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Friday, February 17, 2017

Trump's Press Conference Of February 16, 2017

(Two posts today, and they are related)

Pod people are being created.  Hordes of them.


Last night and this morning, I watched some of CNN's and MSNBC's coverage of yesterday's press conference held by Trump.

Jarring!

CNN and MSNBC are bizarrely disconnected from what really transpired.

At one point on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Mika Brzezinski (and the daughter of Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski), the woman on the anchor desk, rolled her eyes to the heavens as she said the word "President." Following by a sigh, of course,

What alarms me is how many Americans will never actually watch the press conference. They'll just assume that Trump is unhinged because CNN and MSNBC have said so. These same Americans avoid Fox News like the plague. Not that some on Fox News aren't circling like sharks, too.

And you can bet that Trump is being excoriated this morning in classrooms all over the country — middle school through graduate level. And not only in social studies classes. English classes will also be infested with these "discussions."

President Trump is being presented as "unhinged" and unfit to be President. The same is coming from many supposedly on the Right: David Brooks and Michael Gerson, just to name two examples.

Watch your back.  At your workplace and at home.

THIS IS WAR!

68 comments:

  1. His presser, was a hot mess. Resembled a campaign speech more than a POTUS press conference. "The leaks are real, but the reporting is fake"? The sycophantic cheerleaders are happy, yet pursuing victim status. Weird and intellectually immature.

    We deserve better than this. Or perhaps....we have exactly what we deserve.

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  2. The media have created certain "expectations" for presidential behaviour that Mr. Trump does not fulfill.

    So who or which is wrong? Mr. Trump? Or the behavioural "expectations" established by the media?

    I say, throw the expectations overboard. Let some fresh air and light into the Executive Branch for a change.

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    1. Remember when citizens used to be able to walk up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, knock on the door, and the President would open it?

      No Secret Service protection. No lictors. No Praetorian Guard...

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    2. I'd say that nobody does....but it's a good point of reflection to see just how deep we are into the Security State.

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    3. ...and just how deep we are into the "Narrative State". ;)

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    4. A Presidential Press Conference is x, Trump did y, ergo Trump is un-Presidential...

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    5. The media have created certain "expectations".....

      It's more than media expectations....it's societal expectations. We expect [or should expect] a POTUS to not lie reflexively.

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    6. Ever been to Williamsburg? Watched a debate in a tavern?

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    7. Familiarity breeds contempt. Washington was thought "profound" because he never mixed with the ranks. Perhaps it's time to become "familiar" once more with those in power... not let them hide behind ceremony and protocol.

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    8. I should have clarified, we've largely devolved into an undereducated mob that actually cheers the fact that they're being lied to...by a man who has made it a central tenet to accuse others of the same.

      Can we not strive for an exchange of ceremony and protocol - for honesty and integrity?

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    9. I would argue that it's your "premises" that are faulty. You've been "sold" a false narrative, that the ceremony and protocol protect the "truth." In fact, the ceremony and protocol protect the lie. And the "lie" is that "global capitalism" participates in a "free market". As the "need" for numerous "trade treaties" should have alerted you... the global market is anything but free. Just as to see the Secret Protocols that underlie TISA.

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    10. You're confusing my specific point with a broader narrative that I haven't argued. But if nothing matters....there are no lies...then I expect I won't see you complaining about the media, no?

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    11. There are alternative facts. Whether or not you (or the members of the MSM) "choose" to consider them forms the underlying basis of my complaint. Your "narrative" is slipping, and along with it, the "truth".

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    12. We must put Hegel back into the series Plato-Descartes-Hegel which corresponds to the triad of Objective-Subjective-Absolute: Plato's Ideas are objective, truth embodied; the Cartesian subject stands for the unconditional certainty of subjective self-awareness... and Hegel, what does he add? If "subjective" is what is relative to our subjective limitations, and if "objective" is the way things really are, what does "absolute" add? Hegel's answer: the "absolute" does not add some deeper, more substantial dimension- all it does is include (subjective) illusion in (objective) truth itself. The "absolute" standpoint makes us see how reality includes fiction (or fantasy), how the right choice only emerges after the wrong one...

      Try moving away from "subjective illusion" for a change. Consider some of Trump's "alternative facts". :)

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    13. I've spent more time considering his lies than they deserve.

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    14. There's not even a good starting point, legion are his lies....but feel free to defend his statements on: Christian immigration, founding of ISIS, murder rate, tax returns, massive voter fraud, etc, etc, etc...

      That's just a few of my favorites from the hit parade. But interestingly, you appear to defend a man who not only uses falsehood as his intellectual currency....but couches them in absolutes.

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    15. Get specific, please. If I pick one, like ISIS Founding, and say something like "the void left in the absence of any anti-Islamic pushback led to the founding of ISIS...", I don't want to be accused of LYING because Barack Obama didn't get listed on their "chartering documents". How "false" does the statement have to be before YOU classify it a lie?

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    16. ...because there's obviously at least a "bit" of truth in ALL of his statements.

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    17. ps - And if he couches them in "absolutes", please refer to my Plato-Pascal-Hegel definition of "absolute" knowledge, above. :)

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    18. ps - You're not a Stephen Fry freak, are you? ;)

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    19. You do agree that in order to "lie", one's intention must be "to deliberately deceive"... right?

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    20. ...that poorly expressed ideas shouldn't be labelled "lies"?

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    21. Ars Poetica said

      He preached upon 'Breadth' till it argued him narrow ––
      The Broad are too broad to define
      And of 'Truth' until it proclaimed him a Liar ––
      The Truth never flaunted a Sign ––

      Simplicity fled from his counterfeit presence
      As Gold the Pyrites would shun ––
      What confusion would cover the innocent Jesus
      To meet so enabled a Man!


      ~ Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)

      Any attempt to converse with such a person is tantamount to whistling down a drainpipe.

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    22. I'm actually not terribly interested in your defense of any of Trump's "alternate' assertions. He's had paid surrogates do that already, and it still left me wanting. But you raise an interesting premise; if malicious intent has to be present in order for something to be labeled a lie....and you would presumably claim that Trump is lacking this....then the same paradigm exists with regards to the media; spilling the wind from the sails of the "fake news" theme.

      But you have a point, "lies" could be considered too strong....yet "poorly expressed ideas" certainly doesn't cut it either. Trump knows when he speaks from ignorance [or if he doesn't, this should worry us all], as evidence by a reporter debunking his electoral college claim during his press charade.

      But further, we don't see this same deference provided to the previous Administration, nor political opponents of Trump, so I'm to sure there's much value in dialing it back, merely because intent generally cannot be proven sans confession.

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    23. But I do appreciate the rational discourse. Its refreshing given the usual ignorant clutter of racism, calls for genocide and multiple personality disorders from certain quarters.

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    24. BLOW IT OUT YOUR SADDLEBAG, YOU TIRESOME CRANK!

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    25. _________ MEME-EE! _______

      Your left shoe's on your right foot,
      Your right shoe's on your left.
      Oh! listen to me,, Meme-e:
      Of reason you're bereft!
      The buttons of your trousers
      Are buttoned to your vest;
      Oh! listen to me, Meme-ee,
      No passion's in your breast!

      Meme-ee, you irksome little good for nothing Meme-ee,
      I'm not your guy.
      Meme-ee, you crummy little dummy of a Meme-ee,
      You've aimed too high!
      Meme-ee, you drive me mad, please free me,
      If you flee me, 'twould be dreamy.
      Meme-ee, you know I'd like to have me see
      You pesky Son of a Meme-ee say, Goodbye!


      ...... Morris Knight

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    26. My point with the above statement: that this blog thread stay on topic.

      We don't all like each other, nor do we have to.

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    27. The ideas are poorly expressed because the expressor wears ideological "blinders". There's no intention to deceive anyone but the wearer. For the wearer truly wishes to believe what he says to be true. They represent his "dreams".

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    28. And so I reveal the actual "intent" of all the parties. Not to necessarily deceive, but realize their deepest desires.

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    29. ...and in the case of the reporters, it's that Trump NOT be President.

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  3. That's the best way to stay informed and to make sure you are being fed "fake news."

    I wish people would just give him a chance.

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  4. AAAAAAAAAW SHEEEEEEEEYUTT!!!

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  5. You are correct. Watch your back. These people are playing for keeps. I forced myself to watch Morning Joe because I knew it was going to be scary. CNN as well. I see where they are headed. It is not good. Not good at all.

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  6. These same Americans avoid Fox News like the plague. Not that some on Fox News aren't circling like sharks, too.
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    So if one pays scant attention to Faux Snooze one can't be reasonably informed.
    Doesn't much matter now since Trump is trying to establish Breitfart as the news source of record. The administration even granted press credentials to Gateway Pundit . The right is so completely skull drilled that they can't even feel embarrassment.

    CI is correct about one thing. Agitprop substitutes for reporting across most of the spectrum. I still have a standing challenge to right wingers to list their objective news sites.

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    1. It's a FACT that the list of objective news sites in a NULL set, BY DEFINITION, ducky. So I'm glad that no right wingers have chosen to lie to you.

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    2. That doesn't mean we can overturn objective reality.
      Let's take two current memes:

      1. 80% of the 9th circuits rulings are overturned.

      That's partially true but what the fringe right agitprop sites like Breitfart don't add is that the figure represents only those cases which go on to review by SCOTUS, a small percentage of the cases.Also, the Federal circuit court had a higher reversal rate and the 9th was not out of line with several other circuits.
      But you'll still get the fringe right calling for disbanding the 9th out of complete ignorance and hysteria.

      2. There is massive voter fraud occurring in the U.S.

      The left went through this hysteria with voting machine after the first Bush election but dropped the issue when the facts just weren't there. In other words, the matter was objectively investigated.
      The right continues to harp on the issue of extensive voter fraud even with limited evidence. About the best they have is Project Veritas which frankly reveals more about right wing gullibility than the integrity of the election process.

      To be blunt, the right is more likely to be led by the nose.

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    3. The Democrats dropped it because it would have disqualified millions of their votes.

      Lets investigate how many non-Americans voted in 2016. It's the rock that nobody ever dares look under.

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    4. ...and please refer to my comments vis "absolute knowledge" above.

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    5. Lest you begin to deny the utility of empirical knowledge (Kant's "Practical Reason" opposed to his platonic "Pure Reason")

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    6. ...and the more Popperian, "it ain't science unless a statement can be proven false"

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    7. The only reason that northern white Democrats ever went to the South to register Negroes in the 60's was because 70% of the blacks were ALREADY VOTING Democrat.... not because they were historically oppressed. It was all just another "get out the vote" drive.

      See how the Kuleshov effect can cut two ways, duckman?

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    8. Why did they have to go to the South to register African-Americans if they weren't being oppressed?

      As an aside:
      Let the great Vigo demonstrate Kuleshov


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    9. Self-interest, of course... if 70% of African-American already voted for Democrats, why wouldn't Democrats want to increase the number of African-American voters? Why let a few stupid Southern Democrat racists keep you from winning elections?

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  7. Meanwhile, the liberal press purports the ability to "divine" the intentions of both Trump and the Russians via principles of Russian film theory like the Kuleshov effect. *shakes head*

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  8. AAAAAAAAAAAAAW SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYUTT!

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  9. I loved hearing Bolton say "Well, I think he IS 'hinged'"

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    1. HEY! Charles Krauthammer said the exact same thing Z, –– and Dr. K has been no fan of DJT.

      Nothing like a common enemy to bring out the best in those who at least try to act sane.

      I think we're going to WIN this battle after all. The ENEMEDIA is LOSING credibility by the hour, and so, thank God, are the DemonRats.

      But make no mistake, we're in for a LONG uphill climb. After all ,we're trying to undo nearly a CENTURY of malfeasance and abject stupidity perpetrated by the Left.

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    2. While CNN and MSNBC were moaning and groaning, was Trump performing some sleight of hand and advancing his agenda and "getting things done"? I heard a talking head allude to that possibility a few hours ago.

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    3. Z and FT,
      Both Bolton and Krauthammer? That's interesting!

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    4. John Bolton has always been one of the Good Guys. He appears frequently on Lou Dobbs Tonight –– a favorite feature on the FOX BUSINESS Channel, and has always been very supportive of Mr. Trump. He is now on the short list to replace the ill-fated Mike Flynn. Earlier he ,looked to be a good choice for Secretary of State, but that did not materialize.

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  10. GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS!

    PRUITT GOT THROUGH IT

    Trump's choice for EPA Chief confirmed

    Senate confirms President Trump’s pick to head the Environmental Protection Agency, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, voting 52-46 after heated debate.

    ~ Fox News

    DOW HITS ANOTHER RECORD HIGH!

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  11. GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS!

    PRUITT GOT THROUGH IT

    Trump's choice for EPA Chief confirmed


    Senate confirms President Trump’s pick to head the Environmental Protection Agency, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, voting 52-46 after heated debate.

    ~ Fox News

    DOW HITS ANOTHER RECORD HIGH!

    TWENTY-THOUSAND, SIX-HUNDRED-TWENTY-FOUR!

    _____ 20, 624.05 To Be Exact _____

    TWENTY-THOUSAND, SIX-HUNDRED-TWENTY-FOUR!


    Of course, this dramatic upsurge in the market, reflected in the value of most of our well-managed portfolios has absolutely NOTHING to DO with the election of DONALD J. TRUMP to the presidency.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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  12. So ring bells! Sing songs!
    Blow horns! Sound gongs!
    Our Trump will never die;
    Thanks to him we are riding high!


    ~ Cole Porter - Panama Hattie (1940) - adapted by FT

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  13. "How come Shaw herself makes up 90 percent of the people that comment on her blog???"

    Who in his/her right mind could care?

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    1. What happens at that blog or at any other is of no concern here at this blog.

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    2. Allan Alden McConkey, Jr. said

      "What happens at that blog –– or at any other –– is of no concern here ..."

      I can't believe you meant that. It would be much too insular and confining. Sharing good information, denouncing disinformation, and sharing appreciation and enjoyment of the rare bits of richly colored opinion that appear now and then in the blogging community has always been a good, heathy part of what blogging is supposed to be all about –– or so I've always thought.

      Didn't you really intend to say that spreading ill will, and indulging in rude conduct and nasty gossip about fellow bloggers must cease or at least be discouraged at every opportunity?

      There ARE good things WORtH sharing that ought not be stifled, as I know you know.

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    3. Posting about comments and commenters at other blogs is blog gossip when the intent has zero to do with the blog thread here.

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  14. Ivanka Trump Eau de Parfum Spray For Women sits at number one on the retail giant’s top sellers list. Also topping the list is IVANKA TRUMP For Women 0.20 Eau de Parfum Roller Ball, which is the number two best seller on the women’s fragrances list.

    Trump’s brand products are currently beating out women’s fragrances by pop stars Jennifer Lopez and Britney Spears as well as fragrances lines from Vera Wang, Giorgio Armani, Marc Jacobs, and Versac

    Take that all you DumbaRats

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  15. Beautiful Melania Trump Recites The Lord’s Prayer At Melbourne Rally , And the CROWD GOES WILD!

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