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Monday, July 11, 2016

Back To Jim Crow Days?

about Jim Crow laws

I very rarely watch Hannity, but on Friday night I had a touch of insomnia. I tuned into the July 8, 2016 edition of the show.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing from a few of the protesters in Baton Rouge! Saturday morning, I watched the rerun of Hannity to make sure that I had heard what I thought I had heard.

Below is my recollection of what I twice heard:

One middle-aged black man screamed, "The problem is that there isn't a law against a white man killing a black man in this country! We want a law made that a white man can't kill a black man!"

And another, a younger man: "The problem is that we depend on the white man's dollar. We need our own schools, our own banks..."

Yet two more (a man and a woman, so I'm paraphrasing here): "We want justice. The fact of the matter is that we have the video. What more due process do we need?"

Later, I found the video of that particular edition of Hannity. If your schedule permits, watch the first 20 minutes of the video below. The return to Jim Crow portion begins at time marker 15;54, and is a must-see.


We keep hearing "We need to have a conversation about race" and "We have a lot to do."

How can there be such a conversation when emotions are running so high and people are opining as above?

What, exactly, can we do that hasn't already been tried?


Related reading: MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION in Race Relations-How do you overcome incorrect deeply held perceptions?

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    1. Jon,
      As one who lives in the South -- albeit not the Deep South -- I know what the South went through during the Civil Rights Movement.

      There is still bias, of course, but overall race relations today are 10,000% better than they were in the 1950s and 1960s. BLM is taking us backward!

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    2. "We need our own schools, our own banks..."

      WOW; Wouldn't that be special! As long as there are no fathers or jobs this situation will continue to deteriorate. Yeah, GREAT SOCIETY, indeed.

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    3. Jon...Don Lemon has a Black journalist , Blow, talking about how he had to tell his little girl that she'd never get a head because she'll need to protect herself first....no dreams to dream, just staying alive..because she's Black. I'm paraphrasing, but TRUST ME, I'm CLOSE..
      The irony was the next six guests of Lemon were Black professional, articulate, young people in their mostly early thirties who (Gasp!) HAD made it in this world so stacked against their safety.
      the irony is missed, of course;..doesn't suit the narrative.

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  2. The noisy exploiters on all sides drown out productive conversation.

    Exploitation and sensationalism is more profitable.

    No way the Minnesota or Louisiana shootings were right. You don't shoot a motorist just because you believe he may be reaching for a gun. That cop knew he made a tragic error as soon as it happened.

    In the Louisiana case, the cop had to take his hands off of the man on the ground, thereby losing control of his arm, in order to pull the weapon and commit what sure as hell looks like the execution of a man who was not pointing a weapon at anyone. We'll have to wait for the facts, but don't blame people for being skeptical that justice will be done.

    The police have a very tough job, and without them, the criminals would take over. We need them. Like all Americans, the vast majority of cops are good people who have chosen the profession for noble reasons. I wonder if the standards shouldn't be higher, and there be more situational testing to weed more candidates out. Policing requires a combination of skill-sets that most people do not possess.

    Unfortunately activists and unthinking ideologues exploit such incidents to indict all (fill in the blank)

    I have had black friends and coworkers my entire adult life, military types, civilian professionals, engineers, solid middle class people who are patriotic and pretty middle-of-the-road politically, and they can all tell you stories of prejudice, "driving while black," and flat-out racism.

    Unfortunately, the loonies on all sides of this are controlling the narrative.

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    1. SF,
      We'll have to wait for the facts, but don't blame people for being skeptical that justice will be done.

      I don't oppose the skepticism. However, BLM acts as if there should not be due process. What does BLM want? The cops to be lynched without a trial?

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    2. Silver said "Don't blame people for being skeptical". Amen to that. And why is that? Is is because they have seen cases like this go south in the past?

      Many people would be happy to wait for the due process AOW calls for if they felt without protesting they would get a fair shake from prosecutors and police. They evidence however proves otherwise.

      AOW, you asked what would help that hasn't already been done... How about a few thousand cops going rogue and publicly saying these guys who shot the guys in LA & MN were wrong instead of supporting the thin blue line?

      The official police posture of circle the wagons and defend at all costs is hurting their image and mission.

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    3. Dave,
      The official police posture of circle the wagons and defend at all costs is hurting their image and mission.

      The Blue Brotherhood, I guess.

      As for going rogue, not before all the evidence is examined. Also, there is the matter of constraints imposed by police unions and other terms of employment. The same is true of the education profession.

      Is is because they have seen cases like this go south in the past?

      That is the PERCEPTION rather or not whether it is true.

      Please read the link that I added to the body of the blog post. Important!

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    4. Dave,
      When I said, "I don't oppose the skepticism," I was referring to skepticism from all sides. I should have made that clearer. Sorry.

      There should be a presumption of innocence for the officers charged. That's the way our justice system works.

      Did cases like this go south in the past? I think so -- and that cuts both ways.

      The revolving door of the justice system and PTSD may also be factors which cause A FEW POLICE OFFICERS to cross the line.

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    5. Leave it to Hannity to broadcast the shrillest, most extreme voices he can find.

      Using him as a basis for a conversation about race is like using Pamela Geller for a conversation about islam.

      So here we are.

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    6. Duck,
      Leave it to Hannity to broadcast the shrillest, most extreme voices he can find.

      Ahem. I watched the show live. The poor guy doing the impromptu interviews did random interviews -- of those on the front line nearest him and the camera fellow.

      Yes, Hannity was goading the reporter. But the reporter phrased his questions carefully. You should have noticed that in the video.

      And I'm NOT using Hannity as a basis for a conversation about race. In fact, that allegation ticks me off! I'm using the responses of those on the front line of that demonstration in Baton Rouge on Friday night.

      Not all the voices were extreme or shrill. But some certainly wree!

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    7. Ducky,

      I heard ALL of those same "shrill voices" last Friday on NPR screaming that rampant White Superiority was the gravest problem facing the nation today.

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    8. FJ,
      I heard ALL of those same "shrill voices" last Friday on NPR screaming that rampant White Superiority was the gravest problem facing the nation today.

      Well, isn't that just special?

      Damn.

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    9. AOW: I would not presume to know what BLM wants. Like any organization, they are susceptible to exploitation by nefarious forces.

      I would really like to hear more black voices. Heather MacDonald mines that territory very well, but too much of what we are hearing comes from white people presuming to tell us what black people think.

      Add to the cacophony that black people hold various and subtle opinions on society, crime, policing and unfair treatment, and you have a complex, gossamer mosaic that the shouters tear to shreds at every turn.

      Poor people living in bad neighborhoods just want peace and safety, but too many minorities are trapped between the criminal elements that prey on them and governments that often prey on them as well.

      So, we abandon dialog, reason and nuanced thought and instead retreat to our tribe. That is the situation we are in now: Tribal, and every tribe demands you perform the Two Minutes Hate against the Enemy. You must also burn all writings produced by enemy tribes while memorizing and mindlessly reciting your tribe's credos.

      Thousands of cracks, fissures and faultlines spiderweb our nation, and vandals from all sides are busy with hammers, prybars and chisels...

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    10. Perhaps Fox would be a modicum more believable if they didn't 'consult' Mark Fuhrman as an 'authority' on police and race matters?

      https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/07/08/megyn-kelly-and-mark-fuhrman-agree-african-americans-grievances-police-are-overblown/211463

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    11. AOW...mention HANNITY and it's like red meat to liberal lions.....gives them a great chance to get past the point you're making so they don't have to pay attention to it.
      "get Hannity" then becomes the thread. It's SO typical that you can't be surprised.
      And they expect open dialogue....yes, but only if it agrees with them. Sad.

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    12. The problem with "white superiority" is that it's true, and people who want to think of themselves as fair just can't stand to admit it. If I were black, I wouldn't want to admit it either, but if I had any sense, which from the way most of them talk and the way they behave, the majority of blacks don't seem to, I would accept what's real, and try to do the best I can, and let it go at that. The few blacks who have really achieved something worthwhile are proof that it's not "the system" that's against blacks, but their own basic inability to do what's needed to be part of the more advanced society. They are given big ideas by the fake education they've gotten all their lives. Most college educated blacks get degrees in bullsh-t fields like Sociology and Black Studies. They become activists, community organizers, social workers, civil rights lawyers, and maybe fake preachers like Jackson, Sharpton and that loudmouth SOB who told his fake church to sing God damn America.

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    13. You think all Whites feel superior to Blacks? I think a lot of us Whites are SAD that Blacks haven't taken advantage of the country we know creates opportunities and there are a host of reasons for that and not all are laziness or anything else negative.
      I think your comment about schooling is excellent...not only do they get degrees in BS majors, they are taught more about social justice than what they really MUST KNOW.
      Jackson, Sharpton; they've done more damage than ANY GOOD and Jackson is a bigger charlatan than people know.
      He makes his money getting union money for keeping Black workers quiet in factories and I don't mind saying that a huge Wash. DC lawyer swears by this.."Where do you THINK he gets his money, Z?!"
      If ONLY our Black brothers and sisters would WAKE UP and realize we WANT the best..we WANT them taking advantage of this great country's opportunities.
      MANY do JUST FINE but we don't hear about them........that's not right. It's not a sexy story for the media...that's got to stop.
      AND we need conversation that flows both ways..stop the blame...and let THEM take some blame, like Chief Brown said in Dallas...Cops CANNOT do everything...he actually said "70% of Black babies don't have fathers...cops can't fix that, too!"

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    14. You think all Whites feel superior to Blacks? I think a lot of us Whites are SAD that Blacks haven't taken advantage of the country we know creates opportunities and there are a host of reasons for that and not all are laziness or anything else negative.
      I think your comment about schooling is excellent...not only do they get degrees in BS majors, they are taught more about social justice than what they really MUST KNOW.
      Jackson, Sharpton; they've done more damage than ANY GOOD and Jackson is a bigger charlatan than people know.
      He makes his money getting union money for keeping Black workers quiet in factories and I don't mind saying that a huge Wash. DC lawyer swears by this.."Where do you THINK he gets his money, Z?!"
      If ONLY our Black brothers and sisters would WAKE UP and realize we WANT the best..we WANT them taking advantage of this great country's opportunities.
      MANY do JUST FINE but we don't hear about them........that's not right. It's not a sexy story for the media...that's got to stop.
      AND we need conversation that flows both ways..stop the blame...and let THEM take some blame, like Chief Brown said in Dallas...Cops CANNOT do everything...he actually said "70% of Black babies don't have fathers...cops can't fix that, too!"

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    15. Why can't we have a White History Month? It's not like we became superior overnight. ;)

      Just kidding.

      I'm with Dave Miller. Police departments need more Serpicos and less dirty cops.

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    16. AOW... I'm with you on waiting for the facts and evidence to come in... But it seems like that's a one way street. When people profile others based on the actions of others, that is hardly waiting for facts. It seems as if the only people that can jump to conclusions are those in power.

      The victim in MN had no chance to present the facts... He was shot getting his wallet and was licensed to carry. What else could he have done?

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    17. Dave,
      I read last night that he wasn't licensed to carry -- or that his license to carry had been revoked.

      I was too unwell to run down the story. Maybe you can and get back to us.

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    1. I just read it, and was not particularly impressed. I happen to think most of the "deeply held perceptions" really are correct. Of e can't believe what we see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears, what could we believe? Also, that guy was wrong when he condemned that "rough ride" the police were accused of giving Fred Gray, and wring when he said those cops ought to be convicted of manslaughter. It was reported in several places a few days ago that there was no evidence to back up those allegations. The police were just doing their job. It is the blacks who mess up their lives, and condemn tlhemselves to live in hell. No one else is responsible. Just as I have to step into my pants one leg at a time to get dressed, so do all people have to live their lives. Expecting other people to live your life for you is an idea that really really sucks.

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    2. Trevor,
      I just read it, and was not particularly impressed. I happen to think most of the "deeply held perceptions" really are correct.

      I disagree.

      So many perceptions are based on what the Enemedia choose to disseminate and what academia choose to present.

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    3. In his essay, Epaminondas makes the very valid point that those who have believed "the agenda" are incapable of looking at evidence which contradicts their opinion, which was shaped, as I mentioned above, by the Enemedia and academia.

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    1. BTW, there is a little town out here in the DC suburbs that stops every driver who has the slightest vehicle violation! We all drive around that town or creep through it at 20 mph. I'm not kidding!

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    2. Money maker, of course.

      Major source of the town's revenue.

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    3. The little town to which I refer loves to target coin dealers who come in for the bourses a few times a year. The town knows there are deep pockets among those coin dealers. Definitely a form of profiling.

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    4. @ AOW: "Was it racial profiling?"

      It sure looks like it. Seat belt violations? He was a regular Jesse James... /snark off

      I still wonder if Somalis are a high-crime cohort drawing extra attention from the cops, and other people with dark skin are getting caught in the dragnet...

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    1. Yes it is...

      And it's long past time for the Civil Rights movement leaders to finally GROW UP, and SJWs to stop pretending that they, like Atticus Finch, are anything other than who they really are.

      “Go Set a Watchman” demands that its readers abandon the immature sentimentality ingrained by middle school lessons about the nobility of the white savior and the mesmerizing performance of Gregory Peck in the film adaptation of “To Kill a Mockingbird.”

      from the New York Times review of Harper Lee's "Go Set a Watchman"...

      “Watchman” reads as if it were fueled by the alienation a native daughter — who, like Ms. Lee, moved away from small-town Alabama to New York City — might feel upon returning home. It seems to want to document the worst in Maycomb in terms of racial and class prejudice, the people’s enmity and hypocrisy and small-mindedness. At times, it also alarmingly suggests that the civil rights movement roiled things up, making people who “used to trust each other” now “watch each other like hawks.”

      ...

      One of the emotional through-lines in both “Mockingbird” and “Watchman” is a plea for empathy — as Atticus puts it in “Mockingbird” to Scout: “You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view.” The difference is that “Mockingbird” suggested that we should have compassion for outsiders like Boo and Tom Robinson, while “Watchman” asks us to have understanding for a bigot named Atticus.

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    2. FJ...when I heard about WATCHMAN's publication, I was so sad...Mockingbird is one of my favorite books AND movies....always was; every aspect of it. Atticus is BIGOTED? For having stood up and put his life and career on the line to protest the unfair arrest of a Black man brought by White LIES?
      Yes, when I heard about Watchman, I remember thinking "They'll bring down EVERY GOOD THING in our country if they can, even a wonderful book of truth and compassion."
      Thanks, liberal guilt-propagators....keep it up, we'll have NOTHING GOOD LEFT, but you'll be happy that good has been vanquished. Congratulations.

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    3. IMO, Z, "Watchman" is "redeemed" by Mockingbird...and visa versa... in fact, it's the "other half" of the "love thy neighbor" argument. We shouldn't just "love our neighbors" because they are "good", or only their "good qualities", we should love them "despite their flaws" and negative qualities. Watchman proves that Atticus was flawed. It was only through the "eyes of a child" that he seemed so "purely good". And in the end, Scout learns to love Atticus DESPITE his flaws. It's the "belief in purity" that is the problem, that causes all the Black Lives Matter type unrest. Atticus is NOT the conscience of the nation, and the Congressional Black Caucus doesn't even come close! THEY are "part of the problem" that prevents racial reconciliation. Blacks are flawed, Whites are flawed. Let's stop pretending that either we or they aren't and that liberals can collectively play the "pure hero/Parsifal" "Atticus" to "OUR" right-wing "collective bigotry". Parsifal is a FOOL. Atticus is a FOOL. The CBC and BLM are FOOLS as well. Blacks need to love Whites DESPITE slavery, DESPITE the Confederacy. And until they do, there can be no lasting and respectful racial "reconciliation." Cuz no one is going to "change" into that "pure archetype" represented by Atticus.

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    4. Go Set a Watchman got mostly negative reviews -- well, except for one review in Time Magazine. After I read the latter review, I decided to read the book for myself.

      Atticus Finch as presented in Watchman was not so much bigoted as the product of his time and as person who didn't want to give up the heritage he knew and loved. As FJ points out Scout learns to love Atticus DESPITE his flaws -- and, IMO, that's what life and love are all about. Everyone is flawed! Period.

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    5. FJ..by the way...Mockingbird does NOT portray Atticus as anything nearly a bigot...you should know that! That he supposedly aged INTO one is quite another thing. That's not in THIS book.(Though Watchman was written first, not sure you knew that)
      He was NOT a bigot in Mockingbird. And his children did not know him as one as they grew up.

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    6. The very thought that Atticus is a bigot makes me laugh.
      I totally disagree and I am sorry that great story of a lawyer who puts his life and career on the line to help Tom survive the lyings of a white bigot's daughter is viewed as such.

      Which FAULTS did Scout not love about her father? :-)

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    7. No, Mockingbird does NOT portray Atticus as a bigot. It is only in Watchmen that we learn of his close association with the Klan and feelings vis Black inferiority.

      Atticus didn't "age" into anything. Scout "aged" into adulthood and "reality."

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    8. As Uncle Jack (Atticus' brother) tell's Scout, "Every man’s island, Jean Louise, every man’s watchman, is his conscience. There is no such thing as a collective conscious… now you, Miss, born with your own conscience, somewhere along the line fastened it like a barnacle onto your father’s. As you grew up, when you were grown, totally unknown to yourself, you confused your father with God. You never saw him as a man with a man’s heart, and a man’s failings—I’ll grant you it may have been hard to see, he makes so few mistakes, but he makes ‘em like all of us. You were an emotional cripple, leaning on him, getting the answers from him, assuming that your answers would always be his answers."

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    9. Z,
      In "Watchman," Atticus belonged to the Citizens Council.

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    10. Do you understand that what I'm insisting is that Mockingbird does NOT portray Atticus as a bigot..? It doesn't.
      Why even suggest what you said above, FJ..that "“Go Set a Watchman” demands that its readers abandon the immature sentimentality ingrained by middle school lessons about the nobility of the white savior and the mesmerizing performance of Gregory Peck in the film adaptation of “To Kill a Mockingbird.”"

      For many years Atticus was the example we should ALL FOLLOW but now that some second book appears and colors him as a bigot, are you suggesting Mockingbird needs to be ignored? All that goodness, ignored?

      it's a NOVEL, it's not true life! Atticus didn't exist in real life....(although the trial IS based loosely on something that happened near Lee's hometown)...

      ALL I'm saying is that LET MOCKINGBIRD EXIST and LET'S ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BE LIKE FINCH...
      That a book (not life!) comes out saying he's actually a bigot in older life also is ridiculous because nobody like Atticus WOULD suddenly be like that...not based on Mockingbird and all he did to get Tom off, to get his kids to respect Black neighbors, to be kind to Annie, their housekeeper...

      Oh, well....I don't care what Atticus 'did' in Watchman....it's a BOOK. Let's celebrate the man he is in Mockingbird.
      That's all :-) (I guess you can't tell that book is a favorite and the film is probably my number one of the hundreds in my 'top 5 films'!

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    11. Z,
      That a book (not life!) comes out saying he's actually a bigot in older life also is ridiculous because nobody like Atticus WOULD suddenly be like that.

      There may be an explanation.

      I've read both novels.

      To Kill a Mockingbird is a much-better-written work. I've wondered -- even before Watchman was released whether or not Truman Capote helped Harper Lee with the rewrite.

      I do recommend reading Go Set a Watchman. Some of it is a slog and obviously the work of an inexperienced writer.

      But when Atticus in his old age explains his views on race, I think there is accuracy to what he says -- at least as far as how some members of "the Old South" were concerned.

      From Wiki:

      After finding a pamphlet titled "The Black Plague" among her father's papers, Jean Louise follows him to a Citizens' Council meeting where Atticus introduces a man who delivers a racist speech. Jean Louise watches in secret from the balcony and is horrified. She is unable to forgive him for betraying her and flees from the hall.

      After having a dream about her old family black maid Calpurnia, whom she sees as a mother figure, Jean Louise has breakfast with her father. They soon learn that Calpurnia's grandson killed a drunk pedestrian the previous night while speeding in his car. Atticus agrees to take the case in order to stop the NAACP from getting involved. Jean Louise visits Calpurnia and is treated politely but coldly, causing her to leave, devastated.

      At lunch with her Uncle Jack, Jean Louise questions why Atticus was at the meeting. Jack says that Atticus hasn't suddenly become racist but is trying to slow federal government intervention into state politics. Her uncle lectures her on the complexity of history, race, and politics in the South, trying to get Jean Louise to come to a conclusion, which she struggles to grasp.

      [...]

      During a discussion with his daughter, Atticus argues that the blacks of the South are not ready for full civil rights, and the Supreme Court's decision was unconstitutional and irresponsible. Although Jean Louise agrees that the South is not ready to be fully integrated, she says the court was pushed into a corner by the NAACP and had to act. She is confused and devastated by her father's positions as they are contrary to everything he has ever taught her....


      Supposedly, Go Set a Watchman was Harper Lee's first draft and was rejected by the publisher. She then rewrote the novel to To Kill a Mockingbird.

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    12. Z,
      And believe me, many that we now regard as racists still held the views to get his kids to respect Black neighbors, to be kind to Annie, their housekeeper...

      I personally know the Old South and the New South -- both have warts. Very complex!

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    13. BTW, I have many students who have read To Kill a Mockingbird and a few who have read Go Set a Watchman. I recommend the latter only for students are mature. Mockingbird can be read and understood by middle schoolers; Watchman is for high schoolers.

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    14. FJ,
      When I was a little kid, I heard of the Citizens' Councils. My parents attended one of their meetings -- then bailed. Even so, our house received so many death threats that my parents had to get an unlisted phone number.

      I was such a little kid that I don't recall more than that.

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    15. @Z Do you understand that what I'm insisting is that Mockingbird does NOT portray Atticus as a bigot..? It doesn't. I agreed with you twice about that. My point is simply that it's told from an 6-9 year old's perspective and therefor "oversimplifies" everything.

      @ AoW - Every organization has a "citizens council". The NAACP is a "Black Citizens Council". The term is simply "code" for "the jouissance" of the organization. It's the "Beyond the Law" of what its' members believe. The unspeakable aim that it would kill or die for, ala "Black Lives Matter".

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    16. @ Z, In other words, a man doesn't have to be "perfect" or "idealistic" to do the "right thing". Individual "Justice" is universal. "Social Justice", as represented by the White Citizen's Council or the NAACP, represents a willingness to commit "injustices" to achieve a result that is often at odds with individual justice, or giving EVERY individual his "due."

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    17. Regardless of our personal prejudices or social bigotries, IF we ALL support individual "justice" we will ALL, like Atticus Finch, "do the right thing".

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    18. FJ,
      @ Z, In other words, a man doesn't have to be "perfect" or "idealistic" to do the "right thing". Individual "Justice" is universal. "Social Justice", as represented by the White Citizen's Council or the NAACP, represents a willingness to commit "injustices" to achieve a result that is often at odds with individual justice, or giving EVERY individual his "due."

      Well said!

      My parents wouldn't sit at table with Negroes, but insisted on paying every one of our colored workers Social Security and their medical bills.

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    19. None of my parents' liberal friends paid their maids' Social Security.

      FACT.

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    20. ps - We also need to stop conflating "social justice" with individual "justice". They are NOT the same thing. You must have the latter before you can dream of any hope of achieving the former. Because an individual "trial" achieves a much fairer result than any "class action".

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    21. @AoW - Social norms aren't always "just". They can favor the "tribe" and not give the individual his due. Your parents understood "justice". Not all people do, they cling to the "social" (vice universal) norm.

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    22. FJ,
      Your parents understood "justice".

      The older I get, the more I understand just how wise my parents were.

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    23. ...and before anybody says that we should ALL just support "Justice" is ALL cases, this precludes the ability to exercise another virtue... the virtue of "Wisdom". Wisdom consists in knowing when to follow the "social custom" and act un-Justly towards "some" others. Like during a war.

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    24. ...or DURING fifty years of "affirmative action".

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    25. ...the "WISDOM" of which has long since begun to wain.

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  6. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
    We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
    We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
    We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
    We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
    We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
    We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
    We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control.”
    We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
    We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
    And we will not buy into any of Hillary Clinton's lies or BS, or attempts to cover up any of her lawlessness.

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  7. It's crazy isn't it. For decades now we have been attempting to move away from segregation and now the very people who were supposed to benefit from that policy are now demanding the reverse.

    I wonder if all those sports and entertainment stars that are so idolized in the black community are ready to give up their careers and establish only black entertainment and sports where no whites are allowed to buy tickets?

    Ever since Obama was elected racial insanity has gotten out of control. Democrats have used race as a wedge issue to scare and motivate their voters.

    Meanwhile, blacks continue to lag behind whites in every measure of Obama's economic "recovery." But somehow, instead of blame that on Obama's policies that reward his rich campaign contributors they will blame it on white America.

    Blacks were better off under George W. Bush!

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    1. Blacks were better off under George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Things got much worse for them after they were "liberated," and found it was practically impossible to make living on their own. They moved up north, and created the hell we think of today as "the ghetto." An interesting question it would be good to find an honest answer to is "Would they have been better off if they'd never left Africa?" I know it sounds nasty, but I am certain that we would be better off today, if they'd never been brought here. As a bumper sticker popular down south says, "If I'd a known how it was gonna turn out, I'd a picked my own cotton."

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  8. No, Freethinke, it doesn't sound nasty so much as it sounds bigoted.

    Statements like "Blacks were better off under George W. Bush!" indicate an ignorance of the recession that wiped out such a huge volume of black wealth.
    Always simple answers on the right.

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  9. What the hell is a "conversation on race" if we haven't been having one for the last 50 yrs or more? Particularly the last eight.
    I think it's code for something else.

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  10. If the black folks go violent, they lose. It is as simple as that.

    Otherwise, this is a feeding frenzy of the losers. Fueled by 7+ years of obama. he should be in jail for inciting riots. Anyway very dangerous. For them.

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  11. I would be remiss in not adding:
    - The democrats brought the slaves here
    - The democrats fought the civil war to keep the slaves
    - The democrats put forth every single piece of anti-black legislation
    - The republican party was initiated to free the slaves.
    - The democrats keep the blacks in modern day slavery by denying them education and safe living environments.
    They actually pay democrat breeder women to pop them out like pieces of toast into zero opportunity, zero education, drug and crime infested environments. Well You are paying for this if you're a tax payer.
    There is little on the Earth more evil than a democrat.

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  12. The screaming on Megyn Kelly's show tonight -- especially during the first 15 minutes-- is surreal.

    Obama is so wrong. American today is VERY divided!

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    1. They want a "conversation on race".
      That means they get to yell at us.

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    2. The woman in the red dress was bonehead.
      The revolution guy was a bonehead.
      The young pastor was a bonehead.
      Like the one black guy said.
      They are ideologues hijacking a movement.

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    3. Ed,
      You watched that fiasco, too?

      "Abolish the police force." Gimme a break!

      Very discouraging to watch.

      How in the world can there be any solutions?

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    4. Ed,
      They want a "conversation on race".
      That means they get to yell at us.


      Pretty much!

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    5. It was painful to watch, AOW...Kelly controlled them pretty well, she's as sharp as they get, but so few can bring themselves to hear the truth and their community is suffering for their gullible acceptance of the leftwing narrative....so sad.

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    6. It was painful to watch, AOW...Kelly controlled them pretty well, she's as sharp as they get, but so few can bring themselves to hear the truth and their community is suffering for their gullible acceptance of the leftwing narrative....so sad.

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  13. When perceptions persist in the face of facts the holder has an emotional attachment to the idea. Very hard to break. You have to go in at a level that touches the emotions.

    How does it change? When you get hit in the face with reality. I heard the interview with the black mother in Dallas who police leapt on to cover her and protect her and her son. She came away with a different perspective, and articulated it beautifully.

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    1. Baysider,
      When perceptions persist in the face of facts the holder has an emotional attachment to the idea. Very hard to break. You have to go in at a level that touches the emotions.

      Well said.

      I saw the interview with the black mother! Is every news network showing the interview?

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  14. I'm thinking, hoping, and PRAYING that as soon as the RACE BAITER IN CHIEF abandons the White House that things just might start to go back to the way they were BEFORE he gave us his "CHANGE"!!!!

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    1. AA,
      Hello! It's been a while!

      Hope that you've been doing well.

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  15. The past few days, I took a look at some of my former students' Facebook pages. Here's one entry by a student of decades ago:

    I had to remind my fiancé to be careful when driving home from dinner tonight. The restaurant is 1 mile away, but it doesn't matter. What can we do to protect our men? I'm speechless. I'm numb. As long as there is fear of us, of our men, then this will never go away. As long as you clench your purse when my fiancé walks by, or call the cops when my son wears a hoodie then this will never end. As long as the presence of one or two alarm you... As long as the media depicts blacks living in ghettos, stealing, and being "thugs" then this will never end. Politicians, talk about this instead.

    This young lady comes from a very wealthy black family: her mother (deceased) was a nurse, her father a Secret Service agent (retired since 1992), one brother an orthopedic surgeon, the other brother with his own clothing business. She and her two siblings are university graduates. Her fiancé is obviously wealthy, too.

    All drive high end Mercedes vehicles and live in gated communities, I think.

    Yet....

    Yet, she believes that black men are constantly targeted by the police and murdered with great frequency.

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    1. Get rid of the damn hoodie.
      Really.

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    2. Criminals wear hoodies to made it easier to break glass and enter unhurt. If you're wearing one in December I'm probably not going to notice. If it's July you might as well flash a big neon sign on your head to alert me to your intentions. I learned this from the police AFTER I nearly caught just such a criminal. He didn't 'fit' in. Why? It was a warm day, and he was wearing shorts and a hooded sweatshirt. So Ed + 1.

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    3. Thank you, ED! That is one of THE most sensible remarks on the page. So-called "Black Culture" –– or rather the monstrous thing it has becomesince the SICK-sties –– is DEPRAVED, ROTTEN to the CORE –– NO DAMNED GOOD. PERIOD!

      Unless and until we can somehow get these worthless people to ASSIMILATE –– that means abandon "Ebonics," and speak proper English, dress conservatively and quit "shucking and jiving" on street corners, quit polluting the air around them with their LOUD, COARSE, UGLY, MORALLY VILE, ANTI-SOCIAL non-music, and at the very least acquire a VENEER of behaving like decent, gainfully-employed, family-oriented, mainstream adults, they will –– and they SHOULD –– be subjected to suspicion, resentment, sidelong glances, fear and loathing from NORMAL people in OUR society.

      If they can't or won't CONFORM –– at least outwardly –– they should be TRANSPORTED to the kind of isolated WORK CAMPS cum "RESERVATIONS," cum old-fashioned PENAL COLONIES I outlined in my, apparently controversial, post two days ago a post, incidentally that drew so much contempt and PERSONAL ABUSE from self-styled "Progressives" and their usual retinue of catcallers and those always eager to say BOO to anything, that I had to del
      te SIXTY-PERCENT of the comments.

      Any SENSIBLE Negro –– or member of any OTHER minority –– should RENOUNCE and DISCARD all vestiges of the debased cultures which keep them separate from and antagonistic to the culture of the MAJORITY.

      In other words "When in ROME, do as the ROMANS do."

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    4. FT,
      The vast majority of Americans will not entertain the possibility of old-fashioned PENAL COLONIES for American citizens.

      "First They Came" and all that.

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    5. Baysider,
      If you're wearing one in December I'm probably not going to notice. If it's July you might as well flash a big neon sign on your head to alert me to your intentions.

      Indeed!

      Mr. AOW, now that he's confined to a mobility device, often wears a hoodie when he ventures out on his own during the winter; the paratransit bus can be as cold as a freezer. He can't manage a hat with only one hand/arm that works.

      And I myself wore a hoodie -- a very bright one for safety -- when I used to power walk during the winter.

      But in weather over 50 degrees? NEVER!

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  16. From today's WaPo:

    Authorities in Kansas said a police officer has been fired from the force after he posted a threatening comment on a black woman’s Facebook page, which may have been in reference to the Black Lives Matter movement.

    The Facebook page belonged to LaNaydra Williams of Dallas, who told Fox affiliate WDAF that the former officer commented on a photo she posted in 2014, showing her now 5-year-old daughter showing off a pair of new boots.

    The comment read: “We’ll see how much her life matters soon . . . better be careful leaving your info open where she can be found :) hold her close tonight, it’ll be the last time.”

    [...]

    The controversial Facebook post was made only hours after the Dallas shooting, which left five officers dead and nine others injured....


    The officer was fired -- as he should have been.

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  17. Let's Get Rid of our White Guilt and stop this pandering.
    Do you thing that any of those Black Thugs who steal, kill, and burn, are writing these blogs today?
    Do you think that the loved ones of the Dead police officers are feeling as you are today?
    I don't .

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  18. Reality check

    Media Ignore the Tsunami of Black Violence against Cops.

    One brief excerpt toward the end:

    In Ireland, a young man disturbed a family gathering by announcing he had been following the shootings in Dallas and said he was happy black people were finally fighting back because cops had been picking on black people in America for a long time for no reason whatsoever.

    He learned that from CNN. From a story featuring the President. Of the United States of America.


    I'm not saying that the police don't commit injustices against blacks. BUT there is more to the story.

    Please read the above link -- without having a cognitive-bias hissy fit.

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  19. About BLM...

    2016
    Caught on Video: Black Lives Matter Leader Openly Calls for Followers to Murder Cops


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    Tuesday, July 12, 2016
    Caught on Video: Black Lives Matter Leader Openly Calls for Followers to Murder Cops


    Black Lives Matter leader: Whatever you do, you pull your pistol out and f*cking bust them… Trust me when you see me move, I’m moving in violence. We need action. I don’t give a f*ck if you knock them over, whether you run up on them, whatever you do, you better f*cking take action.

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  20. Speaks for itself:

    White House Ignored Request to Illuminate White House in Blue.

    But the White House has been illuminated in LGBT colors and Ramadan green.

    **sigh**

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  21. Sometimes if you let people talk, they will show you just how STUPID they are! And Obama fit into that situation perfectly at today's Memorial in Dallas

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  22. President Obama: 'I believe our sorrow can make us a better country'
    Then he went on to say something about these killings can bring us more Justice or some such nonsense. And I was told that he wrote this himself. He said that he consulted scripture last night so I was waiting for quotes from the Quran.

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    1. Ed,
      He wrote the speech himself? Perhaps that's why he droned on for too long.

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    2. He likes to hear himself talk, and he loves the image of people from down the top of his nose.

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  23. He likes the sound of his own voice and looking down his nose at people.

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    1. Ed,
      Yes.

      Obama made some excellent statements yesterday. But then he veered off into scolding America and promoting his political agenda. A memorial service is not the place for that.

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    2. Ed,
      A friend of mine emailed me this:

      Obama did not take it upon himself to merely bring comfort to the men in blue. That would have been appropriate. He seems to have no real sense of propriety.

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    3. Ed,
      I want to point this out to you:

      Obama, the Viciously Dogmatic Ideologue, Further Divides Nation at Funeral

      Suppose a young man died while driving drunk.

      What would we say of a priest who took this opportunity, delivering the eulogy, to offer a thirty minute stemwinder on the evils of drink?

      Now, the priest would have a point -- after all, the kid had died drunk driving.

      And yet, we would also say the priest took advantage of a captive audience to deliver a sermon on one of his bugaboos.

      Why is the Archpriest Obama permitted to indulge his sanctimonious venom at a man's funeral with no one in the media noting his religious zealotry?...

      Also, this:

      o what happened when President Obama made an actual mistake in his speech at the memorial for the murdered Dallas police officers?

      First let’s look at what he said:

      OBAMA: I see how easily we slip back into our old notions, because they’re comfortable, we’re used to them. I’ve seen how inadequate words can be in bringing about lasting change. I’ve seen how inadequate my own words have been. And so, I’m reminded of a passage in John’s Gospel, “let us love, not with words or speech, but with actions and in truth.”

      This was from the good and presidential portion of the speech before it rambled into false statements and hyper-politicization.

      But what is the precise passage from the Gospel of John to which he refers? You won’t find it, because it’s not from the Gospel of John but from an entirely different book of the Bible: The First Epistle of John. It has the same author as the Gospel of John but it is, again, an entirely different book....

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    4. It's odd (sorta) that Obama, who uses every opportunity to advance the cause of Islam, quotes from the Bible (something that is definitely not allowed in schools, or on government property). He may have been trying to make people think he was a good Christian. I was going to give him a pass - after all, it is from a book by John. It looks, though, like he wanted to show how well he knows the Bible, by coming up with a particular book, but ... he could have said "as the Bible says, ..."

      I also remember him telling us about those people who bitterly cling to their guns and religion.

      I'm sure he meant Muslims, but maybe not.

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