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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

A Stunner

(Ongoing discussion about the Bergdahl-Taliban trade at the blog post below this one)

For discussion: House Majority Leader Cantor defeated in primary

What caused this upset? What does this upset mean?

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    1. Does Virginia allow crossover primaries?

      Cantor get vote bombed by Dems?

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    2. Virginia primaries are open to any registered voter regardless of any political party affiliation.

      BTW, it was another "monsoon day" here in Virginia yesterday. Henrico County always floods badly. I'm surprised that so many even came to the polls.

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    3. Ducky,
      Initial analysis by WaPo says no...

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/11/did-democratic-votes-doom-eric-cantor/

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    4. SF,
      Thanks for that link.

      I've been busy following a couple of other stories -- one of them being what's happening today in Iraq.

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    5. Wow. A civil exchange with Ducky. Cool.

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  2. Just found this interesting comment on the web: Did you all see what happened when the immigrationistas invaded Cantor's HQ after what was supposed to have been a victory? Latino flash mob demanding rights. I guess they didn't know their boy had lost. Anyway it got ugly and cops were called.

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    1. That would have been the perfect time to round them up and toss them back into Mexico.

      I'm not sorry to see Cantor go. Not much else to say.

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  4. Dave Brat, poorly funded and without the backing of the national arm of the Tea Party, ran on an anti-amnesty platform, but that wasn't all that he ran on.

    Last night, it was obvious to me that Cantor had not prepared a concession speech, neither had Brat prepared a victory speech.

    None of this matters until the election results in November 2014. Both the Dem and the GOP candidates are professors at Randolph-Macon College.

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    1. It matters a great deal because Republicans will be terrified to do anything on immigration.
      Here comes the Hispanic vote for Hillary,

      Coupled with the guaranteed side show of Ben Carson, Ted Cruz et. al. i the primary and you're looking at president Clinton.

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    2. @ Ducky: you're looking at president Clinton

      It was already a foregone conclusion, anyway. The GOP have no viable candidate, but more importantly, no coherent message?

      Does anybody know what they stand for?

      At least the Democrat party has rainbows and lollipops, unicorns and free prizes for all...

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  6. From UPI:

    Immigration protest erupts at Eric Cantor's election rally: Immigration activists stormed Eric Cantor's election rally, rubbing salt in the wound of the House majority leader's stunning primary defeat

    ...As Cantor left the Richmond hotel where his supporters, who had come expecting a party, stood stunned, immigration activists pushed their way into the ballroom to rub salt in the wound.

    "What do we want? Immigration reform!" the shouted, waving an American flag. "When do we want it? Now!"...


    More at the above link -- including video footage.

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  7. And what did we hear from Boehner? Just whining about his best bud Cantor losing. No congrats, no class.

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    1. Boehner's retiring.

      Look for Louie Gohmert to make a run for speaker.
      This is actually bad news for the Republicans.

      The 2016 primary should look even more bizarre than 2012 and you know what happened then.

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    2. Don't quack too soon, Ducky. The Democrat party primary could shape up to be a pretty amazing freakshow. Your won Pocahontas could end up jumping in

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    3. I'd happily support Warren against Clinton.

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    4. Worth the price of admission. Billy boy will take care of everything.

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  8. So what the Brat win and Cantor loss really meant.
    It meant that the is trouble ahead for the Progressive Party, aka the communist party The party that Obama is so desperately trying to push. And with the support he has been receiving from the rank and file of the RINO’s, Obama has had free reign to execute his disturbing agenda of ruling as the leader of the Socialist Democratic Front.
    Americans who have not been assimilated into the Obama clan can clearly see this country, at the hands of Obama and the extreme left, has lost her way. I just have this sinking feeling that others throughout the world don't quite look to us with envy like the once did. In fact, in many cases I suspect they pity us for they know that America has become much like the countries that many, many flee from for a better way of life.

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  9. As 'Her Thigness Clinton' might have said; At this point who cares?

    For real- It's more about punishing those who have allowed the country to go down the crapper. So what if a Dem wins? Not much difference IMHO between the Democrat and Cantor so it would be transparent

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  10. One less powerful GOP pol on The Hill. Good job, Silly Party!

    JMJ

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  11. Jersey McJones, are you always such a Jerk, or is today a special day!

    It would be nice if Democrats like Jones put this much energy into posting something that contributed to the well being of this country.... But Nah!

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    1. The right wing is eating itself alive right now, OM. It's funny.

      JMJ

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  12. Jersey McJones said: "One less powerful GOP pol on The Hill. Good job, Silly Party!

    Obama is the winner of Presidents who have complete discard and disdain for the Constitution. Where have you been all this tyim RipVanWinkle Jones?

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  13. Jersey McJones, you and your gang of assholes are still incapable of posting a reasonably seasonable comment.

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    1. Here's a reasonable seasonable comment: "And what is so rare as a day in June? Then, if ever, come perfect days...".
      James Russell Lowell

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  14. It seems to me that a [rational] economist ,unlike a Keynesian, in the House would be a plus. I hope that he makes it.

    I think "Jersey" is nothing but a shill, meant to emphasize left-wing nonsense!

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  15. There should to be some kind of award for the most stupid post of the day, and I think that JERSEY should run away with it.

    It must be frustrating for leftards like him and the other Progressive imbeciles with All their efforts, and name calling, the smear and their hate the TEA Party is still alive an well. You hypocrites!.

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  16. If nothing else this will make for good entertainment down the line.

    Ducky and Silverfiddle summed it up accurately IMO.

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  17. sharing with uRational Nation USA Said ”If nothing else this will make for good entertainment down the line.

    Ducky and Silverfiddle summed it up accurately IMO”.


    Thanks for sharing that with us, but who really gives a crap...IMOs, please

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    1. Some of us care very much. I agree with RN. The GOP will have to decide in which direction it wants to go: moderate or with the Tea Party. It will be interesting to see.

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  19. "Illegal" being the key word here. That was the entire reason Cantor was defeated. Cantor was trying to have it both ways. Telling his former constituents that he was against immigration reform but in congress promoting it. He got caught. He made the mistake of thinking they weren't paying attention.
    There are 90 million Americans out of work...We don't need any more immigrants at this time, and we are paying attention.
    Besides, Mexcan’s can't do real jobs. They are lazy and drunk all the time, so how the hell are they going to steal a meaningful job? But they know how to take the entitlements that Obama is giving out, they know how to do that very well.The rate of crime increases exponentially in states with high numbers of illegal immigrants. The illegal immigrants are just that: illegal. They enjoy the freedom that American citizens get, but do not support the country with taxes.
    Obama and his Gang need to realize that we cannot support these criminals. law breakers, illegal immigrants, or what else you want to call them.,.. If the MEXICANS want to come to this country, they are goinbg to have to do it the right way. Don't sneak over here and expect things to be handed to you, especially when they aren't paying taxes or contributing anything to society.
    Yes we conservatives are for Immigration reform, but ONLY the legal way
    The Tea Party is for immigration reform that first includes sealing our border....then providing for LEGAL, fair, restricted and organized immigration......protecting American jobs..Our immigration system is broken, and the evidence is overwhelming. Obama and his cronies let in million of undocumented immigrants ( other words for ILLEGAL’S) and they are swarming all over the United States.
    First, we need to secure the border. We can’t have a secure country without a secure border.
    Second, we need to enforce our laws. Otherwise, we will repeat the mistakes of the past.
    Third, we need to encourage legal immigration, and do whatever it takes to DIScourage illegal immigration!
    And we should NOT grant amnesty to illegal immigrants...period.
    Illegally crossing a border is a crime. Why should they be rewarded for it?

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  20. Leaving out the word "illegal" as in "illegal immigrant" is a typical left wing technique...

    Good job here AOW, keep up the good work.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-0-1E874C3700000578-910_634x474.jpg

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  21. From what I know, this is true:

    ...Dave Brat, the 52-year-old chairman of the Randolph-Macon College Department of Economics and Business in Ashland, Va., staged the huge upset without any help from major Tea Party organizations.

    But this troublesome fact hasn't stopped certain so-called Tea Party groups from capitalizing on Brat's victory, declaring enthusiastically that Cantor’s defeat equals a Tea Party insurgency....

    [...]

    And although Brat’s shocking victory can certainly be attributed to the tireless work of grassroots activists in his district, it’s important to remember that the aforementioned outside Tea Party groups offered him zero support.


    More at the above link.

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  22. Cantor along with a few other Rinos (& Dems) are jumping through hoops for the Chamber of Commerce to bring in illegals for cheap labor.....they are ignoring the joblessness and increasing poverty of middle class America.
    Today, however, we have a President who not only swapped five Taliban generals, men whom the United Nations regards as war criminals, but likely also paid a yet unreported ransom as well. We have a President who made it clear that he intended to close Guantanamo where jihadist enemies have been detained because he thinks the United States is provoking the Islamic fanatics by maintaining it.
    These people have no shame. We have a President who is bringing in hundreds of thousands of Mexican kids into this country to change the demographics of the voter base, so that the Dims can benefit from it. .You can expect that their parents will be fowling shortly, another 90 thousand of unskilled workers.
    This will be terrible for the economy. At a time when it's difficult for Americans to find jobs, these dickwads are bringing them in by the busload to take what little we have. Why are we not calling this Human Trafficking?
    It's a sad state of affairs when the U.S. President’s closest adviser (Valarie Jarrett) is an Iranian

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  23. Let this be a warning to all Politicians who are not listening to us Americans, . Eric Cantor was arrogant, as well as deaf and now he’s nothing!

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    1. Perhaps WE THE PEOPLE still have some power and some sense remaining. We shall find out in November.

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  24. One lunatic out replaced by a bigger lunatic. Keep 'em coming tea party!

    Dave Brat, Economics Professor: 'I Don't Have A Well-Crafted Response' On Minimum Wage;

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  25. More interesting is the rebel force apparently advancing on Baghdad and the NSA, CIA and who knows who else who probably know what kind of bagel I had for breakfast (onion) seem to have completely missed this.

    What a mess.

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  26. My heart leapt for joy when I saw that Brat beat Cantor!
    Now, Brat... DON'T go RINO on us!

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  27. .

    This is going to be great for the Republican Party!:

    David Brat: "Hitler Could 'Happen Again' If We Don't Embrace Christian Capitalism"

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  28. Thank you for your diagnosis. I can rest easier knowing that some people who write comments here (such as you) suffer from delusions such as schizophrenia!..

    PS...And as 'Her Thigness Clinton' might have said; At this point who cares?

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  29. Cantor isa JEW. What else needs to be said?

    Amazing, and disturbing, he ever got as far as he did, especially in back country part of Ol' Virginny.

    Good riddance.

    Harold Beckburger

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    1. Until just the other day, I didn't know that Cantor was Jewish. Of course, I'm not in his district.

      Henrico County is not really the back country part of Ol' Virginny.

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  30. Duck,
    "More interesting is the rebel force apparently advancing on Baghdad"

    Not to worry, the great one has drawn another line in the sand and the militants are pulling back out of fear.

    Cantor losing is not a bad thing. Bat sh-t warren announced she is headed to Kentucky to help grimes which should help mcconnell win.
    It is a sad day when tom coburn retires because he is the last honest politician who actually represents the people of the United States.

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  31. A couple of points:

    First, Democrats cross over voting was NOT a factor. Turnout in primarily Democrat precincts was very low. Certainly not enough to for the landslide win Brat enjoyed:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/13/did_crossover_democrats_doom_eric_cantor_122967.html

    Second, immigration was a key issue in Brat's win but I think the biggest factor is that he presented a reasonable alternative to Cantor who had been in that seat for 7 terms and lost touch with his district. Brat wasn't some right wing knuckle dragger, he didn't scare anyone with odd views that are out of the mainstream. He is articulate and presentable. Voters in his district aren't likely to be embarrassed by him once he's in office.

    Finally, I'm here in South Carolina and I didn't vote for Lindsey Graham in the primary. But there wasn't one candidate opposing Graham but six. They were minor candidates, no real standout. Had there been ONE candidate like Brat instead of six it might have been a different story. Also, those citing Graham as an excuse to continue down the amnesty path forget that it was a statewide race and not a conservative congressional district.

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    1. Mike,
      I hope that we're beginning to see a ground swell of conservatism.

      Jack Trammell, Brat's opponent, isn't much. I've done some research on Trammell. Sheesh.

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    2. AOW: As much as anything Cantor's defeat shows that the grass roots conservative voters are not going to be bullied or intimidated by the WallStreet/KStreet establishment types. When presented with clear and attractive alternatives they'll go for principles over compromise every time.

      And yes, Brat's district does appear to be a safe seat for his election.

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    3. Mike,
      I see that we agree. Voters in Henrico County are no dummies -- this I know for a fact.

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  32. Too funny though. Cantor enabled the tea party only to have it bite him in the ass. Now the GOP Congress (with the exception of one appointed African American), are all white Christians. Way to remain relevant, GOP. Buh, bye!

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    1. I personally know several black "members" of the Tea Party Movement. And I'm not speaking of old geezers either. They are highly educated -- with master's and Ph.D.'s.

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    2. PS to Liberalmann: Once again, you do not know whereof you speak. Every political party has degrees of adherence to the party line. You might recall when Joe Lieberman left the Democratic Party because it has moved to the far Left.

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