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Saturday, November 29, 2014

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  1. Ferguson in the classroom:

    Point five is: “Carry the theme for the rest of the year.”

    Lesson plans for the year are available all over the web.

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  2. Tammy's Bucket List:

    *Crossing out "shopping at Ferguson mall" on Black Friday....

    On a more somber note, we are cultivating a generation of children who are being indoctrinated instead of educated. So our tax dollars are being used for indoctrination instead of creating a vibrant and educated future generation of Americans.

    These will be the future Americans who will loot working Americans of all savings and retirement. They will imagine that a perceived injustice gives them the right to strip us of everything but the clothes on our backs. Isn't that what is happening in Ferguson.

    The POTUS is a crime lord. This is Mafia-style politics.

    Top of the bucket list? Voting in the 2016 election.

    Tammy

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    1. Spoken like a cranky old white person safe in her house in the suburbs watching Fox News, lol! "The POTUS is a crime lord!' Priceless.

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    2. Now, Newsmax has it's own cable news network! YEAH!!! LET STUPID RING!

      JMJ

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    3. "POTUS is a crime lord." Could not say it better! As the new IRS revelations are reinforcing. He was trained in 'the Chicago Way' and walks that line perfectly.

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    4. This One,
      I deem you an idiot, a word I don't often direct at commenters here.

      Tammy is anything but a cranky old white person safe in her house in the the suburbs watching Fox News.

      Best to keep silence that to should yourself a fool.

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    5. JMJ,
      Now, Newsmax has it's own cable news network! YEAH!!! LET STUPID RING!

      Do you object to freedom of expression?

      If the Newsmax channel doesn't work out, it will get dropped.

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    6. LOL! No, I don't object to expression! Are you kidding? This is great! I guarantee there's already some weird gay bar in Manhattan that plays NewsMax all day. I mean, the Onion is great, but NewsMax is just, well, what can ya' say?.

      All my stupidity aside, this guy Ruddy who runs NewsMax seems like a pretty smart guy. He seems to have a clear grasp of his audience. If he's going to compete with Fox, he's going to have to develop his identity. Ailes runs Fox like a well oiled machine. It is truly The Roger Ailes News Network. Right now, NewsMax is essentially an AM news-talk line-up. So, we'll see where it goes...

      JMJ

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    7. JMJ,
      I haven't watched the NewsMax channel, so I really can't comment as to what the channel broadcasts.

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  3. In Salt Lake City a few days ago, a "non-white" police officer shot and killed an unarmed white male, and was cleared of charges. I haven't decided if I want to burn or just loot. Because #whitelivesmatter.....

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    1. And in Cleveland a 12 year old was shot to death. In NYC a teenager was shot to death walking down the stairs of a high rise. Unarmed, no warning, they just shot him down.
      If it were happening to whites at anything like this frequency they would be demanding restraint and prosecution even for the "thin blue line".

      But instead we get the prevarication and snark from conservatives who just know that the poor simply won't go out and get jobs in an economic system that has kicked at least 20% of the population to the curb.

      It's just so much easier to condemn their rage and never think of the cause. Or come up with some snark without acknowledging that cops and the military are simply tools.

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    2. Riddle me this, CI.
      Cops frequently use the excuse that blacks represent a threat but facts show that the bulk of police shootings are so called sovereign citizens, folks who have taken their Libertarianism and 2nd amendment (the one that really counts) rights a bit too seriously.

      How do we debunk the false narrative on the right?

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    3. sorry the excellent point of your comment was so entirely lost. You're so right.

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    4. In no great surprise, Ducky has proffered his disagreement with the verdict reached by the grand jury, and further....expressed his allegiance for those who's sense of entitlement compels them to believe that they are entitled to other peoples property....while we endure his snark at Conservatives and Libertarians...as he offers unsupported hypotheses.

      If an unarmed white suspect being shot by a "non-white" police officer was a rarity.....the it's all the more reason it should have received media coverage.

      Instead, we are treated to non-stop media salivation over a poorly chosen martyr while his relations cajole the crowd to "burn this bitch down".

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    5. CI,
      If an unarmed white suspect being shot by a "non-white" police officer was a rarity.....the it's all the more reason it should have received media coverage.

      Good point.

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    6. No it isn't.

      The issue here is death at the hands of the police.
      Death that is virtually endemic to poor black communities.

      There has been a shooting of an unarmed young black man every week for a couple months. That is the issue in Ferguson.

      The fact that the cops are out of control represents a danger to all but it impacts minority neighborhoods much more severely.

      T

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    7. I don't believe that the police force is out there hunting humans to slay.

      There has been a shooting of an unarmed young black man every week for a couple months.

      Many times, whether or not an individual is unarmed cannot be discerned until after the individual is down.

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    8. Ducky, your disconnect appears to be that, unlike the grand jury arriving at a decision not to indict based on the evidence and testimony....your sole conclusion from the event is "black man killed".

      The depth of your analysis is telling,

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    9. Ducky also conveniently skirts around the fact that black men are shot and killed every day by other black men, so by his own definition, if the cops are out of control, then the communities where these horrible crimes take place are dangerously out of control.

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    10. Silverfiddle never misses a chance to straw man. The subject is police killings.

      So here's my analysis, CI. Police killings of unarmed white men are extremely rare. Those killed are generally mad men like the loon who tried to shoot up most of Austin the other day.
      But it didn't get much coverage.

      In Ferguson a man was shot and left in the road on display like a side of beef. Just as unarmed young black men are routinely killed elsewhere. His basic humanity couldn't even be acknowledged.

      And we will have punk efforts to refute the issues like siverfiddle's or we'll have the right stick their fingers in their ears and shout Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton but whatever the tactic they will not admit that race is very much an issue in America.

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    11. Will we be seeing much news coverage of this story?

      St. Louis police: Man beaten to death with hammers (dated November 30, 2014).

      The two juveniles in custody are ages 15 and 16. A motive for the attack has not been released.

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    12. "Will we be seeing much news coverage of this story?"

      We will not, because the death wasn't the result of the discharge of a firearm. Media coverage of the many more deaths caused by implements other than firearms would damage the gun control cause far more than the antics and tautology of the gun control cabal themselves. Damage control is scant coverage of deaths not resulting from gunshot.

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    13. Well, Ducky, I will partially agree with you.

      Young black men are perceived differently than young white men. I think Jesse Jackson made a famous comment a few years back about how he would skirt around a crowd of young black men and instead walk past the white men.

      Also, if you consider that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, and that a disproportionate amount of black people live in crime-ridden areas, then it would make sense that police have more contact with black males, and that tragically, of all police shootings, young black males would be disproportionately represented.

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    1. Unfortunately, FT, this is the way a mass consumption culture works.
      You know it and I know it that the bad drives out the good in the marketplace.

      However, it continues to mystify me that you apparently champion the system that has brought us here.

      Hint: The invisible hand is not God's.

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    2. By the way, FT, if you have the opportunity next week, give AOW's show a call and join the discussion. I assure you we have learned the art of cordial conversation.

      The topic is film noir and my thesis is that the original movement represented a sense of the breakdown of the American myth.
      The question of how that myth was rebuilt after the 60's did a bit of a number on it has quite a bit to do with the victory of consumer culture.

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    3. "You know it and I know it that the bad drives out the good in the marketplace."

      Which is why the government has not place playing in the marketplace. Government money is stupid money, and it distorts whatever market it gets dumped into.

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    4. Yes, FreeThinke, you have to think like a child to be religious. ;)

      JMJ

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    5. Ducky, the 'American myth?" You mean everything that's been so good about it? No wonder you'll be discussing film noire....one of my favorite genres, by the way. I own probably 50 of them.
      If you think anything here was 'rebuilt' after the Sixties, you're not paying attention.

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    6. JMJ: Always better to educate oneself to phrases like that before commenting on them!!!!!!!! :-) (hint; it's not literally 'children'... look it up)

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    7. Yes, the American myth was in trouble.

      I'm not sure how many noir I have. I should update my catalog but I'm sure a large number are French. Another good question would be why the style didn't take hold anywhere else.

      It's a difficult stye to define. One quality I'd give noir is that nobody is redeemed. Everyone is adrift in a deterministic haze. Odd that theme should take such a strong hold in America.
      British and Itlian social realism never developed the kind of pesimism found in American noir.
      The malaise is all ours.

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    8. but good almost always wins out over bad in American film noire, Ducky. There are stories of wives killing husbands, gangsters stealing...etc etc., as you know; they almost all get caught...if not all.
      I agree, these are certainly not June Allyson musicals (thank goodness) but I'd say the same result occur! Except not always in key!
      I think your view of America is coloring your bleak input here on, literally, 'black'.
      Urban settings, sometimes gangland, bleak stories...film noire. I am not sure I'd add "nobody is redeemed" to the American films in this genre. Although, I'll admit, they don't usually go happily into the sunset clicking their heels with joy.
      Even the scores usually end on more major chords of the same melody finally, signifying a happier ending than beginning. Or at least a resolved ending...a sort of redemption for good over bad. Gangster in jail, murderer caught....

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    9. I used to do all my Christmas shopping on Black Friday -- although I don't recall that moniker back then.

      No way do I venturie out on Black Friday! I can't handle the maniacal drivers and the aggressive shoppers. As far as I'm concerned, no "great deal" is worth all the hassle.

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    10. Yesterday, I read on the web that there was a frenzy in the UK -- a group of women battling over panties on sale.

      Huh? What madness!

      You can't make this stuff up!

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  6. There is so much anger, name calling, profanity and just plain uncivil behavior in the “Left, progressives, and liberal blogs" that it’s getting to be a real problem.
    It seems like the" Progressive Left and liberal blogs" are now off limits to anyone with an opposing view. Is this an offshoot of the Obama administration‘s way of leading the country? I would say yes, it is.
    The Left who was always not only angry, but emphatic at everything for the past 8 years, angry at President George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, and the administration, the war in Iraq, the 'right-wing media,' and more. Are now angry at everyone that has anything contrary to say about the Obama administration. It was just fine to Hate Dick Cheney, John Ashcroft, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, and even the Bush daughters. But don’t you dare to say an bad word about Michelle or Barack Omama or they will chastise you, call you all kinds of names and even insult your way/style of writing or typing.

    Upon web-surfing yesterday I followed a link that led me to a Ultra-Liberal blog where the topic was the Gallup poll of Obama’s favorability. I thought nothing about posting my opinion and my position on this blog .......EXCEPT not realizing who I was dealing with, the author of the blog attacked me like a Pitbull dog... Calling me all kinds of names and insults and even insulting my use of words. (My grammar) she went to my blog and blasted me on her blog about almost everything I had written on mine. I foolishly always thought that I was free to write anything that I wanted on my own blog. I never thought that what I wrote had to meet the approval of another blogger. But then again this is Obama time, and things are not the same as we knew it to be.
    Well within a few minutes, (not more that 3-5) my blog was invaded with sicko’s from her blog using all kinds of stupid and Anonymous screen names all attacking me to the extent that i was forced to close the comments

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    2. your blog? And you don't link it here?
      Stay away from those blogs; grammar is more important there than America to most of them as it's a great smoke screen against whatever truth you might have written.

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    3. The anonymous comment above was provided by Barack Mugabee, a sock puppet of some sort.

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    4. I've been banned from quite a few leftwing blogs, including Kooks and Criers.

      One blogger, can't remember his name, his was a penny-ante leftwing rant site anyway, doesn't matter...

      Anyway, he banned me for stating the historical fact that Benito Mussolini was a man of the LEFT, not the right.

      He got madder and madder in the thread, I could almost see his fleck-spittle in his comments, and finally he deleted every one of my comments, and went back to past threads and deleted me there as well.

      I really enjoyed that. Like the good little progressive commie dictator wannabe he was, the blog owner said he would reinstate my commenting privileges if I publicly retracted my statement.

      I've never been back, and I honestly can't remember which blog it was anyway.

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    5. It must have been "sleeping with the Devil "

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    6. "the historical fact that Benito Mussolini was a man of the LEFT, not the right."
      it's not worth flecking any spittle over, but that is not a fact. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics:

      "There is also general consensus that the Right includes: conservatives, reactionaries, neoconservatives, traditionalists, capitalists, neoliberals, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, monarchists, theocrats, nationalists and fascists"

      a paragraph which cites the concise Columbia encyclopedia:

      "Fascism, philosophy of government that glorifies nationalism at the expense of the individual. ... The term was first used by the party started by MUSSOLINI, ... and has also been applied to other right-wing movements such as NATIONAL SOCIALISM, in Germany, and the FRANCO regime, in Spain."

      I can understand how you could legitimately argue that these extreme dictatorships are dominated by left-wing elements rather than right-wing ones, but you are wrong to dignify that opinion with capital letters and the label "historical fact". Tradition favours labelling them as far-right parties, but I recognize that the left-right axis drifts and rotates over time and from place to place according to the local political context.

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  7. We got a couple of inches of snow over night.

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  8. Regarding blog comments and grammar - I am not critical of poorly formulated thoughts nor typos on blog comments. Many of us post on different blogs from day to day and our thoughts can be off the cuff and written in rapid-fire manner.

    In reading comments, I am looking for emotional pulse in a thread as opposed to carefully chosen words.

    Woodsterman: Sunny and cool in Dallas. It is a nice day.

    Totally decimating the blog of another? Poor form.

    Tammy

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    1. I don't mind a short critical comment directed grammar. But decimating the blog of another is unacceptable. What was described in a comment above sounds as if "troops were rallied" to "go in hot." Sheesh. Don't people have better things to do with their time?

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    2. I was hoping it's always clear when I frequently scoff at leftwingers who spend time insulting rightwing comments for their spelling or grammar, that it's because they're directing the attention from the post by calling into question grammar. Who'd care otherwise?

      I am a huge grammar buff, so I'd be the first to constantly correct; but ON BLOG COMMENTS? Why bother? The bother is to smokescreen; I think that's pretty clear...to take attention from THE POINT. Easier than having to actually argue the point with facts and figures.

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    3. After years at this I've decided most flaming replies directed at speeling or grammer are made by libtards, frustrated they are not equipped to discuss the content but unwilling to be silent so they flail away with the kindergarten strategy of throwing rocks instead.

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    4. Tie a can on it.

      The poster is the infamous Radical Redneck who came pretty close to criminal threat against a blogger.

      Now go howl at the moon, as is your bent.

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    5. Oh by the way kid. I posted on your site a simple statement that saying the head of the weather channel denies global warning when he has credentials in communications and none in meteorology or climatology is hardly anything convincing.

      But like most of your fringe right brethren you run a censored site.
      Like most on the fringe right, when you are backed up by even simple statements of fact you censor and turtle. Your world view is so brittle it can't even deal with doubt, let alone factual debate.

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    6. Duck,
      This is not your blog. Therefore, it is not your prerogative to tell Kid to Tie a can on it.

      If he deleted a comment of your at his site, he is certainly within in his rights to do so. His blog, his property, his rules.

      Do not start a blog feud here.

      Thank you.

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    7. Excuse me, AOW but it was kid who started with his litany about libtards and grammar correction without taking into account that the poster in question is Radical Redneck who has been a bigger pain and much more insulting than I have ever been.

      I try to observe your rules but I must point out that when someone like kid throws down the gauntlet you only chastise the person who picks it up.

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    8. Duck,
      Kid's gauntlet wasn't directed at you personally. It was a general comment.

      I admit that I occasionally side with those whose political views align with mine -- to the point of chastising or deleting. However, I don't close this blog to those with whose opinions I don't agree. I'm striving for some balance here and often get hammered by all sides for doing so.

      I know that you are capable of comments more cogent than Tie a can on it.

      Furthermore, I've had it up to my eyeteeth with various blog feuds that circulate. I don't have time for that! And I despise blog gossip; gossip is a sign of a small mind and a mean spirit.

      I have no idea as to who Radical Redneck is or as to to how many sock puppets he/she has.

      Anyway, the incident is over as far as I'm concerned.

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    9. That's rich, Ducky accusing someone of turtling.

      Ducky, you are infamous for starting a fire in a thread and then running away when confronted with verifiable facts or with a question you cannot answer without violating your dogma.

      Maybe we should add a last name to the descriptive and inventive moniker given you by FreeThinke: Canardo Houdini, in honor of your escape artistry.

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    10. Also Ducky,

      In AOW's defense (as if she needs my help), you put up with a lot of crap running a blog, a thread can go down the toilet in a hurry, and none of us have the luxury of sitting and monitoring it all day, so some selective weeding is a prudent action.

      Western Hero went to Disqus because of one persistent and vulgar troll whose potty mouth wasn't even funny. It was sick, and it was like a cancer on the blog. We had dealt with others in the past, and they finally got bored and slinked off to infest other blogs, but the last troll was a persistent turd on the windshield that wouldn't come off.

      If you don't get to such comments in time, others respond, which only eggs on the troll to further act of asshattery. I also agree with her wise words on gossip and her absolute ban on blog feuds spilling over into her comment thread.

      Btw, I use troll in the true sense of the word. I do not consider you, Jersey or Jez to be trolls. Although we disagree, I respect your intellect and opinions and I sometimes even enjoy our interactions.

      I really do recommend Disqus, but it has its technical problems as well. Z cannot comment at Western Hero, and I damn near blew up my blog installing it, since the Disqus instructions did not work.

      Luckily, I'm somewhat versed in XML and related languages, so I ended up making it work (just don't ask me now how I did it.)

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    11. True enough, silverfiddle.
      The troll in question is some manifestation of Radical Redneck.
      If you think he was foul on your blog you should have caught
      his act on liberal blogs.

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    12. I detest 'rightwing' trolls even worse.

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  9. I arrive home and receive this item:

    An electronic yodelling pickle

    Really, AOW, you shouldn't have!

    *The woman is definitely deranged....

    Tammy

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    1. Tammy,
      It's for political yodeling sessions! Heaven knows that you and I have plenty of those.

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  10. Political yodel:

    The self-proclaimed expert who fiddled away at a national press conference on the autopsy of Michael Brown is right up there with the fake sign language interpreter at Nelson Mandela's funeral.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/cnn-discovers-mike-brown-autopsy-expert-is-not-a-professor-or-a-doctor/

    "Professor Parcells" made this brilliant statement:

    "To take out organs and to cut open a body, you don’t need to be a pathologist".

    We figured out that little fact with Jeffrey Dahmer.

    Anything we observe, hear, or read must move through a Kant-like accelerated mental process prior to accepting it as truth.

    *Feel free now to address me as Dr. Swofford, noted high-energy particle beam scientist, and lead researcher for CERN. wink

    *Why are we so easily duped?

    Tammy

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    1. Tammy, taking a known whack job like Gateway Pundit as gospel constitutes being duped.

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    2. Duck,
      Ahem:

      Parcells became an overnight media star in August when he assisted in an autopsy commissioned by Brown's family. He appeared time and again on major media outlets as a forensic pathology expert. He said over the years he's testified in court dozens of times in several states.

      But an investigation by CNN that included interviews with attorneys, law enforcement and physicians suggests Parcells isn't the expert he seems to be.


      The above information is from CNN.

      So, perhaps Gateway Pundit was correct.

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  11. Addendum:

    "To take out organs and cut open a body...."

    Anyone else note that the order of operations is wrong? snort

    Tammy

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  12. Boozy Hillary Clinton is at it again!!!
    By:MissMolly,

    A “boozed-up” Hillary Clinton suffered a secret collapse during a recent vacation – and now worried advisers want her to do a secret stint in rehab before her White House run! Sources close to the former First Lady and ex-Secretary of State revealed the hush-hush “Rehab Before White House” plan in advance of Hillary’s formal announcement to be a 2016 presidential candidate, touted for early next year.
    She could be America´s first fatso, alcoholic, lesbian president.

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    1. The National Enquirer recently published this story.

      Now, the National Enquirer isn't always reliable -- nor is it always wrong.

      Let's see if other sources leak this story.

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  13. I knew that Obama would be bad but even I never thought he´d do so many horrible things then brag about them. He has caused racism in America to reach an all time high, ignored the Constitution, ignored our existing laws, he has encouraged rioting,
    He has no shame and never learned diplomacy because he is a foolish man. He has lied so much that he no longer knows how to tell the truth. He set out to destroy us and so far so good.

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