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Wednesday, June 13, 2012

U.S. Caliphate Conference 2012

The conference will be held in the Chicago area of Rolling Meadows on June 17:


More details, including the sessions scheduled and the official poster HERE, at Atlas Shrugs. Note the terminology being used: "change," "revolution," and "Democracy..?"

Information about Hizb ut-Tahrir HERE, at Discover the Networks. Brief excerpt:
...Former Hizb-ut-Tahrir member Ed Husain, who left the organization and denounced it in his 2007 book The Islamist, says: "The only difference between Islamists from Hizb ut-Tahrir and jihadists, is that the former are waiting for their state and caliph before they commence jihad, while the latter believes the time for jihad is now."...
Additional information HERE, at Stop Radical Islam.

UPDATE from 1389 Blog: Rolling Meadows now apparently refuses to hold the conference in their facility.

The U.S. Caliphate Conference 2012 is seeking another venue.

Excerpt from "Unified Islam: Unlikely But Not Entirely Radical," which appeared in the Washington Post in 2006:
...[T]he caliphate is also esteemed by many ordinary Muslims [in addition to "radical Muslims," who frequently cite the caliphate as their ultimate goal]. For most, its revival is not an urgent concern. Public opinion polls show immediate issues such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and discrimination rank as more pressing. But Muslims regard themselves as members of the umma , or community of believers, that forms the heart of Islam. And as earthly head of that community, the caliph is cherished both as memory and ideal, interviews indicate....
Is it any wonder, then, that so few "moderate Muslims" are coming forth to protest Al Qaeda and the like?

12 comments:

  1. Hi AOW.

    Look at their poster from last year and see who has been 'removed' from the poster, coincidence?I don't think so.

    http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1107/the-dutch-section-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-endorces-caliph-presiden-politics-1309706118.jpg


    more here:

    http://counterjihadreport.com/2012/05/30/us-caliphate-conference-america-2012-revolution-liberation-by-revelation/

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  2. From this recent article in World Net Daily:

    A senior fellow for a Madrid-based think tank is alerting freedom-loving people about a caliphate-planning conference being held by Muslims soon, a move he said was given a boost of support by the Obama administration recently when it allowed a three-day “Istanbul Process” conference in Washington.

    That event, writes Soeren Kern, Senior Fellow for European Politics at Madrid’s Grupo de Estudio, “gave the [Organization of Islamic Cooperation] the political legitimacy it has been seeking to globalize its initiative to ban criticism of Islam.”

    [...]

    The 57-member OIC has been proposing a special international law that would make it criminal to speak ill of Muhammad or his followers for years, but it never was successful under its earlier plans that were portrayed as a ban on the “defamation of religions.” Actually, support for the idea had started waning.

    But then it proposed Resolution 16/18, a plan for countries to “combat” things like “intolerance, negative stereotyping and stigmatization of … religion and belief.” The idea was adopted in the U.N. General Assembly just a few weeks ago and Kern’s analysis notes that it would be largely ineffectual as long as the West doesn’t jump behind it.

    That is why it was a “diplomatic coup,” according to Kern, when Obama held the three-day conference in Washington, where Secretary of State Hillary Clinton committed to the key principal Muslims have been seeking for years: holding people responsible when “free speech” … “results in sectarian clashes.”...


    One way to be assured that caliphate dreams are not realized is for the West not to compromise on the principles of free speech.

    Christianity is often sliced and diced via criticism and scrutiny. Why should Islam be exempt from that same criticism and scrutiny?

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  3. Why in the hell are we hosting liberty-hating forums like this in our country?

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  4. Hi AOW.
    Just came across an update on your story,
    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120613/news/706139959/

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  5. Will,
    Thanks so much for that update, which is dated today!

    They are still looking for a venue.

    I noted from that article the following:

    ...Organizers were expecting roughly 1,000 attendees...

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  6. Place is going to be crawling with FBI but it should be interesting.
    The agenda looked good.

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  7. Gee, I don't know, Silver. Maybe it has something to do with the Constitution and freedom of assembly.

    I know, I know, the Constitution only protects freedoms for the good people like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.

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  8. "Christianity is often sliced and diced via criticism and scrutiny. Why should Islam be exempt from that same criticism and scrutiny?"

    It shouldn't be and it won't be! Hillary Clinton can go to...

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  9. I have a pretty good grasp of the constitution, Ducky.

    My question is, why do we let people in whose ultimate goal is the destruction of our democratic republic and supplanting it with a caliphate, regardless of how far fetched their stupid beliefs are.

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  10. Yeah, sure you do Silver. You have a good grasp of hate mongering. That's about all.

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  11. "The only difference between Islamists from Hizb ut-Tahrir and jihadists, is that the former are waiting for their state and caliph before they commence jihad, while the latter believes the time for jihad is now."

    Exactly and you wonder why more in the west are not getting it.

    "My question is, why do we let people in whose ultimate goal is the destruction of our democratic republic and supplanting it with a caliphate, regardless of how far fetched their stupid beliefs are."

    Good question Silver, far too many idiots in the west is why, like the one below your comment.

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  12. I do hope that people are aware that in fact the majority of Muslims that discuss the concept of a caliphate are actually living outside the Muslim world.

    Any Muslim who mentions the creation of a caliphate in an actual Muslim country is basically scorned or shunned by the population and treated with suspicion or worse by governments.

    It would be foolish, or simply of questionable motives, to assume that there is some seriousness outside fringe groups on this subject.

    The best way is to take the simple reality check which frankly speaking never happens on this blog. So the first check is by asking how many Muslim countries are there supporting, promoting or willing to be part of a caliphate? The answer is none. What about those supposive ultra-hard-line women-stoning, hand-choping states? Nope.

    The next question would be, who then would be the caliphe? Would the hard-line Wahabis of Saudi accept a non Wahabi or Salafi? Would the Shia accept a Sunni?

    Then comes the theological question, would any of the five schools of Jurispudence accept it and what would they say? Well three of the schools carefully say that a global Muslim society under Sharia is the pefect goal (ie Utopian), they equally and just as carefully point out that the term Caliphe implies that they must be linked to the family of Mohammed. Now technically speaking that would make either the King of Jordan or the King of Morocco the only candidates as the Hashamite and Alaouite dynasties are directly linked - now really, tell me that the other 54 Muslim countries would accept that.

    A last reality check is asking yourselves who actually is asking for it? It comes down to radical fringe groups either abusing their immigrant status in western cities or living in a hole dodging predator drone strikes in some miserable backwater. You can bet your bottom dollar that they also believe their own group should manage this so-called caliphate.

    Damien Charles

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