One of the dead is Saffie Rose Roussos, an eight-year-old girl:
From the Express UK:
The number of potential terrorists being watched in the UK at the time of the Manchester bombing has swelled to nearly 3,500 - but...security services are using powers to monitor them LESS than they did a year ago...Read the rest HERE.
In Z's blog post today, she asks these questions:
IS THERE A WAY OUT FOR EUROPE? ARE WE EVER GOING TO LEARN FROM THEM? YOU HAVE ALL HEARD WHAT HAPPENED IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND BY NOW. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE THIS … EXPERTS ARE SAYING IT’S BECAUSE WE’RE GETTING SO TOUGH OVER THERE THAT THE EXPERT BOMBERS WILL BE COMING TO THE WEST.(hat tip to Z for the second graphic in this blog post)
THINK THIS WILL EVER END?
Theresa May is the latest grey-skinned reptile to get in front of the cameras to recite time-worn banalities after yet another terrorist attack by a dirty miscreant who was "known to the authorities"...
ReplyDeleteSo sorry, Theresa old dear, they've already won, because feckless, ball-less "leaders" like you allowed them to breach the walls and smash the gates of Western Christendom off their ancient hinges. A sickening succession of stupid, irresponsible, guilt-complex western apparatchiks dithered while islamist extremists sapped our foundations.
They are here, and they are winning, thanks to the pusillanimous pissants and the criminally-incompetent "experts" who have driven Western Civilization's finances, culture and the working class into the toilet.
Western governments tolerate rabid hate preachers poisoning the minds of others. Western governments are too weak and scared to drag those theocratic throwbacks out of their hate temples by their filthy beards and prosecute them for fomenting hatred and violence and imprisoning people in cages of obscurantism, conspiratorial suspicion and passive-aggressive persecution-complex-stoking.
Stupid Western governments welcome returning ISIS volunteers back into the our civilized society instead of machine-gunning them to rags at their point of reentry.
Corrupt Western governments possess the most expensive, sprawling, intrusive and bloated police state spying apparatus the world has ever known, but it can't identify these poisonous blood-lust cultists among us and eliminate them.
Yes, most Muslim are good people, but we have bad ones among us. Our governments let them in, and allow them to fester in their fetid slums, allow them to import child brides that they keep chained to the kitchen, ignorant and marinating in a constant stream of extremist propaganda piped over satellite TV and the internet from the Middle East and South Asia.
We are suffering societal sepsis, already weakened from within, we lack the antibodies and the will to expel this poison, lest we offend somebody. Well, I am deeply offended by suicide bombers on Western soil.
I am offended by vapid politicians like Teresa May, Siddiqi Khan and Barack Obama telling us this is the new normal.
Another red hot poker is the rhetorical flourish hearkening to the indomitable British spirit displayed during WWII. This is not WWII. In WWII, we didn't lay down and take it; we fought back!
This is a new martyrdom ushered in by cowering, craven, irresponsible Western governments: Gay men in a Miami nightclub, kids and their parents blown up at a pop music concert, innocent people enjoying America's oldest marathon. Formerly-free people living life, celebrating freedom and enjoying the peaceful, bountiful society built up by their forbears. These are the modern day secular martyrs of the new millennium, offered up by the fat pigs on hind legs who now rule us.
I pisses me off when they trot out the stale platitudes about how "they will not win," and how the terrorists are "cowards" or "losers." No they're not. They are winning, because they have what we lack: Conviction that their cause is right and just, and the balls to do anything to advance their cause and defend their way of life.
DIDADIN!
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I must agree with you about Theresa May, a grey-skinned reptile that spews time-worn banalities.
I noted this morning that she could not bring herself to say, "I pray for the victims and their families." Never mind that she is the daughter of an Anglican priest and has stated that her Christian faith "is part of me. It is part of who I am and therefore how I approach things." Maybe she was afraid that she would offend Muslims if she spoke of prayers for the victims and their families?
I'm pissed off to no end, too -- to the point that I had a hard time teaching class today. At one point, I mixed up Plutarch and Petrarch. Sheesh.
Ha! Reminds me when I read some quotes by Heraclitus and ordered "The Histories," and discovered I had confused him with Herodotus...
DeleteAt least you didn't mix up Plutarch and Disney's Pluto!
I'm going to direct my readers here, AOW...for your post and for SF's excellent comment. thanks.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Z!
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FT,
DeleteAt what point will the West implement DIDADIN? I can't imagine it happening.
We must learn to implment THIS New Rule, or WE will DIE a richly deserved DEATH:
DeleteDO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY WOULD DO UNTO YOU BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO DO IT.
A more palatable way of putting it would be FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE
off topic to AOW: are you watching Mulvaney's presser re the new budget? Unbelievable, articulating things we've only dreamed of from a sensible, bright and conservative expert. Sadly, the left won't understand and mischaracterize its heart away for the next few weeks...wait for it. "We looked at this budget through the eyes of the American taxpayer" "Compassion is getting people off the welfare rosters" (I paraphrase but...)
ReplyDeleteZ,
DeleteCouldn't watch because I was teaching class -- the last class of the 2016-2017 school term. I'll have to catch Mulvaney's presser via video.
As the information comes out, the bomber fits a typical profile:
ReplyDelete1. 2nd generation.
2. Known to police
3. Loner. His family had returned to Libya and he didn't have close friends.
Apparently he traveled to Manchester from London to target this specific concert possibly because he knew there would be an audience of youngsters.
I'm not prepared to point to Islam as the prime motivator here but rather alienation.
So we can either work to resolve that alienation or we can just become isolationist and pretend there is no price to pay for choosing that path.
Alienation is what made him unhappy. Islam is what made him think killing Christians was a "solution" to his problem of "alienation". Perhaps allowing "aliens" into your country so that they can feel "more alienated" is a mistake, ducky?
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DeletePerhaps listening to sidewalk preachers like yourself Farmer and Mr. DIDANIN fosters an environment where the alienation is intensified.
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Duck typed in:
DeleteApparently he traveled to Manchester from London to target this specific concert possibly because he knew there would be an audience of youngsters.
Is that correct? I just got home from work and have been news-deprived since 9:00 AM.
Duck,
DeleteI'm not prepared to point to Islam as the prime motivator here but rather alienation.
Always your position, I know.
And my position? I disagree. At the least, Islam is the trigger.
We have lots of alienated folks running around. They often don't act out. Why do some alienated Muslims have to act out? It's in the Quran!
"2nd generation" of refugees. The threat to the integrity of any nation (our own included) is bringing in, or allowing, as in illegal immigration, large numbers of people not committed to assimilation into the culture of their new nation.
DeleteIf the parents are not committed to a "melting pot" of assimilation into a free society, what are the odds their children will be?
Mike,
DeleteIf the parents are not committed to a "melting pot" of assimilation into a free society, what are the odds their children will be?
The odds do not favor Western civilization.
It is not in the Quran. It's an extreme minority fiqh that would condone that bombing.
DeleteIt hasn't even been established that the coward attended a mosque regularly.
Duck,
DeleteSome reading for you.
This started running through my head. Probably these lines:
"But what a fool believes he sees/No wise man has the power to reason away."
The trouble is, of course, too many lack reason -- and blow children to bits.
Before we start calling each other fools, I will state that fiqh (loosely translated, interpretation) is a critical component.
DeleteMany Westerners think they understand the Quran but fail to place it in any historic or evolutionary perspective.
I doubt the Manchester bomber understood anything beyond his alienation and hatred.
Many Westerners think they understand the Quran but fail to place it in any historic or evolutionary perspective.
DeleteIsn't 1,400 years of Moslem's oppressing religious minorities enough "context"?
Duck,
DeleteI was neither stating nor implying that you are a fool.
My point was that those who cannot reason -- i.e., jihadists -- are fools. Once a jihadist's mind is set, I'm not sure that he can be dissuaded. Why? Because he's convinced that he is guaranteed Paradise by committing murderous jihad. There is enough in the Quran for him to think that -- and add to that ugly reality the Wahhabist imam(s).
FJ,
DeleteIsn't 1,400 years of Moslem's oppressing religious minorities enough "context"?
Should be more than enough "context"!
Nevertheless, Islamophilics will keep telling you that you and I are unaware of context.
Islamophiles fail to recognize their own cognitive bias.
In my experience, the truth typically lies between two extremes.
"Many Westerners think they understand the Quran but fail to place it in any historic or evolutionary perspective."
DeleteYou could say the same of millions of muslims. Even in "enlightened" muslim nations like Indonesia or UAE, people are punished for blasphemy, adultery and homosexuality.
Indeed, you have hit upon the fundamental problem with Islam. All the major scholastic centers "fail to place the koran in any historic or evolutionary perspective," so spare us infidels the lectures, dhimmi.
@Z - "Compassion is getting people off the welfare rosters"
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Not exactly. Compassion is developing jobs with a living wage.
Not an easy problem to solve given the worldwide glut of labor.
Your emphasis however is on removal from welfare without much thought of the economic changes necessary to safely dismantle the social welfare state.
Sadly, the right won't understand.
Safety CREATED the social welfare state as an "insurance policy" against market risk. Higher Market RISK is the only thing that can dismantle it. A BOOM Market makes the social welfare state "unnecessary". The prevention of achieving a boom market is the entire raison d'etre of the Democrat Left.
ReplyDeleteThe right understands that the Left asks "the impossible" with a straight face (denoting a LACK of understanding).
DeleteMarket "safety" is what leads to market strangulation and stagnation.
Delete...as the Left develops ever more complicated risk-aversion based "derivatives" in their impossible search for "market stability".
DeleteThe boom market goes bust.
DeleteWe had some controls over the market cycle but you supply side advocates killed.
Stick to conning the suckers that lowering the taxes on the wealthy will create jobs. They'll believe anything, even when their experience proves otherwise.
We also had a monetary policy before the Left set the mortgage interest rate needle at "zero" and bubbled it out.
DeleteStop pretending to know ANYTHING about economics, ducky. The "we'll raise the minimum wage con" is laughable to anybody who ever had a job.
FJ, does he know anything about anything?
DeleteJust asking.
He's taught me a lot about a lot of things, but economics was never one of them.
Delete"Go back to Worcestershire, ducky!"
DeleteThis was just some of those "shared values" Trump was gargling Saudi cock about.
ReplyDeleteInside every butch conservative is a flamer dying to escape
DeleteTC,
DeletePlease refrain from the use of off-color language, please.
Thank you.
Shared values with the Saudi terrorist enablers = Trump was always harsh on his subcontractors too.
DeleteWow, TC, you need to take a pill or something. Or maybe you already took too many.
DeleteToo late to be picky now. You knew the pizza had shit on it when you ordered it.
DeleteIt's not my fault you voted for a guy that wants the Russians in charge of our national security. Maybe you should have voted your conscience. which candidate was going to repeal Obamacare, build a border wall, penalize China for currency manipulation, put Hillary in prison and make the Saudis pay restitution for 9/11? Whatever happened to that guy? Did his show get cancelled?
DeleteThought Criminal has OD's on MSNBC.
DeleteHow nice of you to be the flak over the target.
DeleteStuff it, Hillary boy
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From Twitter:
ReplyDelete'We had to pull nails out of children's faces': Steve, a homeless man who was sleeping near #Manchester Arena, rushed to help young victims.
Short video at the above link.
From Infidel Bloggers Alliance...
ReplyDelete"GET USED TO IT": BBC Host on Manchester ISIS Attack: Europe Has to Get Used to Islamist Attacks.
Closing portion:
[I]nsist on this twit attend the victims at the next attack. Force her to be part of the clean up crew and also be present when surviving family members are notified.
Look at the first image in that blog post. We're supposed to get used to this?
I commented to that blog post:
In other words: "Surrender."
I will not.
I will never get used to slaughter. To get used to slaughter is to put a terrible, eternal blot on my soul.
DIDADIN!
DeleteIn the meantime, the people of the UK get nothing but bromides from their "betters".
DeleteHypocrisy on display.
ReplyDeleteSee Europe's Leaders: Shielding Themselves from Reality.
Excerpt:
When the G7 heads of state arrive in Taormina, Sicily, for the G7 meeting on May 26, they will find themselves in an embellished, picture-postcard version of European reality. Italy, the host of the G7 meeting, has announced that it will close all harbors on the island to ships that arrive with migrants ( mainly from Libya) for the duration of the two-day meeting. The reason for the closure of the Italian island to migrants is to protect the G7 meeting from potential terrorist attacks. According to Italian reports, "the Department of Public Safety believes that the boats with illegal immigrants could be hiding an Islamist threat".
Can't have self-inflicted reality spoiling the optics.
DeleteBut the question remains, how will the "relief agencies" stay afloat financially cut off from the human traffickers' money?
Duck,
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It hasn't even been established that the coward attended a mosque regularly.
I just stumbled across THIS:
Salman and his brother Ismail worshipped at Didsbury mosque, where their father, who is known as Abu Ismail within the community, is a well-known figure. “He used to do the five and call the adhan. He has an absolutely beautiful voice. And his boys learned the Qur’an by heart."...
The article has more information about the Didsbury mosque. Some of the information appears to be conflicting. Isn't that always the way? **sigh**
Kid, that is my sad conclusion as well.
ReplyDeleteLouder than Bombs
ReplyDeleteFinally, a Brit stands up and calls BS on Theresa May and Grand Mufti Khan of Londonistan.
* - Note: European World Controllers and their herds of baahing sheeple attach the descriptor "Controversial" to anyone who deviates from the hive mentality and voices even the mildest and most polite criticism of the failed multi-culti project.
DeleteSF,
DeleteGreat link!
Morrissey sounds a great deal like Nigel Farage, who recently cited multiculturalism as a failure in the wake of the Manchester slaughter.
I'm not familiar with Morrissey and any "controversies" with which he is associated.
Morrisy was lead singer for The Smiths, and later his own act. He is a liberal, a traditional liberal.
DeleteAOW,
DeleteRead Morrissey's Wiki for a thumbnail sketch of Progressive PC pogroms and straightjackets.
Despite his genuinely-held views on gay rights, animal rights and a decidedly liberal life (he hated Thatcher and is a big Bernie Sanders fan), body of work (anti-establishment, pro-working class, subtle homoerotic overtones) his dangerous heterodoxy on a few of the progressive check boxes has left him vulnerable to flaming pyres and clamors for Auto-da-fé.
They failed, of course, but they succeeded in tinging him with a permanent whiff of racism, and permanently hung the pejorative "Little Englander" around his neck.
Brexit and the election of Donald Trump exposed the progressive left's disgust for the native working class, good-old-fashioned patriotism, and traditional culture, which it turns out, puts an uneasy strain on some of their adherents, who while being people of the left, also agree in sensible immigration and still feel an attachment to their nation and culture and don't want to see it changed.
Today's left is a danger to independent thinking and free society. Non-conformists, dissidents and Freethinkers threaten the dogmatic Progressive left.
* - Morrissy has always been a minor hero of mine. He has damned the nattering naysayers and critics to become one of Britain's most respected and influential musicians. Louder Than Bombs was an album by the Smiths, a post-punk group he fronted in the 80's
I was a bit young for the Smiths, but I stayed up late one night fairly recently investigating their oeuvre on youtube. Pretty good! As a kind of evolutionary missing link between two eras I'm more familiar with (late 70s new wave, early 90s pop-folk) they make perfect sense, and Morrissy's delivery is quite fascinating.
DeleteBut that judge in that court case didn't like him -- "devious, truculent and unreliable" -- and unlike guitarist Johnny Marr he still hasn't paid up his share of his former band mates' royalty claims AFAIK.
His comments here are just lazy cynicism IMO. Less than a year after the shooting of MP Jo Cox, and a mere two months after the houses of parliament were specifically targetted, it's a bit silly to claim that politicians are a walled-off protected class remote from the prospect of terror. Yes, the PM has an armed security detail, but she needs it. As the top of the chain of command, she's a bigger target than me, I accept that. The standard pronouncements of solidarity etc. certainly are banal, but that's a word I would pick to describe eg. a ban on muslim immigration, or a knee-jerk counter strike in the middle east. Banal, naive and dangerous. Counter-productive.
I last saw term "controversial" applied to Morrissy in response to an appearance on television when he described living on the dole as the Smiths got started, he recalled feeling adamant that he was too important to work a factory job.
SF & Jez,
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Celebrating my birthday in Manchester as news of the Manchester Arena bomb broke. The anger is monumental.
For what reason will this ever stop?
Theresa May says such attacks “will not break us”, but her own life is lived in a bullet-proof bubble, and she evidently does not need to identify any young people today in Manchester morgues. Also, “will not break us” means that the tragedy will not break her, or her policies on immigration. The young people of Manchester are already broken – thanks all the same, Theresa. Sadiq Khan says “London is united with Manchester”, but he does not condemn Islamic State – who have claimed responsibility for the bomb. The Queen receives absurd praise for her ‘strong words’ against the attack, yet she does not cancel today’s garden party at Buckingham Palace – for which no criticism is allowed in the Britain of free press. Manchester mayor Andy Burnham says the attack is the work of an “extremist”. An extreme what? An extreme rabbit?
In modern Britain everyone seems petrified to officially say what we all say in private. Politicians tell us they are unafraid, but they are never the victims. How easy to be unafraid when one is protected from the line of fire. The people have no such protections.
Morrissey
23 May 2017.
[source]
The West developed over several centuries by people who became increasingly civilized and humane largely because of the influence of Christian doctrine. Until recently the West sought to refine itself while making an earnest effort to reach a greater understanding of the Truth
ReplyDeletein the hope of attainng Moral Perfection.
In order to continue moving toward that ideal goal, however, and avoid a regression to brute savagery, it is necessary purge the West of primitive, less-advanced peoples raised in a tradition of barbarism, and restrict the practice of pagan religions whose teachings are diametrically opposed to Western Values in general and Christianity in particular.
Our fine immigration system used to do that. We've lost our minds.
DeleteFT,
DeleteAlthough religions other than Christianity have never been illegal in the United States, those practicing those religions were, in many ways, shunned. Society as a whole supported Christianity or its ethos.
Today, those religions you mentioned are lauded and embraced -- in the name of multiculturalism and diversity, I suppose. We are balkanized to the point that there is no longer a definition of American culture and values.
Across the Pond, there is no longer a clear definition of Western culture and values -- and certainly a fluctuating definition of any national culture or values.
Meanwhile, every past flaw of Western culture is emphasized so as to create angst and guilt.
BTW, in the last World Literature class of the 2016-2017 school term, the topic of discussion was the influence of Ancient Greece upon the West -- specifically the contrast between how the Greeks viewed death and how Christianity views death. We noted that the Greeks believed that the acquisition of knowledge was food for the soul whereas Christians emphasized salvation as food for the soul. Some students commented that today we no longer emphasize either the acquisition of knowledge or faith in the Lord as central to mankind's existence.
In my view, the West can absorb and reform a limited number of primitive, less-advanced peoples raised in a tradition of barbarism. Also in my view, the West is trying to absorb too many such peoples. What is critical mass? 10%? 20%?
SF,
DeleteOur fine immigration system used to do that. We've lost our minds.
That goes without saying!
Life under the direction of Leftists has become nothing mpre than a ghastly farce.
ReplyDeleteIn other words the two of you actually support DIDADIN. Plerase don't try to deny it, yclearly you DO.
ReplyDeleteSo, why don't you come right out and SAY so?
FT,
ReplyDeleteThe right brain side does. The left brain side remembers the Constitutional barriers.
This is not to say that Rico couldn't be employed.