Q: Did Obama say we "are no longer a Christian nation"?
A: He said we are no longer "just" a Christian nation, but a nation of many other faiths as well. A chain e-mail drops that key word and thus changes the meaning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik "We are no longer a Christian nation....at least not "just"..." That was 8 years ago; even since then, our poor country's doing worse for the fact he needed to emphasize.
Obama, June 28, 2006 (prepared remarks): Given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.
That quote appears also on Obama's campaign Web site.
Unfortunately for Obama, he stumbled just a bit when he delivered the actual quote, as can be seen in the video of his speech, posted on YouTube by the Obama campaign. The way it actually came out was:
Obama, June 28, 2006 (as delivered): Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.
That wasn't as smoothly stated as he had intended, but the meaning remains clear to any reasonable person. Saying that the U.S. is not "just" a Christian nation carries the sense that it is both a Christian nation and more: a nation of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and nonbelievers as well. Furthermore, any survey of religious beliefs held by Americans will show that to be a factually correct statement. However, what the authors of this and similar mass e-mails have chosen to omit is the word "just," converting Obama's factual description of America's diversity of religious beliefs to a statement that some interpret as anti-Christian.
President Obama is not anti-Christian, he is a Christian himself. You see this country as "doing worse for the fact he needed to emphasize." That's because a person with negative outlook will always see evil when truth (and what Obama said is the truth) is spoken. This country's not "poor," but thinking that it is makes it so.
This Nation was founded on the Judeo/Christian Ethic, including the basis for our laws. Would you like to start including some Sharia law into the system? If not, why not?
Obama Uses Op-Ed in LA Times To Condemn 'Murder Of Egyptian Christians'
April 2015:
Obama White House Strongly Condemns The Murder Of Ethiopian Christians By ISIL Terrorists
December 2015: "President Obama issued a special Christmas statement to recognize "brutal atrocities" against Christian communities:
'During this season of Advent, Christians in the United States and around the world are preparing to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. At this time, those of us fortunate enough to live in countries that honor the birthright of all people to practice their faith freely give thanks for that blessing," said Obama...'
'Michelle and I are also ever-mindful that many of our fellow Christians do not enjoy that right, and hold especially close to our hearts and minds those who have been driven from their ancient homelands by unspeakable violence and persecution.'"
Clearwater, Forgot to thank you for taking time to provide that information. If you have links for those, I'd appreciate seeing those links so that I could read/listen in entirety,
Josh Earnest said that the bombings of Christians on Easter Sunday wasn’t just aimed at Christians because “if you look at the list of the dead, there are a lot of Muslims.”
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Any time a lot of Christians are killed, Obama also mentions “Muslims were killed, too.”...
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The Taliban has SAID they were targeting Christians on Easter Sunday…what more do our ‘experts’ need???
...it should be noted that Oklahoma City used building windows to depict crosses during the holidays as recently as 2010. The Empire State Building also displays festive lights during religious holidays (red, green and white for Christmas, pastal fades for Easter, blue and white for Chanukah) and Chicago's Daley Plaza has featured a Nativity Scene since 1984.
there's Ducky living in his dream world. Maybe you don't get the news we get because your leftwing media's not quite as honest? That could explain your inability to recognize the truth of what would happen were this to happen today...maybe?
This Nation was founded on the Judeo/Christian Ethic, including the basis for our laws. Would you like to start including some Sharia law into the system? If not, why not?"
I don't understand why I'm being asked this question since I've written nothing here about Sharia Law or the Constitution. I did post Obama's correct statement on the fact that America is not JUST a Christian nation but also a nation of Jews, Hindus, Muslims, and even atheists. What has that statement to do with my opinion about a Judeo-Christian influence on American jurisprudence or my opinion on Sharia Law?
This Nation was founded on the Judeo/Christian Ethic, including the basis for our laws. -------- English common law had nothing to do with it? The Magna Carta was less influential the the 10 Commandments?
Mr. Ducky's Here answered it. The American Constitution may have been influenced somewhat by a Judeo-Christian ethic, but the founding fathers were wise to leave religion completely out of it. There is no religious test for serving in our government.
"Why won't you answer the question?" --Mr. JonBerg
Is this a forum to exchange ideas or an Inquisition?
Sharia Law is the religious legal system governing the members of the Islamic faith. It is derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith.
Since I'm not a Muslim, it has nothing to do with me.
"I don't understand why I'm being asked this question"
I was just curious as to how in-to the "diversity" that you speak of, especially when it comes to Muslims. It doesn't seem to be working very well, here or in Europe where it's becoming more and more obvious, with reports that a preponderance of their population, in certain areas, support Sharia Law and are even practicing it.
Interesting! I am a native New Yorker, and was living just across the Hudson River attending high school in suburban New Jersey in 1956. I was in close touch with New York City back then, and have no memory of large lighted crosses on any of the skyscrapers.
However, I DO remember full, free, enthusiastic public support for all the important occasions oin the christian liturgical calendar.
Lighted crosses or no lighted crosses we were an entirely different country sixty years ago –– an unapologetically Christian culture in essence, though by no means anything resembling a theocracy.
"The best [remedy] for being sad," replied Merlyn…, "is to learn something. That is the only thing that never fails. You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at night listening to the disorder of your veins, you may miss your only love, you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics or know your honor trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for it then -- to learn. Learn why the world wags and what wags it. That is the only thing which the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be tortured by, never fear or distrust, and never dream of regretting."
"Clearwater" is obviously one of the army of leftist irritants who troll the blogosphere and consider themselves "rational."
They all sound so much alike it's easy to imagine they are all the same person or part of "seminar" club. But that's probably not true.
Leftists are the foremost proponents of GroupThink, so they qualify as brainwashed zombies zealously marching towards towards Doom while doing their best to drag the rest of us along with them.
Fortunately RESISTANCE is NOT FUTILE.
If you are wise enough to iIGNORE them, they will soon DIE, because they thrive only in attention.
Don't worry. The practice of lighting New York City skyscrapers to honor religious holidays is alive and well. They light up the Empire State Building now to honor Muslim holidays! Allahu Akbar!
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That was [then], this is [now]!
ReplyDeleteOBAMA: "We are no longer a Christian Nation" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik
Q: Did Obama say we "are no longer a Christian nation"?
DeleteA: He said we are no longer "just" a Christian nation, but a nation of many other faiths as well. A chain e-mail drops that key word and thus changes the meaning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik
Delete"We are no longer a Christian nation....at least not "just"..."
That was 8 years ago; even since then, our poor country's doing worse for the fact he needed to emphasize.
Obama, June 28, 2006 (prepared remarks): Given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.
DeleteThat quote appears also on Obama's campaign Web site.
Unfortunately for Obama, he stumbled just a bit when he delivered the actual quote, as can be seen in the video of his speech, posted on YouTube by the Obama campaign. The way it actually came out was:
Obama, June 28, 2006 (as delivered): Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.
That wasn't as smoothly stated as he had intended, but the meaning remains clear to any reasonable person. Saying that the U.S. is not "just" a Christian nation carries the sense that it is both a Christian nation and more: a nation of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and nonbelievers as well. Furthermore, any survey of religious beliefs held by Americans will show that to be a factually correct statement. However, what the authors of this and similar mass e-mails have chosen to omit is the word "just," converting Obama's factual description of America's diversity of religious beliefs to a statement that some interpret as anti-Christian.
President Obama is not anti-Christian, he is a Christian himself. You see this country as "doing worse for the fact he needed to emphasize." That's because a person with negative outlook will always see evil when truth (and what Obama said is the truth) is spoken. This country's not "poor," but thinking that it is makes it so.
@CF,
DeleteThis Nation was founded on the Judeo/Christian Ethic, including the basis for our laws. Would you like to start including some Sharia law into the system? If not, why not?
February 2015:
DeleteObama Uses Op-Ed in LA Times To Condemn 'Murder Of Egyptian Christians'
April 2015:
Obama White House Strongly Condemns The Murder Of Ethiopian Christians By ISIL Terrorists
December 2015: "President Obama issued a special Christmas statement to recognize "brutal atrocities" against Christian communities:
'During this season of Advent, Christians in the United States and around the world are preparing to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. At this time, those of us fortunate enough to live in countries that honor the birthright of all people to practice their faith freely give thanks for that blessing," said Obama...'
'Michelle and I are also ever-mindful that many of our fellow Christians do not enjoy that right, and hold especially close to our hearts and minds those who have been driven from their ancient homelands by unspeakable violence and persecution.'"
Clearwater,
DeleteMore than twice?
Clearwater,
DeleteForgot to thank you for taking time to provide that information. If you have links for those, I'd appreciate seeing those links so that I could read/listen in entirety,
In case he doesn't come back by.....
Deletehttps://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/12/23/statement-president-persecuted-christians-christmas
According to this blog post at Z's site:
DeleteJosh Earnest said that the bombings of Christians on Easter Sunday wasn’t just aimed at Christians because “if you look at the list of the dead, there are a lot of Muslims.”
[...]
Any time a lot of Christians are killed, Obama also mentions “Muslims were killed, too.”...
[...]
The Taliban has SAID they were targeting Christians on Easter Sunday…what more do our ‘experts’ need???
Before leftwing Chrisophobes and verminous ACLU lawyers took over...
ReplyDeleteImagine what would happen to the owners of those bldgs should that happen today?
DeleteLet me guess, nothing.
DeleteSomeone would whine. No legal recourse for those whiners, though.
DeleteAre any of those "lighted" offices occupies by federal agencies? A liberal hacktivist would find out and sue...
DeleteGood write up at Snopes
Delete...it should be noted that Oklahoma City used building windows to depict crosses during the holidays as recently as 2010. The Empire State Building also displays festive lights during religious holidays (red, green and white for Christmas, pastal fades for Easter, blue and white for Chanukah) and Chicago's Daley Plaza has featured a Nativity Scene since 1984.
Duck,
DeleteWere you disappointed that Snopes didn't declare that the photo in the body of the blog post was a fake? Just askin'.
I was not surprised to find it authentic.
DeleteI don't have any quarrel with public displays. I particularly enjoy nativity displays at Christmas.
there's Ducky living in his dream world. Maybe you don't get the news we get because your leftwing media's not quite as honest? That could explain your inability to recognize the truth of what would happen were this to happen today...maybe?
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ReplyDelete"the rest of us can't wait to vote you out of existence"
DeleteThat sums up the progressive mindset that worships our pothead president.
The left wing goose-steppers would march us all off to reeducation camps if they could.
Nah. Public school will suffice.
DeleteThose windows will light up again... with green crescents!
ReplyDeleteMoe,
DeleteHaven't they already been lighted up with green for Ramadan?
There's nothing stopping privately owned buildings from recreating a similar skyline today.
ReplyDeleteHow about government 'tenants'? Could THEY stop it?
DeleteI'd reckon no; if the government does not own the property.
Delete"JonBergMarch 28, 2016 at 1:39:00 PM EDT
ReplyDelete@CF,
This Nation was founded on the Judeo/Christian Ethic, including the basis for our laws. Would you like to start including some Sharia law into the system? If not, why not?"
I don't understand why I'm being asked this question since I've written nothing here about Sharia Law or the Constitution. I did post Obama's correct statement on the fact that America is not JUST a Christian nation but also a nation of Jews, Hindus, Muslims, and even atheists. What has that statement to do with my opinion about a Judeo-Christian influence on American jurisprudence or my opinion on Sharia Law?
Why won't you answer the question?
DeleteThis Nation was founded on the Judeo/Christian Ethic, including the basis for our laws.
Delete--------
English common law had nothing to do with it?
The Magna Carta was less influential the the 10 Commandments?
Mr. Ducky's Here answered it. The American Constitution may have been influenced somewhat by a Judeo-Christian ethic, but the founding fathers were wise to leave religion completely out of it. There is no religious test for serving in our government.
Delete"Why won't you answer the question?" --Mr. JonBerg
Is this a forum to exchange ideas or an Inquisition?
Sharia Law is the religious legal system governing the members of the Islamic faith. It is derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith.
Since I'm not a Muslim, it has nothing to do with me.
The duck takes trolling lessons from Jean-Luc Godard...
Delete"I don't understand why I'm being asked this question"
DeleteI was just curious as to how in-to the "diversity" that you speak of, especially when it comes to Muslims. It doesn't seem to be working very well, here or in Europe where it's becoming more and more obvious, with reports that a preponderance of their population, in certain areas, support Sharia Law and are even practicing it.
Clearwater,
DeleteAn Inqusition? Good grief!
Jon asked you a question. He did NOT put you on the rack.
Or did he? Pleading for a thoughtful response does seem to cause pain in the uninitiated.
Delete;)
English common law wasn't influenced by Biblical guidelines?
DeleteWho knew?
Swing for the fences. Ducky.
Beamish,
DeletePleading for a thoughtful response does seem to cause pain in the uninitiated.
LOL! He must be a newbie.
The Magna Carta was even halfway as important as the 10 Commandments? IS THIS A JOKE?
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DeleteInteresting! I am a native New Yorker, and was living just across the Hudson River attending high school in suburban New Jersey in 1956. I was in close touch with New York City back then, and have no memory of large lighted crosses on any of the skyscrapers.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I DO remember full, free, enthusiastic public support for all the important occasions oin the christian liturgical calendar.
Lighted crosses or no lighted crosses we were an entirely different country sixty years ago –– an unapologetically Christian culture in essence, though by no means anything resembling a theocracy.
FT,
DeleteLighted crosses or no lighted crosses we were an entirely different country sixty years ago...
So true!
As far as I can tell, there's no going back. "You can't go home again." **sigh**
"The best [remedy] for being sad," replied Merlyn…, "is to learn something. That is the only thing that never fails. You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at night listening to the disorder of your veins, you may miss your only love, you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics or know your honor trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for it then -- to learn. Learn why the world wags and what wags it. That is the only thing which the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be tortured by, never fear or distrust, and never dream of regretting."
ReplyDelete~ T. H. White
Our special snow flakes would find this a micro aggression and take to their beds.
ReplyDelete"Clearwater" is obviously one of the army of leftist irritants who troll the blogosphere and consider themselves "rational."
ReplyDeleteThey all sound so much alike it's easy to imagine they are all the same person or part of "seminar" club. But that's probably not true.
Leftists are the foremost proponents of GroupThink, so they qualify as brainwashed zombies zealously marching towards towards Doom while doing their best to drag the rest of us along with them.
Fortunately RESISTANCE is NOT FUTILE.
If you are wise enough to iIGNORE them, they will soon DIE, because they thrive only in attention.
That picture was taken back when the world was black and white.
ReplyDeleteI can believe it. They were talking biblical when we landed on the moon in 1969. Then the commies took charge of the media and education.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry. The practice of lighting New York City skyscrapers to honor religious holidays is alive and well. They light up the Empire State Building now to honor Muslim holidays! Allahu Akbar!
ReplyDelete