Friday, August 1, 2014

Today on The Gathering Storm

(Ongoing political discussion at the blog posts below this one)

Listen to The Gathering Storm Radio Show, hosted by WC and Always On Watch.

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Our scheduled guest this week is Mr. Ducky. We will be discussing Ukraine and Russia.

Listen to the August 1, 2014 edition of The Gathering Storm Radio Show, live or later, by CLICKING HERE.

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36 comments:

  1. hope alls well AOW and your eyes are improving:) have a blessed weekend dear friend!

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    1. WHT,
      Thanks for asking.

      Vision in the operated eye is stable at 20/25, and that stability of vision is unusual all these months after the October 2, 2014 surgery for retinal detachment.

      However, I have developed a conjunctival cyst in the operated eye. The cyst is somewhat bothersome. An eye specialist will check that cyst every 6 months. As long as it doesn't cause too much eye ache or interfere with vision, we're going to leave it alone.

      Needless to say, I taking every precaution with my lifestyle so as not to aggravate that eye's condition.

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    1. Odie,
      I understand. I know that you and Duck are certainly not friends.

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  3. Perhaps Mr. Ducky will explain to us why the Russian oligarch's are a better deal for Ukraine than the European ones.

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    1. Ducky will explain why the Ukrainian people are screwed either way.

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    2. They aren't "equally screwed". The western oligarch's aren't anti-democratic and prone to deplying the army to keep the peasants in line. People are dying in Ukraine, duck, and it isn't at the instigation of European oligarchs. The west only encouraged the Ukrainians to act. The Russians just sent in the jackboots.

      -FJ

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    3. The western oligarch's withhold business deals... the Russian oligarchs break legs and hold your family hostage. It's not "equivalent".

      -FJ

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    4. Good show, guys! :)

      -FJ

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    5. FJ,
      For once when I was running the show, there were no BTR glitches. BTR doesn't like me -- or something.

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  4. For the first time in my life, I'll have to agree with Ducky about the people being screwed either way. Now I gotta go bleach my mind out for even thinking that.

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    1. Marine4Ever,
      The Ukraine has forever been stomped on -- except for a brief period several centuries ago.

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    3. We talked the Ukraine out of their nukes, same with Gaddafi. Israel took care of Syria and Iraqs nukes. Iran has learned very well.

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  5. People are dying in Ukraine, duck, and it isn't at the instigation of European oligarchs.
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    The Kiev government is a bunch of thugs and a Western puppet.

    They have been responsible for some ruthless bombardment in the East.
    I don't know where we get this idea that Westerners aren't also efficient killers.

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  6. When the jackboots roll tanks over the border and mix in trained advisors and air-defense units... any Ukrainian who wouldn't fight back would just be another slav/slave.

    -FJ

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    1. FJ,
      I agree with your comment of 8:57:00 PM EDT.

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  7. "They have been responsible for some ruthless bombardment in the East.
    I don't know where we get this idea that Westerners aren't also efficient killers."

    Well, well, you've crossed the line from ridiculous to dillusional. Think the Ukrainians just might be 'bombarding' in response to what's coming from the East? Na...I'm sure your hero, Russia, is just pleased as punch to have you believe it, however.
    If only Westerns WERE more efficient killers.

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    1. Z,
      In my view, Westerners are certainly efficient killers. We have the military capability -- that's for sure.

      The differences between the West and most of the rest of the world: (1) the West today goes to war in an attempt to defend ideals and people's right to self-rule and (2) the West is ready to put on the brakes much sooner via diplomacy.

      A lot of people seem to have forgotten that, after WW2, the West helped Germany and Japan to rebuild.

      BTW, Z, have you seen the film America yet?

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  8. Offensive is NOT the "equivalent" of Defense.

    -FJ

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  9. Blame the victim much, ducky?

    -FJ

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    1. Blames Israel, too, FJ. Constantly. Makes no matter what the truth is.
      Well said.

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    2. Duck has never been a supporter of Israel -- no matter what the circumstances.

      This last ceasefire between Israel and Hamas was a debacle. **sigh**

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    3. Yupitsi Darnit said

      I do not support Israel either, though I feel great sympathy for the deluded souls who deliberately chose to live where they were bound to meet with unending hostility.. The concept of Zionism has proved itself to be a tragic error for all concerned.

      Anti-Semitism will never end, until the Jews stop regarding themselves as special, distinct, separate, and above the rest of mankind. It is their misunderstanding of the concept of being "Chosen" that has been the root of all their troubles.

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    4. Yupsitsi,
      I don't see the issue in the same terms as you do.

      More peoples than Jews believe that they are the chosen people. Indeed, many groups -- and individuals -- regard themselves as special, distinct, separate, and above the rest of mankind.

      the deluded souls who deliberately chose to live where they were bound to meet with unending hostility

      There may be unending hostility in that area, but that hostility, historically, predates the arrival of the modern nation of Israel.

      Besides, there is also the matter of the persecution of Jews over many centuries in many different lands. I can't say that Jews "deserved" such persecution much more than numerous other groups.

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    5. And one more thing....The New World European settlers came to this side of the world and settled an area in which they met great hostility on the part of the indigenous peoples. If not for superior weaponry and the inadvertent diseases brought over by the Europeans, the indigenous peoples might well have won the victory?

      Shall we then advocate now that the New World should never have been settled by Europeans in the 16th and 17th centuries?

      Something to think about as related to your comment, IMO.

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  10. Yupitsi Darnit said

    A few items to think about:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Thomas


    ... Rabbi David Nesenoff of RabbiLive.com, on the White House grounds with his son and a teenage friend[48] for a May 27, 2010, American Jewish Heritage Celebration Day,[49] questioned Thomas as she was leaving the White House via the North Lawn driveway.[50][51][52][53][54][55][56][57][58]

    When asked for comments on Israel, she replied: "Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine." and "Remember, these people are occupied and it's their land. It's not German, it's not Poland..." When asked where Israeli Jews should go, she replied they could "go home" to Poland or Germany or "America and everywhere else. Why push people out of there who have lived there for centuries?" She also mentioned she was of "Arab background." A one-minute excerpt of the May 27, 2010, interview was posted on Nesenoff's website on June 3.[54][59]

    On June 4, Thomas posted the following response on her web site:

    I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians. They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.[60][61][62]

    Following this episode Helen Thomas, 88 or 89 years old at the time, and the longest surviving member of the White House Press Corps -- and a most highly vocal, irritatingly, waspish liberal --, was suddenly deep sixed never to be heard from publicly again.

    Eminent columnist Joe Sobran received the same treatment, as did ex-CIA Agent, and Middle East scholar Michael Scheuer, who headed the Osama bin Laden Task Force. Dr. Scheuer, who was summarily fired after publicly questioning the integrity of the Israel Lobby’s role in U.S. Foreign policy, and for stating unequivocally on Judge Andrew Napolitano’s program that “Israel is not our friend.” Shortly after that the Judge, a bright man who earned a degree from Princeton, was fired by FOX News.

    There could be no question as to who is really running the show when it comes to public communication. No one of any consequence may dare speak out about the Jews and hope to survive.

    NO ONE should have THAT much power - EVER.

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    1. Yupitsi,
      NO ONE should have THAT much power - EVER.

      I agree.

      There are other matters about which "no word must be spoken," too.

      On the other hand, anti-Semitic speech specifically designed to provoke violence is dangerous in the extreme. See this, for example. Such designated days are not as unusual as you might think. Google search "slap a Jew day" or "kick a Jew day" (without quotation marks), and see how many hits come up.

      The world has gone mad, and there seems to be no end to the madness!

      The human species has an incredible inability to find balance. **sigh**

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  11. Interesting interview AOW. Points out how few things are black and white. You choose the lesser or more controllable of two evils - how we ended up allied with Stalin in WW2.

    I have 2 theories on the airplane in Ukraine which both reflect one perspective of Putin, that clever little b*st*rd.

    1) He helped the Russian-backed separatists by supplying them with the tools and know how to shoot down the plane while keeping Russian hands officially clean. Or,

    2) He tricked the Ukrainians into believing it was HIS plane with coordinates leaked to zero in on the plane so he can locate the crews in Ukraine with the skill and tools to be dangerous.

    Information or disinformation? Who knows. Like they used to the say in the old Soviet Union: There is no Pravda (truth) in Izvestia (the news) and no Izvestia in Pravda.

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    1. Baysider,
      I'm not happy about choosing the lesser or more controllable of two evils, but doing so is, IMO, in the better interest of the United States.

      Either of your theories could well be correct. We won't know this side of eternity.

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  12. I never thought I would see the Duck back Putin.

    I do listen to the show. If you ever get a larger format Beakerkin vs the Duck. Now that would be radio.

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    1. Beak,
      If you ever get a larger format Beakerkin vs the Duck

      I'll keep that in mind.

      Thanks for listening to the show, Beak. You are welcome to phone in anytime!

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  13. Shaw,, I know that uou are responsible for some of these lame-brain anti Conservative comments here, you enjoy calling people "idiots" and about how you hate Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. and just about anyone who has a “R” in front of his name. I have been this blog of yours for about 4 years and have read all your posts as they correspond to the subject politics. i have noticed a lot of things about you, and lamely enough your no different than the other blind Liberal Idiot fruit cakes that I’ve met everyday in my life, and on these here boards..
    I couldn't care less if you threw away your logical brain as a child or an adult.
    it truly matters very little in the grand scheme of how you conduct your life. and that is what i learn about you; i learn exactly the things you yourself choose to deny from your responses to your blog. i get to see your inner working mind as you attempt to defend your position which give me a blueprint as to how you not only view problems but also how you deal with a problem and attempt to reach a solution to said problem.
    with the correct ability to view information anyone can disasseble anyone else to truly figure out how they tick. in all truth i just mess with you because i'm bored and i know how to get a rise out of you; in real life i would yawn, pat you on the head , tell you to go “F” yourself and walk away laughing.

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