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Saturday, July 2, 2022

Get It Off Your Chest 07/02/2022

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  1. Congress needs to say what they mean.

    The gargantuan fat truth being ignored in all of this is hysteria over Supreme Court rulings on Roe and rogue federal bureaucracies, if congress would pass clear laws (like say an abortion law, or an Obamacare law that didn't have a tax that wasn't a tax in it) the Supreme Court would not have to "make law."

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    1. Further, I propose: If the Supreme Court finds constitutional flaws in a federal law, congress should follow the same rules the rest of us do if we mess something up at work:

      Call congress back into session, and they can't go home until they either repeal the law or fix its flaw.

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    2. Yes. Legislation should come from that branch.
      There is a deadlock that needs to be broken.

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    3. The real and most workable answer is for congress to trim back its ambitions to only their constitutional mandates, and leave the rest to the states.

      They are trying to order a pizza for 330 million people. Impossible.

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    4. ...but, but, but... DJT might get on the ballot in 2024. He MUST be STOPPED!

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    5. As to your larger point, I must still wonder. Is it because so much of our society depends upon unwritten and unspoken rules? Or is it because the spaces of "negative liberty" and "personal privacy" must now become subject to the "positive liberty" and vision of government because we no longer have the shared values and good sense of former citizens?

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    6. There's much to be said in what was unspoken in the Constitution that left room for the Federalism of the 9th/10th Amendments now resurgent in recent SCotUS rulings

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    7. As the modern "white-progressive" liberal has sold his own subjectivity to achieve the argumentative position of "objectivity through universality" in the identity politics game du jour which obsesses upon racial identities and now decrees every right a universal human right.

      "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" -Emerson.

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    8. We've reached the end of a string of deductive logic that started with "Governments" granting Universal Rights and not Universal Rights endowed by a "Creator."

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  2. TC and Ronald Ward continue howling about Donald Trump. Yeah, he's an unhinged vulgarian, BUT WE KNEW THAT ALREADY! Dems are really breaking new ground!

    Here's a recap for the monomaniacal hooked on the flopping Democrat mini-series:

    * Two failed impeachments. Why didn't Democrats use the Mueller Report and its "evidence?"

    * Why didn't the Democrats perform due diligence on the second impeachment and bring some real evidence of ... whatever it was they were trying to prove.

    With Russia and Ukraine now at war, we see what the first impeachment was really all about:

    Trump's only "crime" was getting elected and threatening the international investment arbitrage the State Department was running out of the Kiev embassy.

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    1. SF,
      Multiple upvotes for that astute comment!!!

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    2. DJT represents "obscene populism". He is therefore... "shameless" and cannot be stopped by those who would call upon "shame" to silence and protect the "unwritten rules" of global corporatism.

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    3. It thereby become the very nemesis of "critical theory" by exposing the hypocrisy sustaining it.

      "The populist's vulgar excesses mark the polite liberal opposition as one that hypocritically denies that which the right is no longer afraid to parade publically for all to see. The truth exposed by the new populist right, the revelation that the symbollic order is nothing but a show of sanctimony put on to conceal violent reality is congruent with the anti-ideological project of critical thinking, and therefore criticism finds itself powerless to oppose it."

      In this sense, the populist critique is symmetrically opposed to the politically correct disclosure of the illusions of liberal neutrality. They supplement and re-inforce each other. The Left's moral outrage feeds the Right's appetite for transgression, which feeds the Left's moral outrage and the cycle continues.
      - Zizek

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    4. Never fear, Beamish!

      Hellary is tanned, she's rested, and she's ready!

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    5. It sure beats the silence of the RINO, beamish, the silence that implies consent.

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    6. FJ: My country boy translation:

      Trump didn't properly cloak his brazen political maneuvers in the decora of state, he wasn't lawyered-up properly, he didn't cut the right people in on the vig, and he crassly carried out the actions himself instead of using cutouts and buffers like mob boss Hellary.

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    7. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 10:10:00 AM CDT

      Imagine the orbital laser firestarter crowd trying to make Hillary Clinton seem crazy.

      Oh noes, not the b'rer patch....

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    8. Obama and GW Bush are heroes of the Establishment. Vlad bit off half of our new little friend Georgia under Bush, and the Russians took Crimea under Obama. Two humongous and embarrassing foreign policy fails.

      Keeping the Establishment Politburo happy can cover a multitude of sins.

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    9. TC, I agree. Now, I suggest you go employ such tired jokes on people who actually spout such crap.

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    10. ,(((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 10:24:00 AM CDT

      You seem impatient. Was Bush and Obama supposed to go to war with Russia over Georgia and Crimea, if it's a mistake that they didn't?

      Of course it was a mistake. The Apocalypse is ten years overdue.

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    11. Worse, sf, he brought up subjects that we don't talk about in our "polite" recently Sovietized society. He said the words, "we are not supposed to criticize Comrade Stalin" out loud.

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    12. The beamish neocons want their war, sf. Global corporatism's empire must expand to survive.

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    13. A smarter class of "experts" would have avoided such catastrophes. To believe it was all inevitable is to succumb to fatalism. Might as well crawl into your basement with a pile of fentanyl.

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    14. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 10:36:00 AM CDT

      Go to church and demand to speak with the manager. It's not my fault the movie left out Tom Bombadil.

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    15. No worries "Thought Criminal" *snerk* the Establishment is in control. Daddy is taking a firm hand to protect you from the dissidents and their heretical ideas.

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    16. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 11:09:00 AM CDT

      Down with the Establishment!

      ::passes Silverfiddle's meth pipe to FJ::

      *snerk*

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    17. Smaller banks aren’t “too big to fail”, requiring bailouts when they’re mismanaged, and yet they make very important community loans.

      Smaller teams are more nimble, can adapt to changing environments faster, don’t require as much management or communication overhead, can work cheaply and from anywhere.

      Smaller cars use less gas, are more maneuverable, cause fewer deaths, use fewer resources.

      Smaller homes require less heating, less cleaning, less maintenance, force you to simplify, are cozier.

      Smaller programs use fewer computer resources, take up less computer power and thus help the environment, work faster, get the job done with a minimum of fuss.

      Smaller suitcases (such as a small backpack) are easier to carry around, fit easier in overhead compartments, don’t require you to check luggage and worry about luggage not getting to the right destination, are easier to pack and unpack.

      Smaller websites (in terms of file sizes) are easier to load, faster, more responsive.

      Smaller companies are also more responsive, less expensive, hungrier, more focused.

      Smaller people are often faster, more nimble, humbler, take up fewer resources, and are very very beautiful (my wife is an example).

      Haikus pack a lot of punch into three tiny lines.

      Smaller posts don’t take as much time to write or read, which is good for a lazy blogger. And a busy reader.

      Small is beautiful. Aim for smaller when it makes sense, and enjoy the wonder that ensues.

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    18. Love that SF! I could not have put it better. Brilliant!

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    19. upvote for FJ. Small is indeed beautiful. Just one quibble: short messages take longer to write. As that fine aphorism variously attributed to Twain and others goes "I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead."

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  3. Ronald is still whining about the first impeachment.

    Both articles were BS, especially given what we know now about what a Democrat-DC Establishment cesspit of Interational corruption Ukraine was. We deposed a Ukrainian president under Obama, "The Big Guy's" son was lapping up thousands a month for a job he as completely unqualified for, Russia took Crimea...

    Trump's "crime" was not couching normal US political behavior in the traditional employment of buffers and cutouts.

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    1. Good liberals are producing the best and most interesting discussions examining just what the hell is going on in America

      Free Thinking Through the Fourth Turning with Sasha Stone

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    2. Yeah, but Farmer, the Democrats have forgotten the historical Hollywood Truth: Each subsequent sequel is worse than the former, and the original was a stinker!

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    3. “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon

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    4. SF, you've seemed to have drifted a bit too deep into the river of non sequitur. Exposing the rabbit hole fantasies your handlers instruct of you hardly qualifies me of "whining" but, it's your own little corner in your own little chair which you've seemed to have found comfort of you being whoever you want to be in so if I've interrupted that alternate fact residency, my apologies.

      Aside from the admissions and evidence of bribing Ukraine, did Trump stonewall the House’s impeachment inquiry? Did he refuse to hand over documents to congressional investigators? Did he order top advisers and government officials to defy subpoenas and refuse to testify?

      If the answer is yes to any of those, he is guilty. Period. Done. Worthy of legally being impeached.

      If you answer no, you're either a damn liar, brainwashed beyond hope, or just incredibly politically ignorant.

      And again the GOP had already said their verdict was in before the impeachment trial began.

      Evidence didn't matter. Facts didn't matter. Not to Republican jurors nor to you.

      It's you making bullshit up, not me.

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    5. I'm reading on Mediaite that a whopping 68% of Fox News viewers blame the Jan. 6 attack on “Left-wing protesters trying to make Trump look bad,”

      I'm sure you agree, or not agree but, or, well, something.

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    6. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 6:19:00 PM CDT

      “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon

      Nothing says crazy like believing you're Napoleon.

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    7. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 6:27:00 PM CDT

      I'm reading on Mediaite that a whopping 68% of Fox News viewers blame the Jan. 6 attack on “Left-wing protesters trying to make Trump look bad,"

      This is very consistent with my rule of thirds (one-third of people are with you, one-third of people are against you, and the remaining third wonders why baby oil doesn't come from babies.)

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    8. Ronald,

      You're not particularly good at using words. Reading isn't your forte either.

      El Donaldo called BS on the Dems. The fact that no convictions came out of that impeachment sez, he's not guilty. Another Democrat Party fail.

      See my comments on what Ukraine was really all about. Are you happy about what is going on in that country now? Democrats and our foreign policy establishment did that. If there were any justice, they would apologize to Bush-Cheney (who both belong in prison).

      Now go back to snorting MSNBS

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    9. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 8:20:00 PM CDT

      The fact that no convictions came out of that impeachment sez, he's not guilty. Another Democrat Party fail.

      It was crazy to try to convict OJ Simpson under the threat of rioting.

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    10. (((Thought Criminal)))July 2, 2022 at 8:25:00 PM CDT

      Republicans losing the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office... greatest Democrat failures ever lol

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    11. Yeah Silver, the old “you’re not smart enough like us to understand” crutch is a real zinger now ain’t it? How intellectually brilliant of you.

      In the meantime, in all of my illiteracy, you come up short in addressing anything that challenges the batshit crazy buffoonery you espouse.

      You’re a rabid nutcase dude.

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    12. ...and if you don't agree with me, then you're a puddin' head, so there!

      gtfu, Ronnie.

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    13. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 12:12:00 AM CDT

      Donald Trump is going to time travel through the World Between Worlds like Ahsoka Tano to defeat every major powerful Democrat Sith Lord in the same day, you'll see.

      Except that badly written Disney Star Wars isn't real, and neither are Donald Trump's chances of making a comeback.

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    14. Then why the Jan 6 Hearings, beamish? Are you believing or not believing your own narratives now?

      Ronnie makes an excellent case based purely upon Democratic supporter narratives, but have the narrative writers any self interested reasons for writing as they do? Are they disinterested observers, or partisans hacks? Experience and past history, (muh Russia, Trump's a Russian puppet, Steele Repot) would argue strongly for the latter.

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    15. They've been predicting DJT's downfall and demise for going on six years now. Yet he's more popular the Joe Biden, the announced candidate in 2024. Go figure.

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    16. Of course, Joe Biden is Michelle Obama's stalking horse for 2024, but why would these self-same "narrators" lie about THAT, too?

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    17. TC made a good point, which is also a point I've been trying to make:

      "Republicans losing the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office... greatest Democrat failures ever lol"

      Democrat, being the determined progressives they are, believe they can solve everything, 100%, permanently. Anyone in tune with the reality of our fallen and ever-evolving world knows that is not possible.

      Politics is messy, and its gotten really sloppy over the past decade. The saving grace in all of this is, the voters have the last word.

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    18. Kinda like how in North Carolina where Democrats get 51% of the vote and Rs get 49% yet Rs get 8 of the 13 House seats. Is that the kind of last word you’re talking about?

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    19. If you don't understand how congressional districts work, I can't explain it to you.

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    20. And please spare us stupid comments marinated in ignorance of the Electoral College.

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    21. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 1:01:00 PM CDT

      You still have to look at why Democrats held control of both Houses of Congress for a good 45 year stretch, why Jimmy Carter is the only Democrat President voted out of office since before World War I, why Gerald Ford, George H. W. Bush, and Donald Trump were voted out of office, why Republican Presidents like Trump are now losing re-election bids in Electoral College landslide losses, why traditionally red Republican states are turning purple then Democrat blue. Why Democrats can hold control of Congress for decades, why Republicans lose so goddamned always, why Nancy Pelosi has been Speaker of the House twice and for 8 out of the last 15 years, and so on.

      Donald Trump came from the Democratic Party to destroy the Republican Party as a relevant national political force.

      He needs your help.

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    22. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 1:10:00 PM CDT

      "Just set aside your principles (reasons you'd consider voting Republican) and vote for Bush / Dole / McCain / Romney / Trump anyway."

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    23. Ah oh...video proof Trump grabbed the wheel on 1/6/21...

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    24. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 1:16:00 PM CDT

      "Donald Trump lost us the House, the Senate, the Oval Office, and turned three solidly Republican strongholds into battleground states. Let's see what else he can do!"

      "Have you tried cutting your losses?"

      "Nonsense! Losing is winning!"

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    25. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 1:17:00 PM CDT

      Y'all are tired of winning anyway!

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    26. I guess Biden's not a very scary/ effective stalking horse for Moochelle, Newsome is jumping into the 2024 Presidential race now...

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    27. The problem with the GOP is, without endless war porn and obnoxious religious virtue signaling, they collapse into a incoherent puddle of goo.

      They were gliding into the 2022 election crowing about how bigly they were going to win, but Democrats (with every institution and media outlet on their side) are doing a brilliant job painting Repubelicons as heartless bullies taking away people's freedoms.

      My prediction? The GOOP does what it does best. Stands there stupid, doesn't fight back, and runs more candidates like Todd Akin who enjoy making loud, embarrassingly ignorant comments about women and their sexuality.

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    28. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 7:00:00 PM CDT

      This. So much this. But the Todd Akins, Sharron Angles, etc. never made it past election day. Never for the chance to be Marjorie Trailer-park Greene or Paul Gozar. Never got to raise their fist with Virginia's spare Senator Josh Hawley in support of an impending attack on the Capitol, never became President to send Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine and several state courts in search of a reason Trump should remain President after losing like most one-term Republican Presidents. How can Republicans become tired of winning if they knew knew how? The Republican Party NEVER misses an opportunity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (as my Dad used to say). They're good at the underdog victim game, until they're not the underdog. Priority one then becomes "Victimize / Own the Libs!" And then they lose, and then they're victims for losing, and then it's never anything wrong with them. Trump has wrung out and exorcised the capacity for introspection and self-awareness in the Republican Party. Bad optics? No, they just look bad. The "biased librul meedya" doesn't even have to smear anything anymore. Distance themselves from a guy that brought nothing but loss, convictions (of the prison sentence kind), and disposable integrity to the GOP?

      Nobody wants Donald Trump to run for President in 2024 more than the Democratic National Committee.

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  5. I wish all a happy and safe holiday weekend.

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    1. Thank you Elizabeth. Don't blow any fingers off!

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    2. I'm down with that.
      Celebrate Freedom!
      Then work to maintain it.

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    3. Thanks FJ, and Ed see the video Toby Keith made. I have it up here.

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  6. There's plenty of blame to go round. We all made mistakes on this road to perdition we're on.

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    1. (((Thought Criminal)))July 3, 2022 at 12:24:00 AM CDT

      Why does any gunfire have to be involved? The Republican Party could just go back to running viable Presidential candidates. Democrats haven't had a President voted out of office since Jimmy Carter. Oddly enough, they didn't riot about it either.

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