Several years ago, an acquaintance served as an Embassy attaché in one of the Central American cesspools. During this period, local government arrested and detained a known (thoroughly nasty) narcoterrorist. It was difficult to distinguish between the objections voiced by the UN Humanitarian Mission, and demonstrations engineered by communist insurgencies. Both conspired to intimidate thousands of peasants to participate in demonstrations, demanding release of the narcoterrorist. As was typical of the communists, dozens of bombs exploded throughout the capital city, and innocent persons were targeted for assassination. As the communists threatened utter chaos unless the government released the criminal, the constabulary cowered behind the thick doors of a very old citadel.The government did have sufficient evidence of the narcoterrorist’s misdeeds, but it was mostly circumstantial. No one was foolish enough to offer first hand testimony at a public trial. In spite of the US Embassy’s strenuous arguments to retain the person behind bars, the host nation relented and released the murdering thug. The communists celebrated a major victory over the “Imperialistas norteamericanos,” evan though the US government's involvement in this novella was negligible. It wasn't long before the communists became even more brazen in their attacks upon the local populace, government agencies, police officials, and Catholic priests and nuns.
Not long after the government released this narcoterrorist, the army moved against other narcoterrorists and it was through a subsequent radio interview that a high-ranking military official let it “slip” that information leading to these new arrests had come from the narcoterrorist recently released from jail. It wasn’t true … but someone found the thug's horribly mutilated body within two days. Some argued that justice comes in many forms.
In May 2011, President Barack Obama made a televised announcement about his victory over Osama bin Laden. In this speech, Obama identified Pakistani doctor Shakil Afridi as the person responsible for fingering bin Laden to US intelligence agents. Afridi is now serving 33 years in prison for treason. Is this mere coincidence, or is it something more sinister? Would Barack Hussein Obama destroy a Pakistani family in order to serve his own presidency?
Now let us consider this glut of White House leaks of national security information to the New York Times involving covert operations in Iran, and the so-called "kill list," which some say are designed to make Obama appear competent and “in charge.” In the case of Dr. Afridi, was it Obama’s intention to warn other pro-American Muslims to keep their mouths shut? Is Mr. Obama attempting to conform to his Muslim roots, providing aid and comfort to our enemy, without actually committing an overt act of treason?
President Obama has proven he is a very clever fellow. No matter, eh? We are only speaking about the security of the United States of America.
Not long after the government released this narcoterrorist, the army moved against other narcoterrorists and it was through a subsequent radio interview that a high-ranking military official let it “slip” that information leading to these new arrests had come from the narcoterrorist recently released from jail. It wasn’t true … but someone found the thug's horribly mutilated body within two days. Some argued that justice comes in many forms.
In May 2011, President Barack Obama made a televised announcement about his victory over Osama bin Laden. In this speech, Obama identified Pakistani doctor Shakil Afridi as the person responsible for fingering bin Laden to US intelligence agents. Afridi is now serving 33 years in prison for treason. Is this mere coincidence, or is it something more sinister? Would Barack Hussein Obama destroy a Pakistani family in order to serve his own presidency?
Now let us consider this glut of White House leaks of national security information to the New York Times involving covert operations in Iran, and the so-called "kill list," which some say are designed to make Obama appear competent and “in charge.” In the case of Dr. Afridi, was it Obama’s intention to warn other pro-American Muslims to keep their mouths shut? Is Mr. Obama attempting to conform to his Muslim roots, providing aid and comfort to our enemy, without actually committing an overt act of treason?
President Obama has proven he is a very clever fellow. No matter, eh? We are only speaking about the security of the United States of America.
Sam,
ReplyDeleteIn the case of Dr. Afridi, was it Obama’s intention to warn other pro-American Muslims to keep their mouths shut? Is Mr. Obama attempting to conform to his Muslim roots, providing aid and comfort to our enemy, without actually committing an overt act of treason?
Or, shilling for votes for November.
I believe that Obama will do ANYTHING to win in November. Are there any limits to that "anything"? I doubt it.
Already, Obama has engineered and executed policies that even the most paranoid of us would have considered UNTHINKABLE some four years ago.
Hi Sam, AOW.
ReplyDeleteI came yesterday across a post that seems a bit 'hidden' in the MSN.
Tried to find out more about it but some post have been 'scrubbed'
PNB - Partners for a new beginning launched by Obama at the start of his presidency.
Quote:
"global Network of Interfaith Leaders (Interfaith Youth
Core): The Interfaith Youth Core commits to create
a global network of interfaith leaders in the U.S. and
Muslim countries over the next four years, training and
equipping over 1,000 interfaith leaders this year alone."
Intel teach: The Intel Teach Program has trained over
7 million teachers in more than 60 countries, and over
550 thousand teachers in PNB focus countries (Egypt,
Palestine and Turkey). Intel is willing to expand this
program further with the support of PNB to improve
teaching and learning through the effective use
of technology.
Sounds pretty impressive 'outreach to Muslims' don't it?
And has anybody heard about it?
Egypt , Palestine and Turkey.....All Obama's 'buddies'?
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-based-group-helps-female-entrepreneurs.aspx?pageID=238&nid=22587&NewsCatID=338
Great graphic!
ReplyDeleteI will post that graphic at my web site on Friday.
I have no doubt that the security leaks were well orchestrated. Whether to bolster Obama's standing or some other more sinister purpose, I don't know.
ReplyDeleteWhat has happened to Dr. Afridi is a disgrace on the United States and we have every obligation to make it right.
Will,
ReplyDeleteIf you find more information on that topic, please let me know. Thanks.
Comandante Zero is only in it for himself.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Latin America story!
Reminds me of doing duty down there. I was a military advisor in a South American Country and went to the embassy to pick up messages. I had to use the back entrance because an anti-American rabble, stirred up by communists, was blocking the front entrance.
The ambassador was watching it from the third story window and I mentioned to her that it was a big crowd.
"Yeah," she replied, "but if I went down there right now and handed out visas, they'd be off to the airport without even saying goodbye to their families."
Our perfidious President's prevarications presents a perception of poor performance in our political position in Pakistan. Pining for popularity puts perfectly pleasing players in prisons.
ReplyDeleteOr, something like that. It's a slow day, word wise.
The great game goes on.
ReplyDeleteWho leaked? Pakistani intelligence?
What are the repercussions of using a phony polio vaccination program?
Who's buying all that dope?
But we just sit and assume we have clean hands. Pathetic.
As I said yester in my post on all the leaks, Obama cares about nothing and nobody except himself.
ReplyDeleteDucky, you say "
ReplyDeleteBut we just sit and assume we have clean hands. Pathetic."
Are you joking or uninformed? Dianne Feinstein (believe it or not) and many Republican senators are trying to tell you that WE DID IT, that YOUR HERO OBAMA DID IT and, possibly, for political gain "Oh, look! Obama's working so hard to protect us...what a man, we need him for another four years"
Don't you listen to real media?
SAM...excellent piece..chilling and scary but we have to all understand what he's doing to us.
Yes, "only" the security of the United States of America. man.
Ducky only listens to "Reel" Media
ReplyDelete"Would Barack Hussein Obama destroy a Pakistani family in order to serve his own presidency?"
ReplyDeleteAre you kidding? BHO would let Robert Mugabe or Hugo Chavez -- or Charles Manson -- take his daughter's maidenheads if he thought it might help him gain even so much as an inch ground politically -- assuming the odious foreign chieftans and the filthy degenerate murderer would have either Sasha or Malia both of whom seem sadly ill-favored by the gods -- poor things!
~ FreeThinke
I can’t find it in me to give Obama the sort of credit we must extend to the Machiavellian army officer in this anecdote. If Obama is clever, he is much too clever for our nation’s good. But rather than wondering how clever Obama is, we should wonder about the ineptness of the American voter, who elected him in the first place. Yesterday, I opined at Z’s blog there is nothing culturally American about Obama; today I should add, there is nothing even remotely Christian about him, either. Personally, I would rather have a bad Christian in the White House than a good Moslem.
ReplyDeleteOsama is dead, Kadaffi is dead, Al Queda is decimated and their number 2 was killed two days ago. I feel a whole lot safer with Obama than Bush and certainly Romney!
ReplyDeleteSam,
ReplyDeleteyour comparison fails in many aspects.
Most certainly the scenario given shows how governments in developing countries often circumvented their own laws that define what is possible or not (that released the narco-thug).
Though interesting, it does not define what the power/influence/value of the US mission's role there. Remember, of course, that countries are sovereign states, not subject to US laws.
Your link to Pakistan and the sad case of Dr Afridi does not match in any calculation and I wonder if it was a bit of wishful thinking on your part to link them.
It is more than obvious that Afridi was a victim in all circumstances. That the US and Pakistan are arguing over the obvious US unlawful action (under international law) and the obvious support of a foreign intelligence agency by one of their own nationals (in any country that is also illegal, including in the US if the situation was reversed). Pakistan was embarassed by the Bin Laden killing and the self-evident inability of their government to control their own country/border/allegences. They have chosen to make a point by going over Afridi instead of behind closed doors thanking him and expelling him to America.
What this has to do with Obama in your argument is not clear and your comments such as "his Muslim routes" is frankly a rediculous and text-book bigoted statement.
I would ask you to clarify things but then again Sam, your the one whom has made it laughably clear that you do not believe that "foreign policy" should be discussed with someone who is "foreign"...... sheesh!
Damien Charles
ps, I am no supporter of Obama, except in his foreign policy which is a mountain versus the crater of past policies.
Lib-Mann "Osama is dead, Kadaffi is dead, ..."
ReplyDeleteSo is Anwar al-Awlaki. I don't have much in the way of sympathy for the s.o.b., but just on general principles, having the President knowingly order the killing of an American citizen without due process sets a terrible precedent. Don't you think?
Hell, declaring any combat age male a combatant and blowing them away with a drone strike would offend almost anyone.
ReplyDeleteOne of Obummer's policies that mustang approves of.
But it's all part of the great game and do you ever really know who's screwing whom? Can you know?
Mr. Damien, I actually welcome your criticism when tendered with good will and respect. For the record, I do not so much object to discussing the effect of American foreign policy. I simply believe your opinions with respect to the formulation of American foreign policy must be “un-American” in the same way that my opinions about formulation of British foreign policy must be something other than British. I’m sorry if this truth hurt your feelings.
ReplyDeleteTo reiterate my position, I think American foreign policy should “first, do no harm.” It should be ethnical, honest, and reflective of American cultural ethos. It should not work against the interests of the American people. I am tired of listening to high ranking American officials tout “American interests,” when these same people are incapable of explaining what those interests are. I stand by my claim that American diplomatic incompetence has been a problem for far too long.
I do expect the USA (and other nations) to work in their own interests. I do not blame Israel for the sins of Jonathan Pollard. As we must hold Mr. Pollard accountable for his decisions, we must conclude that Israel’s motivations are perfectly understandable in “the great game.”
I agree that Dr. Alfridi was a victim, but he alone placed himself in jeopardy. If he did not imagine there could be serious consequences to his treasonous behavior, then he is a fool. In Solomon’s court, the injured party here is Pakistan, whose reaction to the Alfridi treason is perfectly understandable to me.
I direct my criticism toward an American president whom, in my opinion, flirts with treasonous behavior when he releases the name of an American intelligence asset to the press. We should wonder why he would do such a thing. We should similarly wonder why Secretary Panetta would release the name of the commander of the Seal Team that led the assault upon Osama bin Laden. We should wonder why Secretary Clinton and President Obama would publicize covert activities against Iran.
Now Mr. Damien, try to refrain from name-calling. You only diminish yourself by calling me a bigot. I do not think I am a bigot; I simply do not share your one-world socialist pro-Islamacist mentality. I call things the way I see them. Islamic extremism is the enemy of my country; this means that Islamic extremism is my enemy, as well. As an issue, it is relevant because I believe Barack Obama is a Trojan horse; he is someone raised as a Moslem, influenced by black (Marxist) theology, and someone who grew up understanding how easy it is to manipulate the American voter. In the Islamic world, Obama’s taqiyya is acceptable subterfuge. In my culture, such behavior is dishonest and un-American. In my religion, such deceit is damnable.
Sam,
ReplyDeletein the most polite of terms your what is known as an "arrogant ignorant". I say that with absolute certainty.
I would add that no your not a bigot, simply because a bigot knows that they are one and perhaps you do not know as your arrogant ignorance has perhaps blinded you to that fact.
Now, why do I say that?
For a start your comment "I simply do not share your one-world socialist pro-Islamacist mentality". That you have automatically assumed because I disagree with you, do not aspire to the flagrant lack of understanding of anything 'Islamic' and that I consider Obama's foreign policy to be way better since Bush snr - that somehow I am a socialist or pro-Islamist. Simply put, that is utter nonesense.
I am, in fact, a paid and active member of the British Conservative Party and that says it all. My regular comments on Islam on this and other blogs is simply pointing out factual errors, illogical rants and bigoted statements. I do not defend Muslims at all.
Like you, I believe that Islamic extremism is an enemy to not only my country but globally but I will add all forms of extremism be it religious, political or social is evil.
Your ignorance goes further with what can only be the defined as dumbfounded lunacy that Obama is a Muslim. I suspect you are also a birther and believe that crop circles are alien in origin.
Obama is not only declared but an active Christian. To any Muslim or those who know Muslims Obama is also quite obviously Christian and not Muslim. He can neither pronounce simple words like "hijab" correctly, drinks his beer, eats pork and failed basic Islam 101 at other well recorded moments.
Like the birther BS claiming that Obama as being a Muslim AND with some Islamic agenda is a sad example of clutching at straws or worse - fabricating for some other agenda. I suspect it is a part of both simply because you through in the "taqiyya" word.
The word "taqiyya" is a word used by almost exclusively by the blogging anti-Islam movement. It was a lost term that only Muslim historians remember but was pulled out by the hate-blogger Robert Spencer and promoted by him. If you go to any Muslim country and ask what it is, you will get a 95 to 99 per cent "I do not know" response. Some clerics or students will know and they will respond that it is a historical permission given to those who's life or their family's life is at risk to simply not tell the truth. Spencer, of course, redefined what it is.
That you spout that Obama is a Muslim and on some Islamic agenda as well as use the taqiyya farce tells me that your just another one of those blog-based haters and an arrogant ignorant. You may be a bigot, that is still up for grabs.
A last comment. Discussing American foreign policy or policy formulation is up for grabs to anyone if you discuss it in a public forum. Your welcome if I discuss British FP to join in and I should be equally welcome if the topic is American. That is simple logic. As for Afghanistan/Pakistan, yes the doctor chose to do an act he very well knows was treason and that he did not make a condition with your intellegance agency to pull him out is his other big mistake. Incidently drone strikes are illegal, the attack on Bin Laden was illegal but if I was in charge I am sure I would also do it. My "beef" is that nations (both yours and mine) do not simply open up and say "we are going to do it anyway because our national security is at stake". Pannetta actually sort of said it today in regards to the last one, we need more of that. Incidently, the last individual who talked like that was Rummsfeld, which I think is contradictory in many ways.
Damien Charles
To answer your question "YES". Love the image.
ReplyDeleteDebbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com
Nous devons conclure que Charles est menteur et aucun membre du Parlement britannique, ou il utilise un pseudonyme et pourrait appartenir au Parlement de Gibraltar ; s'il est conservateur, alors j'ai peur le mouvement conservateur dans les Britanniques territoires étrangers sont dans l'ennui sérieux. Le seul moyen vous pouvez prévoir que l'accord avec lui est d'être d'accord avec son idéologie socialiste pro-islamique.
ReplyDeleteal Qaeda is decimated? Do you really believe this Lib? Is this anther fact you got from HuffPo.
ReplyDeleteAs to the post, I'm with Mustang. While I would not put anything past Obama, this seems too much for him to pull together.
Chuck, decimated only means one tenth, so there is no cause for celebration, IMO. The most only asks, “What would prompt a sitting president to finger an intelligence asset?” I can only conclude that (a) he did it on purpose, or (b) he did it from sheer incompetence. Either way, it cannot bode well for the United States.
ReplyDeleteLouis, Vous raisonnez bien, mon ami.
To Sam's mind, decimated means there are fewer than a couple thousand Muslims left alive.
ReplyDeleteIt's a Protestant thing.
... but I'll give you credit, Sam. You absolutely had your lights punched out but you got right back up and admitted none of your errors just like a good fringe right winger.
ReplyDeleteThis Damien Charles needs to learn how to spell correctly. If he is going to post a specious argument to begin with, he should at least show a little literacy. Obviously orthographically challenged people should never debate the clearly literate in a public forum.
ReplyDeleteHe's English you dipstick and uses English spelling.
ReplyDeleteDuck,
ReplyDeleteHe's English you dipstick and uses English spelling.
It's something more than that -- and, unless I miss my guess, something more that Damien eyesight problems and using an iPad with an on-screen keyboard.
Perhaps Damien will tell us if English is his first language or if a North African language is his mother tongue. Perhaps Llanito is Damien's mother tongue.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteYou can spin what has happened with Dr. Afridi any way you like.
But the FACT remains that Obama did release covert information to the public. THAT is outrageous!
Furthermore, it is my understanding that Obama also released private information about at least one of the Navy Seals involved in the killing of Osama bin Laden; I haven't confirmed that information, however.
I did find THIS. Excerpt:
...Unfortunately for Obama, serving and former Navy Seals aren’t keeping quiet about his political victory lap, as they’ve come out against Obama.
"I think every president would have done the same. He is justified in saying it was his decision but the preparation, the sacrifice - it was a broader team effort," a former Navy SEAL and Team 6 assault leader is quoted as saying the Daily Mail Online, "The President and his administration are positioning him as a war president using the SEALs as ammunition. It was predictable."...
More, from a different source HERE. Brief excerpt:
...Clint Bruce, who gave up the chance of an NFL career to serve as a SEAL officer before retiring as a lieutenant after nine years, said: ‘We were extremely surprised and discouraged by the publicity because it compromises the ability of those guys to operate.
‘It’s a waste of time to speculate about who would and wouldn’t have made that decision. It was a symphony of opportunity and intelligence that allowed this administration to give the green light. We want to acknowledge that they made that decision.
‘Politicians should let the public know where they stand on national security but not in the play-by-play, detailed way that has been done recently. The intricacies of national security should not become part of stump speeches.’
Obama is in the political fight of his life right now. Indeed, the man has zero experience with losing and with setbacks. In other words, he has reached a level of desperation, which, combined with his ego, results in words and actions that threaten America's interests.
Pakistan is indeed a sovereign nation, one that apparently knew the location of OBL for a long time. Pakistan, of course, loves those American dollars coming in and, therefore, plays a sort of double-agent role.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteIn case you missed it...
Z has mentioned something that needs further attention: Diana Feinstein's concerns about what Obama has done with security leaks. Feinstein is a staunch Democrat! Excerpt from the above link:
"As lawmakers call for formal investigations into the sources of recent leaks that have divulged details of highly classified national security programs, Sen. Dianne Feinstein is looking to the Intelligence Authorization Bill as a way to make people who leak
such information more accountable.
In an interview with Wolf Blitzer on the Situation Room, Feinstein
said, "I think what we're seeing, Wolf, is an avalanche of leaks and it is very, very disturbing. It's dismayed our allies. It puts American lives in jeopardy. It puts our nation's security in jeopardy."
Ranking members of both the Senate and House Intelligence Committees
have joined Feinstein, D-California, in her calls for adding provisions that would require that lawmakers be notified in a more timely fashion when authorized disclosures are made, and for individuals to report the
rationale behind those decisions. Other provisions are expected to call for more robust investigations of unauthorized disclosures of information and are expected to ask for additional authorities that would make it easier to drill down on the source of leaks and then prosecute those found to be responsible.
Government employees with access to highly classified information are violating federal laws and nondisclosure agreements if they pass classified information to persons who have not been cleared to receive it."...
So, it is not only Sam who is concerned about what Obama is doing with these leaks. Even Obama's SUPPORTERS are concerned! And rightly so, IMO.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteDianne Feinstein is the Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman -- and a Democrat who clearly isn't anti-Obama on most issues. But not this one about national and international security. Very telling!
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteI advise you NOT to say something like the following again when debating with my co-blogger Sam Huntington: your what is known as an "arrogant ignorant".
Frankly, sir, you have a very irritating character flaw: when someone is in disagreement with you, you call that person "ignorant." You need to realize that everyone who disagrees with you is NOT stupid.
You're always bragging about all the degrees you hold. Well, I'm here to tell you that Sam has some advanced degrees, too. In fact, they rival yours -- or the ones you CLAIM to have, anyway.
Do you get up in court and call your opposing attorney stupid or ignorant? Or, maybe you're not a courtroom attorney. Whatever. In my experience, attorneys worth their salt speak in a different manner -- particularly in a public forum.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteAlthough you didn't directly mention the following (From The Reliance of the Traveller, once endorsed by Al Hazar, the world's highest learning Islamic school, I'm putting in the information below:
JUSTICE CHAPTER: NON-MUSLIM SUBJECTS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE (AHL AL-DHIMMA)
o11.1 A formal agreement of protection is made with citizens who are:
(1) Jews;
(2) Christians;
(3) Zoroastrians;
(4) Samarians and Sabians, if their religions do not respectively contradict the fundamental bases of Judaism and Christianity;
(5) and those who adhere to the religion of Abraham or one of the other prophets (upon whom be blessings and peace).
o11.2 Such an agreement may not be effected with those who are idol worshippers, or those who do not have a Sacred Book or something that could have been a book.
(A: Something that could have been a Book refers to those like the Zoroastrians, who have remnants resembling an ancient Book. As for the psuedoscriptures of cults that have appeared since Islam (n: such as the Sikh, Baha’is, Mormons, Qadianis, etc.) they are neither are nor could be a Book since the Koran is the final revelation.)
o11.3 Such an agreement is only valid when the subject peoples:
(a) follow the rules of Islam (o11.5) (A: those mentioned below (o11.5) and those involving public behavior and dress, though in acts of worship and their private lives, the subject communities have their own laws, judges, and courts, enforcing the rules of their own religion among themselves);
(b) and pay the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)
THE NON-MUSLIM POLL TAX
o11.4 The minimum non-Muslim poll tax is on dinar (n: 4.235 grams of gold) per person (A: per year) The maximum is whatever both sides agree upon.
It is collected with leniency and politeness, as are all debts, and it not levied on women, children, or the insane.
o11.5 Such non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they:
(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness:
(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar)
(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu ‘alaykun”;
(4) must keep to the side of the street;
(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;
(6) are forbidden to openly display wine or pork (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays;
(7) and are forbidden to build new churches
o11.6 They are forbidden to reside in the Hijaz, meaning the area and towns around Mecca, Medina, and Yamama, for more than three days (when the caliph allows them to enter there for something they need).
o11.7 A non-Muslim may not enter the Meccan Sacred Precinct (Haram) under any circumstances, or enter any other mosque without persmission (A: nor may Muslims enter churches without their permission).
o11.8 It is obligatory for the caliph to protect those of them who are in Muslim lands just as he would Muslims, and to seek the release of those captured....
(continued below)
(continued)
ReplyDelete...o11.9 If non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state refuse to conform to the rules of Islam or pay the non-Muslim poll tax, than their agreement with the state has been violated. (dis: o11.11) (A: though if only one of them disobeys, it concerns him alone).
o11.10 The agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:
(1) commits adultery with a Muslim woman or marries her;
(2) conceals spies of hostile forces;
(3) leads a Muslim away from Islam;
(4) kills a Muslim;
(5) or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.
o11.11 When a subject’s agreement with the state has been violated, the caliph chooses between the four alternatives mentioned in connection with prisoners of war (o9.14).
PRISONERS OF WAR
o9.14 When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph considers the interests
(O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner’s death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or a Muslim captive held by the enemy.
If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses any of the four alternatives) then he may not be killed , and one of the other three alternatives is chosen.
Damien Charles,
ReplyDeleteAnd one more thing about Breivik...He was obsessed with this video game.
You cannot ban EVERYTHING that might set off a nutjob, particularly one on steroids.
Hmmmmm....
ReplyDeleteObama Admin Scrubs Human Rights Report Of Muslim Persecution Of Christians In Islamic Nations By Purging Religious Freedom Section…
The U.S. State Department removed the sections covering religious freedom from the Country Reports on Human Rights that it released on May 24, three months past the statutory deadline Congress set for the release of these reports.
The new human rights reports–purged of the sections that discuss the status of religious freedom in each of the countries covered–are also the human rights reports that cover the period that covered the Arab Spring and its aftermath.
Thus, the reports do not provide in-depth coverage of what has happened to Christians and other religious minorities in predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East that saw the rise of revolutionary movements in 2011 in which Islamist forces played an instrumental role.
For the first time ever, the State Department simply eliminated the section of religious freedom in its reports...
Duckbreath:
ReplyDeleteA dipstick sounds the depths and reveals any shortage, so I'll take that as a compliment. Now, assuming in my no doubt excessive generosity that you see what you read, surely you noticed, among many of "Damien's" incorrect spellings and usages, that he consistently types "Your" for the abbreviation "You are"? You did notice that? Yes?
Are you seriously saying that's the way the Brits type it? If you are, do you expect us to believe that, or maybe you just think that if you make the statement, that it will become reality because your massive intellectual acumen will garner immediate global acceptance of anything you aver?
Just asking.
AOW,
ReplyDeleteI provoke on purpose and thus do not apologize for my tone.
Secondly, I do not use my qualifications as a raised flag but I use the study in tandemn with my experience. There are a lot of bad and obviously good people with high eduction. Both the war criminal (under trial) and former Bosnian Serb President and presumably future war criminal Syrian President Assad are highly educated and Psychiatrists.
There is actually a debatable social trait that is called "AIIA". It stands for Arrogant Ignorance and Ignorant Arrogance. I think the term is self explanitory and that Sam is showing one of them. In a nutshell they arrogantly push a set of principle that cannot be defended by either logic or morals and blindly will continue down the track to a point of arrogance.
Sam has shown this in a number of postings and I frankly wonder why you have tainted your blog with his presence. That Obama is a Muslim is the prefect example as would anyone sill preaching birther arguments. I make no comment on US politics and his comments on that as I am neither present in or fully particapative to qualify for a comment - to do so would quallify for the other half of AIIA.
Make no bones about it, his rediculous conspiritorial view that somehow Obama is a Muslim plant makes him (and thus your blog) on the verge of hysterical and laughable.
Damien Charles
Black Sheep,
ReplyDelete1. My short vision is about 40 per cent effective and failing fast.
2. I have fat fingers and due to my sight issues I am frankly not bothered to try and correct what I wrote on this absolutely horrid iPad. Additionally though the main text I can expand, the blogger box will not enlarge and thus I simply do not bother.
3. Finally, to be short and sweet on the topic, the US frankly has already destroyed our language over the years and in particularly with the arrival of social networking.
With respect
Damien Charles
AOW,
ReplyDeleteBrevik's drug taking is no suprise and not linked to my point. It is the environment and the encouragement (based on context-abused information) that spurred his psychosis to that flashpoint.
We all know which were the main blogs that he visited and who he quoted from - but it is the entire community that surrounded those particular blogs that pushed the false image of a larger support base and that their information was somehow true that has a level of responsibility that needs to be both acknowledged and understood. Fjordsman (or whatever his name is), Gates of Vienna et all helped created this exagerated environment. Sam pushes the same boogey man in a different way and considering you praise his education then I can assume he is a part of the problem and not just a victim of it.
Damien Charles
AOW,
ReplyDeleteIt is good you have both a friend and confidence in your dentist.
In my own case (and I am 265 pounds by the way) because of my failing vision my wife installed kid-safe barriers on the tops of each stair. My home is a terrace home with three floors plus basement). We overlook the see from a cliff edge and a wonderful view but I knew that at some point all those stairs will take revenge for my greed. I still have OK long distance vision and binoculars (and a telescope) allows me much pleasure but I am now at a point that I have officially retired (end of last month) simply because I strain myself to read/write and as you can guess - lawers basically do mostly that. Yesterday at lunch I asked for the salt and my very patient wife grabbed something that in fact was in front of me. She tries to make it a joke but I know that she must be worried both for me and for the care I will need soon.
That is one reason why I have not given up on you completely - blog wise - because frankly speaking I am proud of your attitude to care and duty and without question but instead dedication.
Damien
Sam,
ReplyDeleteYour response to Mr. Charles is beautiful piece of writing, elegant, restrained, honest, to the point, and well phrased.
Thank you for providing such exemplary prose.
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Black Sheep,
We often disagree in certain areas, but your assessment of Mr. Charles's use of English is dead on target. I have discussed this with him before, and he has freely admitted that, despite having been schooled at Harrow, the academy from which Winston Churchill graduated, he is more conversant with Spanish than English.
When someone uses a language with which they are not familiar from birth, I believe we ought to give them some leeway and accept a certain awkwardness or quaintness without condemnation.
I have studied both French and German, and have a basic working knowledge of both, but I would hate to have to express myself in either language in a forum such as this -- or anywhere else in public. The results might be "comprehensible," but to a native German or Frenchman they would also be risible in the extreme, I'm sure.
I applaud Mr. Charles for having the courage of his convictions, and his bravery in using English, however, quaintly. I do not applaud him, however, for the aura of pompous condescension with which he tends to address American conservatives, nor do I applaud his extreme long-windedness.
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I would hope by now that we have all learned to take Canardo's fractious, fatuous, flatulent, farcical ferocity for what it is. Such froward foolishness deserves no response whatsoever. The creature is nothing more than a clown -- and an unamusing one at that.
I suggest we should treat him the way civilized people treat someone who farts in an elevator.
"And how is that?" you ask.
AS SOMETHING WE SHOULD, as ladies and gentlemen, STRIVE TO IGNORE.
~ FreeThinke
AOW,
ReplyDeletehere is a lesson in "Islam & Society".
What Al Azhar says is the clerical/theological view of that institute. It is respected and academically speaking it is even more so.
Having said that, the following applies:
1. It has no power of any governments.
2. What you have read out is not implemented by any governments, why is that?
3. The vast bulk of the Muslim world does not in fact follow those "edicts" and rightly considers them to be examples of a Utopian world based on past events.
4. Only radicals, ultra conservative groups and anti-Islam bloggers or activists actually put some present-day value to them.
Not one of 56 Muslim nations actually implements any such laws based on such edicts. Of the 13 conservatively strict Muslim Nations, they modify according to their own political needs.
In other words, your quoting was a wasted cut & paste.
A last comment regarding the religous persecution item. I am personally very dissapointed that it was cut out but that is what politics does and it is across the board. Remember that religous persecution happens in various ways and not all by Muslims, also that politics and other interest groups can exagerate to try and garner more sympathy (and money or influence). The best example of that is the Copts/Assyrian community. As they have a large, influencial and financially strong community in the US they try and push for influence. Certain parts of their community have been caught out on a number of times fabricating and exagerating incidents and the Copt community of Alexandria in Egypt actually asked the Copts in America to stop making things up. Yes there is a great problem and some very well known incidents but frankly speaking it is exagerated. Similar problems occur with baised reporting say in India. Concentration of Muslim incidents whilst ignoring Hindu extremist actions against Christians in Assam. Everyone talks about Boko Haram in Nigeria but little is discussed about the Lord's Resistance Army, etc, etc.
Damien Charles
FT,
ReplyDeleteyour sermons exactly remind me of the overwhelming reaction people have when a pair of Mormon, Seventh Day or other missionairies turn up on the street. Close the door and do not answer because all they are going to do is pronounce a fringe view as being (in their mind) a global truth. Responding is a waste of time.
DC
ps, Harrow has had a Spanish language section component to its school since it opened.
"But we just sit and assume we have clean hands. Pathetic." I don't remember anybody making this assumption, except maybe Obama.
ReplyDelete"Obama is not only declared but an active Christian." You don't know. That's between Barack and Jesus. We do know that Obama has given speeches about the influence of Islam on his life. Perhaps you can point me to a speech where Barack talks about the meaning of Christ in his life. Of course, when he thinks his audience is Christian, then he is a Christian. I don't judge. I just watch what he does.
D Charles,
ReplyDeleteIt is the height of rudeness to tell me that what I did is a waste -- particularly in my own home. My blog is, in many respects, my home.
D Charles,
ReplyDeleteI frankly wonder why you have tainted your blog with [Sam's] presence.
I owe you no explanation -- and will not give one.
Furthermore, I will not allow such egregious remarks directed toward my co-blogger.
Stop it. Now.
Could this Damien person maybe be black? Sounds like an African who spent time in Europe but never understood what he saw. Very provincial.
ReplyDeleteAOW,
ReplyDeleteI will stop on this thread anyhow, but your "stop now" statement is in contradiction to all the statements you have made regarding "freedom of speech" and simply living with responses.
As for Sam, his postings that Obama is a Muslim plant and that only Americans should discuss on open blogs US foreign policies just cannot be taken seriously and thus I do not take him and his work for anything other than inane childish ranting.
That somehow you put value in his word and thus associate your blog to that level is - your problem.
Damien Charles
Mr. Charles,
ReplyDeleteYour observations might be received more kindly if you remembered and abided by this ancient saying:
"You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar."
Sincerely,
~ FreeThinke
D Charles,
ReplyDeleteBecause you were in violation of my terms for commenting, I said, "Stop it. Now."
Second portion of my comments policy here at my web site:
Caveat: Continued invectives and personal attacks will result in deletion.
You ascribe to others and to me motives are just your opinion, and you use insulting language and terminology. Do you get up in court and say such things to your opponent and/or to the judge? I think not -- unless you want to be found in contempt of court.
D Charles,
ReplyDeleteLet's get one thing straight....
Sam has my FULL SUPPORT in his posts here.
In fact, I am honored that Sam has consented to blog at my site.
It is your personal freedom not to read what Sam or I write.
It is NOT your freedom to insult me and my blogging partner in my home (my blog).