tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post4919115196041620374..comments2023-10-03T07:01:41.144-05:00Comments on Always On Watch: Semper Vigilans: Recommended ReadingAlways On Watchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-40128499430338631932013-11-10T10:02:45.914-06:002013-11-10T10:02:45.914-06:00The people could have voted Obama out in 2012, but...<br />The people could have voted Obama out in 2012, but they didn’t, instead they re-elected him. So you folks got what you wanted, what you deserved. But your President lied and screw you and me as well , and now we all have to live with the consequences. . When the Republicans shut down the government over Obamacare, the democrats, liberals, etc. sided with Your President then . But now that he lies to all of the people and you are getting dropped from your insurance company as well as I am you suddenly woke up.<br />Obama was then, and always will be YOUR choice.<br />I'm just trying to keep it on track. I suggest posters keep their eye on the ball here when they go to the polls, okay?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-39698181020929955882013-11-10T04:04:36.297-06:002013-11-10T04:04:36.297-06:00Wildstar,
My neighbor hails from Canada and is a s...Wildstar,<br />My neighbor hails from Canada and is a strong advocate of single payer. He seems to have forgotten that his mother came here for rehab following a major surgery she had; the reason for her coming here was the limitations on single payer.<br /><br />Socialized medicine does quite well during an acute emergency situation: heart attack, stroke, etc. But for certain situations such as "elective" surgery and "nuisance" ailments -- not well at all (as you mentioned, long waits).Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-10752053282269630942013-11-09T15:56:19.720-06:002013-11-09T15:56:19.720-06:00IMO, single player has a few more disadvantages, n...IMO, single player has a few more disadvantages, not so much in theory as in actual practice. In Canda, famous for the system, the waiting time for any proceeder is ridiculously long, fatally long in many cases. I remember actually debating health care with a 7-different-health-issues older guy and an Canadian (the older guy was considering moving to Canda). I quipped that Candian health care is horrendous, to which the Candian replied that it was amazing- it just took WAY too long. The problem does quickly become too many patients, too many diseases, too many research field and nowhere near enough doctors, hospitals or researchers to deal with them all. <br /><br />So you either get the lines of Canada, or the Death Panels of the US. Neither are a good option. I don't know what Europe does or I'd add it in. Benefits, yes, but many problems as well...<br /><br />And, in my mind, it is telling that people are willing to travel TO the US to get treatment- usually people from single payer system countries! How much of the reverse do we see?Wildstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824904561080806597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-32208045463399243412013-11-09T07:35:00.103-06:002013-11-09T07:35:00.103-06:00HEAR! HEAR! and AMEN!
DAMN IT, indeed!
As always...<b>HEAR! HEAR! and AMEN!<br /><br />DAMN IT, indeed!</b><br /><br />As always Shakespeare said it best:<br /><br /><br /><i><b>"What fools these mortals be!"</b></i>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-45633291159670420792013-11-08T23:39:51.402-06:002013-11-08T23:39:51.402-06:00Ducky,
Now in all fairness when you keep referrin...Ducky,<br /><br />Now in all fairness when you keep referring to the "Single Payer" program, would you please tell us how you think it would work? In other words give us your comprehensive plan, instead of just an incantation of Communist/Socialist crap that you have internalized. Please give us a complete outline of a program that will provide an on-going and complete plan for Health-Care that will be actuarially sound. Here is your chance, Ducky, - go for it!JonBerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718776762194333398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-70067802239610672922013-11-08T18:42:37.058-06:002013-11-08T18:42:37.058-06:00The government wants to tell us what kind of car t...The government wants to tell us what kind of car to drive, what food to eat, etc. They have already started down that path but we still have enough sane people to prevent that in some areas of the country. <br /><br />Debbie<br />Right Truth<br />Right Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18274108313586611205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-57251939949753739622013-11-08T17:18:29.909-06:002013-11-08T17:18:29.909-06:00Imposter Shaw,
Gloat all you want. It boosts your...Imposter Shaw,<br />Gloat all you want. It boosts your ego.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-33971094456514073572013-11-08T16:53:22.613-06:002013-11-08T16:53:22.613-06:00
Hey all you Cons who posts here all the time.
Tha...<br />Hey all you Cons who posts here all the time.<br />Thanks for your tax dollars! I will enjoy them in my cushy retirement, since I get a Government workers retirement. I’ll be living the high life on YOUR tax dollars.! <br /><br /> <br />Have a good weekend, guysBlankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13952529374464731851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-24934406807572893372013-11-08T16:02:52.003-06:002013-11-08T16:02:52.003-06:00Sam,
Duck seems to enjoy launching ad hominem atta...Sam,<br />Duck seems to enjoy launching <i>ad hominem</i> attacks.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-47023849929752542352013-11-08T15:59:37.060-06:002013-11-08T15:59:37.060-06:00I keep wondering why it is necessary to attack som...I keep wondering why it is necessary to attack someone personally, rather than discussing their ideas. I keep wondering how many of Ducky’s past contraventions render him incredible.Sam Huntingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14780557316548397352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-16925957944609347752013-11-08T13:55:55.695-06:002013-11-08T13:55:55.695-06:00The benefit of single-payer health care is that yo...The benefit of single-payer health care is that you are allowed to sign up for the treatment of some disease, and then wait your turn. I think they call this Utopianism. Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388694472897425202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-69446014597044196492013-11-08T13:22:45.854-06:002013-11-08T13:22:45.854-06:00Silverfiddle,
The blogosphere is inflicted of late...Silverfiddle,<br />The blogosphere is inflicted of late with imposters. This infliction goes well beyond sock puppets, which can actually be a bit of fun.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-53013809604754447422013-11-08T13:19:58.709-06:002013-11-08T13:19:58.709-06:00Duck,
I must disagree with some of what you said a...Duck,<br />I must disagree with some of what you said about competition.<br /><br />Different policies, particularly with different companies in play, have different levels of benefits and, perhaps more important, different networks. Not to mention different limitations on the maximum-out-of-pocket amounts and "usual and allowable charges"!<br /><br />I have personally switched insurance carriers so as to deal with some of the above. Single payer would not allow that option of switching carriers.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-76869468500095532422013-11-08T13:15:59.534-06:002013-11-08T13:15:59.534-06:00Average American,
Why does everyone automatically ...Average American,<br /><i>Why does everyone automatically equate health CARE with health INSURANCE??? </i><br /><br />Point taken.<br /><br />I must say, however, that health insurance usually has the benefit of limiting the bills to pay.<br /><br />That said, it is a fact that many, many medical bankruptcies occur even when people have health insurance. Very nearly happened to this household! Please see <a href="http://alwaysonwatch2.blogspot.com/2009/01/our-health-care-system-and-nanny-state.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>. Both the health insurance company and the nursing home tried to force us onto Medicaid; being forced onto Medicaid requires first being defined as a pauper, and assets in a marriage cannot be separated -- never mind that I could prove that my assets were inherited. Over and over again, the legal advice that I received was "Get a divorce immediately!"<br /><br />I also know of one family that lost everything after their daughter acquired massive brain damage as a result of a terrible car accident. The daughter got medical care, the family home was auctioned off to pay the balance on the medical bills.<br /><br />ObamaCare has done nothing to address the issue of medical bankruptcy. No limit on lifetime benefits does not necessarily prevent medical bankruptcy because of the term "usual and allowable."<br /><br />It's all quite complicated.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-24903685653843058142013-11-08T13:02:29.761-06:002013-11-08T13:02:29.761-06:00Oops... Just noticed I'm answering a counterf...Oops... Just noticed I'm answering a counterfeit Shaw Kenaw... My answer still stands, though.Silverfiddlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-62164739308010063892013-11-08T12:48:59.528-06:002013-11-08T12:48:59.528-06:00"Various single payer system critics claim th..."Various single payer system critics claim that this system will be centered-around the government and quite frankly various individuals don’t want to give the government this much power. This system will eradicate competition in this field, thus making it impossible for the individuals to seek health care services somewhere different."<br />------<br />Total freaking nonsense.<br /><br />What competition? The major insurers have an <i><b>Antitrust exemption</b></i>. You know what that means. Competition, come on AOW, you're an intelligent individual.<br /><br />Also the fact that some people have a natural bias towards wanting the government out of any program does nothing to address the issue at hand. It just states the bias.<br /><br />Now again, because this one really gets me. <i><b>What Competition?</b></i><br />Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-40957015238090478102013-11-08T12:03:12.867-06:002013-11-08T12:03:12.867-06:00"Let me know when you're ready for single..."Let me know when you're ready for single payer, sucker."<br /><br />Let me know when and how the un-funded liability of >$80,000,000,000,000, amassed by the" single payer" program known as Medicare, will be paid down. Stock and Mutual insurers must set "reserves" for such liabilities by investing in our economy, while the profits that you speak of, are returned to stock holders or mutual members. All the government system does is accumulate debt-sucker!JonBerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718776762194333398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-60753337761665625352013-11-08T11:59:18.446-06:002013-11-08T11:59:18.446-06:00Cocaine addiction is not limited to Libertarians -...Cocaine addiction is not limited to Libertarians -- Stephen King, for example. <br /><br />Just sayin'.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-85895683518426039822013-11-08T11:56:12.805-06:002013-11-08T11:56:12.805-06:00The Advantages And Disadvantages Of Single Payer H...<a href="http://www.medcohlth.com/the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-single-payer-health-care/" rel="nofollow">The Advantages And Disadvantages Of Single Payer Health Care</a> -- short and balanced.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-8725377505026625052013-11-08T11:52:38.509-06:002013-11-08T11:52:38.509-06:00Apparently he has kicked the habit.Apparently he has kicked the habit.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-41025927455788251302013-11-08T11:51:53.996-06:002013-11-08T11:51:53.996-06:00Duck,
Single payer can have some benefits for cons...Duck,<br />Single payer <b>can</b> have some benefits for consumers. However, note the following:<br /><br />1. Single payer typically doesn't cover certain support services (home health aide and sub-acute post-stroke therapies).<br /><br />2. With single payer, medical research becomes government directed, and certain ailments are typically neglected. In the present climate, I would expect single payer to fund a lot of research involving transgender matters. Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-6283363512384415832013-11-08T11:50:52.648-06:002013-11-08T11:50:52.648-06:00I'm curious. is Kudlow over that 20,000 a mont...I'm curious. is Kudlow over that 20,000 a month cocaine habit?<br /><br />That's some serious Libertarian.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-85196744141263547882013-11-08T11:32:21.058-06:002013-11-08T11:32:21.058-06:00"ObamaCare is nothing more than another "..."ObamaCare is nothing more than another "progressive" program to redistribute wealth"."<br /><br />-------<br />Yeah, it takes your money and distributes it to for profit insurers with an antitrust exception.<br /><br />Let me know when you're ready for single payer, sucker.<br /><br />Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-49971009329989291472013-11-08T10:33:15.001-06:002013-11-08T10:33:15.001-06:00Obamacare is 100% pure crap and liberals, progress...Obamacare is 100% pure crap and liberals, progressives and socialists are running away from it, using any desperate line of bull they can concoct to blame it on others.<br /><br />They are now trying to blame this Crap Sandwich on the government shutdown, They were lying.<br />Once the “shutdown” of 17% of the government came to an end…they were exposed.<br />Obamacare was exposed for what is is...A Crap Sandwich .<br />Obama’s lies regarding “if you like your plan…If you like your doctor…You can KEEP them…PERIOD” were exposed.<br /><br />This obscene LIE has been exposed.<br />MILLIONS of Americans are being kicked off their existing coverage was exposed.<br />And the liberal/socialist scumbags in congress who voted for Obamacare and defended Obamacare for the last 3 years are also to blame.Geauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647271598404540560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-91639615221150760052013-11-08T10:06:25.763-06:002013-11-08T10:06:25.763-06:00Why?
Because they CAN, dammit!
Now sit down an...Why? <br /><br /><b>Because they CAN, dammit!</b><br /><br />Now sit down and shut up like a good little subject!<br /><br />I apologize for the outburst, but this does explain it. It is a raw exercise of unbridled power, and it is not limited to Democrats. We have given ourselves over to our overlords, sold ourselves into slavery for the fools gold of being taken care of.<br /><br />I don't see it getting better or changing. They have the ability to make 'money' out of thin air, so they can keep the swindle going awhile longer.Silverfiddlehttp://westernhero.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com