Cleon Skowsen went over the high side a few times too often. Utter rubbish.
Reactionary nonsense.
I enjoyed hi rant about turning sculpture into "meaningless forms". Maybe he should have visited the sculpture park at the DeCordova. The clip should be an embarrassment
I consider myself to be more Libertarian than anything else, but I think we need a better word than "progressive" to describe it. That word, I feel, is too political. I feel like we (Libertarians) should not use a word that is already closely associated with another political movement. If youre a liberal pretending to be a libertarian. congratulations, you’re an idiot! Progressives, to me, are people who are driven on emotion (and little reason). Many of them ignore data or ideas that put a particular group of people "out." Like, if you have five children out of wedlock and cannot afford the time or have the money to attend school. You made poor decisions and, in the free market, that is your own doing. Progressives would want to hand out as much as they could to this person.
If by "progressive" we mean "different than the state we are in currently," then I could agree but would still recommend a different term. America was founded on freedom, an escape from the tyranny of British rule. Our founding fathers wanted limited government (not NO government). Why do progressives want to change what this country was founded on? America is the last bastion of freedom (for now anyway) and those of us that believe in freedom want to protect it! It's called "socialism"
I've kept Linda Kimball's seminal article on my desktop since it first appeared in American Thinker. I think that was back in 2006. It's the only succinct piece that ever resonated with me. I see she presented a clear, compelling outline of how Marxism got to our shores and infiltrated every aspect of pop culture and the education racket.
You might remember I published "Cultural Marxism" in its entirety at my blog a couple of years ago.
Whenever leftists characterize information as "an incredible fabrication," right-wing hysteria," a tissue of lies, "an embarrassment," etc., you know you've struck a nerve, because the ONLY defense they have is to mock, scorn, denigrate, indulge in character assassination, or otherwise try to discredit the source and intent of the presentation.
The louder and shriller leftists get the less credible they appear -- to anyone capable of THOUGHT.
Unfortunately that holds true for "Right Wing Chauvinists" as well. Mindless fanaticism in the service of ANY cause is dangerous and does a great disservice to Truth.
FT, Thank you the birthday wishes -- here and at your blog.
BTW, I learned about that essay "Cultural Marxism" from you a while back. Boiling the frog has been quite successful, hasn't it? Many people -- some conservatives included -- subscribe to the ideas that Ms. Kimball mentioned and don't even realize that they are subscribing thereto:
...Thus we now have for example, radical feminists, black extremists, anti-war ‘peace' activists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, and ‘gay' rights groups. All of these groups pursue their piece of the radical agenda through a complex network of organizations such as the Gay Straight Lesbian Educators Network (GSLEN), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), People for the American Way, United for Peace and Justice, Planned Parenthood, Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS), and Code Pink for Peace.
Both communism and the New Left are alive and thriving here in America. They favor code words: tolerance, social justice, economic justice, peace, reproductive rights, sex education and safe sex, safe schools, inclusion, diversity, and sensitivity. All together, this is Cultural Marxism disguised as multiculturalism....
You know you're most welcome for my good wishes, AOW.
A point I'D like emphasize about the quotes in your last remark is something that often escapes us here on the Right, if that's where we are. The Left EXPLOITS real social problems, genuine grievances -- and anything else it can it can seize upon or conjure up -- STRICTLY to grab and hold ever-increasing amounts of DICTATORIAL POWER. The genuinely aggrieved are then DUPED into thinking that someone really CARES about them and is honestly dedicated to helping achieve justice or equity or whatever, but these deluded souls are only being USED as PAWNS. It's SO obvious -- at least to me -- and has been for decades. And THAT is why I favor Conservatives over Progressives.
But, I cherish no illusions that ANYONE in politics wants to help ANYONE other than themselves. It's pretty disgusting.
Meanwhile the poor get poorer, the wretched sink lower and lower, the minorities remain pretty much ostracized, and too often WOMEN, thanks to the likes of that Friedan Witch and her minions have become, carping, whining, squealing, screaming, snarling viragos determined to COMPETE with MEN whom they now want to regard as The Enemy.
FT, I am concerned that the Right is floundering so much. I have a theory as to why, and my theory isn't the same as some of what you typed in above.
The 2014 and 2016 elections will be interesting. It COULD be that the Democratic Party will suffer some of the same woes that the GOP as been suffering -- that is, not having a charismatic leader. Obama will not be running for POTUS again, and that fact may drastically affect the Democratic Party. We shall see.
Amazing how Ducky thinks that Dr. Skousen “went over the high side,” but defends such scatologists as Trotsky, Stalin, Alinsky, Keynes, Marcuse, Horkheimer, and Chomsky.
The problem with some of the Skousen's tenets, as appeared in the clip, is that to oppose them requires a Statist regime just as oppressive as what they would claim to fight against.
How about limited government and maximum liberty for the citizen? State mandated culture is dangerous no matter which end of the spectrum it comes from.
C I, you've just made the same point I tried to make (in many more words) above. Blind, fanaticism is deadly no matter WHAT cause it purports to serve.
BUT, Marxism, the multi-headed Hydra, and its vile derivatives is a CANCER on the body politic, and somehow -- like all cancers -- it must be burned out, excised, or poisoned to DEATH before it kills the Host.
"Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice."
We always walk a very fine line between sanity and madness, it seems.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Duck, I posit that it is possible that abstract art helps to break down society's appreciation of traditional art forms, which could also be considered standards and appreciation of culture.
I said "possible."
Now, I happen to like some abstract art. But, frankly, some of "the art" that I recently saw at the Hirshhorn Museum was a joke. People get paid for creating such "art"? Gimme a break!
Duck, Do you find this an interesting conundrum? Relate the following to my blog post today. Excerpt from the link:
...Rand wrote many other works, including an essay on education called “The Comprachicos,” now available in The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution. In it, she discussed the Montessori Method at some length. She also published an article by the late Beatrice Hessen, “The Montessori Method,” in The Objectivist magazine, which article is now reprinted in John Chattin-McNichols’ Montessori Schools in America: Historical, Philosophical and Empirical Research Perspectives.
These two articles introduced millions of Rand’s readers to the Montessori Method and movement – and many of them stayed. I, for one, had been searching since I was a child for a way of schooling which kept the joy in life while guiding students in learning. The Rand and Hessen articles intrigued me and led me to a life-long love for the Method, which included founding Council Oak Montessori school in Chicago. Currently, I am working on a new college using the Method (see www.collegeunitedstates.org).
I do not think I am an exception. You will find Rand’s influence in Montessori schools all around North America, from North Carolina and Pennsylvania to Illinois and Colorado; from Toronto to Texas – and I’m sure almost anywhere you look. ...
The sculpture discussion now reminds me of the controversy over the Vietnam memorial. Ross Perot stirred everyone up and had a conventional statue installed (it isn't really sculpture) while the main monument is a more abstract sculptural work.
The Wall still moves people to tears and the statue is largely ignored.
I'll have to look up that matter about the Vietnam Memorial. I don't recall any such controversy. I wasn't keeping up with politics or the news back then.
Of course, prior to the building of The Wall, we saw traditional monuments. Now we see such walls quite often. For example, there are numerous victims'-names walls related to 9/11.
Everything listed has, indeed, made itself manifest and become entrenched in our society. Most certainly the Cultural Marxist Agenda has had a dispiriting, perplexing, degenerative effect. but of course YOU KNOWN THAT, but simply refuse to admit it, because it doesn't suit your nefarious purposes.
You and your kind have nothing to offer but DENIAL and DEFAMATION.
How ironic that student riots in Venezuela are undermining the communist regime.
And we can all agree that communist propaganda has found a ready home in today's Democrat Party. I have two posts up on Venezuela. One is Marco Rubio's speech answering Democrat Senator Tom Harkin's praise for Cuba. Dems will swallow any lie favorable to communism and ignore every truth negative to it.
P.S. AOW: I've got a new post on Islamic terrorism and how blind some are to the real danger...
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g'morning my friend...indeed we are going backwards..what a horror to being living through such foreshadowing!
ReplyDeleteCleon Skowsen went over the high side a few times too often.
ReplyDeleteUtter rubbish.
Reactionary nonsense.
I enjoyed hi rant about turning sculpture into "meaningless forms". Maybe he should have visited the sculpture park at the DeCordova.
The clip should be an embarrassment
My blog, my choice as to what to post.
DeleteI'm sure Ducky wishes conservatives would buy in to his liberal propaganda, but I don't recommend that he hold his breath.
DeleteI don't expect you to tie into anything, mustang.
DeleteWith the distinct possible exception of McCarthy era hysterics.
I consider myself to be more Libertarian than anything else, but I think we need a better word than "progressive" to describe it. That word, I feel, is too political. I feel like we (Libertarians) should not use a word that is already closely associated with another political movement.
ReplyDeleteIf youre a liberal pretending to be a libertarian. congratulations, you’re an idiot!
Progressives, to me, are people who are driven on emotion (and little reason). Many of them ignore data or ideas that put a particular group of people "out." Like, if you have five children out of wedlock and cannot afford the time or have the money to attend school. You made poor decisions and, in the free market, that is your own doing. Progressives would want to hand out as much as they could to this person.
If by "progressive" we mean "different than the state we are in currently," then I could agree but would still recommend a different term. America was founded on freedom, an escape from the tyranny of British rule. Our founding fathers wanted limited government (not NO government). Why do progressives want to change what this country was founded on? America is the last bastion of freedom (for now anyway) and those of us that believe in freedom want to protect it! It's called "socialism"
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AOW!
ReplyDeleteI've kept Linda Kimball's seminal article on my desktop since it first appeared in American Thinker. I think that was back in 2006. It's the only succinct piece that ever resonated with me. I see she presented a clear, compelling outline of how Marxism got to our shores and infiltrated every aspect of pop culture and the education racket.
You might remember I published "Cultural Marxism" in its entirety at my blog a couple of years ago.
Whenever leftists characterize information as "an incredible fabrication," right-wing hysteria," a tissue of lies, "an embarrassment," etc., you know you've struck a nerve, because the ONLY defense they have is to mock, scorn, denigrate, indulge in character assassination, or otherwise try to discredit the source and intent of the presentation.
The louder and shriller leftists get the less credible they appear -- to anyone capable of THOUGHT.
Unfortunately that holds true for "Right Wing Chauvinists" as well. Mindless fanaticism in the service of ANY cause is dangerous and does a great disservice to Truth.
FT,
DeleteThank you the birthday wishes -- here and at your blog.
BTW, I learned about that essay "Cultural Marxism" from you a while back. Boiling the frog has been quite successful, hasn't it? Many people -- some conservatives included -- subscribe to the ideas that Ms. Kimball mentioned and don't even realize that they are subscribing thereto:
...Thus we now have for example, radical feminists, black extremists, anti-war ‘peace' activists, animal rights groups, radical environmentalists, and ‘gay' rights groups. All of these groups pursue their piece of the radical agenda through a complex network of organizations such as the Gay Straight Lesbian Educators Network (GSLEN), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), People for the American Way, United for Peace and Justice, Planned Parenthood, Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS), and Code Pink for Peace.
Both communism and the New Left are alive and thriving here in America. They favor code words: tolerance, social justice, economic justice, peace, reproductive rights, sex education and safe sex, safe schools, inclusion, diversity, and sensitivity. All together, this is Cultural Marxism disguised as multiculturalism....
You know you're most welcome for my good wishes, AOW.
DeleteA point I'D like emphasize about the quotes in your last remark is something that often escapes us here on the Right, if that's where we are. The Left EXPLOITS real social problems, genuine grievances -- and anything else it can it can seize upon or conjure up -- STRICTLY to grab and hold ever-increasing amounts of DICTATORIAL POWER. The genuinely aggrieved are then DUPED into thinking that someone really CARES about them and is honestly dedicated to helping achieve justice or equity or whatever, but these deluded souls are only being USED as PAWNS. It's SO obvious -- at least to me -- and has been for decades. And THAT is why I favor Conservatives over Progressives.
But, I cherish no illusions that ANYONE in politics wants to help ANYONE other than themselves. It's pretty disgusting.
Meanwhile the poor get poorer, the wretched sink lower and lower, the minorities remain pretty much ostracized, and too often WOMEN, thanks to the likes of that Friedan Witch and her minions have become, carping, whining, squealing, screaming, snarling viragos determined to COMPETE with MEN whom they now want to regard as The Enemy.
PHOOEY!!!
FT,
DeleteI am concerned that the Right is floundering so much. I have a theory as to why, and my theory isn't the same as some of what you typed in above.
The 2014 and 2016 elections will be interesting. It COULD be that the Democratic Party will suffer some of the same woes that the GOP as been suffering -- that is, not having a charismatic leader. Obama will not be running for POTUS again, and that fact may drastically affect the Democratic Party. We shall see.
Amazing how Ducky thinks that Dr. Skousen “went over the high side,” but defends such scatologists as Trotsky, Stalin, Alinsky, Keynes, Marcuse, Horkheimer, and Chomsky.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with some of the Skousen's tenets, as appeared in the clip, is that to oppose them requires a Statist regime just as oppressive as what they would claim to fight against.
ReplyDeleteSo if I understand you correctly, it is futile to oppose communism. Better Red than American, as it were … ?
ReplyDeleteHow about limited government and maximum liberty for the citizen? State mandated culture is dangerous no matter which end of the spectrum it comes from.
DeleteHEAR! HEAR!
DeleteC I, you've just made the same point I tried to make (in many more words) above. Blind, fanaticism is deadly no matter WHAT cause it purports to serve.
BUT, Marxism, the multi-headed Hydra, and its vile derivatives is a CANCER on the body politic, and somehow -- like all cancers -- it must be burned out, excised, or poisoned to DEATH before it kills the Host.
"Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice."
We always walk a very fine line between sanity and madness, it seems.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
~Jefferson
Leave it to Sammy.
ReplyDeleteAbout the only one capable of conflating Keynes and Stalin.
Cleon is a dope.
You lost the argument before you uttered a word, Canardo, because you can think of nothing better to defend your position than SNEER at ours.
DeleteI'm still curious to know what communism has to do with abstraction.
ReplyDeleteAny of the right wingers here familiar with the relationship between the Leo Castelli gallery and the CIA in the 50's?
The video is a silly screed on so many levels.
Keynes, Stalin and Alinsky. Three who have nothing to do with each other except in Sam's mind.
They had a plan. They implemented it. There was little resistance.
ReplyDeleteHow does it advance a communist agenda to install contemporary public sculpture?
ReplyDeleteDuck,
DeleteI could argue both sides of the question -- and convincingly too.
Do you understand that there are two sides to the argument?
Addendum: Seeing two sides to the argument does not mean that you agree with both sides.
DeleteNo, I can honestly say that I see no relationship between abstract sculpture, public or private, and communism.
DeleteInitially Soviet art was avant-garde but it was purged and replaced by Soviet realism.
In other words, Skousen argues similar to Stalin.
... I might add that hard edge, monumental realism was also the only type of painting accepted by Ayn Rand.
DeleteThe opposition to abstraction seems to come from authoritarians on both sides.
Duck,
DeleteI posit that it is possible that abstract art helps to break down society's appreciation of traditional art forms, which could also be considered standards and appreciation of culture.
I said "possible."
Now, I happen to like some abstract art. But, frankly, some of "the art" that I recently saw at the Hirshhorn Museum was a joke. People get paid for creating such "art"? Gimme a break!
Duck,
DeleteI might add that hard edge, monumental realism was also the only type of painting accepted by Ayn Rand.
Well, she was certainly entitled to whatever personal tastes in art that she had.
Duck,
DeleteDo you find this an interesting conundrum? Relate the following to my blog post today. Excerpt from the link:
...Rand wrote many other works, including an essay on education called “The Comprachicos,” now available in The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution. In it, she discussed the Montessori Method at some length. She also published an article by the late Beatrice Hessen, “The Montessori Method,” in The Objectivist magazine, which article is now reprinted in John Chattin-McNichols’ Montessori Schools in America: Historical, Philosophical and Empirical Research Perspectives.
These two articles introduced millions of Rand’s readers to the Montessori Method and movement – and many of them stayed. I, for one, had been searching since I was a child for a way of schooling which kept the joy in life while guiding students in learning. The Rand and Hessen articles intrigued me and led me to a life-long love for the Method, which included founding Council Oak Montessori school in Chicago. Currently, I am working on a new college using the Method (see www.collegeunitedstates.org).
I do not think I am an exception. You will find Rand’s influence in Montessori schools all around North America, from North Carolina and Pennsylvania to Illinois and Colorado; from Toronto to Texas – and I’m sure almost anywhere you look. ...
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DeleteInteresting is an understatement.
DeleteI'm a pretty big advocate of Montessori. The grand niece attends a Montessori pre-school.
The sculpture discussion now reminds me of the controversy over the Vietnam memorial.
DeleteRoss Perot stirred everyone up and had a conventional statue installed (it isn't really sculpture) while the main monument is a more abstract sculptural work.
The Wall still moves people to tears and the statue is largely ignored.
I'll have to look up that matter about the Vietnam Memorial. I don't recall any such controversy. I wasn't keeping up with politics or the news back then.
DeleteOf course, prior to the building of The Wall, we saw traditional monuments. Now we see such walls quite often. For example, there are numerous victims'-names walls related to 9/11.
Hey, Duck.
DeleteWhat do you think of the Hirshhorn?
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DeleteThis video nailed it. It's a horrible reality.
ReplyDeleteEverything listed has, indeed, made itself manifest and become entrenched in our society. Most certainly the Cultural Marxist Agenda has had a dispiriting, perplexing, degenerative effect. but of course YOU KNOWN THAT, but simply refuse to admit it, because it doesn't suit your nefarious purposes.
ReplyDeleteYou and your kind have nothing to offer but DENIAL and DEFAMATION.
Great great piece.
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ReplyDeleteHow ironic that student riots in Venezuela are undermining the communist regime.
ReplyDeleteAnd we can all agree that communist propaganda has found a ready home in today's Democrat Party. I have two posts up on Venezuela. One is Marco Rubio's speech answering Democrat Senator Tom Harkin's praise for Cuba. Dems will swallow any lie favorable to communism and ignore every truth negative to it.
P.S. AOW: I've got a new post on Islamic terrorism and how blind some are to the real danger...