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Friday, May 14, 2021

Masks Off!

But only if fully vaccinated:
Are we going to be on an honor system, or are we going to have to wear our vaccination cards on lanyards to gain admittance to certain places or if in certain situations?

68 comments:

  1. As you noticed it is unworkable, practically. Only reason I can see for doing it this way would be to provide a carrot to encourage more vaccination.

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  2. There is little proof that masks do much of anything, at least the ones most people are using. N95's may help as one gasps for air. The vaccine? Iffy here in our community. Last I heard 5 people have come down with Covid that had been vaccinated. But it is said their cases were mild. Good luck all.

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  3. This is the part that struck me: "...or wear a mask until you do."

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  4. I will not wear a mask. If someone asks to see my vaccination card, including a police officer, I will politely respond that this is not Nazi Germany where you can demand to see my papers. (I will show my driver's license to a police officer upon request.)

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    1. The resistance from the pro-COVID crowd is not something easily policed.

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    2. @Ronald. Same for moronic leftist comments.

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    3. Jayhawk: Only when driving.
      Silverfiddle: Amen.

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  5. He is a dictator. And I don't know about any of you, but I still haven't been able to ascertain how "TRUMP BOTCHED THE COVID PANDEMIC".....can someone explain how?
    Thankfully, since the vaccine, San Francisco had 10 cases yesterday...amazing results. Other hospitals are reporting cases way down and the few who get it after vaccinations are not getting very sick. Also, there are tests now which show the vacc is also helping against variants....ALL GOOD. THank GOD.
    But, Trump BOTCHED IT.....we didn't know much about it then, did we. If TRUMP BOTCHED IT, FAUCI did, too, but he's the hero of the Left now.

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    1. Trump did exactly what he was chartered to do, close the borders to infected areas and get to work on providing the states with whatever relief they might need. He then left further specific measures up to the states. If you don't like the precautions that the states took, blame your Governor, not Trump.

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    2. Ehhhh.

      Not being possessed by the morbid and traitorous hatred of all things American required to be a Trump supporter, I feel no particular need to sift the dunghill that was the worst President the United States will ever have in search of ethereal positive things to say about his making America's Covid-19 death toll the greatest in the world.

      It's not like last year didn't happen, ya'll. The history of the Sudafed-snorter-in-Chief's bungled response to the pandemic is meticulously detailed from his buffoonish declarations that the coronavirus was a hoax on to his downright Satanic demanding a quid pro quo of sycophancy from blue state governors seeking federal relief and supplies. He even delayed the issuance of stimulus money to get his name / signature printed on checks from the IRS.

      No, the buck stops at the President's desk. The imbecile didn't even have the logistics drawn up for distributing the vaccines the Germans at Pfizer came up with.

      F_ck Trump.

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    3. The great thing about the market is that it doesn't need a centralized government's distribution plan. Demand resides where demand is.

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    4. @ Farmer: BOOM!

      We have a medical logistics network already in place, thanks to the free market.

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    5. Meanwhile back in reality there were PPE and ventilator shortages everywhere, no organized contact tracing whatsoever, an executive branch shirking all leadership responsibilities and actively undermining public information efforts. Analysis low-ball estimates that 40% of the people Trump's sabotage killed with Covid19 died needlessly.

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    6. So where'd they run out of PPE? Ventilators? All Trump did was to cut down on the State hoarding and move supplies to where they were needed. Thankyou, Mr. President. You saved us hundreds of billions.

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    7. We have non-political, permanent bureaucracies to handle all that. They failed. Blaming President Trump is facile and whiny.

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    8. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/medical-device-shortages-during-covid-19-public-health-emergency

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7531934/

      You can be informed, or you can fellate Trump. There is no overlap.

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    10. Every item on the list had a limitted supply available. They didn't run out of a single item. Now either thank DJT or suck his d*ck. There are no alternatives.

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    11. TC: There was nothing in your linked information that supports your constant whine that it was President Trump's fault.

      In fact, you have supported my position, so I'll repeat it:

      We have non-political, permanent bureaucracies to handle all that. They failed. Blaming President Trump is facile and whiny.

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    12. @ SF:
      That's what happens when you have someone who's only contribution to the country is the tax they pay on consumable liquor and bile. Some seem to drink aqua-velva to avoid the tax.

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    13. Impressive lack of reading comprehension skills. It's redundant to call you Trump supporters.

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    14. Your inability to compose a cognisant sentence doesn't reflect on my comprehension skills.
      Perhaps you should read what you post.

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    15. I posted links to reports from two federal agencies documenting the failures of the Trump administration in distributing protective and medical equipment during the ongoing national emergency of the Covid19 pandemic. They are very detailed, and are very critical of the Trump administration. Concurrent with that history are the masses of reports of supply shortages and non-responsiveness from government agencies tasked with stockpiling emergency supplies - all of which are agencies under the Executive branch of the federal government, the head of which was, at the time, President Donald J. Trump. The math is solid there. If Executive branch administration fails, and Trump was the head of the Trump administration (puppetry in foreign policy from Russia aside) then A = A. The failure of the Trump administration is the Trump administration's failure. We're not talking about Russia shoving the Monroe Doctrine up Trump's ass in Venezuela, which is bad enough. We're talking about a national emergency on our own soil that let us all experience the apathy Puerto Rico did when struck by a hurricane, but exponentially more heinous.

      Trump was, and likely will eternally be the worst President America has ever had. There is no clean end of the turd there.

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    16. One report mentions Trump, it was an unsubstantiated opinion, and by the way, look at who it was written by.

      It's government toilet paper.

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    17. It acknowledges the failures of the Trump administration in its response and handling of medical supplies. It was produced by a Trump administration agency during the Trump administration.

      Maybe Trump would have squashed these reports if he possessed a greater than 7th grade vocabulary, but here we are.

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  6. Z asked... "I still haven't been able to ascertain how "TRUMP BOTCHED THE COVID PANDEMIC".....can someone explain how?"

    I think a case can be made that Trump publicly underestimated the severity of Covid. At every turn, he downplayed the danger and even contradicted the medical community.

    He frequently over promised on testing, even saying in early March that "everyone who wants a test can get a test."

    That clearly was not true.

    I also don't think his admin did a good job getting those tests to the American people. A better job here would have given medical leaders eyes into where the virus was thriving and enabled us to better target shut downs, medical care and resources.

    He did a lot of things right, including the herculean effort to make sure we got the vaccines we are now using. But he had no coordinated plan to roll those vaccines out. Trump should also get credit for his efforts to get aid and help into New York City at a time when no one really knew what was happening.

    His admin moved mountains to help that state/city.

    In the end, at least for me, he gets high marks on somethings. But his decision to mislead and downplay the severity of Covid probably led to more deaths than we might have seen with a different approach.

    But at the end of the day, I say this... Thanks President Trump for the push for effective vaccines and Thanks President Biden for a successful rollout of those vaccines.

    America is better because of the work of both of those presidents.

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    1. In June 2020, Trump told an audience in Tulsa on live camera: “When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.”

      A month later, Vanity Fair reported a senior Trump official saying that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, more testing nor a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,”.

      Aside from Trump’s timeline of constant lies and mismanagement as well as his upending of a pandemic response team and disregard of a pandemic playbook in place for him, the above can be interpreted as genocide or crimes against humanity for no other reason than political gain.

      Trump should be either behind bars or dangling from a rope.

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    2. Why slow down the testing? In January of 2021 WHO changed the test.

      Even though they’ve been widely used across the U.S. and around the world to determine who has a positive case of COVID, PCR assays are not designed to be used as diagnostic tools, as they can’t distinguish between inactive viruses and “live” or reproductive ones.

      Besides that, previously, the WHO had recommended 45 “amplification” cycles of the test to determine whether someone was positive for COVID or not.

      The thing is, the more cycles that a test goes through, the more likely that a false positive will come up — anything over 30 cycles actually magnifies the samples so much that even insignificant sequences of viral DNA end up being magnified to the point that the test reads positive even if your viral load is extremely low or the virus is inactive and poses no threat to you or anyone else.

      What that means in plain language is that the more cycles a test goes through, the more false positives that are reported.

      Now, with the WHO’s lower PCR thresholds, it’s practically guaranteed that COVID “case” numbers will automatically drop dramatically around the world.


      The experts had been wrong the wholes time. Science is a lack of faith in experts.

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    3. Hi, Dave....I think NOBODY knew much about COVID and that Trump being there every single day for weeks on TV updating was good.
      I think Fauci made more mistakes than he did but I do agree that saying that "stop the testing!" was dumb. I also just watched the video of him saying it and, to me, once I get past his bravado (the BEST at ventilators, the BEST at...oy), it looks like he said it as a joke; His tone TOTALLY changes when he says it....it's SO self evident that nobody could mean that. But, I know Trump haters go that way, and I give him a break mostly because of the WAY he said it....I'm not a fan of his personality but BOY, were we better off before Biden. Borders, economy, employment, Black college financial help...you name it. By the way, I'd ABSOLUTELY have downplayed the severity were I president at the time; People were scared to death and were being told to be careful, and how to be careful, and knowing that, I'd still have shown optimism even if I wasn't. It's what a leader does. This "DARK WINTER" stuff doesn't work with Americans.
      You know, Dave, it was good to read the things you agree with Trump on; when you're fair, when any side is fair, it's eaSier to discuss things fairly and truly. Thanks!

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    4. A leader shows optimism without encouraging people to ignore the precautions.

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    5. Trump's blather and bombast lost him the election.

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    6. @SF - Even against a predictably polarizing Leftist [whoever they're going to trot out in 2024], Trump seems intent on the GOP losing the next election as well....whether he runs or not.

      Well said Jez. We don't teach Leadership [or Civics] in this country anymore.

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    7. A fair accounting of the four years America was run by a puppet of the Russian government quickly answers the stupid vs. evil question. Trump wasn't stupid.

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    8. TC is really happy now. They're going to let him vote for Lynn Cheney in 2024.

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    9. There are far worse Republican candidates to write-in. Lynn Cheney's going to have to lean in to the 14th Amendment and get the rest of the insurrectionists out of the Capitol building.

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    10. There surely also must be better.....ones who are not pro-torture and anti-Liberty.

      Does the GOP have any actual Conservatives to offer up for 2024?

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    11. Funny how many missiles get launched against Israel the moment Biden ships $240 million in aid to the Palestinians... and how you neocon wannabes think it would be different under a "conservative" president. lol!

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    12. CI - we've not had a conservative president since 1929. At this point the best we can ask of the GOP is "not delusional." Not gonna happen in the party of Majorly Trailerpark Greene. Do you do enough meth to vote Republican?

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    13. FJ - Israel should ask Russia how they pulled off levelling Grozny.

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    14. @TC - I no longer ask anything of the GOP. They've let down the Republic far too many times.

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    15. In 1948, the UN stepped in and prevented a final resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. 73 Years later, it remains on smolder and UNresolved. UN has a new meaning.

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    16. @CI - the Republican Party seems to have wedded its electoral fate to the guy that got them expelled from two of the three branches of the federal government who currently barely has the national approval of less than 1 of every 3 Americans, with a national party membership now totalling less than the number of registered independents. To say nothing of registered Democrats, who outnumber registered Republicans by some 13%. All that's left of the Republican Party are those that would vote for Dog the Bounty Hunter if he slapped a R behind his name. It's kinda silly to speculate about the future of a party that doesn't have one.

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  7. RONALD, Biden is destroying everything so fast it was breathtaking to read your comment...but kind of fun! Ya, let's let Trump dangle for having got that vaccine out so much faster than ANYBODY could have done....let's keep lying about the border being closed (!), let's destroy jobs, let's pay enough that nobody wants to go back to work, Mao! Hilarious. Good luck with that. :-0

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    1. Z, to be clear, my rebuttal of Trump’s handling of COVID has nothing to do with your perspective of Joe Biden or of his policies.

      A ranting screed of Biden does not exonerate Trump of his abject failures and profound murderous intentions related to COVID.

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    2. Right, Ronald, and I felt I wanted to add my perspective on Biden's horrific policies...how people can't see that the borders were under control, the economy had the least amount of unemployed in a long time, Black colleges got wonderful financing, the Middle East was on a good path, etc, is beyond me. That's what happens when one watches only MSNBC or CNN and doesn't get both sides of every subject like one gets on FOX...which is why so many Democrats have turned to it.
      there were no more 'abject failures' by Trump than Fauci....'murderous intentions'? :-) hilarious.

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    3. I’ve said many times that Trump could travel the country lobbing hand grenades into maturity wards or machine gun bus loads of kindergartners in broad daylight and on live camera with an admission of doing it again and his followers would adamantly defend him while blaming Democrats.

      To review, Trump stated to a live audience and on live camera that he ordered the slowing of COVID testing for no other reason than it being politically advantageous. Shortly after, his administration admitted that because casualties were showing in NY and other Democratic states, expedited testing and other medical assistance would not be beneficial to Trump as the blame would fall on Democratic mayors and governors.

      Almost 600,000 Americans have died.

      Almost 600,000 Americans have died.

      What does it take for Trump cultists to pull their heads out of the ass of the false god they worship?

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    4. Digging up Ashli Babbitt's corpse and removing it from American soil would be a good start.

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    5. Removing you from American soil, has a better sound to it.

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    6. Guess you'll have to settle for spreading Covid to your family.

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  8. alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com has been reported as a deceptive site. You can report a detection problem or ignore the risk and go to this unsafe site.

    I had to jump through a couple of hoops to get here.
    I had to click > go to this unsafe site.
    I filled out the report saying that the report was bogus.

    Someone has forgotten the stupid Mayor of New York and Governor of New York and several DemocRat Politicians saying
    Trump was way to over reacting.
    They said there is no such emergency.We need people to keep going to their business. San Fran Nancy Pelocey said Trump was stupid for proclaiming a Pandemic.
    How quickly these Trump Haters forget what the Evil Dems SAY.

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    1. TS/WS,
      alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com has been reported as a deceptive site. You can report a detection problem or ignore the risk and go to this unsafe site.

      Huh?

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    2. TS/WS,
      I filled out the report saying that the report was bogus.

      Thank you!

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    3. TS/WS,
      I just got the message. What's going on?

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    4. Someone has tagged you!

      The Speech Police are HERE!!!!!

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  9. A while back I told you all here, I think, I know I said it over at Kids place.
    When the Affordable Health Care is attacked - the Dems would drop a pandemic on us, to make us beg for health care.
    Then Trump just had to win a court case that ruled no more Tax for not buying AHC.
    Then he made Jerusalem the Capitol; and helped fortify Israel.
    Well that was the last straw. Trump had to be stopped.
    THE DEEP STATE finger prints are all over this.
    I said that after Biden takes office Israel would
    be attacked less than 6 months. Well here it is less than
    4 months.
    Now we find out Facui helped fund the Lab.
    And the LAB Should have been A LEVEL 4 lab.
    Now we find out it was A LEVEL 2 lab.
    There is a Doctor in Houston who has his own talk spot on
    700 AM Radio.
    And he was a guest on the 7am to 9am (Central Time) host spot, on 700 am Radio
    Cris Salvada-who is also on News Max TV at 4pm.
    The Doctor saying all kinds of things like I do.
    He is a bonified Doctor, with research.
    If you have time - one can go to KSEV Radio web site,
    and go to Cris Salvada's page that has PodCast.
    And listen to the Doctor's interview, and listen
    to what the Doctor says about Covid - 19.

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  11. Chris Salcedo

    Click 5-12-21.Hr 2. Fast forward to 28:16 on the sound graph.
    And be amazed.

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  12. Medical Apartheid. Period.

    What Trump should have said instead of slow the testing, was "re-norm the tests so results can be trusted." We all know that they've been running the PCR tests at far to many cycles to be accurate (40-45). Even the pitiable Dr. Fauci says 33 cycles is just "junk." CHANGO - suddenly, per the CDC, for people who have been vaccinated and get Covid, they will only accept tests with 28 or fewer cycles.

    Let that sink in. FEWER CASES! When you're vaccinated and get Covid the standard for determining that is much, much stricter than with the testing that's been going on for the last year which picks up any tiny piece of a corona virus. THE 'LEGISLATED' CONCLUSION: gee, vaccinated people get Covid at a much lower rate. Last August when the NYT re-normed test results in 4 states in the NE, the number of cases dropped by 90%. If you torture the data enough it will confess to anything.

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  13. I forgot to tell you I did a second report.
    In it I ask: how can you block a site without looking at it.
    If I said google is a dangerous site would google block it's own site?
    Now we can visit AOW with out any warnings.
    I don't know if it was something I said or someone else.

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  14. What are we going to do when next week flip flop falsi is told to change direction and recommend masks at all times especially when alone

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