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Monday, July 28, 2014

CAIR AND ISNA In Miami: "We are Hamas!"


From the mouth of the enemy on Sunday, July 20, 2014:


What they screamed (commentary on the chant in red):
“The martyr is God’s love.” This encourages one to die while committing Jihad — it is a celebration of terror attacks including suicide bombings.

“Khaybar, Khaybar Oh, Jew. Muhammad’s army will return.” This refers to a seventh-century massacre in which Muhammad’s army attacked the Jewish community of Khaybar in the Arabian Peninsula. The Jewish males who surrendered were beheaded; Muhammad and his soldiers then divided the women, children, and property. Islamists today routinely invoke this battle as a rallying cry to attack Jews.

“We are Hamas!” openly confirming support for a group officially designated a terrorist organization by the United States, the European Union, Japan, Jordan, and Egypt.

“We are Jihad!” thereby calling for holy war.

“Hamas kicked your ass.” That makes for an interesting contradiction: While claiming Gazans are being massacred, the group also claims to have defeated the Israel Defense Forces. Which is it?
Why are CAIR and ISNA even allowed to be here on our home soil? Both organizations are sworn to our destruction.

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    "Why are CAIR and ISNA even allowed to be here on our home soil?"


    Same reasons KKK and NRA are allowed to be in USA. USA is a free country with liberty for _all_.


    Ema Nymton
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    1. The KKK and the NRA do not operate with impunity, but CAIR and ISNA often do.

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    2. So Emma, then why aren't CAIR and ISNA on Southern Poverty's watch list?

      leftwing hypocrites...

      Good dhimmis get eaten last...

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    3. Not very bright, are you no name.

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    4. Warren! It's been a while since I've seen you comment here. Thanks for joining in, my dear friend.

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    5. Since the NRA is a law-abiding organization that promotes peaceful and legal activities both among its members and for all of society, I'm mystified why you would compare it with an outlaw hate group like the KKK and Hamas.

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  2. "Why are CAIR and ISNA even allowed to be here on our home soil? Both organizations are sworn to our destruction."

    The Short Answer: Because WE are STUPID. ;-)

    A more complex answer might include this: While the "official" scriptural posture of Islam is one of HATRED towards and either CONVERSION or ANNIHILATION of "The Infidel," which includes EVERYONE outside the faith, Arab Muslims hate JEWS more than anyone else, and therefore, now reserve a SPECIAL hatred for Britain and the United States, because "we" in defeating the Axis Powers. then founding the United Nations facilitated the forced, artificial implantation of the modern Jewish State in the predominantly Arab-Muslim region formerly referred to as Palestine.

    No one but an imbecile could deny that the Jews have made more of that tiny fragment of desert in 66 years than the Arabs did in several thousand, BUT the fact remains that "WE" really were instrumental in FOISTING the Jewish State on a people who regard this as SUCH an atrocity, SUCH an insult, SUCH a slap-in-the-face, SUCH a kick-in-the-shns -- to THEM -- that they are, as we have seen to our horror and deep sorrow, willing to commit SUICIDE in order to make the Jews feel supremely unwelcome and forever unacceptable.

    Now, "WE" may view this as 'stupid," self-defeating" and "barbaric," BUT the fact remains that it has been WESTERN INTERFERENCE in the internal affairs of Other People that has brought this particular brand of endless hostility into the world and saddled "US" with it,

    I believe, by the way, that the reason those-we-call- "Arabs" today have reserved a special, intensely-focused hatred towards the Jews above all other "infidels" most probably may be found n The Pentateuch. How many "good Christians have REALLY familiarized themselves with the out-and-out ethnic, racial and religiously based VICIOUSNESS chronicled in the Hebrew Scriptures CELEBRATING with reckless abandon and self-righteous glee the DESTRUCTION and PLUNDER of so many tribes BY the Jews of those who committed the unpardinable offense of NOT being JEWISH?

    That "WE CHRISTIANS," have been conditioned to accept this as right and good, because "it is written" and found its way into "OUR" Bible is frankly preposterous as well morally and intellectually indefensible. [Go ahead and call me a "heretic" if you want. I don't care. The OT in gutter English "stinks on ice." And though saying so surely would have gotten me Burnt at The Stake in former times, I am secure in the knowledge of what is right and what is clearly wrong. I REJECT Christian Fundamentalism as fiercely as I reject Marxism in all its hideous permutations and the barbarism inherent in Sharia Law.]

    Back to why we allow demonstrations such as the revolting spectacle preserved for Posterity in the video.

    Our Founders being brilliantly intelligent, eminently civilized men either of English birth or extraction made one tragic error. In asserting that "All Men Are Created Equal," they ether forgot or honestly didn't know that the Enlightened Views they espoused were NOT part of any known Civilization outside the realms pf Britain and much-if-not-all of Europe, and were in fact quite rare even among most in those more advanced places.

    In other words I hink the Founders credited "everyone" with the capacity to understand, accept and appreciate their superior wisdom on contact. Too obviously any such thoughts have probed entirely fallacious. Proceeding on dreams and wishful thinking never fails to bring tragic results.

    The ONE thing we CANNOT afford to TOLERATE is INTOLERANCE, itself.

    That, of course, means we must live within the confines of a most confounding paradox.


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      Nuanced articulation of a complex subject ... impressive. One does not usually read such expressions here at Always On Watch. Usually it is bumper-sticker name calling.

      May not agree with all you have said, but like the way FreeThinke said it today.

      Ema Nymton
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    2. FT,
      That's one way to look at the matter, but certainly not the only way. I do not wholly agree with your comment.

      I'd explain more, but I'm off to work I go for the day. Gotta pay the bills!

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    3. Thank you, Ema. I do try to do exactly what you kindly attributed to my statement, though many times I too must plead guilty to publishing wicked satire and political pornography. ;-). I have earned the dubious distinction of being unpopular in both camps. Right and Left usually find me irritating, confounding, outrageous or downright traitorous.

      Given the way the incessant barrage of insults and mindless jingoistic taunting from BOTH sides whizzes past most ears and lands dead in the fields and forests behind the combatants, playing the unwelcome role of agent provocateur may help break the deadlock, and help return to taking WITH instead of AT one another. At least that is my hope.

      I do believe that once we look behind or beneath the surface most present to the world, nine times out of ten we will find a fellow human being not all that much unlike ourselves.

      Most decent people want virtually the same things. The trouble comes from a deep disagreement as to how those desirable goals may be best be realistically achieved .

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    4. FT, I disagree with your theory about the obsessive hatred of Muslims against Jews.

      1. Islam doesn't appear on the scene until some 600 years after the Resurrection.

      2. Muhammad tried to proselytise the Jews during his initial "peaceful" beginning but was rejected. (probably ridiculed harshly)

      3. The Muslims claim that they are the true inheritors of Abraham and that the Jews are the children of his bastard son (That the Jews re-wrote the "Book" usurping their rightful inheritance.)

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    5. Also, it is specifically stated in the Quran that Muslims have the duty to hate Jews. Indeed, that animosity extends to all non-Muslims. Please see this material.

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    6. Hello, Warren -- and AOW too --, I'm exactly not sure which part of my multi-facted statement you object to, but I very deliberately said that the ARABS, who most probably are the descendants of the Canaanites, the Midianites and all those other ancient tribes the Jews claim with self-righteous pride to have destroyed, plundered or enslaved have had plenty of reason to harbor enmity towards the Jews long before Islam came along, IF even half the evens chronicled in the OT are even partially true.

      Anyway you slice it, the entire region has been saturated with Bad Blood for many thousands of years. I openly despise Semites with good reason, I think, but I would never lift a finger either to hurt them OR to help them.

      I have become not a "dove" but an anti-Interventionist, and feel we've made a long series of tragically stupid errors in waging deliberately "limited" No-Win Wars since victory was declared over the Axis Powers.

      I consider myself a serious Christian, but I am anything but orthodox. I am sorry if intemperate remarks about the OT have stepped on anyone's toes, but after having studied the Bible in considerable depth for over sixty years off an on, I cannot help but feel most of the OT is as barbaric and inhumane as the worst parts of the Koran. It is for the most part a horror story. Besides, I'm not all sure it is a true history. There doesn't seem to be much archaeological evidence to support the ancient Jews' highly inflated views of their own significance and military prowess.

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    7. FT,
      Arab Muslims hate JEWS more than anyone else, and therefore, now reserve a SPECIAL hatred for Britain and the United States, because "we" in defeating the Axis Powers. then founding the United Nations facilitated the forced, artificial implantation of the modern Jewish State in the predominantly Arab-Muslim region formerly referred to as Palestine.

      (1) It may be a kind of SPECIAL hatred, but the hatred would have been there anyway in many Muslims' hearts because of Islam's hatred of and constant war with "the other" (non-Muslim).

      (2) However the modern nation of Israel was established, it has now been a nation for over 60 years.

      (3) I find it likely that at least some Muslims (and other Jew haters) would have pursued and persecuted the Jews wherever they were living even if there were no nation of Israel.

      I openly despise Semites with good reason, I think

      I try very hard not despise any particular group as a whole. I do, however, despise particular ideologies.

      As you know, FT, I don't have the same problems with the OT as you.

      You mentioned the Canaanites, the Midianites and all those other ancient tribes. Technically, I think, the only true Arabs are those descended from Ishmael. That said, many tribes that designate themselves as Arab probably are not Ishmael DNA or are a mix of Ishmael DNA and the tribes you mentioned.

      tribes the Jews claim with self-righteous pride to have destroyed, plundered or enslaved

      According to the OT, many of the Canaan tribes were not destroyed.

      Are you familiar with any of the archaeological evidence as to the horrific practices of those tribes?

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    8. FT,
      I cannot help but feel most of the OT is as barbaric and inhumane as the worst parts of the Koran. It is for the most part a horror story.

      Once again, my view is different.

      Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. -- Matthews 5:17-18

      It seems to me that with those words Jesus validated the Old Testament.

      Now, why would God have asked the Israelites to destroy all the Canaanites -- every man, woman or child (unless individuals from those tribes converted to the faith of Abraham)? My answer: God didn't want the Israelites to take up the evil practices of the Canaanites. Peer pressure has incredible power.

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    9. FT,
      I would never lift a finger either to hurt them OR to help them.

      Suppose every Jew wouldn't lift a finger to help you?

      I'm not scolding, just asking.

      In my own case, I don't know what I'd do without my OB/GYN, who is Jewish. The finest doctor I've ever known!

      And several of my Jewish friends have been a wonderful help to Mr. AOW and me -- while many of my Christian friends sat on the sidelines.

      Again, I try to deal with individuals instead of groups of people when I make "evaluations."

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    10. FT. Interestingly enough, a big push behind Zionism and a Zionist state came from Orientalist Zionists who saw the establishment of such a state not as a colonial project, but an event to signal the rebirth of Asianism (an admixture of Islam, Judaism and other eastern mystics) and an end to colonialism. I think this is a naive view and don't hold it. But the point is, MANY behind the coming Jewish state did.

      I am sorry you do not see the compassion and grace of God on display so vividly throughout the OT. Those tribes the Jews 'plundered' in their return to the land were people God gave 400 years to repent! Plus an extra 40 for good measure - letting the word get out as Israel spent 40 years on the way. We have the lovely story of one pagan Gentile who DID get the message, repented, was spared and occupies an honored place in the line of Messiah. I can't imagine she was the only one. And it made a dent in the vicious practices of those tribes in hideous child sacrifice rituals. Their sins abounded, and 'not being Jewish' was NOT one of them. Turning their back on their God and creator, and substituting worship for the creature instead was one of them.

      Not especially a fan of how Israel came to be created as a modern state. But it can only be criticized in the same breath as Pakistan becoming a state at all. I take no one seriously who complains that Israel is a nation today, until they march around screaming about what Pakistan did to India.

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    11. Baysider,
      Excellent point about Pakistan!

      Thank you for also reminding us of the 400 years allowed for repentance -- and for reminding us of one pagan Gentile who DID get the message, repented, was spared and occupies an honored place in the line of Messiah.

      You were also correct when you stated the following: Their sins abounded, and 'not being Jewish' was NOT one of them.

      There are many valuable spiritual lessons found in the OT -- not the least of which is that the Lord loved the Israelites even when they didn't love and obey Him. The Lord looks on a contrite heart -- and forgives the sinner.

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    12. All of you are right, IF one accepts the OT as the inerrant, immutable, eternal Word of God.

      I'm sorry, but I have been either blest or cursed -- depending on your point of view -- with the burden of looking at things from a logical standpoint, and simply cannot accept what has been handed down as anything but what ti appears to be on the surface -- man made mythology generated by ancient tribal elders to boost morale and to keep the ignorant, illiterate, fractious members of their "stiff-necked" tribe in line.

      That does not mean I have no respect for the veins of universal Truth running through the various books like thin strands of gold and silver embedded in the dark, dense confines of mountains of rock, silt and hundreds of thousands of years worth of detritus and debris.

      God is Truth. God is Love. God is Principle. God is Mind. God is Soul. God is Spirit. God is Life, itself.

      There is nothing either petty, cruel or spiteful about His true nature.

      I have faith not because i fear, but because it makes good sense and has much practical value to cultivate belief in a God whose nature combines the metaphysical attributes listed above in equal measure.

      Belief in Christ Jesus may fulfill the Law, but only because it replaces slavish obedience to thousands of vituperative, maddeningly petty rules and regulations with the commandment that we love one another.

      The worst failing of so-called human nature -- which would better be called Mortal Mind -- is the universal penchant we have of wanting to make basic, very simple truths appear so convoluted and maddeningly complex, we can pretend not to understand what they mean, and therefore go right on with "business as usual." Scholars and "Intellectuals" are particularly good at this. For them more often than not it serves as a means of self aggrandizement. ;-)

      "... and we are here as on a darkling plane,
      Swept by confused alarums of struggle and flight
      Where ignorant armies clash by night."


      ~ Matthew Arnold (Dover Beach)

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    13. FT, I suspect we intersect in several places, like belief in Jesus fulfilling the law. May I encourage you to widen your perspective on "thousands of vituperative, maddeningly petty rules" which were IMPOSSIBLE to keep even if your heart were right? And if your heart were wrong, perfect law keeping did not help. Abraham believed God and his faith was counted to him for righteousness. And shame on Israel in the first place for having the small-minded hubris to THINK they could keep all the rules. "Oh yes, bring it on God! We can do it!"

      The rules themselves should have expanded their view of God and view of man's sinful state beyond this chest thumping. I think that is the point.

      The only page I'd remove from the Bible (leaving aside scholarly disagreement over passages like the last chpt. in Mark) is the blank page that divides the old and new testaments. The whole book is an integrated message system. Remove a chapter, even remove a book and the message - with its specifics - still holds together. Much is concealed in the old that is revealed and explained in the new (even though it may not be as MUCH as we'd like explained! :-) ).

      I agree with you on the worst failing of human nature to want "to make basic, very simple truths appear so convoluted and maddeningly complex." It's like the lawyers who write laws. If you made it hard then YOU must be hired to interpret them. I think there are 'deep truths' but not terribly complex ones which scholars have made harder by genuine disagreement and by a human need to be the expert with the answers. Especially since it's not written from a modern western perspective.

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    14. FT,
      God is Truth. God is Love. God is Principle. God is Mind. God is Soul. God is Spirit. God is Life, itself.

      There is nothing either petty, cruel or spiteful about His true nature.


      God is also a just God -- slow to anger but judgmental when contrition, humility, and repentance are absent in his creatures "created a little lower than the angels."

      Belief in Christ Jesus may fulfill the Law, but only because it replaces slavish obedience to thousands of vituperative, maddeningly petty rules and regulations with the commandment that we love one another.

      All those rules and regulations served two specific purposes, IMO: (1) to set God's people as separate from those who do not acknowledge or worship Him and (2) to show mankind their need for a Savior. It is impossible to fulfill God's requirements for obedience and repudiation of our multitudinous sins, from which we are never truly free in this life. According to God's justice system, sin requires atonement so as to enter His eternal kingdom.

      We have been freed from the law in a spiritual sense, but certainly it is to our benefit -- both physical and spiritual -- to follow so many of those rules and regulations. However, merely keeping those rules and regulations to the best of our ability does not bring eternal salvation. Because we can never keep ALL obey ALL the rules and, therefore, need a Savior.

      I have faith not because i fear, but because it makes good sense and has much practical value to cultivate belief in a God whose nature combines the metaphysical attributes listed above in equal measure.

      To a certain extent, we should fear God because He is just, but serving the Lord requires much more than

      Belief in Christ Jesus may fulfill the Law, but only because it replaces slavish obedience to thousands of vituperative, maddeningly petty rules and regulations with the commandment that we love one another.

      I see belief in Jesus Christ as acknowledging our absolute need for a Savior.

      Furthermore, if we look at the Ten Commandments, those commandments can be divided into two parts: (1) our personal relationship with the Lord according to His terms because He is sovereign and (2) our interpersonal relations.

      The outcome of faith is obedience to God's will. Hence, all those rules and regulations in the OT because human beings are so capable of excusing their own behaviors and attitudes. Mankind is always wanting to do "what is right in his own eyes."

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    15. Furthermore, until the advent of the Greeks, abstract thinking was minimal. So, before the time of the Greeks, man had to rely so much on rules and regulations instead of on soul and spiritual. The world wasn't ready for Christianity until the Greeks had left their mark.

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    16. Baysider,
      Agreed on all points! Thank you for that excellent comment.

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    17. Baysider,
      I don't know that I said it better, but I think you for the compliment.

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    18. I have done a lot of study of theology (Judaism and Christian). I don't often engage in theological discussions in the blogosphere, but I don't run from such discussions, either.

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    "... but CAIR and ISNA often do."

    BS!

    CAIR and ISNA are the most spied-on organizations in USA. Every action of CAIR and ISNA is monitored and scrutinized.



    Ema Nymton
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    1. Ema,
      You don't know that unless you have access to top secret documents.

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    2. Monitored or not, Ms Nymton, isn't the question we should be asking, "Why are they not PROSCRIBED?" After all, thanks to political activism and the recent institution of anti-Hate Speech and Hate Crime Legislation, the activities of the KKK, and other White Supremacist, openly anti-Catholic, xenophobic, anti-Semitic groups have been all-but curtailed, despite the (rather surprising) support they've received from the ACLU, who deserves applause for sticking to its principles. These tactics have worked brilliantly, because -- and here please let me paraphrase a famous maxim -- The Power to SUE is the Power to Destroy.

      By the same logic, don't you think we should be able to bring the machinations of Islamists working against us within our own borders to a virtual halt?

      IF not, WHY not?

      It never fails to amuse me -- albeit wryly -- that SOME organized forms of hatred and sedition are deemed "fashionable" even "worthy," while others have been rendered absolutely taboo -- even "criminal."

      Personally, I never have been able to see any appreciable difference between Christians v. Lions in the Coliseum, Theocratic Tyranny and The Crusades, the depredations of the Spanish Conquistadores, Montezuma's treatment of his own people, the Reign of Terror following the French Revolution, Andrew Jackson's treatment of the Cherokee, that terrible business at Wounded Knee, Hitler's Third Reich, and the ghastly deeds of Communist Revolutionaries in Russia, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and Cuba among other places.

      Oppression is Oppression is Oppression to borrow a wee bit from Gertrude Stein.

      The obvious conclusion we must draw is that, despite all our wonderful, astonishingly brilliant and beautiful accomplishments, human beings have an ingrained tendency to keep finding pretexts for being perfectly horrible to one another.

      I still think a proper understanding and application of Christ's Word would solve that, but as another old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink." ;-)

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  4. A Question Please.

    In your post below, You list the following:
    Labels: barbarism, foreign policy, immigration, leftist loons, Michelle Obama, Muslims in the United States, nincompoopery, politics, poll, technology, the food police, The Nanny State, the Obama administration.

    Was this "leftist loons, Michelle Obama," meant to be, or is, was it a Coincidence?
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    1. I used the label "leftist loons" to refer to Elizabeth Warren. By default, Blogger automatically alphabetizes the list of labels.

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  5. Haven't we learned anything from the tragedy of 9/11. After 13 years off violence and terror from Islam, are we that Naive and stupid?

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  6. ... Every action of CAIR and ISNA is monitored and scrutinized.

    AOW is correct Ema. Do you have access to top secret documents?

    Knowing what is going on in the shadows of these nefarious organizations is likely a very good thing however.

    I understand the Islamists and those with Jihadist sympathies would not agree.

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  7. This is what we get for inviting in people from religious traditions and cultures that are incompatible with our own rich and diverse cultural stew.

    People will say it was the same with the Irish, Germans, Italians back in the old days and yeah, in one way it is.

    But it's also different. Back then, the worst that happened was maybe some Italian kids chasing Jewish kids down the street and calling them Christ killers, or nativists calling the Irish hairy apes or whatever, but it all blended in after a few generations.

    Look at our own southwest. There are millions of people with Spanish last names who are completely assimilated.

    I'm looking for evidence to have the same optimism for newer immigrants.

    I won't broadbrush all Muslims because of a few islamonuts. I've known too many, but I will say we should not be importing more of these people, given our government's complete incompetence in sorting out the good from the bad.

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  8. I’m guessing that Obama wants to do for Israel what he has done to Libya, Ukraine, and Syria, create more chaos and civil war!

    Israel needs to take care of business this time. and it’s high time that they did, until now. Israel never had peace, only the illusion of peace, because these terrorists only know one thing and Peace is NOT part of it. Israel has stated clearly its acceptance of a 2-state solution: Israel and Palestine alongside each other. But, Hamas is the one that won't live alongside a state of Israel. Hamas will not stop their terror while Israel exists, therefor Israel needs to do what has to be done.

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  9. Is this a harbinger for much bigger things to come? Since these, so called, people refuse to assimilate, I won't be a bit surprised. Oh wait, bigger things have already happened, haven't they. Thank God for the NRA!

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  10. One can debate the truth of "All men are created equal.". But, how can there be a debate that all cultures are equal? The Mulsim culture(s) are not compatable with any non-Muslim cullture. Even the Sunnii and Shia are not compatable with each other.

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  11. Rational Nation USA Said"

    "AOW is correct Ema. Do you have access to top secret documents?"

    But then again AOW is always correct as Ema is always wrong!
    These rabid animals aka Hamas, or those Islamic Palestinians aka the religion of peace don’t want peace. Israel is right they should not have to live under the threat of rockets and bombs day after day. . No nation should live under the those conditions!
    When will Ema learn that drinking too much kool-aid isn't good for you? Just ask the Moocher.

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    1. I'm not always correct. But I do try to be accurate.

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    1. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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    2. Off topic comments are typically removed when an administrator becomes aware of such comments.

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    3. There was nothing "of topic" AOW, and you know it.

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    4. RN,
      Excuse me, but you responded to an off topic comment. Therefore, your comment wouldn't have made sense with the original off-topic comment having been removed.

      Furthermore, this is my blog -- not yours. I don't have to justify myself to you.

      I'm extending the courtesy of responding right now, but don't push your luck.

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    5. Thanks for the courtesy of your reply AOW.

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  13. On last nights news, they led off with a story about over 1160 Pallies being killed in these attacks by Israel...

    I guess that qualifies as *a good start*!

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    1. Did you by any chance catch the Rose interview with the leader of the terrorist Hamas? He clearly, and without hesitation stated Hamas, and presumably the palestinians he represents, do NOT and to coexist with the State of Israel.

      I'll leave it to you to ascertain the meaning of that statement. But I will leave a hint... GENOCIDE.

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    2. Correction, terrorist organization...

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    3. Cosmo Politano-Welteinwohner de Trop said

      Stephanie, mein liebchen, du bist eine Scheisskopf. oder als sagt die Franzoesichen Leute, "Cherie, tu est plein de merde."

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  14. How is it that conversation always seems to turn into an Obama family bash fest. Michelle (aka "the Moocher" in some circles) has little to do with Islamic extremism.

    FreeThinke's points are for the most part spot on with respect to the west bearing some responsibility for the monster that is the present day "Islamic Cult "religion."

    Islam, created by the barbarous militarist Mohammed who raped, plundered, and pillaged has never moved much beyond it's barbaric beginnings. On the other hand Judaism and Christianity has left their sometimes sordid past behind them, and have become more benevolent and respectful religions.

    FreeThinke, we have corresponded a bit on the concept of spirituality -vs- organized religion so I'm confident you understand my statement that Judaism and Christianity (in the context of organized religion as it developed) have become more benevolent. I've never been a big supporter of organized religion even in the days when I "believed."

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    1. RN,
      How is it that conversation always seems to turn into an Obama family bash fest.

      Because some commenters vent -- no matter what the topic of the blog post is.

      I'm getting ready to remove some of the off topic comments.

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    2. Addendum: When off topic comments are removed, responses to those comments may also be removed.

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    3. RN, can you give a sample of the texts you've used to study the history of Islam? My guess is none but you may surprise me.

      What the right doesn't seem to understand is that when people become desperate they very often also become radical and we are seeing that play out.

      But cheer up. Nuttyyahoo may kill enough Palestininian children to ensure the supply of radicals never diminishes.
      That's the deal here. Will he finesse the west into alloiwing him to wipe out the Palestinians.
      Remember, that part of the world has a long freaking memory.

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    4. Duck,
      What the right doesn't seem to understand is that when people become desperate they very often also become radical and we are seeing that play out.

      Au contraire, this Right winger (That would be I) does understand that full well.

      But in this latest round between Israel and the Pseudostinians, it is the Pseudostinians who has been firing the salvos. Furthermore, Israel hasn't been persecuting the Pseudostinians. It's also true that Israel has a population of Muslims/Arabs within her borders -- about 21%.

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    5. Erratum: has been firing should read have been firing.

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    6. Duckman... the Koran itself, as written. Unvarnished by leftist BS.

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  15. Here's the deal, like it or not and believe me it sucks, but here is the truth without any of the candy coating.


    The world, at some point, is going to have to wipe these Muslim animals off the face of the earth. Like it or not, but that’s the truth. they will never quit, so it’s going to have to be them or us!. You fight (and win) a war in one fashion and one fashion ONLY (and it especially applies to these radical extremists) and that is by KILLING the enemy and destroying their will to fight.

    If it means obliterating a large portion of the Muslim world to achieve peace then for heavens sake, lets do it. If this attitude is NOT adopted - our great grandchildren will one day all be Muslim. They will have no choice or freedom in the matter. And, they will have US (their grandparents) and our Dear Leader to thank for it. And thats the truth.

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  16. i get the jist of your comment, well okay, it is quite clear your feelings.

    You just may be right Stephanie with respect to the ultimate and logical end to doing nothing to stop the onslaught of extremism in the Middle East.

    What is glaringly clear, or at least it should be, is that this problem was created a very long time ago by a militarist and barbaric Mohammed who originated the Cult of Islam.

    President Obama is but a modern bit player in a very large game of dominance started and precipitated long ago by several forces. See FreeThinke's comments above.

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  17. Doesn't look like much of a rally.

    The cops were breaking up fist fights at the Boston Public Library last week.

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  18. Stephanie,

    " If it means obliterating a large portion of the Muslim world to achieve peace then for heavens sake, lets do it."

    While that's, indeed, a very tall order; what choice do we have? So why do we and Europe still keep placating them? In the mean time we must take a more realistic approach to energy self-sufficiency. Europe may have no choice but to succumb to energy blackmail. We, on the other hand, do have a choice. The Fantasy Land mentality of Obama and his band of gullible minions must go! Our survival more and more will depend upon our ability to grasp reality.

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  19. No Trojan horse required apparently.

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  20. Gad, I saw your post and couldn't resist taking a peek at what your liberals would say. I'm never disappointed.
    Too many comments to respond to, but I'm glad mostly cooler heads have at least talked some truth! \
    The saddest part, however, is I doubt WE will obliterate THEM. Led by WHOM? Obama? Good luck with that.
    Where, oh where, are the muslims who don't agree with their monsters within? I'm waiting...

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  21. As the world continues to suffer with the onslaught of jihadi wars and Islamic supremacist revolutions the world over, with aircraft being shot down by Russian Missals, with Obama making all these stupid speeches at Fund-raises, with “Kids” Illegally entering the Country, and the list goes on with Scandals, Misdeeds, and Blunders, and God only know what else. Obama chooses to subtly sanction supremacism and savagery with a Presidential visit to a victory mosque to honor Islam by visiting triumphal mosque built on site of church in Malaysia.
    Will Obama address the oppression of Christian in Malaysia? Will Obama address the persecution of Christians ... This shows Obama’s unquestioning support for and encouragement of Islam’s jihad and sharia! Obama has greatly cut back on US defense funding for the and American military. Yet the next year after that church lecture series Obama send Hamas in Gaza 23 millions in funds. What's more Hamas had a history of murdering Americans and maiming even more Barack Obama will be praising one of Islam’s most iconic landmarks.
    Islam does not deserve a good will gesture from a U.S. president, they attacked us with a preeminent act of war, and they continue their policy of terror and human rights
    abuse around the world. Nor do they deserve our forgiveness or appeasement!
    I wonder how many Christian churches, or Synagogues he’ll will be visiting this year, or next year!! Don't hold your breath. There should have never, ever, been any so-called peace talks, with people that want Israel pushed into the ocean.
    These are the kind of things that drive me nuts. But, I’m sure President Obama stays up thinking how much can I hate Stephanie today

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  22. Where ARE all those Palestinians, the proclaimed one million of them who lived in Israel before they were ‘displaced’? Nowhere.

    Nowhere, because they never existed.

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  24. "But, I’m sure President Obama stays up thinking how much can I hate Stephanie today"

    That is FUNNY

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  25. Just a few things to ponder on a Tuesday morning in the land of blogisphere..

    In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.
    ¦in 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the Battle of Lepanto.
    ...in 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies.
    ...this crap has been going on for 1,400 years and half of these damn politicians don't even know it !!! If these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non - existent;
    Judaism certainly would be... And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "subhumans".
    Reflecting A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
    Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!! Do you remember?

    1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
    2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
    3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.
    4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
    5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
    6. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
    7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
    8. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
    9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
    10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
    11. In 1993 , the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
    12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
    13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
    14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
    15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it was a--- Muslim male.
    16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4
    Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.
    No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
    So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.
    Absolutely No Profiling! They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males, alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
    Have the American people completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason???
    Let's send this to as many Stupid people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
    As 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.

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  28. It will soon be over. Well I suppose that depends on whether the retread party once again snatched defeat from the jaws or victory.

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      It seems that the midterms are turning out to be an interesting election cycle.

      In the blogosphere, all the trolls are out and about more than usual in a election year.

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  29. Notice how few lefties will ever criticize Hamas for using schools, hospitals and mosques to hide and launch their rockets or use tunnels for attacks, not shelter? As long as the useful idiots of the left continue to look the other way and treat Hamas as some sort of victim the killing will continue.

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      The big fireballs that often go up after an Israeli strike indicate that the some of the strikes have found ammo-dump targets.

      The Left will continue to give support to Hamas. The lines are drawn.

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