tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post4332210655240511620..comments2023-10-03T07:01:41.144-05:00Comments on Always On Watch: Semper Vigilans: When Autists Become MonstersAlways On Watchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-74901323536074010562012-12-24T07:27:18.405-06:002012-12-24T07:27:18.405-06:00Indigo,
Thank you so much for taking the time to p...Indigo,<br />Thank you so much for taking the time to provide the above information.<br /><br />I will be using your comments in a post on January 7. People need to understand what a mess the experts have wrought!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-90561707095560472882012-12-24T07:11:37.419-06:002012-12-24T07:11:37.419-06:00Edge,
Agreed.
Adam Lanza was a anomaly. Of course...Edge,<br />Agreed.<br /><br />Adam Lanza was a anomaly. Of course, that statement is of no consolation to the bereaved in Newtown.<br /><br />Every Christmas for their lifetimes is forever ruined!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-50976025024943987972012-12-23T23:12:32.553-06:002012-12-23T23:12:32.553-06:00From what I understand violent behavior is not unu...From what I understand violent behavior is not unusual for people with autism, but it usually takes shape of a tantrum, as is in the story above, not per-planned murder. Lanza's case is rather atypical in this respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-7806806983484084112012-12-23T21:08:37.480-06:002012-12-23T21:08:37.480-06:00As President, Ronald Reagan repealed the Mental He...As President, Ronald Reagan repealed the Mental Health Systems Act by signing the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 consolidating ADAMHA's treatment and rehabilitation programs into a single block grant enabling each State to administer its own allocated funds. The repeal of the community mental health legislation and the establishment of block grants, the Federal role in mental health services changed once again from funding to providing technical assistance in increasing the local providers capacity for mental health services to a population of growing mental health concerns because of the continued redefining of and addition to mental health disorders.<br /><br />Once the funding responsibilities of States had been taken up by the Federal government and the States having found other uses for the money formerly used for the mentally ill, States were reluctant and loathe to finding new State funding or dropping other programs to re-fund moribund mental health programs. And now we're stuck with mentally ill people without help, without the wherewithal to request help, and a society so increasingly frightened of the mentally ill they are threatening to disarm in the face of danger and at the same time take to the streets with pitchforks and torches to chase down and slay the monsters among us. What a fine mess good intentions have left us."<br /><br />AOW, I have a cousin not much younger than myself who has been mentally ill for as long as I can recall. As a child he would beat his head against walls and his family thought it was cute as did schools and doctors. Eventually after many years in and out of prison and mental hospitals, and not being able to find adequate help, he took control of his life the only way he knew how - with a screw driver in his hand, he faced two police officers in an alley who shot him 7 times. He survived, but since that time almost 30 yrs ago, he has been in prison for psychiatric care. It's where he wanted to be -- or dead. He's been diagnosed as autistic and schizophrenic and had been before such diagnoses had been possible.Indigo Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07488424336985581412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-53598333097755910452012-12-23T21:08:15.794-06:002012-12-23T21:08:15.794-06:00I wrote this in answer to a man who asked about Go...I wrote this in answer to a man who asked about Gov Reagan closing down mental hospitals in California, but it applies to any other governor who had to exit the mental health business. The roots of the current problem go all the way back to the Eugenics Movement that spawned the Holocaust and Planned Parenthood.<br /><br />"It is true Gov Reagan did gut funding for state mental hospitals, but was forced to do so by court decisions ruling that the mental health patients could not be confined without patient consent or due process. Previously, people could be detained and institutionalized for any number of reasons and often for no good reason.<br /><br />In an attempt to find a alternatives to the eugenics movement that contributed so much to the Holocaust, a federal mental health study was begun in 1955 resulting in the 1963 Mental Health Act as part of John Kennedy's New Frontier. From this came multiple court decisions emancipating the mentally ill from the vagaries of the law and the shame of families with mentally ill members. Because the decisions were Federal and states are always trying to save local money, the Federal gov't then became the funding agency of first resort while states cut back on local funding. The Federal budget was not large enough to cover all the new fiscal demands of the new found mental health gold mine limited the resources to the states. (Lesson for ObamaCare.) <br /><br />While Reagan was governor (1967-75), a Federal court ruled in Jackson v. Indiana (1972) that due process required the commitment for mental health treatment also required adequate and appropriate treatment must be provided - the mentally ill could no longer be warehoused for the safety of themselves and society, they must be treated in preparation for release to the general population and several lower courts recognized the due process right of the mentally ill. In that same year, Gov Reagan signed the Lanterman–Petris–Short Act effectively doing what the O'Connor v. Donaldson ruling would do nationwide in 1975. The LPS bill had bipartisan support and was widely lauded by the left as a civil rights masterpiece. The ACLU argued for the end of forced institutionalization of harmless insane people. Ronald Reagan argued just the opposite, but was compelled by the courts to release the harmless mentally ill without any guidance on what harmless meant after hospitalization and medication. It was, in fact, assumed that the mentally ill, when returned to sanity, lucidity, and reality, would voluntarily continue their treatment and medications never wanting to go back to crazy. Boy, were the experts ever wrong.Indigo Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07488424336985581412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-79124188474451209792012-12-23T13:16:16.003-06:002012-12-23T13:16:16.003-06:00@ Thersites,
I note the following in the conclusi...@ Thersites,<br /><br />I note the following in the conclusion: <br /><br /><i>If maternal input is lacking or abnormal, then all aspect of limbic system functioning can also become abnormal including sexuality and even speech. </i><br /><br />All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Know what I mean as related to the above excerpt. Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-64147382756339101982012-12-23T13:11:19.122-06:002012-12-23T13:11:19.122-06:00Thersites,
I've been reading the material at t...Thersites,<br />I've been reading the material at that link you left. Grim. To say the least.<br /><br />I have no doubt that <i>"socialization" effects</i> can reap the whirlwind. Not in all cases, but certainly in a few -- such as those criminals mentioned.<br /><br />But I also think that organic brain damage can result in similar effects. Your thoughts on that?<br /><br />And another thing....Is it possible that organic damage (or differences, if you prefer) sometimes -- quite rarely -- reaches a tipping point that we then call psychosis or another mental illness? Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-75302880898181380612012-12-23T13:00:03.008-06:002012-12-23T13:00:03.008-06:00Thersites,
Are all those items in the link you lef...Thersites,<br />Are all those items in the link you left separate books?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-31724549682575053532012-12-23T09:38:06.929-06:002012-12-23T09:38:06.929-06:00I had read the Charles Whitman diagnosis before......I had read the Charles Whitman diagnosis before... have you seen some of these (the "socialization" effects) that can result in mass murder and <a href="http://brainmind.com/SexKillers.html" rel="nofollow">sex killers</a>?Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-17985578847322280222012-12-21T07:08:14.640-06:002012-12-21T07:08:14.640-06:00Will,
Fanapt, sometimes prescribed for schizophren...Will,<br />Fanapt, sometimes prescribed for schizophrenia, does have <a href="http://www.drugs.com/sfx/fanapt-side-effects.html" rel="nofollow">numerous side effects</a>, among them the following:<br /><br /><i>Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.</i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-86257683602469168112012-12-21T07:04:13.251-06:002012-12-21T07:04:13.251-06:00Interesting read:
The media has yet to discuss th...<a href="http://noisyroom.net/blog/2012/12/20/media-politicians-stir-up-frenzy-but-wont-report-educational-child-find-law-that-could-have-prevented-newtown-ct-massacre/" rel="nofollow">Interesting read</a>:<br /><br /><i>The media has yet to discuss the real issue regarding Adam Lanza, the failure of the educational system and what might have prevented the massacre of 27 innocent people in Newtown, CT.</i><br /><br />More at the above link.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-14730172237813267972012-12-20T14:18:38.433-06:002012-12-20T14:18:38.433-06:00more about Charles Whitman<a href="http://brainmind.com/Case5.html" rel="nofollow">more about Charles Whitman</a>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-17192751323154157832012-12-20T14:08:12.578-06:002012-12-20T14:08:12.578-06:00To hell with understanding. Just take them out and...To hell with understanding. Just take them out and shoot them.<br /><br />Locking them up costs too damned much money. Killing them would be kinder all the way around.<br /><br />There are a lot of thing you just can't do anything about. curing insanity is one of those things.<br /><br />--------> Katharine HeartburnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-21770346508710419932012-12-20T13:46:24.696-06:002012-12-20T13:46:24.696-06:00A little more information about Charles Whitman:
...A little more information about Charles Whitman:<br /><br /><i> this lesion "conceivably could have contributed to his inability to control his emotions and actions." Forensic investigators have theorized that the tumor may have been pressed against the nearby amygdalae regions of his brain. The amygdalae are known to affect fight/flight responses. Some neurologists have since speculated that his medical condition was in some way responsible for the attacks, in addition to his personal and social frames of reference.<br /></i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-19512911805160134552012-12-20T13:44:24.608-06:002012-12-20T13:44:24.608-06:00Um, mass murderer. Um, mass murderer. Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-46012326943226494512012-12-20T13:44:02.947-06:002012-12-20T13:44:02.947-06:00Remember mass murdered Charles Whitman?
An autops...Remember <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman#Autopsy" rel="nofollow">mass murdered Charles Whitman</a>?<br /><br /><i>An autopsy conducted upon the body of Charles Whitman—approved by his father—was performed at the Cook Funeral Home on August 2. The autopsy discovered a glioblastoma (a highly aggressive and invariably fatal brain tumor) in the hypothalamus (the white matter located above the brain stem). This tumor would have proven fatal by the end of the year in which Whitman died.</i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-64338905449189075492012-12-20T13:38:00.561-06:002012-12-20T13:38:00.561-06:00Possibly of interest -- I haven't verified the...<a href="http://youtu.be/UhO0Pul_FcE" rel="nofollow">Possibly of interest</a> -- I haven't verified the veracity thereof, however.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-2560988190454090942012-12-20T13:18:02.319-06:002012-12-20T13:18:02.319-06:00FJ,
bathing the brain in seratonin and/or dopamine...FJ,<br /><i>bathing the brain in seratonin and/or dopamine is NOT a viable solution to a neurochemical disorder</i><br /><br />Correct!<br /><br />There may be a halcyon time (Remember the film <i>Awakenings</i>?), but re-uptake receptors always seem to adjust at some point.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-55654488495622062332012-12-20T13:04:29.232-06:002012-12-20T13:04:29.232-06:00Wildstar,
No parent wants to believe that a child ...Wildstar,<br />No parent wants to believe that a child is dangerous -- or brain-compromised enough not to be exposed to normal activities.<br /><br />Parents' instincts should govern responsible child rearing. But so often, parents rely on the so-called experts, who have less-than-perfect and less-than-reliable ideas as to how to handle abnormalities.<br /><br />Clearly, many Aspies <a href="http://www.yourlittleprofessor.com/benefits.html" rel="nofollow">may benefit</a> from AS -- or, at least, so it seems. I think that it is well documented that some geniuses have ties to AS.<br /><br />But, like anyone else, some Aspies may tip over into true mental illness and a very few into dangerous mental illness.<br /><br />What we are discussing is a complex matter about which little is really known at this point.<br /><br />BTW, I have no certification in special ed. That lack of certification sometimes serves as an advantage for me. Remember the old saying: "Garbage in, garbage out"!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-75969626742586796812012-12-20T12:58:43.565-06:002012-12-20T12:58:43.565-06:00Well AoW, certain vitamin deficiencies (B) have be...Well AoW, certain <a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_7574603_regenerate-myelin-sheath.html" rel="nofollow">vitamin deficiencies (B)</a> have been known to cause myelination problems... so one cannot completely discount the efficacy of certain drugs... but I'm certain that bathing the brain in seratonin and/or dopamine is NOT a viable solution to a neurochemical disorder. For every neurological process involves a chemical and countervailing chemical inhibitor (affecting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuptake" rel="nofollow">re-uptake</a>).-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-62283641490628492762012-12-20T12:29:29.349-06:002012-12-20T12:29:29.349-06:00AOW oh, I know they can't. And thus, they shou...AOW oh, I know they can't. And thus, they should not be exposed to it. For normal people though, they can and do so. But I'd agree, exception do exist. People have 'weak-points' mentally. <br /><br />I read it... can't follow it very well. Bookmarking for later re-read. <br /><br />In the end... the brain sure is mysterious, huh? Reminds me of what McCoy once said- even with the medical tech of the future, the brain is still a mystery. <br /><br />-Wildstar<br /><br />PS because I posted at the same time as you:<br /><br />I will give partial blame, definitely. (said so in my blog post.) And certainly, different people have different reactions, depending on a myriad of thing. There are some bad outcomes that are well-known, namely, don't let little kids see it, for the higher percentage. But I will not call it evil. Most things have good uses, in moderation and with proper restraint (like drugs. Hey, many are medicines in VERY small doses). Cocaine is still used- NovoCAINE anyone? Just... there is a time, and place, and some people should NEVER have it. If a person has a history of drunks, don't drink, that sort of thing. <br /><br />AND I'm rambling again!Wildstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824904561080806597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-58151105779177487702012-12-20T12:21:49.673-06:002012-12-20T12:21:49.673-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Wildstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824904561080806597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-2090315143221936802012-12-20T12:12:04.245-06:002012-12-20T12:12:04.245-06:00Wildstar,
I dead-set refuse to blame violence in V...Wildstar,<br /><i>I dead-set refuse to blame violence in VG's/movie/etc for RL murders</i><br /><br />Not full blame, but maybe partial blame?<br /><br />The kind of technology and special effects that we have today are so new. Do we really know all of their effects? I don't think so.<br /><br />Let me give you another example or two.<br /><br />For a long time, the world viewed tobacco use and cocaine use as health-promoting. Seriously. Look it up. Now we know better. But early on? Nope.<br /><br />Here is a conundrum, however: nicotine has been shown to help certain individuals with Alzheimer's and the like because nicotine helps to increase concentration. <br /><br />As for cocaine, well, it was once successfully used in dental procedures -- not to mention in Coca Cola.<br /><br />I think that something similar is happening with technology and special effects. There are good outcomes and bad outcomes. Can we predict which individuals will have bad outcomes? Not completely, but we do know that the age at which one is exposed to certain things and the brain differences of certain individuals will more likely lead to bad outcomes -- not usually as horrific as what Adam Lanza did. Thank God!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-33448914122985550922012-12-20T12:06:22.837-06:002012-12-20T12:06:22.837-06:00FJ,
Some researchers have found that those with ad...FJ,<br />Some researchers have found that those with addictions have "problems" with their amygdalas. Which came first, the drugs or the abnormal wiring? That's really the unanswerable question -- at least, with the scientific knowledge to date.<br /><br />I should also mention that some with senility and/or stroke damage to that region of the brain can be violent. I can't prove so, of course, but I suspect that such was the case with my homicidal grandmother and grandfather. They both died long before any kind of MRI's came along.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4320479736034351430.post-17180652090896441292012-12-20T12:03:02.954-06:002012-12-20T12:03:02.954-06:00Wildstar,
Please take time to read what FJ has pos...Wildstar,<br />Please take time to read what FJ has posted above. Both he and I have long been interested in brain matters.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.com