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Tuesday, May 30, 2017

Another Manchester Victim?

7/7 London attack survivor Tony Walters has been found dead amid suicide fears

From the UK Sun (May 28, 2017):
7/7 HERO IS '23RD VICTIM': Survivor of 7/7 London terror attack Tony Walters, 52, found dead hours after Manchester bombing as friends claim ‘he didn’t want to live in a world where ­attacks continue’

Pals believe recent Westminster attack and Monday night's atrocity at an Ariana Grande concert brought back traumatic memories for the haunted 52-year-old

A SURVIVOR of 7/7 was found dead hours after the Manchester Arena attack — amid fears he took his own life.


Haunted Tony Walters, 52, was discovered at his home after failing to go to work. A friend said: “He is the 23rd victim of Salman Abedi‘s suicide bombing.”

Friends believe he killed himself because he was overwhelmed by the horror of yet more innocent lives lost to terrorism.

One said: “He didn’t want to live in a world where these ­terror attacks continue.”

[...]

On July 7, 2005, Tony was yards from fanatic Mohammad Sidique Khan when he detonated a device on a Tube train after it left Edgware Road station.

Seven people, including Khan, died. Tony was showered with shrapnel but survived.

Friends believe the Manchester bombing, coupled with the Westminster attack in March when four people were killed by Khalid Masood, brought back traumatic memories of 7/7 and Tony could not cope.

[...]

“Everyone that knew Tony believes he is the 23rd victim of the Manchester Arena attack....
Read the entire article HERE.

The empty same old, same old did not begin to console or help Tony Walters. He had been bloodied on the field of jihad warfare on his home soil almost twelve years ago. Some experiences are just too intense to forget and continue to claim victims.

49 comments:

  1. I think of all of the children who will as well have to live and deal with the terrible trauma both mentally and physically. I realize how precious it was for me to live my childhood in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

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    1. Bunkerville,
      Also, many of those not killed outright must have sustained life-changing injuries resulting in serious disabilities.

      And those at the Manchester Arena were so young!

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  2. The Sun is a widely-read newspaper in the UK, but I’m not sure it has so much to do with literary excellence as the amount of skin shown, beginning from page one. I do find it interesting that the Sun is the only news sheet carrying the story about Tony Walters. I have no doubt Walters was a troubled man, and certainly being wounded in the tube would be a good reason for this ... but it is entirely speculation whether he was driven over the edge by the Manchester murders.

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    1. Mustang,
      For the reasons you cited, I rarely use the Sun as a source.

      That said, even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.

      I note that a Google search of "Tony Walter Manchester" (without quotation marks) now yields many hits, most of which go back to the Sun.

      What we do know for a fact is that Tony Walter was a victim of the 7/7 bombings.

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    2. I guess it's not in other papers because they considered it more intrusive than newsworthy. It's very sad. No-one who commits suicide did it for just one reason, but I don't question that Manchester was a powerful trigger.

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    3. PS to Mustang: the media across The Pond have been encouraged not to publish anything "Islamophobic."

      And, then, there's this...

      UK: Police Helicopter Deployed, Karaoke Machine Confiscated, After Song Mocking Bin Laden Played at Party, Police Investigating Incident As "Racist".

      Apparently, the ordinance for decibel level doesn't kick in until 11:00 PM. Evidently, the police raid occurred around 10:00 PM.

      Anecdotal, of course.

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    4. Jez,
      No-one who commits suicide did it for just one reason, but I don't question that Manchester was a powerful trigger.

      Agreed.

      Those of us who have not been a survivor or an up-close witness or an EMT at a jihad bombing attack cannot possibly imagine how horrible the experience.

      Well, maybe the military who have been on the battlefield understand the sights and the smells. Nasty -- to say the least.

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    5. Jez,
      Addendum: I suspect that sleep deprivation and night terrors were factors, too.

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  3. Psychologists often say that depression is anger turned inwards. If that was the case with Tony (and I can't say) one only wish he turned it outwards. At the very least, join with people that we know in opposing the jihadi onslaught. I can attest that righteous anger is invigorating. But that's me.

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  4. Wanna know the difference between a Leftist and a foreign jihadi fighting for ISIS? Nothing!

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    1. That group is specifically opposed to ISIS.

      Looks like a large number of Kurdish women. Tough fighters.
      Probably some PKK.

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    2. That group is specifically opposed to ISIS.

      They weren't too complimentary of our NATO ally, Turkey.

      ...and you're thinking of the YPJ

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    3. ...and ANTIFA members LOVE to punch people wearing "Make America Great Again" hats.

      ...which go to their total lack of credibility.

      All this group needs is a modern day Hemingway to write a romantic book about the "grand experience" of "socialist solidarity".... and WWII will get it's button set on "REPEAT".

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    4. I can hardly WAIT for the ANTIFA contingent to get back to the US and begin training the Resistance.

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    5. I believe Ducky's right on this one, Farmer. These aren't jihadi; they're anti-jihadi Kurds and their foreign far left allies.

      The Kurds are secular anarcho-communist or, as their supporters like to put it "socialist libertarians." Their leader, Abdullah Öcalan, is a follower of communitarian-eco-anarchists like Murray Bookchin. They are old-style socialists that take a dim view of Islam in addition to capitalism. They're not your modern multi-cultural progressives that apologize for jihadi Islam.

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    6. Jason,
      Excellent information about the Kurds. This is one topic I've not researched much -- other than to attend an event at the public library.

      The library discussion was led by an author who spent a few years among the Kurds. He presented a cultural program that included next to nothing about politics. Other than the Kurds' desire to have their own nation.

      The discussion was well attended. Apparently, there is a large community of Kurdish exiles in Maryland.

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    7. I know of only one guy I served with that died “in uniform”.
      Walked the same street I walked in Turkey.
      Kurds shot him.
      We weren’t combat vets, but I think of him every Memorial Day.

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    8. DO NOT make thefatal mistake of ever trustng ANY Middle Easterners.

      DECEIT and TREACHERY are considered VIRTUOUS in their religion, and the general character of the entire region is imbued with perverse values and beliefs totally antithetical to OUR professed ideals.

      IF we ever hope to avoid annihilation of our very IDENTITY as Westerners with strong CHRISTIAN roots and cultural background,

      D-I-D-A-D-I-N is our ONLY hope.

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  5. @Jason,

    Neither a stronger ISIS OR stronger communist international is in America's interest. I wouldn't arm or supply either. I would simply pray they fight and kill each other in Syria, forever.

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    1. And make sure they REMAIN in SYRIA and the other dark desert lands native to their barbaric ilk.

      DIDADIN!

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  6. When 7th Century throwbacks can't stand life in the west, they impregnate their shrouded breeder cows as many times as possible and then they kill as many people as they can on their way out.

    When modern western men can't take it anymore, they commit suicide.

    Guess who's winning?

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    1. I think Abedi was typical of a suicide bomber in that he was single and childless. But European countries tend to have a higher suicide rate than Islamic ones -- could be due to more of us living in cities, which is where most suicides occur.

      "Guess who's winning?"
      It's us, isn't it? By what measure is ISIS winning?

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    2. Jez,
      By what measure is ISIS winning?

      Is that a serious question? Surely not!

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    3. Jez,
      European countries tend to have a higher suicide rate than Islamic ones -- could be due to more of us living in cities, which is where most suicides occur.

      Um, there's more to it than that. Islam strongly condemns suicide (other than in holy warfare, of course).

      European countries are mostly secular now, and most Europeans no longer believe they will be condemned to hell if they commit suicide. Moreover, those who have committed suicide can now be buried in consecrated ground.

      I remember a time when the burials of those who committed suicide -- or might have committed suicide -- were not allowed in consecrated ground. Now we have more cremations and many commercial cemeteries (as opposed to church cemeteries). In addition, autopsy reports take a long time now and typically are not completed until after funeral rites.

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    4. Jez,

      We are losing. We've blown trillions and lost thousands of lives in Afghanistan for nothing. They hate us.

      We wrecked Iraq, Libya and Yemen, changing it all there for the worst.

      Meanwhile, we have less freedom than we did pre-9/11 and our western societies self-censor and make adjustments to newcomers from dissimilar cultures rather than ask them to assimilate.

      All over the west, rabid hate preachers exhort the faithful to fight the infidels, calling for death and dismemberment to the Queen, Presidents, prime ministers and ordinary citizens.

      Our birthrates have fallen below replacement rate, while Muslim births burgeon.

      Christianity--and christian principles that underpin society--is dying, while Islam is increasing.

      Muslims are winning--Western Christendom is losing.

      Anyone who has lived in both the Christian World and the Muslim world would be crazy to see this as a positive trend for humanity.

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    5. SF,
      1,000 upvotes!

      And that you for responding to Jez. I didn't have time today: I had a medical procedure, a different medical procedure, to try to address the source of this pain that I've been enduring since November 2015.

      Feeling a bit loopy right now. The anesthesia and all that.

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    6. SF,
      Anyone who has lived in both the Christian World and the Muslim world would be crazy to see this as a positive trend for humanity.

      Important point and one which cannot be repeated often enough.

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    7. By their fruits you shall know them...

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    8. I don't disagree with any of your factual points. Certainly, our interventions have been counter-productive. We've wrought a lot of damage, left a lot of vacuums, and earned a lot of resentment. I don't know what we would have done differently had it been our explicit aim to feed isis etc.

      But I don't interpret all that as loosing. We are still vastly richer, happier and free-er than they, and if you want to "speak like a soldier" about it (scare quotes, because eg. Kurt really was a soldier, and he doesn't talk like that), we kill more of them.
      I'm relaxed about low birthrates. There's no shortage of humans, how many billions of us do we need?

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  7. If he did take his own life, then piss on him. He should have seen how many moslem vermin he could kill before being stopped instead.

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    1. Kid, by making that statement you relinquish all moral high ground.
      You can go piss on your own dead.

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    2. Jez,
      Kid spoke like a soldier. We are in a war, you know. Give the war any name you like, it is a war.

      I myself wouldn't give these Islamomaniacs the satisfaction of driving me to suicide with myself as the only dead body.

      And please don't lecture me about suicide and PTSD. In an extended family as large as mine, I know more about those two matters than I wish I knew.

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  8. Sheesh.

    From Manchester suicide bomber used student loan and benefits to fund terror plot (the Telegraph, dated May 27, 2017):

    ...Salman Abedi is understood to have received thousands of pounds in state funding in the run up to Monday’s atrocity even while he was overseas receiving bomb-making training.

    Police are investigating Abedi’s finances, including how he paid for frequent trips to Libya where he is thought to have been taught to make bombs at a jihadist training camp.

    [...]

    Abedi was given at least £7,000 from the taxpayer-funded Student Loans Company after beginning a business administration degree at Salford University in October 2015.

    It is thought he received a further £7,000 in the 2016 academic year even though by then he had already dropped out of the course. Salford University declined to say if it had informed the Student Loans Company that Abedi’s funding should have been stopped.

    Separately, the Department for Work and Pensions refused to say if Abedi had received any benefits, including housing benefit and income support worth up to £250 a week, during 2015 and 2016. It would only say he was not claiming benefits in the weeks before the attack.

    Abedi, 22, never held down a job, according to neighbours and friends, but was able to travel regularly between the UK and Libya.

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    Professor Anthony Glees, director of Buckingham University’s Centre for Security and Intelligence Studies, said: “The British system makes funds readily available to jihadist students without checks on them. There needs to be an inquiry into this.”

    The Government has previously admitted it has no idea how many terrorists could be using taxpayer funded benefits and student loans to finance their activities....


    More HERE.

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    1. It's either DIDADIN or DEATH.

      If we choose SUICIDE on some mistaken understanding of what is and is not strictly MORAL, then we DESERVE to DIE.

      "The U.S. Constitution is NOT a SUICIDE PACT."

      We don't have to KILL them, we just have to ISOLATE them in the hellholes which bred them, SHUN them, refuse to TRADE with them, and give them NO VOICE whatsoever in how WE should run OUR affairs, and NO "AID" in implementing THEIR depraved, hellish agenda.

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    2. The British Government has announced is will start teaching bombmaking to its growing jihadi population so as to cut out the middle man and perhaps recoup some government assistance money.

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  9. So sad that instead of fighting back against the importation of more muslims, he gave up. More's the pity. Wake up England. You are committing suicide as a nation with your unfettered muslim immigration. And the lack of police action to counter its effects. I wonder if the Western world can survive the latest muslim onslaught..............

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    1. Bart,
      I wonder if the Western world can survive the latest muslim onslaught...............

      Most days, I'm not very hopeful.

      I'm glad that I'm as old as I am -- and childless.

      But I have a dear, dear four-year-old cousin who is the light of my life. I worry about her!

      And over the years, I've taught hundreds of students. I worry about them, too.

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  10. Silverfiddle. Good GOD, there it is right there. Such a dysfunctional response to 9-11 I cannot conjure up.

    If I had done anything and one would have to do Something as POTUS, I'd have nuked mecca and the other islam holy place (medina?). Then I'd have put them on notice. Any more terrorist attacks on a civilized country? You lose another islamic city or even country.

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    1. Kid,
      It will take such steps to calm down the Islamomaniacs. Diplomacy has been a consummate failure.

      We need to drop an Iron Veil. But the courts won't allow that. **UGH!**

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    2. It is the one and only thing that would get their attention. That thing is the bona fide threat of TOTAL EXTERMINATION. Anything less doesn't even get a yawn from them.

      It's how it is.

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    3. PS - Diplooooomacy with barbarians. Geeezus..

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    4. Kid,
      The threat of TOTAL EXTERMINATION will not phase the true believers, those who are convinced about those virgins in Paradise. But the threat will indeed phase the nominal moslems, of which there are many more. I hope.

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    5. AOW, I SO hate to disagree with you but I do believe that the threat of TOTAL EXERMINATION is the only thing that might have an effect on them. The rest can be handled by a moslem open hunting season.

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    6. AOW, Imagine, the threat of total extermination does not have an effect on them - that may be right - That only reinforces my point. What moe could you do to a group of vermin?

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  11. Jez, Can't find your comment about high ground. You must havebeen censored since posting. So, I'm not interested in high ground when it come to moslem vermin. I'm only interestd in them 6 feet below ground. Dig? PS - FO and take your libtards with you. Clear enough?

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