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Apparently, the secession of California from the United States remains a serious proposal — well, as serious a proposal as is possible from the California fringe. I thought that the idea Calexit was over and done with upon the departure of the Yes California leader, who went to Russia to live.
Now we read that the idea of Calexit continues.
From California secessionists think their path to independence is easier than Catalonia’s (dated October 12, 2017):
...The California Freedom Coalition is collecting signatures to get its ballot initiative in front of voters in 2018. It does not definitively say California will declare independence from the United States; it would repeal a provision in the state constitution that says California is “an inseparable part of the United States.” It also directs the governor to negotiate for greater autonomy from the federal government and establishes an advisory commission on California autonomy and independence.Read the rest HERE.
Marin said he knows California secession would still be incredibly difficult without the cooperation of the federal government, but believes California could “annoy” Congress into allowing California to go its own way.
“Our state government is very experienced at doing things that undermine the federal government without being unconstitutional,” Marin said, citing California’s sanctuary cities as an example.
Besides that, Marin sees a lot of similarities between the motivations of the secession movements. Both California and Catalonia have large economies that can compete on a global scale that secessionists feel could operate better if untethered from the national economy. Differences in ideology, disputes over spending of tax dollars by the federal government and a desire for more localized government control are also common threads, Marin said....
Read more at California Freedom Coalition.
Additional reading: Julian Assange and Russia are Offering Support to Fringe California Secession Movement (October 12, 2017).
What precipitated Calexit? According to New York Magazine: the election of President of Donald J. Trump!
In other words, another temper tantrum in reaction to the November 8, 2016 election results.
Well .... bye.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA
DeleteSpeaking of "EXITS" does anyone know what happened to BREXIT?
DeleteIt seems to have dropped off the radar screen after the British pols made sure it died aborning.
So much for any hope that Rpresentative Democracy may still be aive and well inthe West –– or anywhere else for that matter!
The UK is negotiating with the EU for a mutually-agreeable divorce settlement. It looks as if the process will take another two years.
DeleteI won't hold my breath, Mustang. I frankly doubt that BREXIT will ever happen. Too much hinkle-pinkling around spells DEATH to decisive action.
DeleteIt's the same with our congress's apparent unwillingness to get its act together and implement President Trump's agenda on gettng rid of Obamacare, The Wall (Illegal Immigration), and a dramatic overhaul of our Tax System –– an agenda that virtually all the GOP members of congress promised to fulfill during the last campaign.
We can't be accused of "impatience" when something has been promised for well over SEVEN YEARS, and is still not forthcoming.
"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" all right only it's not Denmark this time; it's the United States –– AND Great Britain.
Not just Cali
ReplyDeleteWhen the concept of a "UNION of INDEPENDENT, LOOSELY-FEDERATED INDIVIDUAL STATES" becomes an empty word because the ceaseless machinations –– first of the ABOLITIONISTS and later of so-called "PROGRESSIVES" (i.e. crypto-Marxists) –– towards the establishment of ever-increasing CENTRALIZED POWER, a splintering effect becomes inevitable.
DeleteA regime capable of bullying disparate regions with differing needs and diverse views into rigid conformance with the ONE-SIZE FITS ALL mentality of an authoritarian regime, many of the various regions would would eventually be BOUND to want to SEPARATE themselves from the oppressive, anti-Liberty Agenda of the power mad despots.
Whether we choose to acknowledge it or not, we are engaged in a Second Civil War right now.
May FREEDOM win!
They can't get gone fast enough. Cut them off so they can become North Mexico and forge an interplanetary alliance with Planet Moonbat 5.
ReplyDeleteLet em leave. Takes the threat to the US from North Korea off the table for a while.
ReplyDeleteI am a fervent believe in SELF-Determination.
ReplyDeleteThe Civil War should never have been fought.
If California really wants to leave the union, LET IT, but with the proviso that ALL the rights and privileges of U.S. CITIZENSHIP and ALL forms of FEDERAL AID and SUBSIDIES will henceforth be null and void.
But what are we o do with the still-fairly-large number of Californians who bote Republican?
Perhaps we should offer to RELOCATE them to any of the current RED states, and give them the modern moral equivalent of "Forty Acres and a Mule?"
Registurd DemonRats, of course, would NEVER be permitted even to VISIT the USA again.
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Democrats should not have fired on Ft Sumter.
DeletePerhaps not, Ed, but they certainly were PROVOKED.
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ReplyDelete@FT,
"But what are we o do with the still-fairly-large number of Californians who bote Republican?
Perhaps we should offer to RELOCATE them to any of the current RED states"
Well, that just might expedite California's plunge into Venezuela North!
YES!
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DeleteOnly a little over 4 million California voters (around 35%) voted Republican or Libertarian.
DeleteCalifornia is a one-party state.
How does one know anymore? The top two vote getters in a primary are the candidates in the General. I doubt there are many that make it to the General.
DeleteNot to contradict, but 35% is more than ONE-THIRD of all eligible voters. A minority to be sure, but how could we properly consider it a NEGLIGIBLE segment of the population?
DeleteFT: Eggs-ackly.
DeleteLet em leave. Takes the threat to the US from North Korea off the table for a while.
ReplyDeleteBring back the Articles of Confederation!
ReplyDeleteLong live Aratus, strategoi of the Achean League!
DeleteDemocrats always wanna secede when their cheap labor pools are threatened.
DeleteCALIFORNIA
ReplyDeleteIt's indeed too bad that what was, arguably, the most desirable piece of piece of real-estate, in the Nation, has come under control of the likes of: Waters, Pelosi, Moon Beam, et al. What the #e!! is in the water, out there?
Do you really want to know? Here's what I believe:
DeleteThe deliberate importation of far too many uneducated, unskilled, feeble, potentially welfare-deoendent, criminally-inclined non -whites, non-English-speaking people has caused a demographic shift that has spelled DISASTER for the Golden State.
This has cfreated a two-tier society comprised of the VERY RICH and the DIRT POOR with an ever0dminishing Middle Class being squeezed out of existence by outrageously high taxation, hugely inflated real estate prices and an overall cost of living so large it could easily turn David and Samson those super-heroes of biblical fame into quaking, drooling cowards.
FT,
DeleteHey, no argument here!
FT,
DeleteYou should have posted a spew alert with that one.
Truth is often very hard to take –– especially in this world now heavily dominated by reverence for Sin, Depravity, Dissension, and Corruption on every conceivable level.
DeleteOld NFO wrote this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073CFGDR7/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1498610049&sr=8-4&keywords=JL+Curtis&linkCode=sl1&tag=nobaskme-20&linkId=1fd4c855823a3cd9c24dd0877d7da04b
ReplyDeleteThe Amazon blurb for the above book by Old NFO:
DeleteA year after Calexit, the last US bases in Southern California are under siege, with their power and water cut off. Their perimeters are under constant probes by a now hostile nation. There is intelligence the government of California is planning a final all-out action to overwhelm the last bases and claim the spoils of victory for their own...
But the men and women in uniform aren't going to let their bases be overrun, especially after the murder of their dependents. This is their story, a novella of the last military withdrawal from California. And if there's one thing the Sailors and Marines are not going to do, it's go quietly!
Calexit. Oh God Yes. And don't call us asking for money.
ReplyDeleteWhy would they ask?
DeleteCalifornia is the sixth largest world economy and has one of the highest net federal outflows.
You seem confused.
Wait for the Tariff's.
DeleteActually Duck, they want a lot of federal relief from burning the place down and will want more for the next earthquake.
Deletehttps://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings
DeleteCalifornia continues to teeter on the brink of fiscal calamity. A state so a rich in natural resources and with silicon valley should be the #1 state economically. It is not.
Leftwingers destroy everything they get their grubby mitts on. That is an iron law globally and throughout history.
Take away the welfare recipients, military bases, government contracts, agricultural and corporate subsidies, and the 46% of the land in California that actually belongs to the federal government, and California is a debtor's prison. California economy? Where?
DeleteCalifornia's economy is actually #43 of 50 states in terms of fiscal solvency.
DeleteAs the peoples of #11 Missouri like to say, California's a buncha damn deadbeats.
broken link...
DeleteIs your state a deadbeat like California?
Did I forget to praise Google censorship?
DeleteTry this:
Deletehttps://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings
d'oh... that's Silverfiddle's link. Coffee... need coffee
Deletesaw Silverfiddle's Mercator link, thought of a different Mercator page, but it's the same page, updated.
Delete*Mercatus... this waking uo before noon on a Saturday gotta stop lol
Delete"You seem confused".
DeleteWait a minute; who seems to be confused? HINT: It isn't those who have submitted actual facts.
duck, what Jonberg said. hahahaaa like shooting dead fish in a barrel with you people. lol
DeleteCalexit? If they do they'll have to build their own wall to keep people and businesses IN
ReplyDeleteYes sir! Cal-i-PORN-ia has been hellbent to recreate the atmosphere of Stalin's U.S.S.R. for many decades now.
DeleteThe former GOLDEN STATE has become the BEHOLDEN STATE –– as in "YOU, the Resident Subject of The Socialist Union of California, owe The State EVERYTHING."
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HEY! It's good to see you our and about again, Viburnum. Long time no hear. Give us a ring sometime. FT
I wish blogger had up voting viburnum. Here's 50 up-votes.
DeleteViburnum,
DeleteGreat comment!
Good to see you here. Please don't be a stranger.
George Orwell's description in Homage to Catalonia of how Communist revolutionaries destroyed any place they inhabited is an apt metaphor:
ReplyDeleteThe whole barracks was in the state of filth and chaos to which the militia reduced every building they occupied and which seems to be one of the by-products of revolution. In every comer you came upon piles of smashed furniture, broken saddles, brass cavalry-helmets, empty sabre-scabbards, and decaying food. There was frightful wastage of food, especially bread. From my barrack-room alone a basketful of bread was thrown away at every meal — a disgraceful thing when the civilian population was short of it.
Today, he would write of trains and bridges to nowhere, bureaucratic sloth and waste, Wars on Poverty that increased the numbers of poor, programs to help the citizenry that helped no one but the politicians and the rent-seekers, states destroyed by pie-in-the sky budgets umoored from rationality and reality...
California is a one-party dry-drunk state barely keeping it between the lines. Calexit would be no loss. We can get our grapes, nuts and wine from Chile.
Friday, October 13, 2017 05:34PM
ReplyDeleteLOS ANGELES (KABC)
Gov. Jerry Brown declared a state of emergency over the deadly hepatitis A outbreak in California.
The emergency proclamation, which was issued by Brown on Friday, allows the state to increase its supply of hepatitis A vaccines in order to control the current outbreak.
Immunizations from the federal vaccine program have been distributed to at-risk populations in affected areas, but additional supplies are needed, according to a statement released by Brown's office.
The emergency proclamation gives the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) authority to immediately purchase vaccines directly from manufacturers and distribute them to impacted communities.
The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health declared a local outbreak of hepatitis A in September.
San Diego and Santa Cruz have also declared local outbreaks.
According to the CDPH, there have been a total of 18 deaths so far - all in the San Diego area, which has reported 490 cases of hepatitis A and 342 hospitalizations.
The CDPH said the Santa Cruz area has 71 reported cases and 33 hospitalizations; Los Angeles has 8 reported cases and 6 hospitalizations; and other regions in California have 7 reported cases and 5 hospitalizations.
This brings the total number of cases in the state to 576 with 386 hospitalizations.
California is experiencing the largest hepatitis A outbreak in the United States transmitted from person to person - instead of by contaminated food - since the vaccine became available in 1996.
According to the CDPH, the hepatitis A virus is spread when the virus is ingested by mouth from contact with hands, objects, food or drinks that are contaminated by the feces of an infected person. ...
Read the rest at DRUDGE.
God help the good people of California and a pox on the rest.
ReplyDeleteL.A. is basically a desert greenhouse where all of its water and most of its electricity comes from bordering States. The first Spanish Colony at L.A. starved to death.
Hepatitis A and other plagues will continue as long as you run a free range flop house with those seeking "sanctuary" dumping loads on the public streets as a "right" confirmed on them by the courts of the State of California.
Most of us knew that California was a figurative "open cess pit" but now the meaning has shifted and it is now a literal cess pit.
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