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Sunday, October 18, 2015

Debate Synopsis

About the October 14, 2015 Democratic Party Presidential debate:

49 comments:

  1. Scoop Jackson Democrats like Webb are rarer than hens teeth.

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    1. Democrats haven't really been Democrats since Woodrow Wilson initiated the Income Tax and the Federal Reserve and FDR foisted The New Deal on a still-largely-innocent and naive nation.

      Whether the The Party of Ever-Expanding Government accepts the designation or not, they are in truth MARXICRATS and that is no exaggeration.

      I call them TYRANNISTS –– a good umbrella term for all the various movements and "umbrella" term that covers all the various "Liberation and Reform Movements" and "isms" that subscribe to Collectivist, Redistributionist views and Utopian schemes.

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  2. From this 2010 essay about Jim Webb:

    Jim Webb went to the White House last September. The Virginia senator was meeting with the president to discuss Guantanamo detainees. The conversation soon shifted to healthcare. "I told him this was going to be a disaster," Webb recalls. "The president believed it was all going to work out."

    Democratic leaders broadly believed it was all going to work out. The stimulus, healthcare, cap and trade. Americans were to come around to the left side.


    Webb seems to identify himself as a Reagan Democrat and an FDR Democrat.

    Webb represents an endangered species. It's more than his red state Democratic stature, although that would be reason enough. The moderate House Democratic coalition lost more than half its lawmakers last week. But that Blue Dog set is still more common than Webb.

    Webb's one of the last FDR Democrats. An economic populist. A national security hawk. His Democratic politics are less concerned with social groups than social equality (of opportunity, not outcome). His values were predominant in the Democrat Party from FDR to JFK, the period in the twentieth century when Democrats were also dominant.

    Webb walks to this older Democratic beat. Today's Democrats' are more McGovern than JFK. (Could a John Kennedy win the Democratic nomination today?)
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  3. Meet the last of the moderate Democrats.

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  4. Jim Webb was the only person on that stage qualified to be president.

    Unfortunately, he has no chance in today's radical leftwing Democrat party. All the candidates bowing down to the #Black Live Matter credo was a great example.

    First off, the questioner posed it as an either/or: Do black lives matter, or do all lives matter?

    As a catchphrase, we all get it, but to pitch it at a major presidential debate...

    If it were Jebby Bush v. Jim Webb, I would vote for the Democrat (the real one, not Bush)

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    1. SF,
      First off, the questioner posed it as an either/or: Do black lives matter, or do all lives matter?

      The either-or logic fallacy. How many Americans even know that that particular fallacy is?

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    2. I can see where some blacks who want focus on there issues see "all lives matter" (a reasonable position) as a threat to the focus they want on their issue. A watering down, an insult that says that their concern is secondary or negligible,
      Not that I care.

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    3. I understand your affinity for Webb as a national defense hawk, but conservative that you are, how do you rationalize your support for an economic progressive?

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    4. Americans who are treating the issue honestly know that oppressive policing is primarily an issue in black communities.
      There is a problem and this "all lives matter" whitewash trivializes it.

      You know that and I know that.

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    5. "Oppressive policing" is the new catch phrase for "enforcement of laws we don't like".

      The democrats are too busy ignoring laws to enforce anything already on the books. Hence, "Don't ask, don't tell"... "Sanctuary Cities"... "Prosecutorial Discretion Executive Orders"... etc.

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    6. Hey ducky, where's Bernie going to get the next $18 trillion to cover Bernie's campaign promises?...

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    7. I understand your affinity for Webb as a national defense hawk, but conservative that you are, how do you rationalize your support for an economic progressive?

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    8. Ed,
      For me, it is always pick the least bad one available.

      No one is ideologically pure.

      As I've commented in other threads, it's academic anyway. No way the DNC Politburo picks Webb.

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  5. I cannot see how a man like Webb can be considered a qualified candidate, if he is so blind as to not see the company he presently keeps is basically a communist front group.
    https://soundcloud.com/your-voice-your-ad/yvya-real-voice-of-ed-recalcu

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    1. Ed,
      Webb will not be the nominee. IMO, he won't be the Veep nominee, either.

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    2. Precisely. And he is so delusional as to not see that?

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    3. He's trying to reinvigorate his political career when it is clear he should just become a lobbyist for arms and gun manufacturers.

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    4. "Arms and Gun" manufactures? Why would you support a candidate who so blatantly lies about the PLCAA and the "Australian model"?

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    5. Because guns aren't the only element in my world view.

      Fact remains that Webb is not drawing any attention.
      He should just go out to pasture at K street where they give him plenty of money to play the ponies and write more mediocre books.

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    6. He writes about what he knows. Sounds like a good reason to make him President.

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    7. It's not about guns Ducky......it's about liberty and integrity. I surmise those aren't in your worldview either.

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    8. I can assure you that liberty and integrity are important to me.

      However, you're going to have to move in pretty mysterious ways to demonstrate that the proliferation of guns in America has anything to do with either.

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    9. Address the lies that Clinton uttered, and the lack of integrity therein.....and I'll respond to your fantasy of 'proliferation'.

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  6. How many minutes did the poor fellow even get? It was a staged planned event ushering the anointing of the Hildabeast.

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    1. How many minutes did he get? 15:35, Hillary got 31:05, and Bernie got 28;05. At least according to the NYT. O'Malley got 17:56 and Chafee only talked for 9:11.

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    2. He did better than Kasich during the regressive's debate.

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    3. Webb was there to offer the illusion to the public that the Democratic "frame" extended much further to the right than it actually does.

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    4. ...the illusion that the DNC's "center" isn't to Karl Marx's Left.

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    5. Nostradumbass scribbled: "regressive's debate" while the president jug-head crowd wants a return to Woodrow Wilson politics including interment camps for those that disagree and an acknowledgement that the government knows what is best for you.

      In the mean time, Nostradumbass and Bernie Sanders kneel to their shrine of "Walter Duranty of Moscow" and pray for another October 1917 revolution.

      Regressive indeed

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    6. And, Warren, because you've been a really bad boy you get a FEMA trailer loaded with formaldehyde and we won't let you play with guns.

      You might want to tone it down.

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    7. I might want to tone it down or what, stupid?

      Will you pull your rusty Colt Python out from under the matress where you keep it hid and shoot yourself in the rhetorical foot again?

      Let's see, abortion, gun confiscation and free stuff for everyone! Boy, there's a bunch of brand new democrap stuff. And for being such a good little commie bastard you get the order of the rusty bedsprings.

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    8. Duck,
      Good grief!

      Insulting an administrator of this blog is not a smart move.

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  7. My mind kept going back to this fact last night as I watched the Democrat debate on CNN. To be honest, I’m not totally sure why I watched it. Clearly, a person must have some serious psychological issues if they elect to spend an evening with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton , and the rest of that dumb looking Gerratric bunch. It’s like choosing to be mentally water boarded for two and a half hours. Only a troubled person, or another progressive idiot would willingly subject himself to such torment. I’ll be making an appointment with a therapist later today.

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  8. Love how tbaggers prove themselves to be even more stupid as elections approach.

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    1. Well there's a cogent, well-reasoned comment.

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    2. Ed,
      I usually remove This One's comments.

      However, this particular comment made me guffaw -- especially when I read your response.

      I am amused.

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    3. Any comment on Danny "M"s incisive analysis?

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    4. This One,

      I would also question the intelligence of anyone who believes the Democrat Party primary is anything other than a coronation in disguise.

      Bernie Sanders is boob bait for Bolsheviks. The DNC super delegates will never let him win, nor will the moneyed global oligarchs who who fund the DNC progressive machine.

      In Danny M's defense, what is the average age of the Democrat field?

      140?

      But seriously, it is over 70. Old people with old ideas, that is today's Democrat Party.

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    5. The GOP race is wide open this year. The DNC race.... not so much. :)

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    6. "Cynical" and "fear mongering" must be in the DNC talking points this week, since This One (which must be his IQ) can't provide any examples to back up his wild claims.

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    7. SF,
      "This One" is off his meds. Or something.

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  9. boob bait for Bolsheviks.
    Very good, SF. Speaking of boobs... Will Biden, or won't he?

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  10. I cannot see how a man like Webb can be considered a qualified candidate, if he is so blind as to not see the company he presently keeps is basically a communist front group.
    https://soundcloud.com/your-voice-your-ad/yvya-real-voice-of-ed-recalcu

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  12. Did anyone else notice that Ms. Hilton has apparently undergone laser resurfacing and facial sculpting? smile

    I also note that the debate had more the feel of a frat party. The questions were light-hearted and somewhat silly.

    Tammy

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