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Thursday, March 12, 2015

Hillary's Supporters And Obama's Birth Certificate

Think of this blog post as a Throwback Thursday post. I am not "a birther."

From the Telegraph (dated April 27, 2011): "Birther row began with Hillary Clinton: The lie that Barack Obama was not born in the US has been fuelled by fringe Republicans — but supporters of Hillary Clinton, now Mr Obama’s Secretary of State, are largely to blame for starting it" by Jon Swaine.

Entire article, in case you don't have a subscription to the Telegraph (emphasis mine):
False rumours about Mr Obama’s background first surfaced in 2004, in Illinois, where he was a state senator. Andy Martin, a perennial local candidate and litigant, claimed Mr Obama was secretly Muslim.

Related theories — including that he was radicalised in a “madrassa” in Indonesia — developed after Mr Obama entered the national stage with a speech to the Democratic National Convention later that year.

In 2005, Mr Obama went to Washington as the junior US senator for Illinois. The rumours about him persisted, but seemingly failed to take hold among political insiders and voters alike.

It was not until April 2008, at the height of the intensely bitter Democratic presidential primary process, that the touch paper was properly lit.

An anonymous email circulated by supporters of Mrs Clinton, Mr Obama’s main rival for the party’s nomination, thrust a new allegation into the national spotlight — that he had not been born in Hawaii.


“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy,” it said. “She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth.”
Then in August 2008 Phil Berg, an ex-deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania and a renowned conspiracy theorist, filed a lawsuit alleging that Mr Obama was ineligible to be a candidate.

“Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States. United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1,” it said.

By then, the Obama campaign had posted a copy of his “certificate of live birth” — a shorter version of the birth certificate, which is accepted as proof of birth from applicants for a US passport.

But the fact it was not the full, original certificate — and that the campaign failed to show the serial number and other details in their scan — meant that the conspiracy theorists were unbowed.

The director of the Hawaii health department stated that she had seen the full certificate and that it was all in order. Entries from the birth records sections of two local newspapers from the time were found.

Yet still some were unconvinced, explaining away this extra evidence, and demanding to see the full certificate, which Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital said it could not release.

After Mr Obama’s election victory and inauguration, the conspiracy theory survived, albeit quietly. Crudely fake Kenyan birth certificates purporting to prove it were circulated, and more lawsuits about Mr Obama’s birth were filed.

It was not until last month, and the emergence of the property tycoon Donald Trump as a potential Republican presidential candidate, that the issue was thrust back into national prominence.

Mr Trump outed himself as a “birther” in an interview on his private jet on March 17. “The reason I have a little doubt — just a little — is because he grew up and nobody knew him,” he told ABC News.

Over the following weeks, Mr Trump reiterated his comments repeatedly. He added a string of further allegations, including that Mr Obama’s grandmother had recalled witnessing his birth in Kenya, which were simply not true.

While insisting that the media was forcing him to talk about the subject, Mr Trump eventually resurrected the demand for Mr Obama to produce his full birth certificate.

Last week a poll suggested almost half of Republican voters believed the president was not born in the US. It appears to have convinced the White House that it was time to act.
THIS is the White House's official position about Hillary Clinton's use of a private server.

Additional reading: THE HUMA INITIATIVE: Hillary's Two Top Aides, Including HUMA ABEDIN, Also Used Private Servers - And What That Means. AND NOW FOR PASTORIUS' SPECULATION. Excerpt:
Could it be Hillary actually had something on Obama with this Birth Certificate thing?

Could it be that Obama actually has something equally damaging on Hillary, say, like Bill Clinton's Pedophile Island vacations (which also conveniently came out recently)?

Can one reasonably imagine any other kind of working arrangement between these two vindictive monomaniacs other than a truce by Mutually Assured Destruction?
Read it all HERE.

Hillary Clinton's ludicrous explanation about her private server is leading to a lot speculation, and Pastorius may or may not be accurate with this speculation.

The truth may never see the light of day.

23 comments:

  1. I am not a birther either. There are hospital records and a contemporaneous birth announcement in the local paper there. I do wonder if this stemmed from a young Obama passing himself off as an Indonesian or African Muslim to get into prestigious universities.

    Obama offered Hillary Sec State to neutralize her, just as he offered Petraeus the CIA job to quash any rumblings of the general pulling an Eisenhower and running for president.

    Hillary's clandestine server was classic Clinton. They are political gut fighters with a siege mentality, so setting up her own server was a natural outgrowth of that. She and people like her believe they are above the law.

    I don't think she or Obama 'have' anything on one another, and I doubt there was anything damning in any of her e-mails. She and people like her are sly and way to savvy to leave fingerprints. If, as the conspiracy theorists believe, she issued some kind of 'stand down' order the night of the Benghazi attacks, there is no way she would do it with a personally-attributable unclassified e-mail.

    The outrage of her clandestine server is that she put herself outside the organization she led, eschewing the safeguards and rules everyone else was subject to. And yes, it all stems form her Clintonesque lust for power and control and a craven, paranoid need for secrecy.

    And millions of good little mallet-heads like Jersey McJones are raring to vote for her.

    How may conservatives would cast another vote for Bush or Cheney, if that were possible? At present, conservatives are learning lessons much faster that libs, who still stubbornly cling to their progressive dogma and political heroes.

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    1. SF,
      Do you happen to know if Hillary Clinton used a private server when she served as the U.S. Senator from New York?

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  2. libs simply do not care about honesty or decency at all my friend..the beat goes on!!!

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    1. AOW, that's a damn pant load.

      I don't know who the bimbo is that doesn't believe leftists care about truth and decency but you shame yourself agreeing with such abject nonsense.

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  3. The 'read it all HERE' link is a must read. He adroitly link Obama's anti-colonialist stance with his national socialism position. If this were 1935 Germany he'd be agitating to reclaim his rights and goods from the Jews among us.

    Not surprised to learn Hillary's camp spread gave the birther rumor legs.

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  4. No one but right wingers care about whether Obama was born in the US or about Hillary Clinton's server.

    JMJ

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    1. Yeah, who gives a rat's ass about the Constitution or 44USC31? What difference does it make? Unless of course it's a Republican, right?

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    2. The Constitution deals with e-mail?

      Please explain.
      Is something else hidden in the 2nd amendment?

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  5. JMJ,
    No one but right wingers care about whether Obama was born in the US

    Maybe not now. But earlier? Please read the Telegraph link in the blog post before issuing your salvos. That's what responsible commenters do, JMJ.

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    1. JMJ,
      It is also not true that No one but right wingers care about...Hillary Clinton's server. Read any number of mainstream newspapers over the past several days.

      In other words, GET A CLUE!

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    2. THE AP is SUING the State Dept for Hillary's emails.
      The NY Times is the one which first did this story.
      RIGHTWINGERS? please...........
      AOW, you're right, of course,

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  6. I'm not going to bitterly cling to labels such as birthers. All I care about is getting to the truth behind these LIARS whose lies the subservient press has managed to hide from the public so far. Is the fawning period over... we'll see.

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    1. Cube,
      The press has been selective in the extreme as to what they cover with regard to Obama. Now, why is that?

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  7. Birther? Smells like a rat, acts like a rat, hides like a rat...
    Just because the term is a pejorative doesn't mean there's not a reason to be skeptical of this president's origins.
    But what is clearly documented should have disqualified him, not from office, but election.

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    1. That's what the Left does, Ed....make a term utterly pejorative and they win.
      Very effective; Saul Alinsky all the way; Hillary's hero, remember?

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    2. Ed and Z,
      Orwellian and also reminiscent of The Manchurian Candidate -- and, yes, Alinsky, too.

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    3. There's good reason to be skeptical about the birther motives also, Ed.

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    4. If you mean politics or generally conspiracy-nut proclivities, ok.
      I hope you're not pulling the race card.

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  8. As I stated in the body of this blog post, I do not classify myself as a birther. However, there is much that seems to have been obscured about Obama -- including but not limited to his post-secondary education years.

    What is clear is the record of what Obama has done and said since he took office in 2009.

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    1. Exactly.
      If nothing else he has since disqualified himself for the presidency by his actions.

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