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Friday, September 13, 2019

Video: Who Owns You?

Hat tip to my dear friend Mustang, who emailed me the link to the video below:


How, then, should we proceed? What, then, should we do?

Your thoughts?

64 comments:

  1. Overwrought speech at a high school Anarchists Club meeting.

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    1. SF,
      Maybe.

      But as one being run out of my home state because of soaring real-estate taxes and various oppressive measures preventing me from selling my property for what it should be worth, I understand that this county owns me.

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    2. That is what happened to me AOW... why I moved to Florida... homestead exemption for seniors, no income tax, inheritance taxes, no car inspections etc.... RE taxes killed me in PA... the government controlled where i lived.
      then came Hurricane Irma....

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    3. Cass Alexander Adelphi said

      Your story, Mr. Bunker, is the story of most successful, reasonably prosperous, middle-class Americans who've reached retirement age. Ever escalating property taxes literally force older people to sell the houses they love and have worked hard to pay for and improve usaully over a thirty-year period or more.

      If we lived in a just world, which of curse we don't, because there is no such thung and never has been, people who've reach age fifty-five would be exempted from further increases in property taxes, and would be rewarded inestead of penalized for making improvements to the aesthetic appeal and value of their property.

      "The power to tax is the power to destroy."

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    4. Anon, some states do just that. And I agree.

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    5. Cass,
      As I mentioned earlier, someone in my family has lived here since 1947.

      It takes a helluva lot to get me motivated to get out. But I'm there -- the taxes and regulations being two of the three factors motivating me to load up the Conestoga.

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  2. Gee, I wonder if she said anything in the last ten seconds that redeemed the first four minutes I wasted listening to?
    I doubt it.
    1. I am owned by Jesus Christ. I am only a steward of my life and property. You may not agree, and that's fine. America.
    2. I am a free citizen in America, a representational government.
    When I call my representative, I am not grovelling. I am making my views known. It is my responsibility. If he/she doesn't act accordingly, I act accordingly.
    3. I pay my taxes. They support the common defense, but too much more and for too much. See point 2. But to act as if any taxes are an imposition on my liberty is absurd.
    In the last ten seconds I missed, did she offer a solution?
    OK I went back and finished it. No, she didn't. "Act like it".
    Sorry for the attitude, but I won't be played by a pretty face with a cute tag (Josie the Outlaw) who probably monetizes that crap.

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    1. Ed,
      She did not offer a solution.

      I have no idea about any monetization.

      But to act as if any taxes are an imposition on my liberty is absurd.

      Disagree. In my "Golden Years," I'm being run out of the state in which both my father and I were born and bred. $500-600 a month in real estate tax: a tear-down house and land that the county, so far, will not allow me to subdivide.

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    2. Addendum: at least I am free to move. But I dread the idea of having to work until the day that I die or am so disabled that I can no longer work at all.

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    3. AOW, I understand the concept of excess taxation (my point 3), but she bemoans ALL taxation.
      SF, thanks.

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  3. We [as a society] have willingly surrendered so much of our voice, power and sovereignty.......all that's really left is to complain like "Josie".

    The damage has been done.

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  4. Sweetness there needs to read Second Treatise on Civil Government and get hip on the Social Contract. It wouldn't hurt to heed Thomas Hobbes's warning about life being solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short (which describes many of my relatives) without government.

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  5. well, it seems clear Josie the Outlaw is an over stuffed big L libertarian. She reminds me of EXACTLY why Ayn Rand jettisoned her brief support for libertarianism. It's natural end point is anarchy.

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    1. And? The natural end points for all political ideologies are extreme. I'd prefer Anarchism by a mile over Stalinism amd Fascism.

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    2. Martin Luther Pilkington, III said

      Good on you, CI. Better to iive as a free savage in the jungle than as some tyrant's galley slave, even if pampered, as some enlightened despots have been sometimes wont to do.

      How many have been willing to give up theirfreedom in excahange for bread, circuses, strong drink, and plenty of willing nobile bimbos?

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    3. How many? Seemingly most of them. You can tell by the extreme analogies proffered, that increasing increments of Liberty will continue to be willingly surrendered for notions of comfort, expediency and “safety”.

      “Oh golly, if we demand more sovereignty over our associations and pursuits, we’ll be shooting each other from ourselves”. “Here’s my wallet, please take more Sir......”

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    4. Neither I or Rand, or any independent minded individual would prefer Stalinism, fascism, or Maoism. But anarchy? Given human nature and greed lawlessness most assuredly becomes the norm.

      Guess we just produce and distribute more firearms eh?


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    5. Glwadys Grimaldi O'Haire said

      They who would give up a measure of liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neighter liberty nor safety."

      ... Benjamin Franklin

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    6. Of course. Those who understand Franklin's genius also understand the necessary imitations on MOB rule. A REPRESENTATVE, or DEMOCRATIC republic is not tyranny. Not does it give every INDIVIDUAL the right to do WHATEVER the hell they please.

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    7. As long as one is not stealing from you, harming you or depriving you of your Liberty.....the right to do WHATEVER the hell they please, should be the default setting for nation of free peoples.

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    8. With freedom comes great responsibility. That responsibility should include a degree of responsibility for things outside and beyond oneself.

      And yes CI, as long as one is responsible enough to observe the laws of our democratic republic and show common respect and decency for all who deserve it they should be able to do whatever they want. As long as it doesn't infringe on another's rights.

      Anything short of the above make no sense. Side note, those who spend their time worrying about their rights are the one that most likely will be the first to crush the rights of others.

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    9. Are you going to legislate "common respect and decency"? and if so, how?

      Your last paragraph is opinion, yet you wrote it as a statement. Surely then, you can cite evidence.

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    10. RN,
      those who spend their time worrying about their rights are the one that most likely will be the first to crush the rights of others.

      Disagree. Too much of a blanket statement.

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    11. It's a patently absurd statement, which is why we won't see a proffering of any evidence.

      If anything, the opposite is true. Those asleep at the wheel as the State continues to infringe on American Rights...will see them crushed...eventually.

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  6. Martin Luther Pilkington, III said

    This rude little girl girl with the prominent nostrils may think she belongs on the "right" but her arrogant, cocksure attitude, and scolding know-it-all, pre-adolescent tone of voice remind me a lot more of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez than they do anyone who understands the blessings of liberty –– and the obligation it demands to preserve and maintain it.

    Snippy little girls who think they know a lot come across a salow, vain and frankly silly.

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    1. Three cheers ansd a hundred upvotes for Pilkngton.

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  7. Passing a law that prevents me from shooting you dead is not "owning me." That law also prevents you from shooting me dead, and it therefor protecting me.

    A law that makes me pay taxes is not "owning me," because it is providing school for my children, fire protection for my home and many other benefits.

    The girl has never been taught how to exercise valid reasoning.

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    1. Jayhawk,
      A law that makes me pay taxes is not "owning me," because it is providing school for my children, fire protection for my home and many other benefits.

      I don't know about the schools where you are, but here, despite all the kudos, they are leftist indoctrination centers. Teacher tenure has also caused major problems -- to the point that too many are serving time to get their pensions. **sigh**

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    2. BRAVO Jayhawk. You hit that nail SQUARELY on the head.

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    3. Cass Alexander Adelphi said

      People usually wait until it's too late to extricate themselves from undesirable situations for three reasons:

      They are ruled first by INERTIA

      Second by SENTIMENT

      Third by FAILURE either to READ, or BELIEVE The HANDWRITING on the WALL

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    4. Cass Alexander Adelphi said

      lll health often comes as the result of not having made the best possible choices. The stress generated by not heeding the prompting one's instincts can be siastrous, though that's not always the case, of course.

      Lady Luck really does have a lot to do with the way things turn out, but tat doesn't absolve us of the respnsibiluty to do everythng we possibly can to avert calmat.

      Still the trend toward tyrannical government overreach has been disturbingly evident for several decades. This is nothing new, so maybe we all should act sooner to avoid the increasingly painful burdens Big Government imposes.

      That's what I meant when I said "Not Reading the Handwriting on the Wall."

      The underlying problem, of course, is that most of us don't want to see or hear what we don't want to know. We always hope that "it" will just go away without any special effort on our part.

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    5. Another factor delaying my departure from Northern Virginia: I am primary breadwinner of the household, and my client base is here. **sigh**

      It takes forever to build a client base in my area of specialty.

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  8. I view this as monetized outrage kabuki, but I agree with the true outrage expressed by AOW.

    Unfortunately, most of us who disagree with the abuses of the various out-of-control governments that rule over us are too busy working and tending to families to marshal forces sufficient to really make a difference.

    Additionally, too many of our fellow voters are just fine with all this, or they have nothing and are not impacted. We all like free stuff, and as long as the good times keep rolling, we somnambulate.

    When it all comes crashing down, I pray whoever cleans up and starts over takes into account some lessons learned.

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    1. SF,
      Unfortunately, most of us who disagree with the abuses of the various out-of-control governments that rule over us are too busy working and tending to families to marshal forces sufficient to really make a difference.

      And, once "too much" time has passed, we cannot make a difference.

      Free stuff is a huge part of the problem.

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  9. I own MYSELF. I sometimes feel like I'm a BOAT on a calm sea, and things are good...much of the time I feel I'm a boat on the rapids, but I'm still that boat. Taxes are hateful but they fill my potholes, keep my freeways drivable, ...etc. We can't live without some regulations, taxation, etc..Sad, but true.

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    1. Z,
      We can't live without some regulations, taxation, etc..

      Some? Yes. But I'm being regulated to death here in Northern Virginia. I remember when life here wasn't like this. Did we have some "back yard" junk yards? Yes. But they were no big deal, really.

      I am miffed that I cannot subdivide here (2/3 acre) when all around me McMansions are sitting on 1/3 acre lots. Those mansions were built on property sold in 1981 or so. But now I can't "follow suit" because, as I was told by the engineer of the day in the county building: "You will exceed your carbon footprint."

      Huh?

      My house is less than 1/2 of the size of the mansions all around me!

      So far I'm blocked from the pursuit of happiness with my property. I now have a lawyer looking into this matter. We'll see what happens, but I am not hopeful. The bureaucracy here is deeply entrenched.

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  10. 1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

    2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.

    3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

    4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,

    5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

    6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.

    7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

    8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.

    9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.

    10 And Samuel told all the words of the Lordunto the people that asked of him a king.

    11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.

    12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

    13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.

    14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.

    15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.

    16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.

    17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

    18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day.

    19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;

    20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

    21 And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord.

    22 And the Lord said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city.
    - 1 Samuel Chapter 8

    Forming governments is the single greatest mistake humanity will never learn from.

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  11. KWITCHABITCHINANKOWNCHABLESSINS!

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  12. AOW, I feel your pain on taxation, personal property regulation, etc.
    Your anger is justified.
    It's just that this woman in this video is a bit over the top.
    I expected to be excoriated for my attack on her and am pleasantly surprised to see I wasn't.
    I took her at her words exactly as she spoke them.
    She moderates none at all. She is posing.
    I expect she expects remuneration from supporters of her Youtube channel, either directly or from Google ad sales.

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    1. Ed,
      She is a bit over the top.

      But that hyperbole provokes discussion, at least.

      I expected to be excoriated for my attack on her and am pleasantly surprised to see I wasn't.

      I don't excoriate commenters very often -- certainly not for disagreeing with what I've posted.

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  13. After watching those Gun grabbing, socialism loving, and higher taxes with more promises of we can keep our doctor clown car I think that the Democrats will be lucky to win California.

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  14. Drones just took out half of Saudi Arabias oil production...

    WWWIII has started Saudi v. Iran....

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    1. tRump will tamp it down. Imagine if one side hd nukes.

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    2. A defense treaty with Israel won't help. They've got nukes.

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    3. I wonder if Bolton's removal emboldened the Iranians...

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    4. FJ,
      I wonder if Bolton's removal emboldened the Iranians..

      Could well be!

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    5. FJ,
      WWWIII has started Saudi v. Iran....

      Probably.

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    6. Well, Bolton didn't want to surrender to the Taliban on 9/11 at Camp David, so we get these optics instead...

      I thought Trump understood stagecraft?

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    7. Ready to strike whoever the Saudis tell us to strike.

      Such leadership!

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    8. Only one country could have produced a drone with the required range and air defense evading capabilities (acquired from a captured US drone).

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    9. Intelligence involves assessing "capabilities". The Houthi/Yemeni's don't have the "capabilities" chops.

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  15. Ed (@ 7:24 am) + 1.

    Yes, oppressive taxation does control and force our hand. California had Proposition 13 (to slow our enabling of taxaholics) for the exact reason AOW cites in being pressured to moved plus all the nonsense land controls she also cites. And btw, AOW, that is exactly why we have been long-time benefactors of the Pacific Legal Foundation.

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    1. Baysider,
      The idea of anything like CA's Proposition 13 happening here is way, way off in the future. **sigh**

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