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Meanwhile, the movement to defund the police appears to be gaining momentum.
Are you as fed up as I am with all this fomenting of anarchy?
How much more can our republic withstand?
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The anger I carry directed at the fascist dictators who insist we wear our slave masks, don't work for a living, don't get too close to each other, applaud BLM Inc., is looking for an outlet.
ReplyDeleteJust sayin'.
The concept of Civil War 2.0 had been derided.
DeleteIt's real. It's here.
Adherents of the Constitution, the civil compact, vs those opposed.
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DeleteBut I'm not you, so that's a plus.
DeleteEd,
DeleteWitty response! I love it!
Worth reading:
ReplyDeleteThe ‘Institutional Racism’ Canard by Andrew C. McCarthy.
Excerpt:
...It is fiction. It is sheer demagoguery, peddled as American cities are besieged by rioters in the wake of George Floyd’s killing by Minneapolis police. The falsity of the claim is demonstrated even by statista.com itself....
Read the entire essay at the above link.
Data which cannot be processed by the brain dead.
DeleteNevertheless I pursued it to its conclusion. It did not improve.
DeleteDid that video seem realistic to you? Feels reminiscent of an SNL skit (with even fewer jokes than usual) to me.
ReplyDeleteI ran out of patience for the McCarthy essay after the first three paragraphs, during which it failed to distinguish between absolute and per capita figures, all while hypocritically accusing statistica of "demagoguery".
Remember to read critically, everyone.
Jez,
ReplyDeleteDid that video seem realistic to you?
From what I can tell, it is only too realistic.
You need to read past the first three paragraphs of the essay -- even if you have already made your own judgment, based on what exactly, I don't know.
Asking me to bow to you is an existential threat to my sovereignty and will be dealt with accordingly.
ReplyDeleteThe Never-Trump RINOS and Establishment Democrats have joined hands to bring us our first ever Corporate-Sponsored Revolution.... even the WWII loving Mad-Dog generals are joining in!
ReplyDeleteerratum - Post-WWII Order for WWII above,
DeleteEd,
ReplyDeleteExactly!
"based on what" -- like I explained, a glaring error handling stats. Anyone can make a mistake, but to open with one of that magnitude, in the midst of an arch critique of a better source (can't vouch for statistica but i've never seen them be this wrong this quickly) makes it impossible to trust anything further he has to say at present (let's be kind and assume he'll learn better soon).
ReplyDeleteJez,
ReplyDeletelet's be kind and assume he'll learn better soon
Ahem.
I doubt that a man with the experience and reputation of Andrew C. McCarthy has issues interpreting statistics.
You know, Jez, just because you feel that something must be true doesn't make that something true. Feelings -- even one's personal experiences -- are not science (facts).
I try very hard to be objective. Are you trying to be objective? I'm not saying that being objective is easy!
Joe,
ReplyDelete"Excited delirium"?
I've not heard mention about that before. Did I miss the mention?
I have found no way of escaping my own subjectivity, the best I can manage is to acknowledge it and work around it where I can. But McCarthy's opening statement is erroneous, no feelings or points of view involved. His first table of numbers simply does not mean what he claims it means. There's no point of view from which his claim "[Here are the numbers showing that] whites are nearly twice as likely as blacks to be shot to death by police" is anything other than dead wrong. The closest correct statement would be something like "A person fatally shot by police is nearly twice as likely to be white as (s)he is to be black". This is lesson one in conditional probability: a high school student would tell you that the probability of A given B is not generally the same as the probability of B given A, but this is the nature of McCarthy's mistake.
ReplyDeleteThere are other errors further down.
I'm laying it on a bit thick, but I'm only echoing his own stridency ("it is a fiction. It is sheer demogoguery...") -- he would be irritating even if he right, but since he's making a total pig's ear out of it himself it's particularly annoying.
In my experience lawyers do not tend to be competent statisticians, nor are they inclined to be -- it's not their job to be accurate, it's their job to be persuasive. All but the most fastidious of lawyers can be tempted to the odd bit of sophistry -- it must be hard to resist when so much money is at stake. As well as a lawyer, I notice McCarthy is a political pundit. I don't know why you thought I should be impressed by his CV. Now that I have acquainted myself with it, I must withdraw my former misplaced kindness: I expect him to persist in his errors, whether they be inadvertent or calculated, for the rest of his career.
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ReplyDeleteYes, I am as fed up as YOU are with all this fomenting of anarchy?
ReplyDeleteAnd to answer your question, there is NOT much more that I can stand!
And let me voice (or write) my opinion which NOT an Insult but it's my opinion.
As a lifelong conservative, I have to laugh when liberal thinks they have found the magic solution. Their notion is that "Conservative ideas are so inferior, how can any one with any sense at all have become so dumb." Their egotism is beyond understanding. I sometimes lay awake thinking what makes them so blind. Are they not aware of the wonderful life they are living, because they are living in the United States of America?
Are they not aware of the millions of people who would give their tight arm to come here to live and how hard some of them try to get here. Why would anyone want to change the way of American life? Why would anyone want to change the Constitution that we hold so dearly?
A lot of people are out for what they can get from the government these days, perhaps it’s because of this President. . And, there's no other place in the world that has more, and is giving more free stuff than America.
The American way of life is preferred to any other system anywhere in the world over all other systems, or cultures because it affords everyone freedom of choices
We have liberty and can do so many things that people in other countries can't. For example you talk about the President in a derogatory way! You can picket anyplace you care to, You can sue a person or a company if they did you an injustice. That just shows how much liberty we have because in other countries you well get killed!
Fifty or so years ago, modern conservatism did not even exist. It has had to built against a liberal headwind, from the bottom up. Even these days, or in the days that have past , we had seen new developments on the rise like the tea party, or when we saw Sarah Palin trying to survive against a relentless barrage of criticism, and horrendous Insults from the left, none of which were accurate or fair, by any means.. If our way of life and our liberties is displeasing to progressives. And now it’s carried over to our President, who can not do anything to please these miserable people. They can and do use the election process to change things. Or better yet, they can leave the country, no one is going to stop you.
But if we dumb conservatives decide to give in to there, brilliant progressives, we are doomed.
So let me say this to the Progressives, the Socialists, and the people who are disenchanted with this country are those pieces of crap that bombed Boston, or the creeps who are “Pretesting” these days, by setting fires, and Looting stores . If you don’t like it here, GET THE HELL OUT! And take those so called "Protesters" with you, because frankly I am also SICK and Tired of them, ALL of them... the Peaceful ones and the Creeps who are rioting and destroying the country!
Thank You
No, Liz, people come across thousands of miles of desert, dying on the way, drown crossing the Rio Grande, gather at the border and huddle in masses of desperation, all because they want to come live in a hellhole of racism and poverty. Right.
DeleteJez,
ReplyDeleteSuit yourself.
But you typed in:
I have found no way of escaping my own subjectivity, the best I can manage is to acknowledge it and work around it where I can.
If you cannot conquer your own subjectivity, then you should not expect racists, intentional or otherwise, to conquer their subjectivity -- in which case curing "systemic racism" is impossible.
A never-ending cycle of hatred and violence? Grim.
FORGET YOUR AIRY, DETACHED, HIGHFALUTING, LEARNED-SOUNDING, LOQUACIOUS ATTEMPTS TO SPLIT HAIRS AND FIND EXCUSES FOR MAYHEM, VANDALISM AND MURDER. T_H_I_S ... IS WHAT CIVILIZATION IS UP AGAINST. TWO WRONGS NEVER HAVE –– AND NEVER WILL –– MAKE A RIGHT. PERIOD!
ReplyDeleteNew York Looters and Hoodlums Attack Guardian Angels Founder Curtis Sliwa – Break His Jaw with a Hammer During Riots
Gateway Pundit
by Jim Hoft
Looters and hoodlums attacked the founder of the Guardian Angels, Curtis Sliva, during the riots this week in New York City.
The looters BROKE Sliva’s JAW with a hammer and another Guardian Angel lost his EYE during the attack.
The Guardian Angels stated goal is to keep order and protect the community.(Tweet)
The Daily Mail reported: Curtis Sliwa said he and his Guardian Angels clashed with hundreds of looters as they tried to steal from a FootLocker athletic shoe store in New York’s Soho neighborhood after George Floyd protests Tuesday night.
Why do we need objectivity, isn't critical distance sufficient?
ReplyDeleteTo be clear about objectivity: we *can* be objective within strict domains, eg. mathematics. My objections to McCarthy's article are mathematical, ie objective which is why I'm not bothering with any reservations in my expression of them.
But beyond those strict domains, don't be fooled: you cannot escape some aspect or other of subjectivity. There are just too many facets of it for anyone to pay attention to all of them at once.
@Franco, thank you for all the adjectives but please don't hold me responsible for arguments I have not made. Remember that with most issues, there are more than two exactly opposite positions available; just because we disagree on some points, it does not follow that I must advocate everything that you oppose.
ReplyDeleteHume said it succinctly, and I have always found his conclusion convening.:
ReplyDelete"REASON is but the SLAVE of PASSION" (paraphrased)
"Objectivity" per se is unreal –– tantamount to chasing rainbows –– , and has little or no value, unless it is fueled by heartfelt, passionate CONVICTION.
Life, itself, is almost nothing BUT "feeling" and the search to fulfill our yearnings and justify our instinctive responses to stimuli.
The Higher Consciousness we like to think we desire could only be reached through Devotion to Divine Principles intuited and codified by "holy men" none of whom were infallible.
SALVATION THROUGH ULTIMATE WISDOM HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT HAND, BUT WHO TODAY IN THIS CYNICAL, WICKEDLY "DUMBED-DOWN" AGE HAS ENOUGH SENSE LEFT TO PROFIT FROM IT?
DeleteThe Gods of the Copybook Headings
As I pass through my incarnations
___ in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations
___ to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers
___ I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings,
___ I notice, outlast them all.
We were living in trees when they met us.
___ They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us,
___ as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift,
___ Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas
___ while we followed the March of Mankind.
We moved as the Spirit listed.
___ They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne
___ like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress,
___ and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield,
___ or the lights had gone out in Rome.
With the Hopes that our World is built on
___ they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton;
___ they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses;
___ they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market
___ Who promised these beautiful things.
When the Cambrian measures were forming,
___ They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons,
___ that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us
___ and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said:
___ "Stick to the Devil you know."
On the first Feminian Sandstones
___ we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour
___ and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children
___ and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said:
___ "The Wages of Sin is Death."
In the Carboniferous Epoch
___ we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter
___ to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money,
___ there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said:
___ "If you don't work you die."
Then the Gods of the Market tumbled,
___ and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled
___ and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters,
___ and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings
___ limped up to explain it once more.
As it will be in the future,
___ it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain
___ since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit
___ and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger
___ goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished,
___ and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing
___ and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us,
___ as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings
___ with terror and slaughter return!
~ Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
The body camera make it clear. First, Floyd began complaining of being unable to breathe while standing, well before he was taken down, and well before any knee was placed on his neck.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, I want you to do a little thought experiment. Place your left index finger tip on your windpipe. Now take your right hand, make a fist, and place that fist on the side of your neck. Now, push on the side of your neck with that fist. Can you visualize any amount of pressure from your fist that would close your windpipe?
Bear in mind that the leg to which than knee was attached was behind the "victim," which puts the knee (your fist) well BEHIND the windpipe. Even when applied from the front, it takes a LOT of force to close the windpipe. Applied from the side and rear? No.
The original Medical Examiner's report said there was no indication of asphyxia. After an ME hired by the Floyd family said there was such evidence, and after serious riots were happening in his city, the Minneapolis ME changed his mind, went along with consensus and said that asphyxia was present.
Seeing police and military kneeling to "protestors" pretty much makes me lose hope that my nation will last even the rest of my lifetime, and I'm 76.
ReplyDeleteJayhawk,
DeleteI feel the same way.
Surrender, IMO. **sigh**
Jayhawk,
ReplyDeleteIs it your position that the officer(s) did nothing wrong?
No, I think that particular restraint is rather pernicious. It probably can, for instance, break someone's neck. But cause the asphyxia that has led to massive breakdown of social order in the nation? No.
ReplyDeleteNine unarmed black men were killed by police nationwide in 2019. Nineteen unarmed white men were killed by police in the same period. This whole thing is a crisis entirely manufactured by the media.
Jayhawk,
ReplyDeleteI know those stats, which are not being discussed in the msm. Of course!
This whole thing is a crisis entirely manufactured by the media.
Well, I would say "mostly manufactured...."
The pot stirring is driving me crazy!
I'm starting to think that Lincoln was right with some of his statements during the Lincoln-Douglas debates....
Something which I suspected, but for which I had no documentation. What cop did was in the manual and was entirely legal.
ReplyDeleteThat means the other three, who are charged with murder because they "failed to intervene" had no reason to intervene with a fellow officer who was following manual procedure.
I repeat: entirely manufactured by the media.
Jayhawk,
ReplyDeleteWe disagree. 8 minutes and 43 seconds was too long. He was subdued long before that.
I would add that the crisis is not entirely wound up in any one incident, but the long-established pattern of unaccountable brutality and unequal protection. It's not as though, if only this incident had been reported differently, black people would currenlty have complete faith in the police service. To focus exclusively on any one incident is to let a tree obscure the forest.
ReplyDeleteBLM is merely a vehicle for communist agitation. Such wonderful people attack business that employs locals and serve the. Community. They go back to their hipster enclave and leave yours smoldering.
ReplyDeleteScrew George Floyd. He got 8 minutes of lying in the street for refusing to get into the car.
ReplyDelete