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  1. Local news:

    Fairfax Co. schools debating proposal to protect transgender students, teachers from discrimination [for pre-K through 12th grade]


    There is a debate among administrators and parents at Fairfax County Public Schools on whether transgender students and teachers should be protected from discrimination and if they should be allowed to share restrooms with everyone else.

    The school board is proposing a policy that would protect gender identity. In other words, transgender individuals from discrimination

    “Parents will be prohibited from transferring their child out of the classroom of a transgender teacher,” said Andrea Lafferty, president of the Traditional Values Coalition....

    More at the above link -- including video.

    1. Yeah, I'm all for protecting gender identity. You're born with male equipment, we'll call you a BOY. You're born with female equipment, we'll call you a GIRL. DONE! Easy smeazy.

  2. How can anyone who is not a Progressive Idiot think of voting for that ugly old hag Hillary is off their rocker.

    1. I agree with your sentiment - any thinking person that would vote for HRC is off their rocker. I'd rather talk about her ugly old ideas, though. Her disproven, discredited schemes, rhetoric and - ahem - record. I really don't care what a solid constitutionalist executive of high character and ability looks like.

  3. When can WE get protection from "transgenders"?
    We used to call them cross dressers and perverts.

  4. Before we go to Obama's record, let's consider the things that contributed to our current economic crisis, without the liberal's typical excuse of blaming everything on George W. Bush like Dave Miller seems to love to do. . First of all, a lot of our financial troubles go all the way back to 911 and the damage done to our economy from the terrorists' attack on the World Trade Center. Between 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina our economy suffered devastating effects from these two incidents alone, and was barely teetering on the edge. Except for a few conspiracy folks like the 9/11 truthers, most wouldn't even try to blame George Bush for these events.

    But now it’s time to move on, and the thing that worries me the most is the question of While we endure the daily lies of President Obama, are we going to have to listen to more lies and false headlines? Do we really want to have another four to eight years more of Hillary Clinton’s daily lies like we have had with President Obama, do we really want to have another four to eight years to see our country doing down the toilet with Hillary Clinton at the helm? This is a very dangerous individual, all we can hope for is the GOP to find their *balls* and run someone that can FIGHT her, not acquiesce to her in a gentlemanly fashion.

    Many of us real Americans hoped that the GOP would take that majority and use it to rein in the sheer stupidity that was flowing from Washington, D.C. and Barack Obama.
    Many saw an opportunity to turn this nation around, restore the good name of America, rebuild our military, restore our credit rating as a nation and to put this nation back on a course to become the greatest Super Power the world had ever seen.

    But I guess that it was not meant to be; we didn’t factor in the RINO vote. And so we got what we deserved, I guess that the usual suspects sold us out once more..

    In the end several Republicans to the surprise of many of their own colleagues — voted aye for Loretta Lynch, including Mr. McConnell.
    So in essence, it’s time for “We The People” to ignore Obama’s so called laws. Thanks to the asshole RINOS, we now have a female Eric Holder running the Justice Dept.

    I’m sure most have heard the expression *pulling defeat from the jaws of victory*, well, it’s supposed to read the other way, but it appears to me that the GOP, at least this current batch, is exactly what I have called them for a long time; the weakest, most spineless bunch of miscreants that the voters could find.

    I know that Ted Cruz missed the vote, that is a well-known fact.
    I don’t know if Cruz missed it because he had more pressing matters and assumed the GOP was going to carry the day or if perhaps he already knew that there weren’t enough voted to stop another socialist douchbag like Loretta Lynch from being seated.

    1. "Pulling defeat from the jaws of victory."
      I've been writing to Republican central committees about why I don't send THEM money anymore since Trent Lott was in the Senate, and find myself using that very phase for stunts like this.

  5. I find this rash of 'transgendered' children disturbing. Are there really that many genuine cases? Is it literally something in the water (or food)?

    Could this really be people putting innocent children on the vanguard of some twisted agenda?

    I understand and agree with the push against hatred and bigotry, but much of what is going on today is way past that. An anything-goes society with no guardrails, no shared morals and no sense of right and wrong is no society at all, and it will eventually come apart.

    1. There was no transgender when I was in school, and no suicide for having had to keep quiet.

      My sister tells me of a middle school where the walls are graffiti'd by teachers with "LGBT?" all over........middle school kids. Who knew what LESBIAN or TRANSGENDER or BI was in elementary school when we were kids? SO, I realized that not only is this choice given to them, but they have also been taught what it means.

      Children who were different might have been hurt; I was particularly tall for a girl and didn't develop young so I was hurt. A few of the boys were quite heavy and they were hurt. One kid had a really big nose; I suppose he was hurt, too. and teased. No suicides.

      There were gay people then; they kept their sexuality to themselves....like we all do now...married or not. Do you talk to others about your sex life with your wife?
      I once told a young girlfriend that she couldn't be truly in love with the guy if she'd tell me such intimate 'goings on' in the bedroom.....she was angry; then called weeks later and said I was right.

      There's nothing wrong with age appropriate learning of things like LGBT...but I think championing these things as we are by, for example, dwelling on Bruce Jenner's situation ...(it's EVERYWHERE) is not healthy and very sad. I wish him the best; I hope he does whatever he has to do IN PRIVATE, but then where's the financial benefit?

    2. Re: children who were hurt. Dennis Prager talks about being the big/tall kid who made it his mission to take out bullies (they kept a chair in the principal's office just for him). But real men all over did this. Mr. B was a star athlete and class president. He had an eye out for the picked on ones and got likeminded guys on the team to join him in giving bullies a good talking to.

    3. I can understand gender confusion issues during puberty, but 5 years old? Children have no concept of sexuality at that age. All they know is boys are boys and girls are girls, and all by superficial observation of externals.

      Also, it is probably not outside the normal range for young children to act like the other gender or want to dress like that, but it doesn't follow that that means you need to gender reassign them.

      And I take no solace from 'experts' with psychology degrees who say this is all OK. Many people go into psychology because they are screwed up, and I've seen cases of such twisted freaks with PhD projecting their pathologies on their patients.

      Would you really want someone making a permanent, life-changing decision for you based upon what you wanted when you were five years old? Or even as a teenager?

      This generation of parents and grandparents are batty. They're sick, and they are infecting their children and grandchildren with their mental illnesses.

  6. I miss the old days when I was in school. PEOPLE wake up, there was no such thing as a transgender student then.

    1. There were, but nobody talked about it, except the kids. The kids always knew when another kid was different, and they were never very kind or understanding about it. There was a lot of suffering in silence, wasted lives, and probably many suicides as misfits grew to realize there was no place they could be accepted, unless they could live a lie successfully.

      Jennifer Bruce

    2. There may have been some confused kids that later got through that period in their life and "straightened" out, but now those kids are encouraged to act in a manner not beneficial to them in the long run.

    3. That's right, Ed...it's almost championed.... I think we are ALL confused when we start learning about sex...only WE probably learned about it a LOT LOT later than kids do today; that's supposed to be 'open minded' and 'so cool' for the kids. I think it's a really hard road for them; they're not ready and they have this stuff thrown at them. Very confusing; not time to 'come out' of anything....

    4. I agree with Jennifer as well, but Ed too has a point.

      First, yes, there have always been gender dysphoric children and adults. Some can work through it and live a heterosexual life, others cannot and either embrace their homosexuality (I know, they are technically two separate things) or they end up unable to bear life's burdens. They deserve our love and understanding, not ridicule.

      What I see happening is what Ed and millions of others see: An active campaign to pull kids over the fence, and I use that metaphor on purpose. Puberty is a raging sea of hormones and emotions, difficult to navigate even in the best of circumstances. Early sexual experiences can cause psychological imprinting, but studies indicate that such imprinting is not deterministic in all but the most extreme cases (rape, incest, etc).

      An adolescent who has had a homosexual encounter may not be gay, but pop culture says the opposite. This is what people mean when they talk about recruitment. There is a dedicated core of weirdos who detest any and all gender-normative training and imprinting on children. No doubt, some of this stems from adults who had bad childhoods, or from men who suffered under well-intentioned coaches, scoutmasters and older male family members who tried to 'make a man out of them,' by making them engage in sports, hunting or other manly pursuits against the child's will.

      I dunno. I think our society is sick, and I'm not just talking about homosexual agendas. Indeed, gay people can be well-adjusted, and heteros have done more damage to marriage than gays have.

      We have sick adults in our society, and they are projecting their fears, aversions, bitterness and bugaboos on our children, and the trend will continue until it no longer can.

  7. When I attended a university graduation two years ago or so, I was introduced to a new term: LBGTQ. The acronym was repeated over and over again by the student speaker, who went on and on about how the university was so open-minded, etc., etc. The speaker was not the valedictorian but rather the student who won the contest for student speaker at the graduation ceremony.

    I came up and looked up this acronym. This is what I found: Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, Transgender, and Questioning.

    I also looked up something else that the student mentioned: "The LGBTQ Club." At that time, it had five members. Yet, the speech the student made when on and on about the club.

    Equally as disturbing were the Dean's remarks, which followed the student's speech. At least twice, he said, "Go out there, and have a helluva good time." Those words sum up the essence of the dean's speech. Sheesh.

    1. We are in an age of perpetual adolescence. There are no adults. I blame the Baby Boomer generation

      (but not all baby boomers!!! Please don't dogpile me!)

      My mom and dad are boomers, and they were not dope smoking hippies, and they didn't grow up to be perpetual teenagers who were permissive parents who tried to stay hip. No, like most baby boomers, they emulated their serious parents and became responsible adults who did their damndest to raise good kids and teach them morals and virtues.

      But the hippies and the red diaper doper baby (Michael Savage's coinage) minority of that era took over the levers of power (government, academia, press, pop culture) and screwed up subsequent generations.

      There is always hope. Gen X'ers (my generation) are more conservative than their parents, and from what I read, the trend continues. Even as younger folks vote democrat, the majority (that you don't see in spring break videos or reality tv shows) live fairly conservative lives.

  8. Will schools now actively promote mental illness?

    Here's why I've asked the question:

    Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’"
    August 20, 2014:

    Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.


    He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”

    While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.”


    The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”

    “And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a ‘satisfied’ but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs,” said Dr. McHugh.


    “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”

    1. Indeed. See my comments above. Adolescence is a tumultuous time, physically and psychologically. Adults (especially degreed 'experts') who urge permanent solutions on children are criminals, imo.

      I fear we'll be seeing a lot of sad psychological fallout over the next 20 years, and I say that with a deep sadness and a prayer on my lips for the young victims of these adult criminal monsters.

    2. Yep. XX is XX and XY is XY.
      Aint gonna change.

    3. and, as I related above, middle schools now have "LGBT?" written on walls by teachers. Yes, they are pushing it in the name of liberal kindness, in the name of liberal understanding...both of which they're NOT. Botching things up as they so often do. What a mess our kids are growing up in.

    4. I'm surprised that you all feel we have a complete understanding of human sexuality,

      Male is male, female is female. Male bonds with female and it's all genetically determined.

      Well except when it isn't. Do we completely understand the physical, emotional and environmental factors that creat our sexual persona?
      I say no but you may feel more comfortable with a simple theory.

      My youngest niece went to high school with a transgenedered individual. The kids were very accepting and he is attending art school in Germany and doing quite well thanks to growing up with kids are are not nearly as screwed up as the adults.

    5. And maybe the good doctor, former head psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins doesn't know quite as much as you, but it's nice to hear there's a kid who is doing well whatever gender he's selected for himself. Nobody wishes any harm to any LGBT individual.
      Oh, and I wish our kids weren't subjected to input that screws them up at ages where most of us didn't even know the subject.

    6. Duck,
      I'm surprised that you all feel we have a complete understanding of human sexuality

      Ahem. That could also apply to harm done by the push to normalize transgenderism.

      The article to which I linked above has its main point the drawbacks of gender-reassignment surgery.

      Dr. McHugh also points out the following:

      The transgendered person’s disorder, said Dr. McHugh, is in the person’s “assumption” that they are different than the physical reality of their body, their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.

      This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” said Dr. McHugh.

      "Subjective personal truth" is dangerously close to schizophrenia, IMO.

    7. Ed,
      XX is XX and XY is XY.

      Good point.

      That reality cannot be completely ignored -- no matter what.

    8. Z,
      I wish our kids weren't subjected to input that screws them up at ages where most of us didn't even know the subject.

      Totally with you on that point!

      Are children having their childhood ripped away from them? I think so -- in many ways besides the matter of sexuality.

    9. First z, this topic is subject to debate. The fct that you have opinions supporting your view does not decide the matter.
      I'll say it again, we do not have a complete understanding of human sexuality.

      I'll also point out again that adults are a lot more screwed up on this than the kids. This is similar to the problems homosexual youth had when they had to deal with opinions formed by adult bigotry.
      The kids will work it out.

      I will also point out that a lot of conservative religion today, especially the Abrahamic religions, is mired in a vain attempt to control human sexuality

    10. "The kids will work it all out."
      Because they have such wisdom and knowledge and experience in how to do so without adult guidance.

    11. Nostradumbass interjects, " I'm surprised that you all feel we have a complete understanding of human sexuality,

      Finally coming out of the closet Ducky?

      Oh great champion of the oppressed (as long as they aren't certain brown colored people), please enlighten us. I just hope you make a better looking lady than Bruce Jenner so that when I point out you make a butt ugly whatever you make, that you don't flame me as a sexist.

      Actually I don't a crap.

      To paraphrase EB; XX is XX and XY is XY. There is an occasional XYY which in all respects seems to be a normal male and an occasional XXY or multiples of Xs and a Y which can be a mixed bag of physical sexual characteristics. Genetically they are considered male as they do have a Y chromosome. Some are born with only female external organs or male organs or a mixture of both and trend to be non-functional or sterile.

      In any case, we e not talking about true hermaphrodites and it's pointless to change the whole of our society to preserve the "feelings" (and that's all they are) of a few nuts cases that wish they were male or female when they are not.

      What they are doing is seeking validation from the whole of society for a mental aberration. OK, here's my validation; yep there's no doubt, you're nutty as a jar of "Planters Deluxe" with a hand full of peanuts thrown in.

    12. You might want to reconsider Ed. If you look at racial relations among kids I think you'll find it is a lot better.
      Kids are much more accepting of gays.

      It takes a little time but the change happens.
      Unfortunatley you seem to think that anything not reflective of an imaginary "Leave It to Beaver" world is symptomatic of the seventh seal about to be opened.


    13. Hey Warren, last I heard from you, you were trying to decide whether to invest in gold or guns.
      How'd it work out for you?

    14. Does that mean you didn't come out of the closet?

      Nostradumbass said:
      "Hey Warren, last I heard from you, you were trying to decide whether to invest in gold or guns.

      Last you heard, the Soviet Union was saving the world through Lysenkoism.

      Save your jokes except the ones about human excrement. You seem to understand them better.

    15. Did somebody HERE say anybody has complete understanding of human sexuality?

      And, Ducky, you sure can dish it out, but you know I'm quite sure I've never seen you respond to questions to YOU. And you keep shucking and jiving from the points made, mischaracterizing...etc.
      Hard to have a decent discussion.

    16. Z, my dear friend. Of course Nostradumbass can't take it. He's ideologue with no room for facts truth or rationality. For historic perspective he uses Zinn, he believes truth is relative and doesn't have a clue what rational or logical means. Even so he uses those terms when he feels it will give his nonsense weight.

      Ducky, for you, QUACK.

    17. Duck,
      If you look at racial relations among kids I think you'll find it is a lot better.

      I think that is true.

      Kids are much more accepting of gays.

      To a point. They are not so accepting of flamers -- or gays in general if the kids have been sexually assaulted, recruited, etc. Yes, sexual assault and recruitment to the gay lifestyle occurs.

      How accepting will kids be if genital display on the part of the opposite sex becomes the norm in restrooms?

      And what about the gang showers?

    18. Kids worked it out so well iin Lord of the Flies. Granted it's fiction,.

  9. Frankly, I expect that transgender bathrooms will start popping up all over the United States -- especially in government-funded buildings (courthouses, schools, public libraries, etc.).

    One version of a transgender bathroom sign

    Index of transgender bathroom signs

    1. I've never grafitti'd anything. But this makes you want to take out your magic marker and add 'Gender Confusion'.

    2. The only gender neutral bathroom is one with all stalls. That lock.

  10. Meanwhile, State Says Bakers Should Pay $135,000 for Refusing to Bake Cake for Same-Sex Wedding:

    Aaron and Melissa Klein, owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa located in Gresham, Ore., say the fine is enough to potentially bankrupt their family of seven.

    1. About the GoFundMe page:

      Less than a day after a donation fund was set up for the Oregon bakers who the state recommended be fined $135,000 for refusing to make a cake for a same-sex wedding, the crowdfunding website, GoFundMe, has shut it down.

      “The campaign entitled ‘Sweet Cakes by Melissa’ involves formal charges. As such, our team has determined that it was in violation of GoFundMe’s Terms and Conditions,” a spokesman for GoFundMe told The Daily Signal in a statement.

    2. Grrrrr. GoFundMe's policy states they won't allow donations for a case of someone accused of a HEINOUS CRIME. Wow! We know what's going on here. Fortunately, you can donate to help them at Samaritan's Purse: http://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/christian-couple-faces-135000-fine/

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    1. And in Michigan, you can't carry into a sports venue.
      My gun would be out in my car.

    2. Well in the current climate, AOW if the cops take a kid into custody without any probably cause and nearly snap his spine in half there is going to be trouble.

      The days of holding the police blameless are over.

    3. Who has ever held police blameless over deaths while in custody?

    4. Duck,
      Freddie Gray wasn't exactly a kid.

      As for probable cause, the police apparently locked eyes with him, then he took off running. When they nabbed him, he was carrying a switchblade, so he was arrested and put into the paddy wagon.

      How his spine was snapped and how his voice box was crushed are under investigation.

      I don't know the details about that particular area of Baltimore, nor do I know if some kind of sting operation going on. Furthermore, it is my understanding that Gray asked for medical attention at the moment that he was collared on the street.

      When you say in the current climate, exactly what do you mean? That the police should back off and let certain people do anything they want?

    5. Z,
      Who has ever held police blameless over deaths while in custody?

      Nobody whom I know.

      Baltimore may have a problem with obtaining good candidates for the position of police officer. Prince County George's County does -- to the point that the bar is very low and the training is insufficient.

    6. Hold.



      I just read this about Freddie Gray:

      As children, he and his sisters were found to have lead poisoning in their blood levels. According to a 2008 lawsuit against a Sandtown-Winchester housing complex where Gray and his sisters lived, the lead poisoning caused medical, behavioral, and educational problems for the children. Terms of the settlement were not publicly revealed.

      Now see this about lead poisoning:

      Lead affects every one of the body's organ systems, especially the nervous system, but also the bones and teeth...

      More information about lead poisoning HERE (different link).

      I have to wonder if Mr. Gray had a problem with bone density. Perhaps the officers handled him in the traditional way, but Mr. Gray's physical problems resulted in something never intended by the police.

      The above said, over the years I've known several white men who were arrested and handled roughly. Too roughly. These men were not resisting arrest in any way and were not being arrested for any capital crime -- no criminal record, either.

  12. Let us begin with the understanding that the Center for Disease Control and Prevention has come to the conclusion that there is no connection between the climate and health. And nothing to do with whether you are sneezing today or out on the beach getting a sun-tan.
    It seems the Pacific Ocean is getting colder. The liberal pin-heads asks why? But the Pinhead say the wind is blowing too hard, and blowing the cold air, it seems, down into the Pacific, deep down...which of course is forcing the cool air up to the surface and cooling off the air all over the globe....but its still global warming, according to these yahoos.

    And then the damn Pinheads try to sell us that the climate changes over extended periods of time and does effect our health, and they wonder why we don’t and won't believe a word they say.

    Justifiable? It’s bad enough when they lie to each other, but what do you call someone who has to lie to themselves? Like when they tell us that Global Warming gave Malia Obama asthma! Yes, our Dear leader, Barack Hussain Obama blames Global Warming for his daughter's asthma and showed us all his incompetence and lack of education once again...
    And He Also, Magically Forgot about Main Cause of Children Asthma - Smoking Parents It’s pathetic that the president of the United States uses his own child’s illness to push his fallacious political rhetoric. I guess that it’s true, once a liar always a liar.

    Here’s what the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America has to say about the various causes of asthma.

    “Since asthma has a genetic origin and is a disease you are born with, passed down from generation to generation, the question isn’t really ‘what causes asthma’, but rather ‘what causes asthma symptoms to appear?’ People with asthma have inflamed airways which are super-sensitive to things which do not bother other people.”

    What the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America is telling us is that there is no direct connection between either the climate or the weather and the illness called asthma.

    Those who suffer this disease however can be affected by a range of triggers such as irritants in the air, pollens, molds, and even cockroach droppings. Infections such as colds, flu, and sore throats are among the leading triggers for asthma attacks in children.

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    1. Wow!
      The lesbian couple should be ashamed for mentally raping someone who wouldn't bake them a "wedding" cake.

      Is mentally doing anything a crime? I think I might have committed mental bossicide Friday. I admit I took particular pleasure during the part where I was strangling him and he said, "Please stop, you're not holding your hands right."

      The thought police have finally arrived to take me away.

    2. Yea, they cited me for politically impure thoughts about .... I can't say or I'll be cited for contempt and being insufficiently Progressive.

    3. Warren,
      Haven't all of us committed mental bossicide?

      On a serious note, as one whose best friend was beaten and raped, I find it appalling that any woman is squawking about "mental rape." The court case brought by the two lesbians who said that they were mentally raped should have been dismissed in whole on grounds of absurdity on that claim alone -- and they should have been fined $100,000 for bringing a frivolous law suit to court and wasting the court's and the defendants' time and money as well.

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    1. Joe,
      The new Face of Justice in Barack Obama's "America".

      That's indeed the way that it is.

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    1. So then I guess that leaves Shaw out!


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