tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post999042567940964396..comments2023-10-03T07:01:41.144-05:00Comments on Always On Watch: Semper Vigilans: Detroit Goes Belly UpAlways On Watchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-55671660291514064522013-07-23T14:29:10.035-05:002013-07-23T14:29:10.035-05:0025 facts about Detroit. Grim!<a href="http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2013/07/25-frightening-facts-about-detroit.html" rel="nofollow">25 facts about Detroit</a>. Grim!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-63006622483761784442013-07-22T22:06:53.825-05:002013-07-22T22:06:53.825-05:00Also about the situation in Detroit. Just a few ye...Also about the situation in Detroit. Just a few years back, GM moved from an outlying part of Detroit (still in Detroit, though) to the very center of downtown. The move was opposed to some African-American City Council members who were racist and were opposed to white GM employees being in that area.<br /><br />Coleman Young had a great contempt for white people, and also considered people who were Stalinists to be good friends due to their ideology.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-9791846480173412232013-07-22T22:02:58.592-05:002013-07-22T22:02:58.592-05:00AOW: Jimmy Carter also considered the Ayatollah Kh...AOW: Jimmy Carter also considered the Ayatollah Khomeini to be a great human rights leader.<br /><br /><br />Here is a telling quote from Khomeini:<br /><br />"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives.<br />The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister."dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-68073346586197587462013-07-22T16:39:06.782-05:002013-07-22T16:39:06.782-05:00Dmarks,
Wikipedia on Coleman Young:
Upon learnin...Dmarks,<br /><i>Wikipedia</i> on Coleman Young: <br /><br /><i>Upon learning of Young's death, former President Jimmy Carter called Young "one of the greatest mayors our country has known."</i><br /><br />Figures!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-3108679666025023422013-07-22T16:37:06.029-05:002013-07-22T16:37:06.029-05:00Dmarks,
Coleman Young encouraged whites to leave. ...Dmarks,<br /><i>Coleman Young encouraged whites to leave. And when they tried to come back, racists on the City Council actively discouraged it.</i><br /><br />I was unaware of that! Thanks for the information.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-7750862745808104612013-07-22T16:36:15.372-05:002013-07-22T16:36:15.372-05:00Dmarks,
The outsourcing was forced by the unions.....Dmarks,<br /><i>The outsourcing was forced by the unions.... again, a Democratic problem, due to the close alliance.</i><br /><br />Absolutely.<br /><br />My father, automotive master mechanic, saw it coming back in the 1970s -- probably even earlier.<br /><br />Dad was forced to join the union where he worked and often bemoaned that union demands for higher wages were driving down the quality and quantity of work because the company could not pay those high wages.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-68054104435355038572013-07-22T15:55:23.308-05:002013-07-22T15:55:23.308-05:00AOW said: "As you mentioned, the matter is co...AOW said: "As you mentioned, the matter is complex -- including the outsourcing and devolution of the American auto industry."<br /><br />The outsourcing was forced by the unions.... again, a Democratic problem, due to the close alliance.<br /><br />The unions DEMANDED that lousy workers be paid $70 an hour to do horrible work and build the worst-quality automobiles sold in North America. This was a super strong incentive for the car companies to go elsewhere. And if/when they didn't, companies that paid a fair wage for such work (from $20 to $40 an hour) ate their lunch with much lower labor costs and a much higher product. <br /><br />Want to get rid of outsourcing? Cut the overhigh business taxes in the US to a fraction of what they are. Get rid of much of the regulations that serve no good purpose but to kick businesses out of the country. Make the entire country "right to work" so companies don't have to leave the country to pay a fair wage. <br /><br />Watch the unemployment rate go to less than 5% within a year of these positive reforms being enacted.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-57450663664171147102013-07-22T15:09:50.992-05:002013-07-22T15:09:50.992-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-87533171253981628502013-07-22T15:06:09.476-05:002013-07-22T15:06:09.476-05:00Ducky said: "The causes of the white flight a...Ducky said: "The causes of the white flight are indeed varied"<br /><br />I watched it happen. Coleman Young encouraged whites to leave. And when they tried to come back, racists on the City Council actively discouraged it.<br /><br />Also, your blaming of 'white flight' is actually focused on one race, and might be racist on your part. For a long while now, Blacks have been fleeing Detroit a lot more than whites have.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-74383072869821190092013-07-21T13:24:19.365-05:002013-07-21T13:24:19.365-05:00My biggest concern with this is that the U.S. taxp...My biggest concern with this is that the U.S. taxpayer not be forced to bail out these Democrats and thus allow them to continue their reckless ways.Harrisonhttp://capitolcommentary.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-83918445858475713122013-07-21T06:56:09.731-05:002013-07-21T06:56:09.731-05:00Beamish,
I don't see Z's standards as ones...Beamish,<br />I don't see Z's standards as ones of <i>imbecility</i>. She is a more sensitive person than many of us. Just the way it is.<br /><br />I have never been mugged, but I have more than one family member who has been assaulted and bloodied. Frankly, I don't give a damn about the attackers when a family member is in mortal danger.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-9920306565115625682013-07-21T00:28:47.903-05:002013-07-21T00:28:47.903-05:00AOW,
My new avatar is because my heart doesn'...AOW,<br /><br />My new avatar is because my heart doesn't bleed for Trayvon Martin's mommy enough for Z's exacting standards of imbecility.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-59149132985411085662013-07-20T20:20:18.056-05:002013-07-20T20:20:18.056-05:00Well, here's another one; Gary Indiana. This ...Well, here's another one; Gary Indiana. This is what happens when unions become so powerful that any sembalence of a work ethic disappears while wages inflate beyond any real value added. I know this because I lived there and worked there. Democrats have been running this city since, at least, 1943. Do I really need to mention which party runs the unions? Please check-out this link.<br /><br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173761/Tragic-portrait-city-decline-The-desolate-ruins-Gary-Indiana-reveal-decaying-heart-Americas-proud-industrial-centre.htmlJonBerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718776762194333398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-28054703607252996732013-07-20T13:16:52.526-05:002013-07-20T13:16:52.526-05:00Beamish,
Hey! I see that you have a new avatar. ...Beamish,<br />Hey! I see that you have a new avatar. Good one!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-55499554997604111952013-07-20T13:16:00.598-05:002013-07-20T13:16:00.598-05:00Beamish,
Hehehe.
Duck must be a "secret"...Beamish,<br />Hehehe.<br /><br />Duck must be a "secret" racist, huh?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-54642795762429902192013-07-20T12:54:03.972-05:002013-07-20T12:54:03.972-05:00LOL. I see Ducky's unmitigated racism now blam...LOL. I see Ducky's unmitigated racism now blames Detroit's problems on the absence of white people.<br /><br />(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-27481048603713194332013-07-20T07:41:03.416-05:002013-07-20T07:41:03.416-05:00Debbie,
This didn't happen over night, as we a...Debbie,<br /><i>This didn't happen over night, as we all know. Politician after politician putting off the inevitable, knowing that payday comes someday.</i><br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />And lots of individual households in America have been doing the same.<br /><br />The profligacy will come to no good end -- sooner or later.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-69277074129429174842013-07-20T07:39:50.313-05:002013-07-20T07:39:50.313-05:00Debonair Dude,
Thank you for pointing that out! O...Debonair Dude,<br />Thank you for pointing that out! Obama supporters during the 2012 election cycle were saying that all the time -- as I well recall hearing until I wanted to spit.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-65923627854946175742013-07-20T06:29:03.771-05:002013-07-20T06:29:03.771-05:00Didn't Obama save Detroit a few years ago?Didn't Obama save Detroit a few years ago?The Debonair Dudes Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09193177091847804125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-49139184129916771492013-07-20T03:38:32.781-05:002013-07-20T03:38:32.781-05:00Duck,
As you know, there are multiple ghost towns ...Duck,<br />As you know, there are multiple ghost towns in the "Wild West." Certainly, those situations were different and occurred for some reasons different from the plight of Detroit. The difference is that the people in those towns in the "Wild West" moved elsewhere.<br /><br />Anyway, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Detroit" rel="nofollow"><i>Wikipedia</i> (not an irrefutable source, but a place to do a bit of reading) has an entry about the decline of Detroit</a>. One brief excerpt:<br /><br /><i>...It is thought by some, such as economist Walter E. Williams, that the decline was sparked by race-based city policies which caused more affluent whites to leave the city (sometimes known as "White flight"), reducing the tax base, and leading to fewer employment opportunities and customers in the city....</i><br /><br />Please do read the entire entry at the above link.<br /><br />I would also not discount the effects of environmentalism on the American auto industry. For example, I well remember a lot of the fallout when catalytic converters were added to vehicles; we suddenly had vehicles that got very low gas mileage and little horsepower at a higher sticker price. The Japanese figured out how to work out those problems, but the American auto industry was late to the party -- to the point that most Americans gave up on buying American made vehicles.<br /><br />I do not discount the effects of deindustrialization, which resulted from multiple causes. However, deindustrialization also occurred after WW2 without the horrendous results we are seeing now. What was different?<br /><br />Overall, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_cities_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow">cities known as "the Foundry of the Nation"</a> have been shrinking for decades. <br /><br />Is there really a solution? <br /><br />What is the remedy that you would propose?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-47900951414846268162013-07-19T22:15:14.405-05:002013-07-19T22:15:14.405-05:00Are you certain we have a template for governing i...Are you certain we have a template for governing in situations when industrial cities lose theirmindustry, AOW?<br /><br />Some like Pittsburgh or Cleveland have been able to develop as medical centers and mitigate the decline but from Camden to Detroit there there are many cities where the problem is dire ... Buffalo, Erie, Yongstown. <br /><br />I don't believe we have seen a solution from the right. Just bromides.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-25883324773781259692013-07-19T21:50:40.165-05:002013-07-19T21:50:40.165-05:00It was only a matter of time. I'm surprised th...It was only a matter of time. I'm surprised they didn't do this sooner.Trekkie4Everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03226981394122557804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-35788191023840441312013-07-19T20:00:55.436-05:002013-07-19T20:00:55.436-05:00Ingham County judge rules Detroit bankruptcy be wi...<a href="http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130719/METRO01/307190099/Ingham-County-judge-rules-Detroit-bankruptcy-withdrawn?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE" rel="nofollow">Ingham County judge rules Detroit bankruptcy be withdrawn</a><br /><br />There is quite a bit of information in the above article including the following interesting statement:<br /><br /><i>... “It’s also not honoring the (United States) president, who took (Detroit’s auto companies) out of bankruptcy.”...</i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-9066774423505424622013-07-19T19:35:58.040-05:002013-07-19T19:35:58.040-05:00Duck,
The Dems were in leadership positions in Det...Duck,<br />The Dems were in leadership positions in Detroit. With those positions comes the responsibility to lead and to govern responsibly. They did not.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-21048212114353254532013-07-19T16:37:47.152-05:002013-07-19T16:37:47.152-05:00FT,
I see that you have ruffled Canardo's feat...FT,<br />I see that you have ruffled Canardo's feathers. Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.com