The reality of the train wreck will not hit until people personally suffer via rape-rate premiums, high deductibles, no maximum-out-of-pocket limits, and reductions in network options.
One example of how devastating a reduction in network options can be: Kaiser, insuring more than 500,000 people in the D.C. area, dumps the five most important hospitals in Northern Virginia.
Thus far, people learn that others are being slammed and sigh with relief: "Well, it's not happening to me. I don't have that particular policy."
Flashback (hat tip to Capitalist Preservation):
The Bull Crap Artist known as Barry “Barack” Hussain Obama has shown us once again that he is the King of incompetence and lies, And the shame of it all is that we knew this before his getting re"elected" for a second term. And now we are dealing with thie implementation of the Horrible Care Act. But this was nothing new, Barry has been lying since 2008.. And the Damn Liberal fools just believe everything that he says, and does. Obama does not have the experience or knowledge to be president, proof again the he is simply an INEPT Community organizer, Period. But damn it, you’d never know it by reading these “progressive” blogs as they portray him as Mr. Wonderful
ReplyDeleteMore proof that the progressive party worships lying, greed, ignorance, and stupidity.
Obamanuts are idiots, they want to save American jobs and then they out source the Obamacare website jobs to a Canadian company and they then bitch about too many jobs going overseas.
What do Obama's approval numbers look like lately?
DeleteI'm waiting to see if my private policy will be canceled. A friend of mine just had his private policy canceled.
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid I just can't go along with the belief that President Obama DELIBERATELY lied about "keeping your plan." I do, however, believe that he meant A MAJORITY would be able to keep their plans. He certainly made a huge mistake by not qualifying that statement. And now he's paying the price, since his enemies are hammering him on this.
ReplyDeleteHe was WRONG when he did that. I guess that Obama thinks we're all stupid. Even I fell for it until I received a letter from my Insurance provider. Even though some of us really are if we believed him. What he should have said was .You could keep your insurance...UNTIL the ACA became law. Then I’m sorry but you're all going to be screwed.
This whole sham has clustershit written all over it. Just wait until the tens of millions us people who have not yet seen it for themselves what the ACA truly is actually sign up for this pile of garbage program .I already received a letter from my insurance provider and here's what I have in front of me, from them:
A policy that is ACA compliant and most closely resembles my current coverage.
The difference? A 120% increase in premiums, and a marked increase in deductibles, co-pays, and out-of-pockets!! For The Same Coverage.
I tell you I am so freaken angry I can hardly see straight. This Goddamn freaken moronic a-hole sorry excuse for a President.
He sounds more and more like a snake oil salesman and credibility is falling faster than Miley Cyrus' panties, except with the ones who are completely Brain-Washed.
And Speaking of idiots...
You “Progressives” “Libertarians” and “Liberals” really can't comprehend that Obama lied to you, can you?
Cult members are blind to the facts.
DeleteObamaCare will hit even employer-based policies hard in 2015. See Got Employer Provided Health Insurance? Just Wait Until Next Year.
As I recall the plan was to get rid of all advantage plans starting 2014 but delayed it a year because of the fall out that would impact the election. Still there are some that are affected.
ReplyDeleteMr. AOW has a Medicare Advantage plan. It has worked very well for him.
ReplyDeleteObama’s pledge that ‘no one will take away your health plan.
ReplyDeletePresident Obama, speech to the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009
“And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn’t happened yet. It won’t happen in the future.”
Meanwhile, in the Republican weekly address on Aug. 24, 2009, Rep. Tom Price a doctor, made this point: “On the stump, the president regularly tells Americans that ‘if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.’ But if you read the bill, that just isn’t so. For starters, within five years, every health-care plan will have to meet a new federal definition for coverage — one that your current plan might not match, even if you like it.”
We need some perspective here, folks. When a statement is accurate for 90% of cases, the most severe words usually applied are "overstated" or "oversimplified." Is the President guilty of oversimplification here? Absolutely! To be sure, I'd personally call it a mild oversimplification, considering that he was countering an equally simplistic mantra that "Obamacare is a socialist government takeover of healthcare," which is 0% accurate and thus truly a lie (and indeed a whopper of a lie!) . The bottom line is that Democrats are Obamazombies who automatically not only believe, but supports everything he says and does.
I'll patiently await the circus of insults from the left.....
You found my stamp. Now I want it back.
ReplyDeleteIf I remember correctly, not one Republican in Congress (both Houses) supported this abomination. How about adding to the ACA a REPUBLICAN EXCLUSION CLAUSE which exempts any and all registered Republicans who elect not to participate? OK,OK-FAT CHANCE!
ReplyDeleteLooks like the Wicked Witch of progressivism is playing games with you AOW, she now is imitating your avatar and using your name in her vile blog.
ReplyDeleteI found what you mentioned.
DeleteAnd you know what? I don't have time for such silly games.
Furthermore, there's no reasoning with a sick mind.
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ReplyDeleteMaybe after that bastard is impeached, we can actually have that stamp made. Hopefully it's the ONLY legacy he gets!
ReplyDeleteWhy are these Liberal posters always so stupid?
ReplyDeleteI just came back from reading a progressives blog, and all I can say is that after years of reading their hated and contemp for Bush, Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, et al, you would think that they would be upset and disgruntled about the current “Presidential Administration” and the long list of LIES, SCANDALS, CHEATING, and COVER-UP that have been going on for the past five yests, but NO, they are not. Could this be a sign of Hypocrisy? And if not then it makes me pause and think. If you tell your wife that she looks wonderful today, and she is 50 pounds over weight, and has the wrinkles on her face of 80 year p\old when she is only 45, does that mean you are a hypocrite? If so, guess I, too, must wear the label of a hypocrite !
My conclusion of Obama is clearly that of a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE!
Progressives are so afraid of losing ground that they won’t admit that no matter what the case may be. They are so enamored of their “principles” they own them.
I’d argue that the only “principle” progressives have is their loyalty, their unquestioned Pragmatism! The Progressive college must be the tiniest college ever..
We have been betrayed by the Treasonous Propaganda Main Stream Media and the Democrat Party, there is simply no if’s, and’s or but’s about it. They have sold their souls to the devil for the opportunity to turn America into their sick and twisted idea of a Marxist Utopia.
All this crap about the Shut-Down of the Government is just an Administration distraction. They want the attention off the mess The mess that Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Obama made about Benghazi. This is not going to be another Joke to be made on the Letterman show
If you have cheap ass insurances that won't cover everything...why should I pay for you when you get sick?
DeleteObama is an affront to the Office of the President of the United States. There is a new book out that exposes just how very unfit he really is for this Offlice. It's entitled. IMPEACHABLE OFFENCES: THE CASE FOR REMOVING BARACK OBAMA FROM OFFICE BY Aaron Klein and Brend J. Elliott. Furthermore, there is alo an on line petition to have Obama impeached it's the internet site teaparty.org
ReplyDeleteWalter,
ReplyDeleteWhile I couldn't agree with you more, do these "on line" petitions have any force or effect? I've read that they don't; just asking.
We got a letter from BCBS a month or so ago, well from our insurance agent actually. It was not "the letter" cancelling our policy. My hubby has covered us oth under a private contractor (whatever) policy. He worked his last day in the ER last Thursday. So our situation has changed and we will have to purchase individual policies rather than our 'group' policy. My hubby talked to him and was advised that we could get another BCBS with similar coverage for less starting January 1. I won't start cheering until it actually happens. My hubby was shocked and is in 'wait and see' mode also.
ReplyDeleteDebbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com
ReplyDeleteThey're still at it.....
Special Investigation: How Insurers Are Hiding Obamacare Benefits From Customers:
"Donna received the letter canceling her insurance plan on Sept. 16. Her insurance company, LifeWise of Washington, told her that they'd identified a new plan for her. If she did nothing, she'd be covered.
A 56-year-old Seattle resident with a 57-year-old husband and 15-year-old daughter, Donna had been looking forward to the savings that the Affordable Care Act had to offer.
But that's not what she found. Instead, she'd be paying an additional $300 a month for coverage. The letter made no mention of the health insurance marketplace that would soon open in Washington, where she could shop for competitive plans, and only an oblique reference to financial help that she might qualify for, if she made the effort to call and find out...."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/d...
What really matters is what happens to the people who are receiving those cancelation letters that congressional Republicans have been parading in front of the cameras?
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line: Almost all of them are going to receive the same or much better coverage, and many of them are going to receive financial help to purchase it.
About 80 percent of people, those who receive insurance through their employer or are already enrolled in a government program, won't experience any change at all, Gruber said. (The Kaiser Family Foundation puts the number at 79 percent).
Another 14 percent are currently uninsured people who will now be able to get covered because of the Affordable Care Act, Gruber said. (Kaiser pegs it at 16 percent uninsured). How many of those actually get covered depends on a few variables -- like whether Republicans states come around and expand Medicaid -- but that's the share that stands to gain.
So then you have 6 percent who might receive a cancellation letter (Kaiser says the individual market is 5 percent). Of those, Gruber argued, about half aren't really going to see a change: They'll technically enroll in a new plan, but it'll be very similar to what they already had.
That leaves 3 percent who will have to buy significantly different plans, some of whom might have to pay more for them (at least before the law's tax credits and other financial assistance kick in).
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/what-happens-to-people-whose-insurance-is-cancelled-because-of-obamacare
We call ourselves “progressive” and thereby avoid the notorious “liberal” label. According to one definition, progressive means “favoring progress toward better conditions”. Gee, who could be against that? But then what do we do when the Republicans or the corporate media make “progressive” a term of derision? Change names again? I believe that running away from the “progressive” label is somewhat similar to that: By running away from that label we are tacitly admitting that the conservatives are right to denigrate the term. So what? I’ll tell you So What! Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that He defied hated and crucified Him. That’s What!
ReplyDeleteIf the principles of liberalism could be summed up in a short paragraph it would be this:
Liberals believe in the sacredness of human beings, regardless of their race, gender, nationality, religious beliefs, sexual preference, etc. They therefore believe that all people should have the opportunity for a good life, and they are willing to question and challenge the status quo if they believe that is necessary in order to afford people that opportunity. Consequently, they believe strongly in the individual protections given to us in the first ten Amendments to our Constitution (which conservatives also claim to revere). There is no Conservative worthy of the name who can possibly "approve" this sort of crap. Conservative are Vultures!
Unsolicited Analysis:
ReplyDelete1. President Obama wasn't entirely right in 2009 when he said that if you like your health care plan, then you can keep it.
This means that President Obama was lying. Not spin, not misspeaking … he was lying. Let me ask, does anyone think it is a mere coincidence that the bill became law in 2010, but wasn’t scheduled for implementation until AFTER the general election of 2014? If anyone thinks this, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
2. The bottom line: Almost all of them are going to receive the same or much better coverage, and many of them are going to receive financial help to purchase it.
This means that the American taxpayer will fund health insurance for people who can’t afford it, which as it turns out, is almost everyone. What is the point in enrolling in a health insurance program that doubles your monthly cost, and triples your annual deductible. How does this really improve health care in the United States? Hint: it doesn’t.
3. As Jonathan Gruber, the MIT professor who oversaw Massachusetts health reform and is therefore as close as we have to a true veteran of a dramatic insurance overhaul, told the New Yorker, it's only a small percentage (3 percent, to be precise) of Americans who you can really argue might at least potentially get screwed.
Do you mean the Jonathon Gruber who never once held a job in the private sector? The Jonathon Gruber that has never worked outside of the academic (read this as theoretical) environment? That Jonathon Gruber? Get real, people. And stop laughing and slapping your thigh about the woman who is dying of cancer and now has no one to pay her bills.
Too may windy a$$holes posting here today. PHEW!
ReplyDeleteNo sense in trying to reason with anyone in such a septic environment.
I do appreciate the "commemorative" stamp. Very funny in a wry, tragic, enervating sort of way.
ReplyDeleteFT,
ReplyDelete'Too may windy a$$holes posting here today. PHEW!
No sense in trying to reason with anyone in such a septic environment"
Would it be asking too much from you, then, to provide us with YOUR words of enlightenment?
Just a curious a$$hole
Money quote from yesterday's WaPo:
ReplyDelete“I pay my taxes. I’m assistant chief of the volunteer fire department here in Cedar River and a first responder for Mid-County Rescue,” Prestin said. “You try to be personally accountable and play by the rules, but the more you play by the rules, the more you get beat up on.”
Possibly of interest (at CNN): Obamacare 'War Room' docs: We're concerned next media story is some consumers getting on website and finding fewer options, higher prices.
ReplyDeleteThe world wallows in ignorance. Some are intentionally ignorant. Theprice to pay for that ignorance is very steep indeed!
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Delete"Honi soit qui mal y pense," Jon Berg.
ReplyDeleteAlso: "If the shoe fits ..."
Are you so paranoid -- and so unaware of who I really am after all this time -- that you would imagine I had YOU in mind?
If so, perhaps you deserve the odious appellation after all? Personally, I never thought so, but I've detected unwarranted antagonism in you before. That's all right. It says more about you than it does me.
I am antagonistic only towards deceit, deliberate cruelty, spite, cynicism, Marxism in all its many and varied forms, and flamboyant displays of ignorance, stupidity, and ill humor.
Verbal diarrhea is every bit as undesirable as the the common variety. Verily it reeketh. ;-)
Well FT ... I guess that makes you a hypocrite, then ... you are guilty of all of those odious shortcomings. You call yourself a friend to the blog owner, but you pollute her blog with your filthy four letter words. Not much of a friend, if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteRarely does FT use four letter words here.
DeleteRobert,
DeleteAddendum...An administrator, one of the three here, deleted the offending comments. I contacted FT about the comments.
Anger levels are running high in the blogosphere, and those levels seem to have increased since the 2012 National Election.
Christie is another Romney, except with a biger, and nastier, mouth. His kind of crap no longer fools the voting base.
ReplyDeleteI think Clinton, if she decides to run, she would beat him badly.
Jon Stewart RIPS Obama (video)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIHhmLNjS8c#t=14
Surprise, Surprise... Media Lying to Us About Another 'Obamacare' Horror Story (Video)
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/surprise-surprise-media-lying-us-about-ano
Hey Gerry,
ReplyDeleteWho do you choose; just asking?