tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post676147881353008763..comments2023-10-03T07:01:41.144-05:00Comments on Always On Watch: Semper Vigilans: U.S. Caliphate Conference 2012Always On Watchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-6991749757786776122012-06-18T21:07:17.690-05:002012-06-18T21:07:17.690-05:00I do hope that people are aware that in fact the m...I do hope that people are aware that in fact the majority of Muslims that discuss the concept of a caliphate are actually living outside the Muslim world.<br /><br />Any Muslim who mentions the creation of a caliphate in an actual Muslim country is basically scorned or shunned by the population and treated with suspicion or worse by governments.<br /><br />It would be foolish, or simply of questionable motives, to assume that there is some seriousness outside fringe groups on this subject. <br /><br />The best way is to take the simple reality check which frankly speaking never happens on this blog. So the first check is by asking how many Muslim countries are there supporting, promoting or willing to be part of a caliphate? The answer is none. What about those supposive ultra-hard-line women-stoning, hand-choping states? Nope.<br /><br />The next question would be, who then would be the caliphe? Would the hard-line Wahabis of Saudi accept a non Wahabi or Salafi? Would the Shia accept a Sunni? <br /><br />Then comes the theological question, would any of the five schools of Jurispudence accept it and what would they say? Well three of the schools carefully say that a global Muslim society under Sharia is the pefect goal (ie Utopian), they equally and just as carefully point out that the term Caliphe implies that they must be linked to the family of Mohammed. Now technically speaking that would make either the King of Jordan or the King of Morocco the only candidates as the Hashamite and Alaouite dynasties are directly linked - now really, tell me that the other 54 Muslim countries would accept that.<br /><br />A last reality check is asking yourselves who actually is asking for it? It comes down to radical fringe groups either abusing their immigrant status in western cities or living in a hole dodging predator drone strikes in some miserable backwater. You can bet your bottom dollar that they also believe their own group should manage this so-called caliphate.<br /><br />Damien CharlesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-57849793321309167582012-06-15T20:50:08.633-05:002012-06-15T20:50:08.633-05:00"The only difference between Islamists from H..."The only difference between Islamists from Hizb ut-Tahrir and jihadists, is that the former are waiting for their state and caliph before they commence jihad, while the latter believes the time for jihad is now."<br /><br />Exactly and you wonder why more in the west are not getting it.<br /><br />"My question is, why do we let people in whose ultimate goal is the destruction of our democratic republic and supplanting it with a caliphate, regardless of how far fetched their stupid beliefs are."<br /><br />Good question Silver, far too many idiots in the west is why, like the one below your comment.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-25121369082069479852012-06-13T17:57:29.376-05:002012-06-13T17:57:29.376-05:00Yeah, sure you do Silver. You have a good grasp of...Yeah, sure you do Silver. You have a good grasp of hate mongering. That's about all.Liberalmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04612454539046863752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-69787996655550730872012-06-13T13:53:31.558-05:002012-06-13T13:53:31.558-05:00I have a pretty good grasp of the constitution, Du...I have a pretty good grasp of the constitution, Ducky.<br /><br />My question is, why do we let people in whose ultimate goal is the destruction of our democratic republic and supplanting it with a caliphate, regardless of how far fetched their stupid beliefs are.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-20640335456271210312012-06-13T11:48:13.066-05:002012-06-13T11:48:13.066-05:00"Christianity is often sliced and diced via c..."Christianity is often sliced and diced via criticism and scrutiny. Why should Islam be exempt from that same criticism and scrutiny?"<br /><br />It shouldn't be and it won't be! Hillary Clinton can go to...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-28926749956702981912012-06-13T11:47:31.886-05:002012-06-13T11:47:31.886-05:00Gee, I don't know, Silver. Maybe it has someth...Gee, I don't know, Silver. Maybe it has something to do with the Constitution and freedom of assembly.<br /><br />I know, I know, the Constitution only protects freedoms for the good people like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-79675633043604569842012-06-13T11:45:43.906-05:002012-06-13T11:45:43.906-05:00Place is going to be crawling with FBI but it shou...Place is going to be crawling with FBI but it should be interesting.<br />The agenda looked good.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-40959913325606645752012-06-13T08:59:37.047-05:002012-06-13T08:59:37.047-05:00Will,
Thanks so much for that update, which is dat...Will,<br />Thanks so much for that update, which is dated today!<br /><br />They are still looking for a venue.<br /><br />I noted from that article the following:<br /><br /><i><b>...Organizers were expecting roughly 1,000 attendees...</b></i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-6643502489081816902012-06-13T08:47:26.071-05:002012-06-13T08:47:26.071-05:00Hi AOW.
Just came across an update on your story,
...Hi AOW.<br />Just came across an update on your story,<br />http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120613/news/706139959/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02987737871351359966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-35734686356554379582012-06-13T08:22:56.151-05:002012-06-13T08:22:56.151-05:00Why in the hell are we hosting liberty-hating foru...Why in the hell are we hosting liberty-hating forums like this in our country?Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-40026222819614775482012-06-13T04:25:29.290-05:002012-06-13T04:25:29.290-05:00From this recent article in World Net Daily:
A se...From <a href="http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/planning-for-islamic-caliphate-to-begin/" rel="nofollow">this recent article</a> in <i>World Net Daily</i>:<br /><br /><i>A senior fellow for a Madrid-based think tank is alerting freedom-loving people about a caliphate-planning conference being held by Muslims soon, a move he said was given a boost of support by the Obama administration recently when it allowed a three-day “Istanbul Process” conference in Washington.<br /><br />That event, writes Soeren Kern, Senior Fellow for European Politics at Madrid’s Grupo de Estudio, “gave the [Organization of Islamic Cooperation] the political legitimacy it has been seeking to globalize its initiative to ban criticism of Islam.”<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />The 57-member OIC has been proposing a special international law that would make it criminal to speak ill of Muhammad or his followers for years, but it never was successful under its earlier plans that were portrayed as a ban on the “defamation of religions.” Actually, support for the idea had started waning.<br /><br />But then it proposed Resolution 16/18, a plan for countries to “combat” things like “intolerance, negative stereotyping and stigmatization of … religion and belief.” The idea was adopted in the U.N. General Assembly just a few weeks ago and Kern’s analysis notes that it would be largely ineffectual as long as the West doesn’t jump behind it.<br /><br />That is why it was a “diplomatic coup,” according to Kern, when Obama held the three-day conference in Washington, where Secretary of State Hillary Clinton committed to the key principal Muslims have been seeking for years: holding people responsible when “free speech” … “results in sectarian clashes.”...</i><br /><br />One way to be assured that caliphate dreams are not realized is for the West not to compromise on the principles of free speech.<br /><br />Christianity is often sliced and diced via criticism and scrutiny. Why should Islam be exempt from that same criticism and scrutiny?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-43972968979533806212012-06-13T04:24:20.734-05:002012-06-13T04:24:20.734-05:00Hi AOW.
Look at their poster from last year and s...Hi AOW.<br /><br />Look at their poster from last year and see who has been 'removed' from the poster, coincidence?I don't think so.<br /><br />http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1107/the-dutch-section-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-endorces-caliph-presiden-politics-1309706118.jpg<br /><br /><br />more here:<br /><br />http://counterjihadreport.com/2012/05/30/us-caliphate-conference-america-2012-revolution-liberation-by-revelation/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02987737871351359966noreply@blogger.com