Trump White House officials have to the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.
He'll just add it to all the info he said he has on Trump-Russia collusion and it'll be "lights out" for the Don.
"The Fall" is what this whole partisan kabuki circus is all about. Democrats have no useful agenda that would persuade normal Americans to vote for them, so this Hollywood produced Democrat committee miniseries is all they have.
DeleteI can hardly wait until the new fall tetevision season begins and the second season of "Franz Kafka Presents, January 6th", begins.
DeleteI hear their might be a cameo appearance from Ioseb Dzhugashvili. Now there's a man that knew how to run a show trial!