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| Eli Arnold is pictured planting a flag outside the Chattanooga National Guard recruitment center targeted by Mohammed Youssef Abdulazeez. |
From No explanation by Obama on flags not lowered to half-staff for Chattanooga shootings (dated July 20, 2015):
The White House provided no explanation Monday amid questions over why the president had not ordered flags across the nation to half-staff in the wake of a Chattanooga, Tenn., shooting that killed five servicemembers.Read the rest HERE.
Spokesman Josh Earnest said President Barack Obama offered condolences last week and may speak to veterans at VFW conference Tuesday about the shooting, but he had no further comment.
Obama has issued presidential proclamations that lowered flags at federal facilities and military bases after many mass shootings, including attacks at the Washington Navy Yard, Fort Hood in Texas, and Sandy Hook elementary in Connecticut. The lack of a proclamation following the deaths of four Marines and sailor in a possible terrorist attack Thursday by a 24-year-old Muslim man rankled some and spark online outrage.
“I don’t have more information about the status of the flag over the White House,” Earnest said, responding to a question at a daily briefing Monday with the press....
Let us remember that Obama ordered the lowering of United States flags when Nelson Mandela died in 2013. But not for five of our servicemen slaughtered right here on our home soil?
Obama, the Commander in Chief, hasn't so much as picked up the phone and spoken to the families of our fallen in Chattanooga!
GRRRRRR!
Related reading: Fallujah-in-Chattanooga by Tammy Swofford.
Concluding portion:
Lance Corporal Skip Wells was a highly trained, professional United States Marine. He was “armed” with a cell phone. He used his “weapon” to text the last known words attributed to him:Read the entire essay HERE.
ACTIVE SHOOTER
This is the real tragedy. It is the tragedy of an unarmed U.S. Marine.
This is why I hate national displays of emotion.....they become distracting political whiffle balls.
ReplyDeleteCI,
DeleteI'm not referring to political whiffle balls.
Obama hasn't so much as picked up the phone and spoken to the families of our fallen in Chattanooga!
He mealy mouthed something about heartbroken -- while he was sitting in a chair and looking like a very small man.
What did he do next? Go golfing? Grant commutations of sentences to prisoners? Attend a Broadway play that he sees as a mirror of his own life?
Today, Obama is scheduled to speak at a VFW gathering in Pittsburgh. I wish that everyone there would stand up and turn their backs on Obama. I bet that they won't, though.
Commander in Chief? Pfffft.
You really don't expect the President to acknowledge his own 'f-ups, do you? Lowering flags would be an admission of where the responsibility lies, and for all the world to see.
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama's motto: "The buck stops somewhere else, not here!"
Joe,
DeleteI certainly do not expect any accountability from Barack Hussein Obama.
This is not a political whiffle ball. At minimum, the Commander-in-Chief should have been present at Dover to pay his respect as the caskets of the deceased were unloaded.
ReplyDeleteIt was a former CinC who first showed deep concern for the incident at Fort Hood.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/george-w-bush-secretly-visits-fort-hood-victims/
Have you ever gazed down into the casket of a soldier who has been killed by the enemy? I have done so. Work was set aside, Alpha dress blues pulled out of the closet, and last respects paid.
Our POTUS is one helluva guy. Yeah, one helluva guy.
Tammy Swofford
(prior) LCDR, USNR, NC
At minimum, the Commander-in-Chief should have been present at Dover to pay his respect as the caskets of the deceased were unloaded.
DeleteAre you saying that he hasn't? My point stands.
Did you know that he (Obama) ordered all U.S. Military Personnel to Submit to Sharia during Ramadan when you're off base..
ReplyDeleteBut the liberals are loving it…
Delete"Did you know that he (Obama) ordered all U.S. Military Personnel to Submit to Sharia during Ramadan when you're off base.."
DeleteWell then, I darn sure wouldn't step foot "off base" during such an observance of HELL!
You don't have to worry about it, because it isn't true.
Deletehttp://www.snopes.com/politics/military/ramadan.asp
DeleteNo, it's not quite true....but there is some questionable stuff in it...I'm not sure our soldiers don't know enough about Ramadan (I DO, if I DO...) that they'd have to have extensive briefings....
The soldiers say that not eating in restaurants off base wasn't too terrible because most restaurants are closed, anyway. That's the funniest thing I've read recently because it's such a leftwing type of obfuscation...whether you like it or not, or restaurants are serving or not, you WERE TOLD NOT TO EAT AT THEM during RAMADAN...
the Snopes article is worth reading.
Z - I'm not particularly a fan of Snopes, but it has oddly been one of the better places to refute this meme, back when it first hit the absurd Stars & Stripes article in 2014. Which itself is odd, as this type of cultural information briefing has occurred in every U.S. base in the Middle East for as long as I can remember.
DeleteSnopes is anything but unbiased (I know who started it and their politics,here in L.A....it's completely biased toward the left on most things) but on pieces like this it's pretty cut and dried...
DeleteI get weary of misinformation like this just to whip up anti muslim sentiment; as if we haven't enough reason to be on the alert.
While the veracity of SNOPES is open to debate, the only ones that I know who treat it as gospel are also very liberal. When I used to go there, now and then, I noticed that their wording needed to be scrutinized, especially when they were at odds with an issue running counter to their liberal bias. I don't waste my time there anymore.
DeleteThis is a great example of fanaticism. Islamism is problematic only inasmuch as it cultivates attitudes which resemble the above.
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ReplyDeleteAOW, are you noticing that the non-blog owning lefties are coming out in droves already? It usually starts about four months before the election. I'm seeing more and more and it happens every single election cycle. You'll never hear from these commenters again after the election. Not sure if they're paid or not...lots of folks think they are. It's kind of amusing!
ReplyDeleteAs for your post, when we read for what other events the flags were lowered, it really is sad that soldiers dying on our soil don't get that respect .... it's definitely not 'whiffle ball' when added to the growing list of assaults to our morale, American dignity, by this president. it shows something we should all acknowledge ...
Z,
DeleteYes, I'm noticing that they are out and about earlier. Why is that?
Hate. Hoping to dishearten. Ugly, non-topic-related comments......probably copy/paste.
DeleteThe talk radio thing starts in a few months, too...."I used to vote Republican, but I won't anymore, because...."
Wait for it. Never fails. Same voices sometimes; I've heard hosts say "Oh, ya...you called in yesterday, too"
Couldn't be heightened anticipation of the insanity that's going to flow from La Trump August 6th and probably hand the election to Clinton, could it?
Delete'Ol B'rer Fox, she lay low.
All she has to do is let him and Walker ("I'm ready to bomb Iran on Day 1") keep talking.
Ah, no....as stated really clearly above, this has happened every election cycle. Nothing new. Just sort of typical.
DeleteWe should be lucky enough to have a Walker as president. It won't happen; too much 'feel good promises' by the Left.
Every election cycle? That's an exaggeration.
DeleteThere was certainly a change in 2012 with that pletora of candidates (remember Herman "9-9-9" Cain) who were obviously fringe being whittled down.
You could say there was a sea change with the nomination of Sarah Palin.
The change was the ascendence of the Roger Ailes branch of the party. Now you're stuck with it and will once again have to accept the far right's position as a minority in American politics.
Upset about Cuba and Iran?
Upset that he talked about prison reform?
You're in a minority, accept it.
Next you re going to come to understand (but not admit) that mass shootings are a fact of life in America and this last one is nothing more than the latest in a string that goes back a long way.
Earliest I remember is Charles Whitman. He wasn't Muslim but the people were just as dead.
Duck,
DeleteComparing Whitman with Abdulazeez is an analogy stretched too far. If you know details about the Whitman case, you know to what I'm referring.
You might want to catch up on today's news about Abdulazeez and his uncle (or maybe I this cousin) in Jordan.
PS: Whitman didn't open fire on our military. That is but one difference between Whitman and Abdulazeez.
DeleteDucky, not sure how to respond.
DeleteYou are doubting that these leftwing hate comments and talk show calls don't come every election cycle? you're telling me that after I said I've seen it every time? I'm not sure why you do this; you read the blogs more than anybody I know. Please stop.
If there's one thing most people have realized about me is I don't lie. For anything. I don't think you're a liar, either, but it's only liars who usually suspect everyone else IS, you know?
You sound like those people attempting to dishearten and anger every day of the week, by the way.
And I'm not sure what you mean that some of us don't realize mass shootings are becoming normal in America? Never quite sure where you come up with this stuff and why twist and turn words and mischaracterize?
You see, because Muslims have done much of it doesn't mean all muslims are bad.
Because Hispanics are raping and shooting doesn't mean all Hispanics are bad, far from it.
We're a minority if we are"upset about Cuba and Iran?" No, we're not.
There are Dem senators upset about Cuba and Iran.
Have you stopped paying attention to the news?
Look, these are matters of character; Cubans don't like this detente....Rubio, Menendez. They KNOW; I'd have thought their input mattered. Menendez also doesn't like the Iran deal. There ARE still people of character who think America comes first.
Get used to that. We're a dying breed, but we're still here.
Would it help if I linked some articles? I'm just too busy.
Z,
DeleteDid you hear about the fight that Menendez is putting up?
Front page of the WaPo's print copy today:
Menendez lawyers accuse Justice Department of misconduct.
Z,
DeleteWe're a dying breed, but we're still here.
Indeed.
And you're exactly right about the trolling as election cycles approach. Every time -- even during mid-term elections, albeit not as much during the mid-term cycle as during the National Election cycle.
Furthermore, the trolling is always worse when there is no incumbent on the ticket.
"worse when there is no incumbent on the ticket"
DeleteAha...and that could WELL be the reason the trolls (which I think is a euphemism for the creeps, they're so vicious) are out early....right?
I am admiring Bob Menendez more and more. Not so much that he agrees with me/us, but that he'd stand up against the tide. That's impressive.
But, really, AOW...wouldn't you think that if Obama didn't feel he knew everything already and if he didn't have the left wing "love Cuba" agenda since probably his teens, any president with real dignity and a curious intellect might have quizzed CUBANS on this situation? I would have.."Why are you against it? It's been years and maybe it's time to change our relationship" "Why do you feel it's the wrong thing to do?"
I'd have loved to have had SOME CONVERSATION, even publicized, about some of these things..
As of this morning, the U.S Capitol building is flying the flag at half staff. Is that the only federal building doing so, or did an order come down to fly the flay at half staff at all federal buildings?
ReplyDeleteApparently, McConnell and Boehner gave the order for the Capitol.
DeleteThe U.S. Flag at the White House is still at full staff as far as I can find out right now.
DeleteI think an explanation is owed.
DeleteI noticed the flag was at half staff at the Museum of Fine Arts, Sunday. Don't understand why it wouldn't be at the White House.
It's almost as if it's done out of some defiance.
Not good.
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DeleteIt only took a week for Fumbo to order it
Deletessshhh, Tyrone! We're supposed to keep admiring him, anyway :-)
DeleteAround 12:30 PM, Obama gave the order. At the VFW convention in Pittsburgh or just afterward?
ReplyDeleteU.S.Flags will remain at half mast until sunset on July 25.
Damage control, IMO.
DeleteFive days too late.
Nice to see that Conservatives (probably Cons. blogs) got this done. typical.
DeleteConstitutional Insurgent:
ReplyDeletePlease send an image link. I cannot find any image of the POTUS at Dover paying respects for the four U.S. Marines and lone Navy sailor killed on U.S. soil. My comment was directed toward the present not the past.
The Last English Prince
Why would the four Marines and one Sailor go to Dover?
DeleteI think only overseas deaths come through Dover....these military men killed in TN would go to custody of their families, is that right, CI?
DeleteYep. Dover is the reception point for remains of the fallen from overseas. Given that the two shooting sites weren't on a base, I'm guessing the main hospital in Chattanooga hosted the Coroner/ME duties.
DeleteFYI...
DeleteChattanooga shooting victims fly from Manassas to Dover (dated July 18, 2015):
MANASSAS, Va. (WUSA) -- A caravan delivered the bodies of the four Marines that were killed in the Chattanooga shooting to Manassas, Va. Friday, where they were flown to Dover, Del.
Thanks AOW, color me corrected. I didn't know that the Air Force had now taken over all 'Dignified Transfer' services as well as all autopsies performed on service members [including stateside]. Manassas seems like an odd transfer point.
DeleteCI,
DeleteIs there a heliport in Manassas?
It seems that the procession came by hearse from Chattanooga.
Manassas has a regional airport....just seems like a long drive when Arnold AFB and Fort Campbell are closer. I obviously didn't see any press allowing for mourners to pay their respects along the route.
Deletethat's right....Perhaps all those soldiers don't live/have family in that city? Or maybe they must have gov't autopsies, CI? Seems odd, but maybe it's a legality?
DeleteThat's all I can think of....automatic autopsies for this type of event? But I'm light years removed from being a Mortuary Affairs guy...so I can only speculate.
DeleteThe bodies of ALL U.S. Military casualties are shipped to Dover, Delaware in body bags for later transport to their final resting places. Don't ask me wy, because I don't know, but I live in Dover, Delaware and know this to be a fact.
Delete- Ernestine Flamm
Throw open your doors and let wild animals in, don't be surprised when they tear a family member to shreds.
ReplyDeleteThe moslems are not fit for modern, polite society and should be let alone in their own lands.
Of course obama changed his tune sometime today and adjusted the white house flags.
ReplyDeleteI also read today that 6 states have ordered their National Guard to be armed. Who wants to bet the next Natl Guard recruiting center to get hit will be in some libtard state with unarmed Guard.
Kid,
DeleteToo late to have any real meaning, IMO.
I wonder how those in uniform feel about this delay.
It is worth noting that Obama didn't wait long to light up the White House in the colors of the gay flag and in the Iranian flag. He and his minions didn't let any time lag occur for those tributes.
I've also heard a lot about his not phoning the families of the Chattanooga Five.
And to add fuell to the fire...
ReplyDeleteHere is more proof that we have become a 3rd World nation, and that Planned Parenthood is Selling Dead Baby Parts!!! This is so disgusting. And if it is known this is taking place, and there are laws on the books against it, why does it continue?
Because abortion is the sacred cow of the left. They will ignore the fact that most abortions are carried out by "doctors" that do not even rate well enough to have admission privileges at local hospitals, ignore the fact that women do die as a direct result of the procedure, that abortion clinics are not inspected on a regular basis for sanitary and safety standards...all in the name of making them "safe and rare."
What do they care that PP has been running what amounts to a wholesale slaughter house at the expense of the American taxpayer? Excuses will be made, lies will be told...followed up with "nothing to see here, move on."
In a lengthy investigation, Planned Parenthood Federation Senior Director of Medical Services Dr. Deborah Nucatola, is recorded discussing the sale of dead babies. She calmly nibbles on a nice green salad and sips a bit of wine as she tells the buyers (actors, posing as medical researchers) all about her organization’s efforts to deliver intact limbs and organs to interested parties.
A few excerpts:
We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.
I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps.
Mysteriously, these “clumps of cells” are suddenly considered identifiable bodies with limbs and organs.
And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex. So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.
In case you’re wondering, the calvarium is piece of the skull. According to Nucatola, as the abortionist is executing the child, he will sometimes “evacuate” it a certain way so the baby’s head can later be sold for money.
Further demonstrating Planned Parenthood’s high standards and attention to detail, the depraved salad-chomping sociopath even admits to having no idea what some of these buyers plan to do with the “items” they purchase:
Some people want lower extremities, too. I mean that’s simple. That’s easy. I don’t know what they’re going to do with it, though.
Of course, it’s actually a federal crime to traffic aborted babies, so she stipulates that they must be careful:
At the national office, we have a Litigation and Law Department which just really doesn’t want us to be the middle people for this issue right now. But I will tell you that behind closed doors these conversations are happening with the affiliates.
Because abortion is the sacred cow of the left. They will ignore the fact that most abortions are carried out by "doctors" that do not even rate well enough to have admission privileges at local hospitals, ignore the fact that women do die as a direct result of the procedure, that abortion clinics are not inspected on a regular basis for sanitary and safety standards...all in the name of making them "safe and rare."
What do they care that PP has been running what amounts to a wholesale slaughter house at the expense of the American taxpayer? Excuses will be made, lies will be told...followed up with "nothing to see here, move on."
Your topic is off topic. However, I will let it stand because, at some point, I think that I will be blogging about Planned Parenthood.
DeleteAfter I return from hiatus, that is. Going on hiatus today.
None of them looked like his son if he had one.
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