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Thursday, March 17, 2022

"Dezinformatsiya"


Silverfiddle Rant!


"That's the problem in America, is there is one view, one true opinion and everybody else can go sit in the corner" 
-- Bill Maher



Bad news for Medical Faucism and the Branch Covidian cult: 
Seven in 10 people agreed with the statement “It’s time we accept that Covid is here to stay and we just need to get on with our lives” in a recent Monmouth University poll. Acceptance of the virus as a part of normal life varied by political affiliation, with 89% of Republicans agreeing versus 71% of independents and 47% of Democrats
Karol Markowicz sums it up perfectly:  


The jig is almost up for the petty dictators who have herded, shamed and tortured us these past two years.  Most egregious is how they abused our nation's children. They will look us in the eye and tell us they never said what they said.  They'll try to save their asses but it won't work.  When the hypnotic spell is broken, furious true believers will burn down the kebab stand. 

"Disinformation" is the hot topic on the corporate-sponsored left.  All the cool kids are talking about it, so I'll jump on the bandwagon.

Here is some major misinformation:

This January, 100,000 children were hospitalized on ventilators with Covid

"The facts are in: Mask mandates work"

Thousands of unarmed black men are murdered by police every year.

Jason Blake was unarmed

Kyle Rittenhouse was hunting and shooting black people

The Russians stole the 2016 election for Trump

The 2020 election was stolen by an unholy cabal of bad actors including Sharpies, bamboo ballots from China, Dominion Voting Systems, turncoat GOP state officials, and the ghost of Hugo Chavez 

Young people are at serious risk from covid

Lockdowns halt the spread of covid and the good outweighs the harm

Early treatment doesn't work

The covid pandemic could not have been the result of gain of function research or a lab leak.

The Covid saga began with orchestrated misdirection. On January 31, 2020, some of the world’s top virologists told Dr. Anthony Fauci they believed the SARS-CoV-2 virus was probably “engineered” and they “can’t think of a plausible natural scenario.” 

Within weeks, however, these same scientists insisted in the Lancet and Nature Medicine that the virus was natural and to question its origin was spreading “misinformation” and “prejudice.” 

Last week we learned Fauci’s National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) granted these scientists $50 million in 2020 and 2021 alone. 

Bonus Reading: 'Fact Checking' is a scam

Finally, Matt Taibbi (one of the few actual journalists left in the US) details how "Fact Checkers" are more an ideological praetorian guard than guardians of the truth. 
As Thacker details below, firms have successfully manipulated reporters and Internet platforms into seeing a binary reality in which all critics are conspiracy theorists.

“We don’t have main and minor [points of view] anymore,” he says. “What we have is truth, and conspiracy. Or vax, and anti-vax. There are only two possibilities you can go through. Do you know where you find that kind of black-white thinking? In people who have major personality disorders. And psychopaths. Psychopaths and people with narcissistic personality disorder engage in black-white thinking. America right now is in this weird situation in which it’s a country that to the outside looks psychopathic or disordered.” (The British Medical Journal Story That Exposed Politicized "Fact-Checking")

What say you?

72 comments:

  1. One view is what Big Tech and big media want. No questions about the 2020 election. No discussion of the role of Big Tech. No discussion that the Capital rioters were unarmed but might have stunk up Pelosis bathroom. No discussion of the carnage of BLM and the missing money. Exactly where is Lois Lerners replacement looking at actual BLM tax hijinks

    No discussion of Hunter Bidens Ukrainian cash. No discussion on taking in actual refugees mostly women and children vs fakes who are mostly male of fighting age.

    No discussion of the war on energy by the Faux Biden administration. No discussion why an Israeli pipeline to Europe is blocked on environmental concerns.
    No discussion on yet another joke of an Iran treaty

    No blame for pissing off historical allies while Obamites curry favor with Iran.
    No discussion of Gomer Kerry worried about the environment when dead bodies are piling up in the Ukraine.

    No discussion of Environmentalist receiving Russian money. No discussion of AOC aiding Putin with environmental extremism.

    Lets see and compare the actual KGB files of Donald Trump Ted Cruz and Barack Obama, Sanders and John Kerry. Lets see exactly who has served Russia. Hint it wasnt Cruz.

    Lastly lets discuss who conspired with political hacks to subvert justice to attack an elected President. Lets charge the FBI agents responsible for falsely prosecuting Gen Flynn.

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  2. "Alternate facts" infected the "Don't Look Up" people around 5 years ago convincing them that reality was "The Enemy Of The People".

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    1. Alternate facts, much like alternate desires, create alternate realities. And alternate realities are precisely what is needed when the "current reality" transfers ALL wealth to the 1%. And in THAT sense, the "current reality" IS an "Enemy of the People". For if facts didn't alter realities, of what use would dysinformatzia be?

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    2. Plato, "Cratylus"

      ...no man of sense will like to put himself or the education of his mind in the power of names: neither will he so far trust names or the givers of names as to be confident in any knowledge which condemns himself and other existences to an unhealthy state of unreality.

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    3. Yeah I get that FJ and while it's something perhaps acceptable when a spouse justifies their extramarital behaviors or when someone finds a $100 bill on the ground and declares it theirs, it generally isn't something that a poker player can use to declare his straight beats my flush.

      But then, the basket of gulibles are indeed a new breed of poker players being played.

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    4. The rules of poker are merely social conventions, too. The presence of so many nationalities with their unique customs and norms merely proves that social conventions aren't "facts," they're merely agreed to ways of lying consistently.

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    5. ...as are most new laws based upon legal "precedents".

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    6. “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”

      ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

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  3. Interesting list Silver, if a bit one sided... let me add to it.

    “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

    “Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

    “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

    “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

    “We're [Covid Numbers] going very substantially down, not up.”

    “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

    “It goes away….It’s going away."

    All of these quotes, inaccurate at best and some, we now know, he admitted to knowing were false when he said them, are from President Trump. And all before April of 2020.

    Looking at this list and your examples, how do we determine when someone is wrong, and when what they are saying is simply "Dezinformatsiya" or propaganda?

    I've been struggling with that line of difference since the days of the Iraq War and surety of the never found WMD's in that country.

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    1. The standard way to determine the answer used to be to ask, "Cui bono?", and if the answer was "the speaker", to discount his words accordingly. But today's speakers often take that question into account and therefore turn it around so as to make their arguments appear more impartial/ speak from an position of "objective universality"... kind of like white liberals who support BLM and ardently condemn "white privilege". They condemn it in order to invoke it over the argument.... "You see, I don't benefit, so it must be true..."

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    2. Such is the essence of post-modernism. To appear devoid of "ambition" and be seen as aspiring not to "equality" in principle, but "equity" in fact. Social "power relations" must appear to disappear... as in Baudrillard's phases of the image.

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    3. ...to become masters in the application of power through discourse analysis and subsequent control of what is considered an "acceptable discourse" through a code of "political correctness" and speech.

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    4. -FJ... all of what you said may in fact, be true.

      But alas, it leaves my question unanswered. If essentially "follow the money" or "who benefits" is no longer in play, what next?

      Looking at both mine and Silver's statements, how do we determine when those statements are disinformation, when they are simply wrong and when they are outright lies?

      Intent?

      Does intent to deceive or deflect signify intent and therefore a lie, or disinformation?

      Or in popular usage, is everything we don't like or don't agree with in today's world propaganda or disinfo?

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    5. Dave, interesting deflection.

      The statements you cited? I put them all in one category: Trump blather

      The Big difference between my list and yours is, the list I cite was pitch to us as certified truth, by the official gatekeepers.

      Those same gatekeepers, rightly so, refused to put their stamp of approval on Trump blather.

      So, it's a real mixed bag, isn't it?

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    6. Dave, to your question. How do we decide?

      The way human beings have always decided. By gathering information, listening to people we trust, debating, and then deciding for ourselves.

      It is very clear that the world controllers in social media and in the infotainment media complex have failed us.

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    7. Do they seem seem true to you? Do the words appear to increase "your power"? "The world is will to power, an nothing besides. And you are that will to power." - Nietzsche


      ... or accept a more "Kantian" perspective. Only the things that "all" can agree upon are "objectively" true and so our own actions should result from categorical imperatives".

      Don't succumb to the liar's paradox. Always tell the truth.

      Though bad things may result. They are not your fault.

      Wisdom is the opposite of justice. Justice is what just is.

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    8. Plato, "Laches"

      SOCRATES: Then courage is not the science which is concerned with the fearful and hopeful, for they are future only; courage, like the other sciences, is concerned not only with good and evil of the future, but of the present and past, and of any time?

      NICIAS: That, as I suppose, is true.

      SOCRATES: Then the answer which you have given, Nicias, includes only a third part of courage; but our question extended to the whole nature of courage: and according to your view, that is, according to your present view, courage is not only the knowledge of the hopeful and the fearful, but seems to include nearly every good and evil without reference to time. What do you say to that alteration in your statement?

      NICIAS: I agree, Socrates.

      SOCRATES: But then, my dear friend, if a man knew all good and evil, and how they are, and have been, and will be produced, would he not be perfect, and wanting in no virtue, whether justice, or temperance, or holiness? He would possess them all, and he would know which were dangers and which were not, and guard against them whether they were supernatural or natural; and he would provide the good, as he would know how to deal both with gods or men.

      NICIAS: I think, Socrates, that there is a great deal of truth in what you say.

      SOCRATES: But then, Nicias, courage, according to this new definition of yours, instead of being a part of virtue only, will be all virtue?

      NICIAS: It would seem so.

      SOCRATES: But we were saying that courage is one of the parts of virtue?

      NICIAS: Yes, that was what we were saying.

      SOCRATES: And that is in contradiction with our present view?

      NICIAS: That appears to be the case.

      SOCRATES: Then, Nicias, we have not discovered what courage is.

      NICIAS: We have not.

      LACHES: And yet, friend Nicias, I imagined that you would have made the discovery, when you were so contemptuous of the answers which I made to Socrates. I had very great hopes that you would have been enlightened by the wisdom of Damon.

      NICIAS: I perceive, Laches, that you think nothing of having displayed your ignorance of the nature of courage, but you look only to see whether I have not made a similar display; and if we are both equally ignorant of the things which a man who is good for anything should know, that, I suppose, will be of no consequence. You certainly appear to me very like the rest of the world, looking at your neighbour and not at yourself. I am of opinion that enough has been said on the subject which we have been discussing; and if anything has been imperfectly said, that may be hereafter corrected by the help of Damon, whom you think to laugh down, although you have never seen him, and with the help of others. And when I am satisfied myself, I will freely impart my satisfaction to you, for I think that you are very much in want of knowledge.

      LACHES: You are a philosopher, Nicias; of that I am aware: nevertheless I would recommend Lysimachus and Melesias not to take you and me as advisers about the education of their children; but, as I said at first, they should ask Socrates and not let him off; if my own sons were old enough, I would have asked him myself.

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    9. Joe,

      Thank your for "clarifying" my comments! lol

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    10. I figured I'd throw in an Analyst Discourse for good measure... ;p

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  4. When it was first suggested that the 2020 election was stolen, manipulated, rigged or whatever, my reaction was along the lines of, "Yeah, the losers of every election have claimed that for the last five election. It's getting boring."

    Then when one court after another refused to hear the cases on rather ridiculous grounds (no standing, "It's not one state's business how another state runs it's election.") I began to think that maybe there was, indeed, something amiss. If you participate in a joint venture of any sort, for instance, it is very much your business how your fellow participants conduct themselves.

    Then, when it became a matter of being "cancelled" for even talking about it, I became convinced that the election was very much rigged, manipulated and stolen.

    The claims of it being done did not convince me. The guilty behavior of those who committed the crime convinced me.

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    1. Jayhawk, sounds to me that like so many Americans, you needed to find a rationale to buy into the "rigged, manipulated and stolen" disinformation and propaganda of the big lie.

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    2. It's the "unwritten rule" of democracy to never question the "certified" result.

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    3. I'm good with our team rushing the mound on this one.

      ….just as Russia seems good at rushing into the Ukraine.

      For there is only one "truth". That of the stronger/ victor.

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    4. For law to function as law, the Real of violence must be concealed. As Zizek explains (with reference to Kant), law's validity requires that we remain within law, that we don't go outside law and emphasize its contingent, historical founding. If we do go outside the law, we can't even see the order as law; its claim to authority becomes just another contingency or act of violence. Zizek is not making a facile point regarding stupid subjects duped by a malevolent legal order. Rather, he is emphasizing the fact that law involves more than the violent, arbitrary, control of people. People need a kind of faith in law; they have to believe it (to believe that others believe it) for it to function at all. The fantasy of an original contract, for example, provides something in which people can believe; this fantasy attaches them to law as it conceals the Real of violence. Belief in law is that something extra that distinguishes law from violence, that separates the founding moment of violence from what comes after it.
      - Jodi Dean, "Zizek on Law"

      That "anxiety" that you feel when you think of breaking the law? That's merely your innate fear of the return of the violent repressed. And when you "relieve" yourself of that anxiety by feeling/accepting "guilt" for having thought of breaking the law, that's the relief you get from knowing that the violence will not come, since you didn't actually break the law.

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    5. ...and Russia know's that America will do NOTHING "violent" in response to their invasion. How many times did Biden scream, "America will not respond if Russia invades Ukraine" in the weeks leading up to the invasion? Biden made Putin's actions very "stress/ anxiety free" for Putin.

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  5. The disinformation about Karl Rittenhouse really infuriates me. In particular when Biden called him a 'white supremist!' Absolutely disgusting.

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    1. Like I said above,

      -FJMarch 17, 2022 at 10:16:00 AM CDT

      "But today's speakers often take that question into account and therefore turn it around so as to make their arguments appear more impartial/ speak from an position of "objective universality"... kind of like white liberals who support BLM and ardently condemn "white privilege". They condemn it in order to invoke it over the argument.... "You see, I don't benefit, so it must be true..."



      .or President's when they want to virtue signal their base.
      The "smarter" move would have been for Biden to have applied "La Clemenza de Tutti" and won over some of his "opposition" thereby.

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    2. ...but then again perhaps not, as I favour the old ways like Shakespeare's clemenza to Mozart's. ;)

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    3. ...as Mozart's version seems to be the very form of clemenza that we excessively suffer from today (Soros' prosecutors).

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    4. I'm good with our team rushing the mound on this one.

      Somewhere no where near the Baseball Hall of Fame, Pete Rose runs a gambling podcast.

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    5. Is it anywhere near the Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame?

      MLB will get its' cut of Rose one way or another.

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    6. Every loser walks off the game show with a box of Rice-A-Roni. Then they eat it, and it's gone.

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    7. TC, You're really fixated on dill and vodka. Tell us, did some mean Russian schoolboys sodomize you with dill pickles and a vodka bottle?

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    8. LOL I could use some vodka right about now too! I don't drink so I am settling for my coffee.

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    9. Tell who about your fixation on sodomy?

      Russians eat a lot of dill, drink a lot of vodka,.and say a lot of stupid things. The article I linked focuses on the third thing.

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    10. TC: Now you get all serious and butthurt on us...

      C'mon, you can do better than that. I use your variant of that response all the time in the threads at The Hill.

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    11. What I linked was a pan review of Putin's speech. The article does link to the Kremlin's English transcript of the speech entirely. Visit via an Ukrainian-based VPN for style points. It's somewhat interesting to me that Putin's announced strategy to combat the economic squeeze being put on Russia by the sanctions are to institute a universal basic income, deregulation, and lowering prices by creating a supply glut.

      Crude oil might become the new salad dressing there.

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    12. Russia can feed and clothe itself and provide itself energy. The rest it can sell to China, so yeah, Russia is pretty self-sufficient, when you figure in the people's capacity for pain, suffering and sucking it up.

      Smarter western leaders over the past 30 years would have figured out how to live with Russia and integrate it into the west. Yeah, their leaders are bad people. Big deal. We deal with all kinds of bad people.

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  6. "Here is some major misinformation:"


    "The 2020 election was stolen by an unholy cabal of bad actors including Sharpies, bamboo ballots from China, Dominion Voting Systems, turncoat GOP state officials, and the ghost of Hugo Chavez"

    Lots of I-did-not-say-he-beat-his-wife there.

    I mean, it kinda hints that it was someone or something else that stole it.

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    1. Gee, perhaps if all of those many filed court cases had gone to trial, we'd know today.

      But we can't have any proof of questionable governmental official practices, can we? THAT might bring down the whole damn democracy business!

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    2. Damn Trump for breaking the one unwritten rule of democracy... Whatever the oficialistas say the count was... the count was. Now certify and accept it, OR ELSE!

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    3. They never went to trial because lawyers can stand in front of a Fox News camera and spew lies to the gullibles all day but if they do it in a court room they get disbarred and/or charged with a crime.

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    4. How many were either heard or are still active? 6.

      That's 1/10th.

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    5. Ronald,

      My opinion is on the record.

      IMO, Donald Trump and his vulgar, unprofessional and stupid behavior is primarily to blame for his loss.

      I also said the following:

      "Maybe it was good old fashioned Democrat organizing, combined with GOP apathy. Stacey Abrams is now a political powerhouse, and she beat the Georgia GOP like bongo drums."

      I also stated that I think because of how careless some states were with mail-in ballots, fraud was a possibility, but Team Kraken didn't make the case.

      I don't continue talking about it because Biden has been certified as our president, so he is our president, Donald Trump will not be reenstated, and it is way past time to move on. Republican politicians who continue to yammer on about it only hurt themselves and the party by scaring off the normals.

      So, your comment has no basis in what I have actually said.

      https://alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com/2021/01/one-last-election-post.html

      https://alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com/2021/02/how-election-was-stolen.html





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    6. @SF, +1. A voice of reason and sanity in a fetid swamp of fever dreams and fantasies.

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    7. CI, There are many benefits to being in the military. One of them is being in a war zone or other demanding situation and having to face brutal, inescapable reality, and adjust.

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    8. I can certainly appreciate that.

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    9. Okay, it wasn't stolen because "maybe" Dem organizing etc. but it was likely stolen by mail in ballots and the legal team's failure to expose that.

      And you're ready to get over it and move on but don't want to let go of some notion that it was stolen.

      Funny thing how the Federalists and other echo chambers for Trumpism gives the basket so many options to choose from. I guess in the land of the gullibles, what's one man's misinformation is another man's reality.

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    10. When you can't actually prove your case....or even come close to it....you have to invent all the myriad ways that you've become a 'victim'.

      Let's not forget that the same guy made the same claims in 2016.....with the same results....

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    11. Ronald, and the left continues to indulge in the fantasy that Russia elected Trump. We all have our crosses to bear I guess.

      I give you a reasoned response, based in facts and reality, and you immediately respond with more red team blue team BS

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    12. You’re gaslighting again my friend.

      What left wing outlets continue the fantasies that Russia elected Trump?

      Now, what right wing outlets continue selling a stolen election, denied or spun the leader of our country withholding congressional approved funding of Ukraine for political gain, defended the Jan 6 mob, continue to promote culture wars and the Southern Strategy, abetted the spreading of COVID, defended or downplayed “good Nazies”, and the list goes on and on?

      Every damn one of them, feeding their basket of gullibles a constant diet of horseshit who’ve been convinced to disregard credible outlets as “fake news”..

      And you are a constant defender of the horseshit either disregarding conflicting arguments, tossing the “they all do it” crap, or just making your usual claim that an opposing argument is just partisan blindness.

      You like to dish it out but not good at taking it.

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    13. Yes, Trump needed to fund the continued use of death/ extermination squads being sent into the Donbass region... it's TREASON not to....

      gtf up Gasbag.

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    14. Ronald,

      I know all the smart kids are using the word 'gaslighting,' but you should know what a word means before using it.

      I just gave you my opinion on election 2020, and it disagrees with much of the narrative on the right, so you must be blinded and/or stupified by blind partisan rage.

      You lefties, including your leftwing media propaganda arms admit the Russian collusion was all a hoax? Fake news? I missed that, so thank you for telling us, and congratulations for pulling your head out.

      Rightwing outlets? I don't care. I also don't defend them, so it looks like three strikes and you're out.

      When you address me, address me and what I have said. I'm not responsible for what people on cable news outlets say.

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    15. I think the official outcome of investigations of Russian involvement in 2016 was no evidence of collusion with Trump, specifically. But that's quite a limited statement; I think they did find evidence of significant interference with the election, like there was in our Brexit referendum.
      There's a better case to be made for russian collusion with our conservative party than there is with trump snr. The level of corruption in our current government is literally nauseating.

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    16. Jez, you're correct. The indictments and convictions are a byproduct of that fact.

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  7. @Silverfiddle IMO, Donald Trump and his vulgar, unprofessional and stupid behavior is primarily to blame for his loss.

    I totally agree with you. My dad once said to me when about a year before he died that Trump is a good guy but in my dad's words "talks too much." My dad was a man of few words. That would have served Trump well, but Trump is who he is and just could not help himself. I do hope he wins in 2024 unless the GOP can come up with someone better but to date I cannot imagine who. I would love for Candace Owens to run. She would be a straight shooter and does not mince words and the American people would always know where she stood and where we stood, but of course, that is just my personal opinion.

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    1. I'm not a fan of Candace Owens.

      Being in the pundit-pontificating blathersphere doesn't necessarily qualify you for a position of responsibility.

      I long for politicians who are smart, responsible, and boring.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/candace-owens-calls-zelensky-a-very-bad-character-who-s-hurting-ukraine/ar-AAVd86A?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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    2. I long for politicians who are smart, responsible, and boring.

      You sing the song of my people. Between the AOC's and MTG's in Congress, those once hallowed halls have all the gravitas now, of a middle school talent show.

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    3. I long for politicians who are smart, responsible, and boring.

      When your train has gone as far off the rails as the Deep State leadership has, I want someone who is anything BUT boring. I'd purge out everything above a GS-15 and wait for the screams.

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    4. “We will pass critical reforms,” Trump said, “making every executive branch employee fireable by the president of the United States. The deep state must and will be brought to heel.” :)

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    5. It is an unfortunate but unavoidable reality that in order to drain the swamp, you need insider swamp creatures to get the job done.

      I don't think it will ever happen. It's like a crime syndicate. Once you're a made man, you are not going to destroy your own self licking ice cream cone

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    6. Then perhaps the IG's need to ALL be political appointee's/ executive loyalists and voted in/out with each Administration to keep the agencies that they oversee in line with the current Executive's policies.

      Current law (below) should be modified to remove the "apolitical" (bold) elements...

      (a) There shall be at the head of each Office an Inspector General who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, without regard to political affiliation and solely on the basis of integrity and demonstrated ability in accounting, auditing, financial analysis, law, management analysis, public administration, or investigations. Each Inspector General shall report to and be under the general supervision of the head of the establishment involved or, to the extent such authority is delegated, the officer next in rank below such head, but shall not report to, or be subject to supervision by, any other officer of such establishment. Neither the head of the establishment nor the officer next in rank below such head shall prevent or prohibit the Inspector General from initiating, carrying out, or completing any audit or
      investigation, or from issuing any subpoena during the course of any audit or investigation.
      (b) An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President. If an Inspector General is removed from office or is transferred to another position or location within an establishment, the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal.

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    7. Call him the President's "political officer" and "enforcer" if you like. He can investigate anything within his agency, but his chief job is to keep tabs of the activities of the agency directors and keep them loyal to the President.

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    8. But let no one imagine that the IG is "apolitical".

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