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Monday, January 29, 2018

Timeless Twain — And An Important Question

Wisdom for our times — maybe for all time!

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John Adams put a similar sentiment this way:


But this question keeps occurring to me...

What happens to a nation when so many of her citizens lose faith in their representatives' ability to govern?

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  3. What happens? We transform from One Nation Under God to a land with a bunch of competing tribes squatting on it.

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    2. ...or we become the dictatorial Empire that Rome became after the Republic failed.

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    3. Brutus tried to take Rome back to the Republic. We all know how THAT turned out.

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    5. FT,
      I believe the antidote to be a true REVIVAL of devotion to First Principles –– a retrn to faith in Almught God's Truth and Justice.

      We have no info-media-academia complex to promote that. Indeed, that complex is pushing in the opposite direction -- and succeeding in doing so.

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    6. FJ,
      Brutus tried to take Rome back to the Republic. We all know how THAT turned out.

      Grim point -- but a point well taken. **sigh**

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    8. From the Catholic Encyclopedia

      Pelagianism received its name from Pelagius and designates a heresy of the fifth century, which denied original sin as well as Christian grace.

      Traditional Mainline Protestant theology also condemns Pelagianism.

      I don't know how this relates to what we are facing today.

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  5. Americans have never had faith in their government. They “go along” because they have only limited say in government.

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  6. I believe the last I read, only about a third wanted to separate from the Brits at the time of the revolution. This whole thing has been an uphill battle.

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    2. You mean the British tyranny of being arrested without due process, thrown in a hole, and starved to death without trial?

      Are you unaware of rhe various grievances catalogued in the Declaration of Independence?

      Shut up you flippin' idiot.

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    3. @ TC
      That was uncalled for. You're quickly becoming the 9" prick in the old joke.

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    4. The concept of a Republic - Democracy doesn't have a very long track record. About three hundred years just about does it. Freedom and so called "Rights" apparently aren't enough to do it.

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    6. Whoopsy. Did I spank the favored moron again?

      "Think about it." I did. Whatever Marxist tyrannies conspire under FT's bed are NOTHING compared to the very real history of colonial America.

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    8. @TC:
      "Whoopsy. Did I spank the favored moron again?"
      You know that daddy likes you bestest.

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    10. @Anon:
      You have no idea what my priorities are, don't flatter yourself.

      I delete whatever I choose, sometimes totally and sometimes leaving the fact that a comment was made; as you've undoubtedly found out by now.

      Our (AOW and me) mantra is, OUR BLOG OUR RULES. If you can't live with it, hit the road. If you wish to contact me privately to discuss the matter I can arrange that.

      In the meantime I'm trying to keep this from devolving further.

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    1. Has anyone verified TC isn't just some grade-schooler who broke into mommy's laptop?

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    2. I don't even know your mother, Silverfiddle. Does she attend my grade school?

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  9. I knew I could easily goad you into a "your mother" insult.

    heh heh heh... You're too predictable to the point of boredom.

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    1. Says the guy fumbling for the favored moron.

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    2. Bravo!

      We're waiting for you to employ the old "I know you are but what am I" coup de grace. That'll really show us.

      Or maybe you could set us back on our heels with the "Liar, Liar Pants of Fire!" gambit.

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    3. I have no opinions on your homoerotic urges.

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    4. He's on a roll, folks. The towering intellect and originality of thought displayed is staggering. I don't know how much more we can stand before crowning Beamish the King of all internets.

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    5. No. It's just the triggered little boy lashing out trying to look big act wears thin after awhile.

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    6. So you'll stop crying about FT getting smacked down?

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    7. Put on your reading glasses, Gramps and try saying something relevant to the thread.

      You are a stream of non-sequitur diarrhea.

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    8. Relevancy to this thread would indeed by refreshing.

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    9. So your crying about FT getting smacked down isn't relevant anymore?

      Good.

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    10. TC,

      Pajama Boy will be around to change your depends and determine if you are hallucinating, or if its just your eyeglass prescription.

      Your agitation is especially acute (and funny) today. you might want to cut down on daytime TV and get outside.

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    12. The above comment deleted for violation of comment guidelines here...

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    13. All the personal invective in this thread has taken this thread way off the rails. Sheesh.

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    14. Perhaps you should rethink co-blogging with a retard. Your call. He seems rather obsessed with personally attacking me.

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    15. TC,
      Nah. SF is not a retard. Assuming that you mean SF and not Warren, that is.

      Sure, the two of you disagree about certain matters. That should be no big deal, IMO. As for the attacks, they have pretty much been tit for tat. It seems to me that there has been quite enough obsession to go around -- and more than once.

      Look. You and I go back several years, Beamish. Let's just let things be for a while. Really, enough is enough. We all have other things to do -- or, at least, I do.

      The last three days have been hell on wheels for me. I'm not referring to blogging but rather to health matters (Mr. AOW's and mine). I'd whine about getting older if the whining would make anything better.

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  10. @FY - I believe the antidote to be a true REVIVAL of devotion to First Principles –– a retrn to faith in Almught God's Truth and Justice.
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    We had one. Religious leaders aligned with business in opposition to the New Deal (that's when Billy Graham got his start). William Buckley fired the first mainstream salvo with God and Man at Yale which laid the foundation for conservative discontent and indivisibly linked laissez-faire capitalism and fundamentalism.
    White male supremacy had its standard bearer.

    Now the right fights the culture war which is largely about controlling people's sexuality and smashing any remnant of the social welfare state.
    They have been quite successful at one goal - creating an under class.

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    1. I'll grant you one thing: You have fertile (if fevered) imagination.

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    2. In the spirit of never allowing a crisis go to waste, FDRs new deal was a communist grab for absolute power; any responsible American should have resisted. Ducky's understanding of almost everything is underwhelming.

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    3. Not to mention Billy Graham was too busy desegregating Baptist seminaries and proposing taxpayer funded public education at the time in question.

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    4. Public funded education really means public funded brainwashing.

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    5. You're correct, Beamish. His position on integration was pretty solid.

      But don't try to tell me he was supporting public schools after prayer was removed. He wanted all hints of Darwin removed and implementation of a conservative indoctrination that would have made even Sam happy.

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    6. I do not believe Ducky's head will ever explode, but implosion is a real possibility: his cranium is a sinkhole just waiting to happen. He also offers irrefutable evidence that Hillary Clinton was right all along: it does take a village to raise an idiot. I do not favor public education because of the overwhelming evidence that it doesn't work. After twelve years of public funded education, the United States excels in only one thing: producing the world's least educated young people. How anyone can support this notion defies logic. Parents should decide where their children are educated; publicly funded schools should not be one of those choices. That said, there is a role for government in education, which is to suggest a range of "state approved" instructional materials for use in private schools/academies. This will ensure that students aren't being taught how to remove the heads of infidels with mommy's kitchen knife during recess. Ducky doesn't "get this" of course because the only thing he hears inside his head is an echo echo echo.

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  11. At least 25 to 30 years separation between Billy Graham's Baptists pushing for public education and Madelyn Murray O'Hair pushing for snowflakism.

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  12. Without Southern Baptists there would be no Ku Klux Klan.

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    1. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Southern Baptist, you flippin' idiot.

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    2. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Southern Baptist, you flippin' idiot.

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    3. The KKK bombed and burned Southern Baptist churches, dumbass.

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    4. Actually TC... MLK was dually aligned with the National Baptist Convention and the American Baptist Convention. The Southern Baptist group split from the Northern Baptist Convention [later called American Baptists] over the issue of appointing slave owners as missionaries. It took the Southern Baptists til 1995 to formally renounce their previous slave approving stance.

      The National Baptist Convention, historically black, also counts MLK as one of their own.

      But history shows MLK was never part of the Southern Baptist Convention.

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    5. ...except for all those guest lectures he gave at invitation in classrooms at the SBTS in Louisville years before the Civil Rights Act even passed.

      Do you even history, bruh?

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    6. Well TC... he received those invites because since he was not a member of the SBC, an easily verifiable fact, that was the only way he could guest lecture.

      You stated MLK was a Southern Baptist, which in short hand means he was part of that denomination. He wasn't. Period.

      Bruh... you were just wrong.

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    7. So, the KKK invited MLK to speak?

      Dude, you're confused.

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  13. Without the Democratic Party, there would be no Klu Klux Klan ...

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    1. Eric Jacobsen said

      The idiot who first decided to buy African natives, put 'em in chains, and ship 'em to the western hemisphere to do the heavy lifting was responsible for the rise of the KKK. Bad ideas produce chain reactions that make things worse and worse. his sins of that fathers have been visited on the sins for cuntless generations to come; tha's for darned certain sure.

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    2. So, Catholic Spaniards?

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    3. Without "Bible believing" Baptists there would be no Ku Klux Klan. Christian fundamentalists don't like blacks and Jews,

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    4. @ SPLC, I'm calling bull$hit! You just want to smear Christian fundamentalists.

      Sounds like projection to me.

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    5. I recall the KKK was dead and buried until the Progressive Woodrow Wilson reasurected it with federal patronages.

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    6. ...and if you want to find the Klan now seek out a left-wing ACLU branch lawyer's client list, or road trip to the lefty Pacific Northwest with your domestic partner.

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    7. Are you averring all those klansmen were atheists? Do you claim they don't hate Jews and black? Perhaps you have some groundbreaking historical research?

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    8. "Are you averring all those klansmen were atheists?"

      NO, just typical Democrats of the time period. Now they are mostly atheists. Progressives, Demos, got to change with the times or they won't be Progressives anymore. They already have a following of NAMBLA and Jihadist types.

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    9. Arland Speckulator said

      Eric Jacobsen mde an excellent point. I think he nailed it.

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