I was reading posts form friends who went to Lansing yesterday and their were complaints about people who got out of their cars. Some who defended them said that they were in the sunshine that killed the virus, a concept refuted by the article you linked.
At the signing of the Declaration of Independence, there were a few among the delegates who seemed to falter in their commitment. Observing this, Benjamin Franklin suggested that everyone must hang together in this endeavor. President of the Continental Congress, John Hancock replied, “If we do not hang together, we most assuredly will hang separately.”
We do not know whether Lansing’s demonstrators unnecessarily exposed themselves to the COVID-19 but if anyone must die, does it matter if it is by a virus or a totalitarian rope?
I'll be frank, I did not drive there because I thought the response would be weak, the cops would re-route traffic, I had a virtual class to teach (which I would have foregone) and I felt that sitting in cars wasn't as valid a protest as actually marching. Not the first time I was wrong.
One likely casualty of the Chinese Virus pandemic: The Global Green Agenda.
People got a big bad taste of economic destruction, privation, sacrifice and being lectured and pushed around by petty potentates, and they don't like it.
The Green Agenda would usher in an age of all of this, non-stop.
Couldn't read the piece. Got a nice picture with the headline and about twenty ads, but it would not scroll. New ads just kept popping up despite my Firefox ad blocker.
I'm using the current version of Firefox on Windoes 7. My computer cannot be upgraded to Windows 10, but some websites like to use the latest and greatest technology that only Windows 10 can fathom.
Jayhawk, My computer cannot be upgraded to Windows 10
That seemed to be the case with one of my machines, but I took it into Micro Center, which got the machine upgraded. Runs much better than on Windows 7, an OS that I loved a lot.
Well, yeah, as a programmer I should know better than to make such statements. I used to hear programmers say "A computer won't do that," when what they really meant was "yes, I can make it do that but you will have a heart attack when I tell you how much it will cost."
I would have to replace the CPU, double the RAM, increase the RAM speed, replace the hard drive, and replace the video board. The case can be reused. Not worth what it would cost.
Jayhawk, I understand what you mean. Too many issues!
My (2010? 2015?) PC didn't have those issues. The only issue it has is that one of the two DVD-R drives doesn't work. I didn't bother replacing that again; it had already been replaced once when the machine was relatively new.
Cost? $250, I think. Well worth it to the able to access my teaching and bookkeeping files, which date back to 1998.
Silver opined... "One likely casualty of the Chinese Virus pandemic: The Global Green Agenda."
To which I say maybe...
All across the globe we are seeing evidence of nature and clean air coming back. People in Kenya are disbelieving seeing their mountains, some for the first times in their lives. Wildlife is returning the the Yosemite Valley in large numbers as human visitors wane. Air is clearer in cities all across the US as people drive less.
For many, this pandemic, apart from everything else, is showing them what a world with less pollution looks like.
Perhaps this will have some ability to move us towards a more ecological sustainable place. Or at least drive us to look for a way to better balance the twins needs of good business/cleaner environment.
Pollution is a separate and distinct issue from the climate change hysteria. Nobody likes pollution.
I also agree with a point Jane Goodall made earlier this week: We need to stop encroaching on wild habitat. The world is a big place: We need to leave some of it untrammeled for the wildlife.
With all these consumer-driven "shortages" (toilet paper, paper towels, etc.), I've come to understand why my parents' and my grandparents' generations stocked up on things -- and kept things that "might come in sometime." Those generations went through the 1918 Flu and the Great Depression, times that saw shortages of many items.
I remain amazed that toilet paper and paper towels are still stripped from the shelves unless one goes to the stores right after those items are restocked.
I've also run into delayed arrivals from Amazon: coffee, dish-washing liquid -- to name two. **sigh**
My parents would be astonished at today's generation. And not in a good way. Complaint was not in their DNA, nor was the idea that solving one's problems was anyone else's responsibility.
AOW... here's what I've seen regarding TP products...
The US has a set capacity of 100%. Roughly X% historically is dedicated to home use and the rest goes into commercial use. Those type are manufactured differently and use different levels of products. Think of it like this...
At home, folks love Charmin. Schools and businesses use a less soft/cheaper grade, like those old tissue paper squares we grew with in the third grade bathroom.
Currently, with everyone at home, pepple are not accessing the latent supply of commercial sandpaper they would normally use. Or to put it another way, no one is using the pot at work.
So... more demand for Charmin, but no production capacity yet.
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Dated April 1,2020.
ReplyDeleteI first read that at April of the year 12020 :)
Thanks for doing my research for me. That's our radio topic next Saturday.
I was reading posts form friends who went to Lansing yesterday and their were complaints about people who got out of their cars.
ReplyDeleteSome who defended them said that they were in the sunshine that killed the virus, a concept refuted by the article you linked.
@ Ed
ReplyDeleteAt the signing of the Declaration of Independence, there were a few among the delegates who seemed to falter in their commitment. Observing this, Benjamin Franklin suggested that everyone must hang together in this endeavor. President of the Continental Congress, John Hancock replied, “If we do not hang together, we most assuredly will hang separately.”
We do not know whether Lansing’s demonstrators unnecessarily exposed themselves to the COVID-19 but if anyone must die, does it matter if it is by a virus or a totalitarian rope?
I'll be frank, I did not drive there because I thought the response would be weak, the cops would re-route traffic, I had a virtual class to teach (which I would have foregone) and I felt that sitting in cars wasn't as valid a protest as actually marching.
DeleteNot the first time I was wrong.
Okay, Frank it is from now on ... :-)
DeleteFrank and Earnest.
DeleteFrank in Detroit, Earnest in Chicago.
Your wife's in Detroit, and mistress Chicago? ;)
DeleteParaphrase of Samuel L Jackson in The Long Kiss Goodnight.
DeleteI musta missed that one. Thanks!
DeleteOne likely casualty of the Chinese Virus pandemic: The Global Green Agenda.
ReplyDeletePeople got a big bad taste of economic destruction, privation, sacrifice and being lectured and pushed around by petty potentates, and they don't like it.
The Green Agenda would usher in an age of all of this, non-stop.
Couldn't read the piece. Got a nice picture with the headline and about twenty ads, but it would not scroll. New ads just kept popping up despite my Firefox ad blocker.
ReplyDeleteJayhawk,
DeleteI'm not having that problem with viewing the page on a computer. Perhaps you're viewing the page on a SmartPhone?
I do have turned on my pop-up filter.
Computer worked fine here.
DeleteI'm using the current version of Firefox on Windoes 7. My computer cannot be upgraded to Windows 10, but some websites like to use the latest and greatest technology that only Windows 10 can fathom.
DeleteJayhawk,
DeleteMy computer cannot be upgraded to Windows 10
That seemed to be the case with one of my machines, but I took it into Micro Center, which got the machine upgraded. Runs much better than on Windows 7, an OS that I loved a lot.
Well, yeah, as a programmer I should know better than to make such statements. I used to hear programmers say "A computer won't do that," when what they really meant was "yes, I can make it do that but you will have a heart attack when I tell you how much it will cost."
DeleteI would have to replace the CPU, double the RAM, increase the RAM speed, replace the hard drive, and replace the video board. The case can be reused. Not worth what it would cost.
Jayhawk,
DeleteI understand what you mean. Too many issues!
My (2010? 2015?) PC didn't have those issues. The only issue it has is that one of the two DVD-R drives doesn't work. I didn't bother replacing that again; it had already been replaced once when the machine was relatively new.
Cost? $250, I think. Well worth it to the able to access my teaching and bookkeeping files, which date back to 1998.
Silver opined... "One likely casualty of the Chinese Virus pandemic: The Global Green Agenda."
ReplyDeleteTo which I say maybe...
All across the globe we are seeing evidence of nature and clean air coming back. People in Kenya are disbelieving seeing their mountains, some for the first times in their lives. Wildlife is returning the the Yosemite Valley in large numbers as human visitors wane. Air is clearer in cities all across the US as people drive less.
For many, this pandemic, apart from everything else, is showing them what a world with less pollution looks like.
Perhaps this will have some ability to move us towards a more ecological sustainable place. Or at least drive us to look for a way to better balance the twins needs of good business/cleaner environment.
Dave,
DeletePollution is a separate and distinct issue from the climate change hysteria. Nobody likes pollution.
I also agree with a point Jane Goodall made earlier this week: We need to stop encroaching on wild habitat. The world is a big place: We need to leave some of it untrammeled for the wildlife.
With all these consumer-driven "shortages" (toilet paper, paper towels, etc.), I've come to understand why my parents' and my grandparents' generations stocked up on things -- and kept things that "might come in sometime." Those generations went through the 1918 Flu and the Great Depression, times that saw shortages of many items.
ReplyDeleteI remain amazed that toilet paper and paper towels are still stripped from the shelves unless one goes to the stores right after those items are restocked.
I've also run into delayed arrivals from Amazon: coffee, dish-washing liquid -- to name two. **sigh**
My parents would be astonished at today's generation. And not in a good way. Complaint was not in their DNA, nor was the idea that solving one's problems was anyone else's responsibility.
DeleteAOW... here's what I've seen regarding TP products...
ReplyDeleteThe US has a set capacity of 100%. Roughly X% historically is dedicated to home use and the rest goes into commercial use. Those type are manufactured differently and use different levels of products. Think of it like this...
At home, folks love Charmin. Schools and businesses use a less soft/cheaper grade, like those old tissue paper squares we grew with in the third grade bathroom.
Currently, with everyone at home, pepple are not accessing the latent supply of commercial sandpaper they would normally use. Or to put it another way, no one is using the pot at work.
So... more demand for Charmin, but no production capacity yet.
And it's the same for paper towels.
Or so they say...
Dave,
DeleteThanks. That is a take I have not heard, but it sounds plausible.
Up votes for your comment on TP products.
DeleteFor art lovers and a good read (Ignore any leftism, and focus on the works of art instead):
ReplyDeleteMortality and the Old Masters: Once we are again free to wander museums, the objects won’t have altered, but we will have, and the casualties of the coronavirus will accompany us spectrally.
Great article AOW. Thanks for posting.
DeleteI found no leftism to ignore.
DeleteThe painting does make an interesting contrast to Goya's painting of thr court of Charles IV. especially the children.
Duck,
DeleteWell I did say "any."
Speaking of The Masters, A Dog of Flanders is a great movie. I like the 1999 version.
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