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Friday, December 16, 2016

Hacking Vs. Truth-Telling Leaks

[Note: I had another post queued up for today, but pulled it back in order to post on the matter below]

Apparently, WikiLeaks reveaeld some inconvenient truths about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

According to the narrative of the past few days, however, those leaks, said to have originated with Vladimir Putin — with the intent of electing Donald Trump to the Oval Office, interfered with the United States 2016 National Election.

Yesterday, Julian Assange of WikiLeaks issued this related statement (partial transcript HERE at Infidel Bloggers Alliance):

Also see Obama Didn’t Do More About Russian Hacking Because Thought Hillary Would Win, Didn’t Want Cyber War at Weasel Zippers, citing NBC News.

There is also THIS (dated December 15, 2016):
So now we find out that the CIA will not OFFICIALLY brief, and testify before the Congressional intelligence oversight committees over their intelligence on who, what and how, and if the election process was hacked in the USA.

Yesterday we have the Director of National Intelligence Clapper saying we have virtually no insight or evidence about the chain of events in which Wikileaks GOT the information they released, IN OPEN TESTIMONY....
Read the rest HERE.


  1. Some interesting dynamics at play with this issue. I would like to know more about the contact between the Trump campaign team and the Russian government. to see if there is any nexus with the e-mail hacks.

    - CI

  2. Interesting that it's the CIA stepping forward to "investigate" this and Russian influence in the election of Donald Trump. The media have been exposed as nothing more than a garbage dump of information, more designed undermine the election of Trump and overturn an election in which these media have lost all credibility.

    Interesting, too, that the head of the CIA, John Brennan is highly suspect since he's reputed to be a convert to Wahhabist Islam during a tour of duty in Saudi Arabia. It almost seems treasonous that he could even be appointed to that position.

    "The tell-tale signs were always there. When John Owen Brennan, who had served as Barack Obama’s deputy national security adviser was sworn in to head the Central Intelligence Agency, the Jesuit-educated former CIA officer opted to take the oath on a copy of the U.S. Constitution, not on the bible as every past CIA director, Christian and Jewish, had done. Brennan is also the highest-ranking U.S. official to have ever visited the Islamic holy city of Mecca, a privilege reserved only for pious Muslims and special guests of the Saudi King, who also serves as the “Guardian of the Two Shrines of Mecca and Medina.”

    Brennan served as the CIA’s station chief in Riyadh in the mid-1990s and in 1999, he worked himself up to the position of chief of staff to CIA director George Tenet. Obama wanted to appoint Brennan CIA director in 2009, but there was internal CIA and congressional opposition to his nomination. The reasons for the nomination were said to be Brennan’s involvement in “enhanced interrogation” techniques used against detainees after 9/11, but the actual reasons for the initial opposition remains unclear to this day. However, when the Senate voted to confirm Brennan in 2013, 34 senators voted no. They included Rand Paul (R-KY), who attempted to filibuster the confirmation vote; Ted Cruz (R-TX); Charles Grassley (R-IA); Patrick Leahy (D-VT); Mike Lee (R-UT); Jeff Merkley (D-OR); Bernie Sanders (D-VT); and Richard Shelby (R-AL). Barbara Boxer (D-CA) did not vote. What did these senators actually know about Brennan, especially the Democrats, who decided Brennan was not fir for the job?

    It is known that Brennan, both at the National Security Council and at the CIA, has forbid the use of the term “jihadist” to describe Islamist terrorists. He prefers the term “extremists.” There is now ample evidence to suggest that Brennan himself converted to Wahhabist Islam and considers himself a “jihadist,” or “holy warrior.”

    1. Brennan is not a Muslim. The specious accusations of that come entirely from one nexus, a disgraced FBI agent who was caught having sex with an informant. Rand Paul filibustered over Brennan's support of unregulated drone strikes.

      Swore his oath on the Constitution!?! Gads! If only every sworn official would do so.

    2. I guess you can believe what you want. There's plenty of info out there about his conversion to Wahhabist Islam during his tenure in Saudi Arabia.

      So he's not just any "Muslim" but rather member of an extreme sect of it. Put up your proof otherwise.

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    4. There is no proof that he is a Muslim....but feel free to believe that he is. All of the "info" stems from one guy, discredited FBI agent John Guandolo, and is carried only on websites that pursue the same specious agendas.

      That schtick fell flat with Obama too. The left provides enough actual perfidy....no need to invent more.

    5. John Guandolo is a former FBI agent who founded the consulation and training group, Understanding the Threat which is part of the inner core of the Islamophobia network.

      The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), an organization that tracks hate groups in America, describes John Guandolo as "a disreputable character, who regularly attacks the U.S. government, claims that the director of the Central Intelligence Agency is a secret Muslim agent for the Saudi government and says that American Muslims 'do not have a First Amendment right to do anything.'"

      That's info that I've just found on your John Guandolo. It's posted on the web site of CAIR (The Council of Islamic Relations). Seems there exists a long list of Islamophobes there as well.

      I guess we all pick our sources to believe, I think CAIR just may be on the biased side here, no?

    6. http://www.islamophobia.org/islamophobic-individuals/john-guandolo/75-john-guandolo.html

    7. If the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLAWC) doesn't like Mr. Guandolo, then I'm all FOR Mr. Guandolo.

      SPLAWC is BAD NEWS. Downright EVIL in fact.

      And YES, I most certainly DO believe in GUILT by ASSOCIATION., "Birds of a feather flock together."

    8. Yes Waylon.....CAIR is certainly biased, just like the organisations that comprise the Islamic boogeyman industry. Guandolo offers zero proof, but the industry has run with it nonetheless.

  3. What's up with Obama today. He's hi-jacked the airwaves of the country to deliver some sort of message that seems robotic and unfocused, rambling on and on in a stream of consciousness and his eyes look entirely unfocused.

    Maybe he was scarfing too much pizza at his favorite local pizzeria.

    1. Waylon,
      I watched some of that press conference. I agree that seemed robotic and unfocused and using stream of consciousness.

      In one portion of the speech, he blamed the media for covering "every tidbit" of WikiLeaks.

      But I think that he also stated that the "hacking" had no impact on actually counting the November 8 votes.

      BTW, I didn't watch the entire rambling speech, which of course started way after the scheduled start time. I had other things to do today.

    2. AOW, I didn't watch the whole speech either. I was just surprised that he was on almost every channel that I tuned. And from the parts that I did see he looked "out of it" almost like he had aan ear piece and was just relaying what he was told.

      Just my perception, though.

  4. This is all NONSENSE ginned up by D'RAT Operatives to try to UNDERMINE and DELEGITIMIZE Donald Trump's DECISIVE LANDSLIDE VICTORY in the ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

    We do ourselves a disservice by bothering to pay attention to it. It's a FARCE that I, personally regard as an insult to my intelligence. I think all of you should too.

    Since nearly everyone who works for the government in Dee Cee at every level is a DEMOCRAT, consequently not ONE of them has ANY credibility whatsoever when it comes to garbage like this.

    It's just GRIST for the MILL of the ENEMEDIA anyway. FOX by the way has JOINED the ENEMEDIA in case no one has noticed. FOX BUSINESS Channel is still relatively sane. I wonder how long that will be permitted to last?

    C-SPAN too in whom I've always had a lot of faith has JOINED the ENEMEDIA-D'RAT ALLIANCE also.

    What proof do I have?

    Oh PLEASE! All you have ti do is LISTEN to the kind of QUESTIONS the moderators ask, and the way they very deliberately STEER the conversation in an anti-Trump direction day after day after day. It's DISGUSTING.



    ~• A Visit with Pa Grouch •~

    'Twas two days before Christmas
    And Papa Grouch here
    Made a pact with the Devil
    To stay home this year.

    The cupboard was bare
    And the table unclad
    Because of this grumpy
    Self-centered old Dad,

    Who'd decided it all
    Was too much of a strain
    That denuded his wallet
    And caused him great pain.

    Mama was despondent
    The babe on her lap
    Did nothing but howl
    And spit up its pap.

    The children were mopey
    Their eyes sullen slits
    They thought Papa'd gone mad
    And had lost all his wits

    When on the front lawn
    There arose a great clatter
    The neighbors had come
    To see what was the matter

    With no wreath on the door
    Or lights on the eaves
    They thought Papa'd grown poor
    Or been looted by thieves

    So up to the housetop
    With garlands they climbed
    Stringing green'ry and lights
    Till they got all begrimed

    The ladies walked in
    With caskets of food
    Then set up a tree
    While the children they wooed

    With carols in harmony
    Sung at the door
    With lighted red candles
    That dripped on the floor.

    Then in marched Tom Turkey,
    Who went straight to the oven,
    Saying, "Pluck me and stuff me,
    I'm dyin' for lovin.'"

    He made not a squawk
    While they chopped off his head
    Plucked out all his feathers
    And stuffed him with bread

    And onions and apples
    And sausage and sage
    And quite enough butter
    To pay a week's wage.

    The cranberry mold
    Like a rubicund belly
    Shook and shimmered itself
    Like a gem made of jelly.

    The scent of cinnamon
    Ginger and pine
    Along with the turkey
    Smelled simply divine

    A baker on crutches
    Who only could hobble
    Said, "Soon that old bird
    Will be ready to gobble."

    The men midst cold ashes
    Placed branches for Yule
    Their crackling splendor
    A marvelous tool

    For cheering and warming
    Pa Grouch with his pain,
    Who was soon moved to say,
    "I've no right to complain.

    "With neighbors like you,
    I feel it's a shame
    I ever indulged
    A desire to maim

    "The Spirit of Joy,
    Good Will, and Good Cheer.
    I promise you all
    I'll be nicer –– NEXT YEAR."

    Then placing his thumb
    At the tip of his nose
    He waved them Good Night
    And to bed up he rose.

    But I heard him exclaim,
    As he moved past our sight,
    "Don't let the door hit your butt,
    When you leave. Now GOOD NIGHT!"

    ~ FreeThinke

  6. All Americans should feel a great deal of relief because Russia is on their knees. Obama drew a line in the sand and now Putin is in hiding.

    I for one believe Russia interfered with our elections. They hacked a kale salad bar and convinced the liberals in line to vote for DJT. They will believe anything but the truth. They had a worse candidate than DJT and they lost.

  7. "...the CIA will not OFFICIALLY brief, and testify before the Congressional intelligence oversight committees."

    Will not??? Congressional oversight is optional??? Voluntary?

    Congress has been long remiss in strapping on a pair of big brass ones and going after the drones. Contempt of Congress is not, after all, solely at the discretion, and province, of the DOJ.
    They do have their own authority. How else are they a co-equal branch of government?

    1. Viburnum,
      More evidence of the corruption of our federal government -- and the highest levels.

      Meanwhile, we who are peasants beyond the moat cannot possibly ignore a subpoena -- from any entity.

  8. If Obama was interested in a dastardly nefarious organization influencing the election he'd investigate the democrats in Wayne County and Ingram County in Michigan.
    More ballots than voters.
    So much so that the Jill Stein recount couldn't occur because so many ballot boxes couldn't be re-certified.
    The canvassers should be in jail awaiting bail.
    Then summarily executed for voter fraud and election rigging.
    After a fair trial.

  9. Has anyone told Obama he is on the way out the door? I didn't pick up that factoid during his presser. And yes, too much sniffing the white stuff IMO.

  10. Bunkerville typed in:

    too much sniffing the white stuff IMO

    My assessment is the same. He's showing some classic signs of cocaine use -- particularly delusions of grandeur.

    I did some speculating on the topic back in 2010. See Obama's Disappearing Acts.

    I'd love to see BHO drug tested.

    1. Sure, let's get Trump in on that too, since he exhibits the same delusions.

    2. CI,
      Drug test Trump, too. Won't find anything, though, IMO.

      Personally, I favor drug testing all the high-level federal employees and so-called "public servants."

      BTW, Trump doesn't show the same kinds of delusions as BHO's.

      Of course, a man with pockets as deep as Trump's is egotistical. Not a surprise to me. I know a few individuals with deep pockets, and all have delusions of grandeur on some scale. Comes with the territory, I suppose.

    3. BTW, Trump doesn't show the same kinds of delusions as BHO's.

      Yeah...we'll have to disagree on that. With Trump's petulant, thin skinned, nothing is ever his fault nature and pathological lying...not to mention his odd sniffing during one of the debates [which he then predictably lied about.....Trump's delusions are epic.

    4. On the topic of Trump's sniffling (Forbes):


      I doubt that he has a cocaine habit: he's not skinny.

      Of course, all this is speculation.

    5. We're stuck with TRUMP, which is infinitely better than Hillary, so I'm hoping against hope that at least we Conservatives GIVE IT UP and stop the criticism. He's got plenty coming from all corners. I do it, too, when he deserves it (which is often) but the kind of slamming insinuations that he's a coke user is NUTS. He doesn't even drink and everyone he's known for years says that.
      He did lie about the constant SNORT, however..during one of the debates. It made ME want to scream GET A KLEENEX!
      He has little dignity, he's thin skinned but he's our undignified, thin skinned president now and....he loves this country.
      Let's pray for better than the last 8 years.
      My biggest fear with the Russian and China things which have erupted lately is we knew with Obama we'd probably not go to war; we'd acquiesce, tuck our tails between our legs and hope for the best.
      To hear Kerry today saying how AWFUL the situation in Syria is today should rankle us all...where was HE??
      But today, with Trump threatening and pushing?
      Better to hide or better to threaten our enemies?

    6. Z,
      Let's pray for better than the last 8 years.


      We're stuck with TRUMP, which is infinitely better than Hillary, so I'm hoping against hope that at least we Conservatives GIVE IT UP and stop the criticism.

      Whatever Trump does or does not do, we Americans must stop our "addiction" to complaining and living in a state of outrage.

      BTW, have you read this at CNN, entitled Obama's year-end message: I did it right?

      And we have Michelle Obama saying that many Americans live without hope now that Donald Trump has been elected.

    7. I don't think we are stuck with Trump. I think we are very fortunate to have him. FWIW.

  11. Getting sick and tired of the whiners claiming that Bill's wife won the popular vote?
    Well...it's true....but only if you use the time honored Liberal method of claiming to be unable to connect the dots....
    ...in other words, refuse to include reality

    "But....but .....but....no proof!!!! No proof!!!"
    Of course there is no need for proof when they claim 'racism.'

    The spoiled brats have one set of requirements for themselves, and a different one for the other side.

    1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”

    Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.

    Richman applied those numbers to 2016:

    The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.

    Besides the noncitizens voting they found “1.8 million deceased individuals are Listed as had voted

    No one cares or focused on the noncitizens that voted,

    Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way

    Three million votes that were cast by illegal aliens,

    If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular

    votes by the dead, felons

  12. If truth telling is election hacking then obama is mother Teresa.

    CIA won't say? That's hilarious. No, we aren't saying. No other agency will back up their false claim either. And if anyone knows yes or no, it is the NSA.

    1. Kid,
      If truth telling is election hacking then obama is mother Teresa.

      The Dems are attempting to control the language (terms used) and thereby to control thought.

      I read somewhere that one of Assange's primary sources of the dirt on Hillary was a DNC insider. A Dem with a conscience? Could it be?


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