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Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Flashback About Otto Warmbier — And A Few Questions (With Addendum)

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I wasn't going to post today until I stumbled across the following about 22-year-old University of Virginia student Otto Warmbier, brought home in a persistent vegetative state. Home six days after eighteen months of imprisonment in North Korea, Otto Warmbier died on June 19, 2017, at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center.

From Grabien News...Flashback: Left-Wing Media Outlets Mocked U.Va. Student for 'White Privilege' Running out in N. Korea.
Before he died as a result of injuries suffered at the hands of his North Korean captors, a University of Virginia student, Otto Warmbier, was a target of mockery among left-wing media outlets like Comedy Central, the Huffington Post, and Salon.

"This might be America’s biggest idiot frat boy: Meet the UVa student who thought he could pull a prank in North Korea" ran a headline from Salon.com

The publication even suggested Warmbier deserved his fate:



The Huffington Post editorialized, "North Korea Proves Your White Male Privilege Is Not Universal":



Many of these outlets derisively noted the fact that Warmbier was a member of a fraternity.

"As shocked as I am by the sentence handed down to Warmbier, I am even more shocked that a grown man, an American citizen, would not only voluntarily enter North Korea but also commit what’s been described a 'college-style prank.' That kind of reckless gall is an unfortunate side effect of being socialized first as a white boy, and then as a white man in this country," La Sha wrote in the Huffington Post. "Every economic, academic, legal and social system in this country has for more than three centuries functioned with the implicit purpose of ensuring that white men are the primary benefactors of all privilege. The kind of arrogance bred by that kind of conditioning is pathogenic, causing its host to develop a subconscious yet no less obnoxious perception that the rules do not apply to him, or at least that their application is negotiable."

Worse, because Warmbier's white, Sha suggested his kidnapping may contain some element of justice....
Read the rest and watch the video HERE.

Aside from the above vileness of the Left, I have a few questions.

Why in the world did Otto Warmbier go on a tour of North Korea in the first place? Did he not understand what a brutal regime that of North Korea is?

And I must ask this question, without casting blame on anyone in particular...

Who paid for Otto Warmbier's tour of North Korea?

What a sad story — on several levels!

ADDENDUM

Thanks to FJ for this detailed account (BBC, June 21, 2017): Otto Warmbier: How did North Korea holiday end in jail, and a coma?

54 comments:

  1. The American left is brain-diseased. The "comedians" break the first law of comedy: They fail to be funny. They are angry, purple-faced ranters spewing hate.

    The good news is, they are scaring off the normals. The GOP benefits from Democrat Party F-Bombers by being not as bad.

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    1. Myself, I think it poor taste (the coin of the realm right now) to turn his arrest into a comedy sketch.
      Of course his fate wasn't completely known at the time but that's a weak excuse.

      Rachel Corrie's was and if you go back to the (m)Ann Coulter and Michael Savage (your favorite) archives you'll find very sensitive treatment of that tragedy.
      But even sadder is the fact the right wouldn't even consider it a tragedy.

      You've lost your way.

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    2. which conservative comics joked about Rachel Corrie? I missed that. I considered her death a tragedy, and so preventable...but good try.

      "you've lost your way"...hilarious. The country's falling apart due to sanctuary cities, the liberal gov of California is now dedicating 3 million dollars to give to the defense of illegals so they can sue California...etc etc etc...and you think WE have lost OUR way? :-)

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    3. I'm very clear about who made the disparaging comments about Corrie.

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    4. OK Ducky, I'll defend Coulter when you defend Jeremy Christian, since he was a fellow Bernie Bro of yours:

      "Bernie Sanders was the President I wanted," wrote Christian in December. "He voiced my heart and mind. The one who spoke about the way America should gone. Away from the Military and Prison Industrial Complexes. The Trump is who America needs now that Bernie got ripped off."

      But on Nov. 11, he posted that he was unable to bring himself to vote for Trump.

      "I've had it!!! I gonna kill everybody who voted for Trump or Hillary!!!"


      http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/who_is_jeremy_christian_facebo.html

      What makes progressive Democrats so murderous, Ducky?

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    5. Ducky,

      You are "very clear about who made the disparaging comments about Corrie"?

      OK, the please give us the Michael Savage quote. I'll examine it and give you my opinion.

      Until you can do that, your comments are just quacking flatulence.

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    6. Ducky,

      BTW, thank you for confirming my prediction (see below) that you would engage in your usual Canardo Deflections.

      I predicted you would go straight to your usual Beantown Tu Quack-Que

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    7. SF @ Duck,
      SF, you have a way with words:

      your comments are just quacking flatulence.

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    8. SF,
      Jeremy Christian was quite a piece of work. To say the least! And he did indeed post this:

      "I've had it!!! I gonna kill everybody who voted for Trump or Hillary!!!"

      He appears to have been a Bernie supporter.

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    9. AOW: He was a self-avowed Bernie supporter!

      How many more leftwing loon fans of this man are going to explode?

      Thank you for the compliment. I think it was Farmer who came up with the Tu Quack-Que, albeit in a different form. I decided to steal it and recast it in my own preferred spelling.

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    10. Prefaced by the Beantown.

      Gotta have a few laughs!

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    11. Tu Quackee was mine, but I share... - (((The Thought Criminal formerly known as Beamish)))

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  2. POSTED at MY BLOG this AM:

    We note with PROFOUND SADNESS –– and UNBRIDLED RAGE –– the tragic death yesterday of 22-year-old OTTO WARMBIER who was TORTURED and MURDERED at the hands of North Korea's brutal dictator KIM JONG UN.

    May His Death Quickly Be Avenged.

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    1. FT,
      Certainly Otto Warmbier's death was a tragedy. And, yes, the regime of Kim Jong Un murdered the young man.

      In my view, Otto Warmbier died in North Korea. Look at what his condition was upon return here!

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    2. How do you propose to avenge him, cut diplomatic relations with North Korea?
      Start a war that destroys Seoul?

      I'm curious.
      But Trump did issue a harsh rebuke.

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  3. The attempt to de-sensitize us from compassion and concern. Hardening the heart so the taking of life becomes easier. Lessen the value.

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    1. Funny, I had similar thoughts.

      It the past, an incident like this would have roused red-blooded American passion for military retribution, possibly sparking a citizen-demanded war.

      Good thing patriotism and compassion have been drained from our society! *sarc*

      Progressives see this as a good thing. As long as we enjoy cheap pot and abortions, nobody cares...

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    2. The days of red blooded Americans cheering as Reagan sent in the Marines into Granada to save some students is long past.

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    3. Bunkerville:
      The attempt to de-sensitize us from compassion and concern. Hardening the heart so the taking of life becomes easier. Lessen the value.

      Excellent point!

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  4. Harping on the [patently obvious] "Vileness of the Left" does NOTHING to aid the family of Otto Warmbier in this their time of deepest grief. Neither does it serve to advance the cause of AVENGING Otto's brutal MURDER at the hands of North Korean barbarians one iota.

    Instead of all this self-indulgent handwringing and cataloguing of the evil deeds of stupid, evil people we should do all we can to recognize, praise and promote the manifest SUPERIORITY of the WEST, of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA in PARTICULAR, of the CHRISTIAN GOSPEL, and of LIBERTARIANISM, which was and still remains the BASIS of our Founding and early, most astonishing success.

    That said, anyone who expresses a desire to visit ANY of the many Godforsaken SAVAGE areas in ASIA, AFRICA and the MIDDLE EAST where BRUTAL REPRESSION and adovicacy of TERRORISM reign supreme should have his passport revoked, and immediately be confined in a MENTAL INSTITUTION for PSYCHIATRIC OBSERVATION. Either that, or we give 'em a pat on the shoulder, a slap in the rump, and a ONE-WAY TICKET to their destination of choice, wish them "Good Luck," and hold their funeral in advance.

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  5. I hope that, at some point today, commenters here will address the questions I have in the body of the blog post:

    Why in the world did Otto Warmbier go on a tour of North Korea in the first place? Did he not understand what a brutal regime that of North Korea is?

    And I must ask this question, without casting blame on anyone in particular...

    Who paid for Otto Warmbier's tour of North Korea?

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    1. Travel to North Korea isn't that uncommon.
      He had a tragic lapse of common sense and I partially blame the tour operator for not reminding the group to avoid anything provocative especially at a time when relations are terrible.

      I suspect his family fronted him the money. He was in China at the time and viewed this as a side trip.

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    2. Duck,
      He had a tragic lapse of common sense

      There seems to be some question as to whether Warmbier actually tore down that poster. The film is grainy, and the face cannot be seen.

      I agree with you about the tour operator. But why wasn't Warmbier more educated as to how iffy a tour of North Korea can be?

      I suspect his family fronted him the money. He was in China at the time and viewed this as a side trip.

      That's what I think, too.

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  6. Meanwhile, we ought to stop complaining, stop playing the game of Ain't It Awful? stop squabbling among ourselves, put our heads together, and try to find a way to COMBAT and DESTROY the much-too-powerful INFLUENCE of the ENEMEDIA, which is THE largest, most dangerous foe we face.

    How could we best defeat THEM without abandoning the First Amendment?

    "LITANIZING" is easy. Engaging in creative, problem-solving thinking is difficult.

    That IS The Question!

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    1. FT,
      How could we best defeat THEM without abandoning the First Amendment?

      That was my intent with this blog post. Show what the Left stands for, and people with decent souls will understand and turn on the Left.

      Isn't that what happened with David Horowitz? He finally saw the Left for the murderers they are and turned away. I'm hazy on the specifics, but I know that was the case with David Horowitz.

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  7. Why'd he go? From Wikipedia:

    Otto Warmbier was born on December 12, 1994, to Fred and Cindy (née Garber) Warmbier and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, to a family of American-Jewish descent and was one of three children in the family.[6][7] His father, Fred Warmbier, owns his own business, a metal-finishing company, that was featured in Forbes for its rapid growth in 2015.[8] In 2014, he contributed to the The New York Times' blog titled You're the Boss about running a small business.[9] Otto worked as an intern at the company from 2010 to 2013.[10]

    Otto Warmbier graduated from Wyoming High School in 2013 as the class salutatorian.[1] At the time of his trip to North Korea, he was a junior at the University of Virginia, where he was studying for a double major degree in commerce and economics and did an exchange at the London School of Economics.[11] Otto was a brother of the Theta Chi fraternity.[12][13][14] He was active in the Hillel Jewish campus organization at the University of Virginia, and had visited Israel in a Birthright Israel heritage trip for young Jewish adults.[15] He had two younger siblings.[16]

    Trip to North Korea

    The Yanggakdo International Hotel in Pyongyang, where the alleged theft took place

    Fred Warmbier stated that his son Otto was traveling in China at the end of 2015 when he saw a company offering trips to North Korea. He decided to go because he was adventurous, according to his father, who accused the tour operator of specifically targeting young Westerners with slogans like, "This is the trip your parents don't want you to take!" Fred Warmbier said the China-based tour operator, Young Pioneer Tours, advertised the trip as safe for U.S. citizens.[2] Danny Gratton, an adventurous British sales manager, met Warmbier in Beijing as the two boarded the tour flight to Pyongyang. The two struck up a friendship and were roommates on the trip. They stuck together from the time they got to Pyongyang until Warmbier was arrested.[17]

    Warmbier traveled to North Korea for a five-day New Year's tour of the country organized by Young Pioneer Tours. Ten other U.S. citizens were in his tour group.[3][18][19][20][21] During his stay at the Yanggakdo International Hotel in Pyongyang, Warmbier allegedly stole a propaganda sign from a staff-only floor of the hotel.[22] The poster said, "Let's arm ourselves strongly with Kim Jong-il's patriotism!". Harming such items with the name or image of a North Korean leader is considered a serious crime by the government.

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    1. FJ,
      He decided to go because he was adventurous, according to his father, who accused the tour operator of specifically targeting young Westerners with slogans like, "This is the trip your parents don't want you to take!"

      Did the parents pay for his trip?

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    2. BTW, I heard this morning that that particular tour company has stopped offering trips to North Korea.

      [link]

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  8. I believe that he may have been on one of those "student exchange" study-abroad programs in China (he was an economic-commerce major), and this was "marketted" as a side-trip. So yes, his parents paid for the study-abroad program, much as I paid for my daughter to study 6 months in Paris w/NYU, and perhaps the side trip as well (much as my daughter went to Czechoslovakia, Italy and a few other places as well).

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    1. FJ,
      I, too, think that he was on one of those student exchange trips.

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    2. FJ,
      Excellent link! I've added it to the body of the blog post -- with a hat tip to you, of course.

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    3. From that account to which you linked, FJ:

      His studiousness - and interest in travel - were what took him to Asia. Otto had been set to study at a university in Hong Kong on a study abroad programme in January 2016 and decided to stop in North Korea on the way.

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    4. and

      there was "no indication at all" that Otto had taken the hotel propaganda sign and he had not mentioned it.

      The North Korean government has released grainy video footage showing a dark figure whose face cannot be seen removing a sign in a corridor.

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  9. Why in the world did Otto Warmbier go on a tour of North Korea in the first place?

    It's another symptom of our social media disease. In this case, Tyranny Tourism. Unless you're writing a thesis on nK, or pursuing some 'humanitarian' agenda....what other reason with young Otto have, other than Facebook notoriety?

    - CI

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    1. CI,
      I think that Facebook notoriety might well have been part of Warmbier's motivation.

      I also expect that alcohol was involved -- if he did indeed yank down that poster.

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  10. Something important I gleaned this morning after publishing this blog post:

    [R]eports about this tragic incident should also clearly state that the US government strongly warns American's about travelling to North Korea.

    Hmmmmmmmmm....

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  11. THE LEFTWING "FRAT BOY" MEME IS EVERYWHERE.
    A Dem strategist on Carlson's show the other night kept interrupting him with "Hey, ask your FRAT BROTHERS, they'll know the answer, Tucker...." over and over.
    Whites, Fraternities...got to GET 'EM..KILL 'EM WITH INSULTS....put them IN THEIR PLACE. That's the hideous leftwing BS. And this is what our kids hear...indoctrination at its best, thanks to the Left.

    BY the way, you have to love Carlson's brain....one leftwinger threw some SHakespearean quote at him and Carlson said "What?" So he says "Ask your frat brothers.." to which Carlson said "No, I'm asking you...which play is that from?"
    The guy didn't know...it was HYSTERICALLY funny and smart of Tucker.... response? "ask your frat brothers..." honestly.

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    1. Z,
      Carlson said "No, I'm asking you...which play is that from?"
      The guy didn't know...it was HYSTERICALLY funny and smart of Tucker.... response? "ask your frat brothers..."


      That's hilarious! I missed that segment, I think.

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  12. AOW...another truly funny thing is one of the libs Carlson interviewed recently referred to Conservatives who are fighting for free speech "snowflakes".....see what they Left's doing?
    Turning around the truth to attack the Right......"Snowflakes" was a term for the Left whose poor kids couldn't see the name TRUMP without running for cover and help, they MELTED at the slightest provocation from the Right.......so, the Left's apparently not happy and is using it against those who feel all students should learn how to face things that bother them with strength and facts. Sadly, they find it easier to insult and demean and turn it around.
    I'm hoping more and more people start noticing this.

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  13. I just have two questions... why does anyone want to go to North Korea?

    And, why does our government allow it? These incidents are so frequent, it just doesn't make sense...

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    1. And, why does our government allow it?

      And why wouldn't it? Why would the government of a 'free' Republic prohibit it's Citizens from traveling where the like [or at least can gain entry]?

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    2. Mr Z used to go crazy when people took chances like truly remote skiing, very high, etc....They're entitled to do that, he'd say, but when others might have to sacrifice themselves in attempting to save them or, like in the case of Otto Warmbier, the gov't has to pay a lot of money associated with his release and physically getting him home, etc., that's not fair to others in that free Republic...

      He had a point, I think. Just something to throw out for the sake of conversation....
      thoughts?

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  14. AOW, not sure if I've recommended a novel called THE ORPHAN MASTER'S SON to you? It's about life in N Korea..graphic, real, touching, astonishing...so sad. But SO well written. I highly recommend it to anybody who wants to know about what the people really go through, and have for years.

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    1. Z,
      Thanks for the reminder.

      I've heard that The Orphan Master's Son is an excellent book. I'll see if I can get a copy at my local public library.

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