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Monday, December 14, 2015

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So, what's on your mind?

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60 comments:

  1. Persecution, torture and butchery of fellow human beings and the idiocy of trying to pretend these things are not what they are fill my thoughts today.

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  2. Breaking news this morning...

    French teacher attacked by man claiming ISIS link:

    PARIS, Dec 14 (Reuters) - A hooded man claiming to be acting for Islamic State attacked a nursery school teacher with a knife-like weapon as he prepared for classes in a school north of Paris, French officials said on Monday.

    The male teacher was taken to hospital after the attack by a man wielding a knife or box-cutter who fled the scene after the attack at about 0630 GMT, said the official, adding that anti-terrorism officials were investigating.

    [...]

    According to one judiciary official, the assailant slashed at the teacher's neck and said the act was a signal from the Islamic State group, also referred to in France by the name Daesh....


    A NURSERY SCHOOL!

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    1. See my blog today:

      http://freethinkesblog.blogspot.com/?zx=da63e836789862c5

      I have dug down to the root and exposed the nitty gritty in all its hideously gory detail.

      DIDADIN!

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    2. Almost certainly mentally ill.

      Happens all the time in the U.S.

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    3. Duck,
      Almost certainly mentally ill.

      Find a link to prove that assertion.

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    4. This from the BBC.

      "The attacker reportedly arrived wearing a balaclava and gloves but was unarmed and used weapons he found in the classroom."

      Hardly on organized attack.
      Not that an attack by a disturbed person is trivial but this seems a random one off.

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    5. Nice AOW for a person who called the Planned Parenthood shooter a paranoid schzophrenic based on a picture to ask Ducky for a link when he voices a similar opinion...

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    6. Dave,
      There are important distinctions:

      Maybe the latest attacker in France was crazy, but unlike the random white men crazies in this country who murder people (like a planned parenthood), the Muslim murderers scream that they are doing it for Allah.

      How many Christian murderers scream they are doing it in the name of Christ?

      For bonus points, tell us what preacher and what church radicalized the Planned Parenthood murderer.

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    7. You don't keep up on abortion clinic murders, Silverfiddle?

      Focus on the Family is their ISIS.

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    8. Is there a connection between the latest loony and Focus on the Family?

      I live here and I haven't heard anything about that. He lived in a trailer up in Hartsel.

      Anyway, if you have some info on such a link, please share it.

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    9. Dave,
      Watch your step with insulting me.

      Disagree? Fine. But I will not tolerate your coming into my home (my blog), and snarling at me.

      You claim to be a Christian. Show the fruits of that claim when you interact with me.

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    10. @ Ducky: "Focus on the Family is their ISIS."

      Hmmm. I've driven by Focus many times over the years and I don't recall ever seeing severed heads on pike poles out front, I have never heard Dobson calling for non-Christians to be raped and killed, and I have never heard of Christian terrorists pledging fealty to Focus on the Family.

      But I only live here, so obviously a Beantowner would know more about it that someone who lives in Colorado...

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    11. Ducky,

      Here is another view of what Colorado Springs is like, from our liberal paper, the Independent (which many cons read).

      It is about Richard Scorman, a far left business owner and former councilman. Here is the paragraph about one of the times Phredd Phlapps and his "church" of hatred came to the Springs:

      This time, members of Focus on the Family came to Poor Richard's to stand with Skorman (and beside tattooed young people and gays and lesbians), in opposition to Phelps. Skorman's conservative colleagues also showed up to support him, including then-Mayor Lionel Rivera. It was a moment of unity for Skorman, who had often found himself on the losing end of 8-1 votes on Council.

      That is the Colorado Springs I know.

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    12. AOW... I wasn't snarling at all... just pointing out that when you were asked for proof that the Planned parenthood bomber was mentally ill, a statement you made, as you said, based on looks, you provided none of the links you ask of Ducky.

      It's your blog, but it does seem rather odd that you would expect from Ducky, literally the same thing you refused, or were unable to provide.

      Given that the very nature of my question, how could it have been presented in a way so as to not offend you?

      Silver, I wasn't questioning the sanity of any of the attackers, just the seeming double standard related to links and proof.

      As for a link, the exact church might be a stretch to find. But I've been around the bend enough times theologically to be able to sketch a pretty good road map from Abortion is against the will of God, and therefore of the devil, to understand how someone could conclude their calling in life was to kill the devil and his helpers.

      I've seen it, lived it, picked up the pieces and seen the destruction. Both here and in churches across Mexico.

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    13. Dave,
      I will respond to you later. Got get out the door to work, then back home to fix Mr. AOW's dinner.

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    14. Dave,

      Fair enough, but we just never hear of Christian churches or preachers (outside of Phredd Phlapps) preaching hatred and murder. There are examples of imams and Mosques that do. I am not damning all Muslims, just pointing up a false equivalency peddled by some.

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  3. I'd like to give a shout out to the Social Justice Warriors.
    The silliness at Yale and other centers of education has died out but ...
    Museums are back in the news

    Meanwhile, there are serious issues like the corruption in the Chicago police department that deserve focus but the SJW's are making a mockery of real issues.

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    1. Ducky,

      I have come to believe that the entire US media complex is all about distracting us from important topics and diverting us into celebrity gossip, sports, trivial bs and petty controversies.

      Reasoned conversation is a rarity these days.

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    2. Duck,
      The silliness at Yale and other centers of education has died out but ...
      Museums are back in the news


      Isn't that link to the same story I posted in the body of this blog post?

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    3. The artnews article gives a graphic for each painting.

      I'm curious that he wants only four removed and not virtually the entire Renaissance collection.
      And why not remove paintings of Mary since they certainly offend black women? The disciples?

      He must have only viewed one of the Renaissance galleries before bolting the Museum in his utter pain and despair.

      He was interviewed on Black Talk Radio but the segment isn't archived. The idea of cultural theft is taken seriously.



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    4. The man is black? That makes no sense. Jesus, Joseph and Mary were not Africans. They were swarthy Jews.

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    5. SF,
      Not all Jews are swarthy, are they?

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    6. Of course not all Jewish people can be described as such. (and I come from a long line of swarthy bohunks...)

      It's a trite phrase, but archeologists and other scientific types have described the people of that area and that time as having swarthy skin and coarse black hair.

      My point is, they were not Africans, so I don't even understand where that crazy man with the lawsuit is coming from.

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  4. SF,
    I have come to believe that the entire US media complex is all about distracting us from important topics and diverting us into celebrity gossip, sports, trivial bs and petty controversies.

    Yep. Smoke and mirrors -- and sleight of hand.

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    1. And a reduction of everything into 2 minute segments...

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  5. Just in time...

    http://news.yahoo.com/forensic-recreation-jesus-christ-not-141028287.html

    Any Christian who has gone beyond the superficialities of the religion understands that depictions of Jesus are speculations and are dressed up in the cultural accouterments of the artist. The Renaissance Jesus is no different.

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    1. SF,
      Of course all depictions of Jesus are speculative. But we DO know tha that entries of Judah was not African.

      Some of my black friends have Nativity Scenes with a black baby in the manger. Doesn't bother me at all although I don't believe that hat rendition is accurate.

      BTW, these black families have black Santas, too. So what?

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    2. AOW,

      I put it all in the "so what" category as well. A blue-eyed renaissance Jesus is no more accurate or valid than a black Jesus, and it doesn't matter anyway. Jesus came to save us all, regardless of what we look like or where we come from.

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    3. SF,
      I'm one of those people who cannot get all worked up by other people's business. Must be my Mennonite background.

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    4. SF,
      Jesus came to save us all, regardless of what we look like or where we come from.

      AMEN TO THAT!

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    5. As a Nazarene, the real Jesus would have kept short hair and no beard. Just sayin.

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  6. "U.S. President Barack Obama on Saturday hailed the landmark climate accord reached in Paris as strong and historic, calling it the best chance to save the planet from the effects of global climate change."

    HIP-HIP-HOORAY, B.O. has saved our Planet; Hail To The Chief!





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    1. Jon,
      Back when I was in college (1968-1972), the drumbeat of "Save our planet!" got on a lot of people's nerves, regardless of political position.

      Now "Save our planet!" is back. Damn. Another tool for controlling and bankrupting us.

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    2. "Back when I was in college (1968-1972), the drumbeat of "Save our planet!"

      Yes and wasn't about the time that the scientists were predicting another Ice Age?

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  7. "Another tool for controlling and bankrupting us."

    EXACTLY!

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  8. According tho the Daily Mail right now, today's attack on the nursery school teacher was a case of staged jihad. The teacher stabbed himself in the neck.

    See this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3359003/Teacher-French-kindergarten-stabbed-neck-hooded-man-shouting-allegiance-ISIS.html

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    1. Probably a Marine Le Pen voter who couldn't handle the latest election results.

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    2. And can you blame them? The ridiculous hyperbole surrounding Marine Le Pen from the left is incorrigible and , frankly, dangerous and stupid.
      SOMEONE has to be the boy in the big pants.


      AOW....this is apparently a hoax...some preschool teacher trying to make it even worse for French muslims...stay tuned; more to follow, I'm sure.

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  9. I actually heard a Democratic solon say about the Iran deal "it is peace in our time." No. This is not April 1. True story, as hard as it is to believe.

    I hope that judge butt kicks this whiner so hard he lands in China's desert. I do not know how I could contain the rant if I were interviewed for such a jury.

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  10. News that Obama Admin did NOT examine social media prior to admitting San Bernadino terrorist even though it clearly showed her radical beliefs. More political correctness killing Americans. Plus, ISIS images found on Syrian "refugees" cell phones in Norway. No worries, the U.S. won't intrude on the "refugees" privacy when they come here. We'll only look at your phone after you commit mass murder.

    More at http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/

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    1. Mike,
      Political correctness run amok to the point that more Americans will die at the hands of jihadists right here on our home soil!

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  11. Dave,
    1. I was citing breaking news -- from Reuters, not a counter jihad site. I made no assertions as to possible motive.

    2. Considering what recently happened in Paris -- a jihad massacre -- it is not unreasonable to think that another attack had occurred, even at a nursery school.

    3. That guy who shot up Planned Parenthood looked whacko and lived in isolation.

    4. Duck typically rushes in to say that something couldn't possibly be a jihad attack. In fact, on 9/11, he refused to admit for 2-3 days that the 9/11 attacks could be jihad attacks.

    5. As a matter of civil discourse right here on my own property, you should have phrased your statement as a question -- without snidely saying, "Nice AOW." Use some tact.

    This discussion is over now. My site, so I get the last word.

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    1. 4. Duck typically rushes in to say that something couldn't possibly be a jihad attack. In fact, on 9/11, he refused to admit for 2-3 days that the 9/11 attacks could be jihad attacks.

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      Wrong.

      A rumor that was kept alive by your buddy Beak who is not known for his grounding in reality.

      I do see these attacks as acts of mentally ill individuals driven by inflammatory rhetoric, true.
      I also wonder why some shootings in America receive different levels of attention.
      Are the dead in Oregon any less dead than those in San Bernardino?

      Just for the record.

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    2. Duck,
      I've never seen you deny that before.

      Were you or were you not banned from LGF around 9/11?

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    3. Duck,
      Dead is dead. But the motive of the killer(s) DOES matter.

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    4. What's LGF, I get banned from lots of sites.

      For the record I'm sure that I would have waited until the initial shock was over.
      However, my main sin seems to be, as I said, that I see many attacks be Muslims as well as others rooted in mental illness.

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    5. Duck,
      LGF = Little Green Footballs.

      I agree that some attacks are by mentally-ill Muslims. But other attacks? I don't have the same view that you do: ideology motivates. IMO, holding certain ideological views does not equate with mentally ill.

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    6. I have never to my knowledge posted at Little Green Footballs.

      I also do not disagree that some attacks are organized by structured chain of command such as the case of 9/11 and are in fact calculated terrorists.

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    1. Depends on who shows up, the Fifty Shades of Grey hipster or the director of Nowhere Boy which was a pretty disciplined story of John Lennon's adolescence.

      I'm betting on Shades of Grey.

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  13. A preschool teacher who claimed to have been attacked by a masked assailant invoking Islamic State (Isis) has admitted he made up the story, French prosecutors have said.

    The attack reported on Monday by the teacher set off a manhunt in the northern Paris suburb of Aubervilliers, but he later admitted under questioning from prosecutors that the story had been a lie.


    French teacher stabbed by man claiming to be from Islamic State
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    Both the Paris prosecutor’s office and the local prosecutor said the teacher was still being questioned on Monday afternoon over why he made up the story of the attack.

    The 45-year old teacher at Jean Perrin nursery school had earlier claimed that a man in overalls and a balaclava had arrived while he was preparing his class on Monday, grabbed a box cutter and scissors that were in the room, and attacked him.

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  14. Why is the media not reporting the total destruction of European countries by moslem invaders, incorrectly referred to as "migrants", "asylum seekers", and "immigrants" ?

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  15. From The Hidden Reasons Why Americans Dislike Islam:

    ...I wonder if the media is missing a powerful, largely-uncovered influence on America’s hearts and minds — the experience and testimony of the more than two million Americans who’ve served overseas since 9/11 and have experienced Islamic cultures up-close.

    Yes, they were in the middle of a war — but speaking from my own experience — the war was conducted from within a culture that was shockingly broken. I expected the jihadists to be evil, but even I couldn’t fathom the depths of their depravity. And it was all occurring against the backdrop of a brutally violent and intolerant culture. Women were beaten almost as an afterthought, there was a near-total lack of empathy for even friends and neighbors, lying was endemic, and sexual abuse was rampant. Even more disturbingly, it seemed that every problem was exacerbated the more religious and pious a person (or village) became.

    I spent enough time outside the wire and interacting with tribal leaders to get a sense of the reality around me, but the younger guys on the line spent weeks at a time living in the heart of the local community. I remember one young soldier, after describing the things he’d seen since the start of the deployment, gestured towards the village around us and said — in perfect Army English — “Sir, this s**t is f**ked up.”...

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  16. AOW: Viewed post at Western Hero per your recommendation. Posted comment there and at Mike's America.

    Did you see the second post at Mike's America in which DHS training bans any viewpoint that sees Islam as the problem? Is it any wonder that attacks on Americans have skyrocketed during the Obama years?

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  17. Make no mistake about it ALLAH and SATAN are SYNONYMOUS.

    ISLAM is a SATANIC CULT.

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